Virtual vs Physical for E2K7 Mailbox Server

2009-03-11 Thread Brian Dwyer
I have 2 x HP BL680 G5 E7450 2P 8G Servers to use as either - Clustered mailbox server using CCR or configure as ESX virtual hosts to support virtual mail box server/s Looking for a recommendation on which way to go... thanks in advance Brian -- This message has been scanned for v

Re: A very odd problem...

2009-03-11 Thread Matt Moore
Thats why I quit using NT Backup. Seen it too many times, not enough hours in the day to chase it. M - Original Message - From: "Kurt Buff" To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: Re: A very odd problem... Anyone? Bueller? After lots

Re: A very odd problem...

2009-03-11 Thread Kurt Buff
Anyone? Bueller? After lots of fiddling, still no success. Can do the backups manually, but the batchfile tanks. I've even regenerated the .bks file. Kurt On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:05, Kurt Buff wrote: > All, > > In my UK office, I've got three servers - a DC, a file server and an > E2k3 serve

Re: Exchange 2007 and VMWare

2009-03-11 Thread Alex Fontana
Interesting statement... Depending on the I/O availability from the disk solution would be a matter of concern in a virtual and physical deployment, not just in the virtual. In all tests that I've performed I/O has not been a concern for going physical over virtual. IMO the only concern for virt

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Tim Evans
And assp will run on Windows too. :-) > -Original Message- > From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:31 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Filtering Spam > > Untangle is a Linux box . > > -Original Message- > Fro

Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Daniel Hood
Clearly I am stupid and have no read up about any of this software yet :-P Can I ask peoples opinion on using Spam Assassin vs. Ninja (he-ya!) Daniel On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > Untangle is a Linux box . > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Hood [mailto:d

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Untangle is a Linux box . -Original Message- From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Filtering Spam Whoa seems like Ive got quite a few replies. I think I'll look into Untangled and Ninja, as they seem

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Don Andrews
Ok, I'll consider myself suitably chastised for using the word worthless - oh, that's right, I DID NOT use that word - unless of course worthless is a synonym for free - in which case, I'm not sure I'd consider using worthless software. Seriously, I only meant to indicate that a collection of free

Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Daniel Hood
Whoa seems like Ive got quite a few replies. I think I'll look into Untangled and Ninja, as they seem to be the general vibe of everyone. If either of those don't wont, im going to have to bite the bullet and put a linux box in and set up mail scanner and such. I may be the linux activist at the of

RE: Exchange 2007 and VMWare

2009-03-11 Thread Martin Blackstone
I clustered Exchange 2007 in ESX with two separate physical hosts. ESX1 = Exchange Node 1 ESX2 = Exchange Node 2 All storage is on a NetApp back end. -Original Message- From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:55 PM To: MS-Exch

RE: Exchange 2007 and VMWare

2009-03-11 Thread Garcia-Moran, Carlos
Btw All VMware HA gives you is single point of failure protection at the ESX host level. If the host where the exchange VM lives crashes all the guests living on that host get booted and powered on in another host in the cluster. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@th

RE: Exchange 2007 and VMWare

2009-03-11 Thread Michael B. Smith
You can either use VMware's HA or Exchange's HA - but not both. Note that that is the Microsoft support position and not VMware's. Exchange 2007 works just fine in a virtualized environment. I've got a number of deployments out there. Depending on I/O requirements and I/O availability from your d

RE: Exchange 2007 and VMWare

2009-03-11 Thread Stefan Jafs
I am, I virtualized E2k7 and moved about 225 mailboxes from our Physical E2k3 box. I have had no issues whatsoever with the VM portion, E2k7 is another kettle of fish altogether, I think it's time to go out and purchase a book. ___ Stefan Jafs -Original Messa

Exchange 2007 and VMWare

2009-03-11 Thread John Bowles
All- I've been tasked to research E2K7 and VMWare. I know VMWare say's they support this type of installation.. but what I'm looking for is people that actually have this type of setup in their environment or have set this up in someone's environment. Has anyone had success with this design

RE: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread Campbell, Rob
If an organization large enough to justify remote-site replication and redundant hardware is down to one novice Exchange admin to handle the recovery, it's time to pay for the call to PSS. -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11,

Re: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread John Bowles
There are plenty of companies out there that have one MBX server and have a DR site. When you have scenario's like that there are plenty of people who manage these boxes that are under-qualified to handle E2K7. I work for a consulting firm that performs this function for these type's of com

RE: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread Troy Meyer
A much nicer way to achieve the point I was looking for. Guess I need more coffee in the morning. Thanks Sean -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Har

Re: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread Sean Martin
I guess I would question why a novice admin would be expected to handle a disaster recovery scenario in that Exchange environment. I'm not trying to start an arguement, just stating that the recovery mechanisms built into Exchange, while less user-friendly, can be pre-architected and documented fo

RE: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread Michael B. Smith
SCR will work just fine with SBS 2008, which has Exchange 2007 in it. The company would need to purchase another Windows Server license and another Exchange Server license (but no additional CALs) to host the SCR target. The word "enterprise" is a funny word. I provide support from hosted Exchan

Re: Trying to get first Edge server going...

2009-03-11 Thread Russ Patterson
Michael - Thanks! - As always, you are an amazing source of knowledge. Ordered your book "Monitoring Exchange Server 2007 with System Center Operations Manager " We'll keep everyone posted on progress. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Michael B. Smith < mich...@theessentialexchange.com> wrote: >

RE: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread Troy Meyer
No, you are thinking of small business server, and I d�t believe SCR will work with that. Every average Exchange 2007 admin I know has a substantial amount of Powershell knowledge. Some more than others, but I have a hard time imagining an enterprise rollout of 2007 without some people ( o

Re: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread John Bowles
Yea, I can see a novice popping open PS and his documentation on his desk while the mail system is down and his boss hanging over his shoulder peppering him with questions why his mail system is down and what went wrong That's gonna go over really well. What I'm saying is the "east of us

RE: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread Michael B. Smith
Because Microsoft doesn’t know how you are going to shake this stick. Each SCR source can have multiple targets. A SCR source can be a SCC, a CCR, or a standalone server. A SCR target can be a SCC, CCR, or standalone server. A given AD account can only be tied to one of them at a time, even i

Re: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread Sean Martin
Ideally, all of the powershell scripts would be created and documented as part of your disaster recovery plan. Any novice admin should be able to read your well formatted and detailed instructions for handling a specific type of failure and execute the appropriate script...right? ;-) Or you could

RE: Trying to get first Edge server going...

2009-03-11 Thread Michael B. Smith
This is exactly what it breaks down to. These two lines. You should be able to execute them manually. Dsdbutil 'Activate Instance MSExchange' 'SSL Port 1499' Set-itemproperty "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Exchange\v8.0\EdgeTransportRole\AdamSettings\MSExc hange" -name "SslPort" -value 1499 Fro

Re: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread John Bowles
Is there any reason that MS hasn't made this more of an automated process without going into PS and ripping through the command line while you're Exchange boxes are down? I don't see the benefit in SCR when it comes up time unless you have some guy on staff making 6 digits that knows a great de

Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Sam Cayze wrote: > I think the point was that the above sounds like a extended nightmare to > many of us (At least me), compared to something like clicking Next, > Next, Ok, Finish with something like Ninja. I haven't used Ninja, but I've never seen *any* non-t

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
FWIW, I would never install Perl on my Exchange server either :) I like to keep critical boxes Vanilla. But trust me, unless you haven't any Linux experience, it's no different than low level administering of windows servers and apps. Community help around Postfix, CentOS and sa is pretty freaking

Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Don Andrews
+1 - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Wed Mar 11 10:35:22 2009 Subject: RE: Filtering Spam "install Perl on the exchange server and proxy smtp with assp, or setup a Linux ba

Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Don Andrews
No, I didn't mean to imply that. You still have IP addresses, default gateways, DNS etc. etc. - Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld - Original Message - From: Joseph L. Casale To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Wed Mar 11 10:25:29 2009 Subject:

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Sam Cayze
"install Perl on the exchange server and proxy smtp with assp, or setup a Linux based MTA and install assp on it or something like postfix/sqlgrey/spamassassin/clamav/amavisd-new" I think the point was that the above sounds like a extended nightmare to many of us (At least me), compared to somethi

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Because closed source software installs, configures and manages itself? -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Filtering Spam All this assumes of course that your time is free.

RE: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread Neil Hobson
I can't disagree there Michael - I was merely stating that for those customers who have wanted standby clusters, these are sometimes single node clusters. Yes, using /RecoverCMS can pose additional gotchas, like the CNO permissions required on the CMS computer account when used on Windows 2008

RE: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread Michael B. Smith
See, I fall directly into the "database portability" camp. Who wants to do a /RecoverCMS when you can just do a few "set-storagegroups", "set-mailboxdatabases", "mount-database", and "move-mailbox -configurationonly" --- and I can script the entire thing ahead of time! The only downtime is DNS TTL

RE: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread Neil Hobson
Yep, that's been the case with all of my SCR deployments to date. The only slight difference with some designs is that the standby cluster is sometimes just a single node cluster (initially, anyway) From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: 11 March 2009 14:54

RE: SCR Zero Dataloss

2009-03-11 Thread Michael B. Smith
SCR wasn't possible before SP1, but these types of errors could happen with CCR as well. I would suspend and re-enable. If that doesn't fix it, I'd start over. I'm sorry I don't have any better advice. From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 10,

RE: SCR Zero Dataloss

2009-03-11 Thread Michael B. Smith
I'm not certain that I know of any "best practice" in this case. It depends on your objective. SCR is a "poor man's" database copy. It doesn't require a Windows Failover Cluster or Windows Enterprise or Exchange Enterprise. But you can get a full copy of your database. Now, one of the state

RE: Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread Michael B. Smith
When I recommend someone to deploy SCR, I recommend identical hardware. The general goal of SCR is fault tolerance and site resilience. The SCR hardware can't take over if it can't handle the load. IMHO. YMMV. From: 8400...@gmail.com [mailto:8400...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of jond Sent: We

Exchange 2007 SCR -- Hardware?

2009-03-11 Thread jond
For the people here using SCR in Exchange 2007 SP1, what kind of hardware are you using relative to your production exchange boxes? Are you finding that as long as you have enough hard drive space, that processor and ram don't really matter or did you simply decide to run identical hardware on both

Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
We use a combination of Amavisd, Clamd and PostFix on our mail servers at our colo facility to scan for virus first, then spam before the mail is routed to our Exchange server internally. We use Centos as our flavor of *nix on these servers. As with most *nix solutions, free except for the time t

Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
+1 on ASSP. Just try not to deal with the developer directly. Thankfully there are plenty of other good ppl associated with the project. -- ME2 On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Tim Evans wrote: > +1 > > Assp is great, even if the main developer is a bit of an ass. > > > ...Tim > > >> -Ori

Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
*ahem* "good open-source/free product" -- ME2 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Steve Ens wrote: > Ninja rocks! > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Daniel Hood wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> I'm looking for a good open-source/free product that we can use in >> conjuction with our exchange server

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Randal, Phil
And, does it have to run on the same box as the Exchange server, or on another box? Are non-Windows solutions acceptable? I heartily recommend MailScanner (http://www.mailscanner.info), which we have running on a couple of CentOS 5 boxes. Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal | Networks Engineer Herefor

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Tim Evans
Anything that has lots of configurable options is going to take time to learn how to use, free or not. ���Tim > -Original Message- > From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:09 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Filtering Spam >

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Tim Evans
+1 Assp is great, even if the main developer is a bit of an ass. ...Tim > -Original Message- > From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:23 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Filtering Spam > > There's lots of good option

Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread John Bowles
First thing first when it comes to questions like this is.. what is the budget looking like for implementing this product? There are plenty of options out there, you just need to find which one fits within your budget and addresses the functionality you're looking for. _ John Bow

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Rick Corgiat
www.untangle.com The basic setup is free. It does spam filtering, content filtering, malware protection... If you opt for the monthly subscription there are add-ons like AD integration and so on... It runs on a fairly small PC - depending on the amount of users. Rick -Original Message- F

Re: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Don Andrews wrote: > All this assumes of course that your time is free. Having deployed MX Logic within the past year, I can assure you that payware products and services involve lots of time, too. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets

RE: Filtering Spam

2009-03-11 Thread Roger Wright
How many users? Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ -Original Message- From: Daniel Hood [mailto:dsmh...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Filtering Spam Hey, I'm looking for a good open-

RE: SCR Zero Dataloss

2009-03-11 Thread Liby Philip Mathew
Hi Smith While deploying SCR, my colleagues had an opinion that in case of a disaster, priority should be given to bring back the services online rather than protect against logical corruptions. So I requested the opinion of my boss who is not much into exchange. He came back asking what the