RE: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-30 Thread Stefan Jafs
I guess you do get access to the minor updates but you do not have access to the new v 5, correct? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: RIM SUPPORT Download from

RE: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-30 Thread Carol Fee
Issues Subject: Re: RIM SUPPORT We've never paid for RIM support. Instead, we call our carrier (Verizon) and have them help us and when they can't figure out the issue they implement the call to RIM. We've only had to do this about 4 times in 2.5 years. We have 110 licenses (104 in use

RE: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-30 Thread David Mazzaccaro
correct From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: RIM SUPPORT I guess you do get access to the minor updates but you do not have access to the new v 5, correct

RE: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-30 Thread Carol Fee
Download from their web site. CFee From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: RIM SUPPORT How do you keep your BES server up to date? Do you get the updates from your carrier

RE: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-30 Thread Stefan Jafs
How do you keep your BES server up to date? Do you get the updates from your carrier? ___ Stefan Jafs From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:47 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: RIM SUPPORT +1 on that method. The

Re: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-26 Thread Mike Sullivan
We've never paid for RIM support. Instead, we call our carrier (Verizon) and have them help us and when they can't figure out the issue they implement the call to RIM. We've only had to do this about 4 times in 2.5 years. We have 110 licenses (104 in use). Maybe you can take a sim

Re: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-26 Thread Jeff Brown
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 6:28 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: RIM SUPPORT > > Anyone tried www.astrasync.com ?? I'm rolling it out to five users next > week as a test. > > > From: Ben Scott [mailvor...@gmail.com

RE: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-26 Thread Mousa Hamad
ier.. Mousa Hamad -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 6:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: RIM SUPPORT Anyone tried www.astrasync.com ?? I'm rolling it out to five users

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2009-06-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
Anyone tried www.astrasync.com ?? I'm rolling it out to five users next week as a test. From: Ben Scott [mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: RIM SUPPORT On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:

Re: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-25 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Jeff Brown<2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Again, all they REALLY support for me is ONE BES server. Yah, same here. And really, I'm agreeing with you -- if RIM keeps pissing off their customers, they'll eventually find they don't have customers to piss off. -- Ben

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2009-06-25 Thread Jeff Brown
Again, all they REALLY support for me is ONE BES server. They do next to nothing EVER for the handhelds, all that is handled through an indirect sales agent. I don't think you could buy berries from RIM if you wanted to. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Ben Scott wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009

Re: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-25 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Steven Peck wrote: > Buy windows mobile devices and use ActiveSync? Last time I tried to get support on a Windows handheld -- which was, admittedly, years ago (it was an HP Jornada, if that tells you anything) -- I got bounced back and forth between HP and Micr

RE: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-25 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Yup. I've never had them ask From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: RIM SUPPORT Maybe below 50 is a good place to be. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:54 PM,

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2009-06-25 Thread Jeff Brown
@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:45 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: RIM SUPPORT > > This is from the email, my users went from 265 to 205 and the cost went > up OVER $1,500 for 12 months. > > > >> I took a look at what you paid f

RE: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-25 Thread David Mazzaccaro
40 devices Last year: $1625.00 This year: $1769.00 From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: RIM SUPPORT This is from the email, my users went from 265 to 205 and the cost

Re: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-25 Thread Jeff Brown
:35 AM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* RIM SUPPORT > > Any one else pissed about how RIM changed their support offerings? > I am a relatively small shop, with just over 200 phones and one BES server. > I can't imagine how they justify charging my support bas

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2009-06-25 Thread N Parr
umber of users increasing between license renewals. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RIM SUPPORT Any one else pissed about how RIM changed their support offerings? I

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2009-06-25 Thread Jeff Brown
What he's telling me is that this is the LOWEST POSSIBLE level of support for me to get, 5x8 is not an option anymore, for anyone. Maybe you're right, maybe it's just the salesperson. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Woodford wrote: > Maybe it's just your sales rep.. > > On the other hand,

Re: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-25 Thread Eric Woodford
Maybe it's just your sales rep.. On the other hand, we dropped from T4 Support -> T3 and the price drop on the contract was substantial. (We support 1,500 devices) On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Any one else pissed about how RIM changed their support off

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2009-06-25 Thread Steve Ens
AM > *To*: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" > *Subject*: RIM SUPPORT > > Any one else pissed about how RIM changed their support offerings? > I am a relatively small shop, with just over 200 phones and one BES server. > I can't imagine how they justify charging my support ba

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2009-06-25 Thread will...@lefkovics.net
Hockey teams are expensive to buy. From: "Jeff Brown" <2jbr...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:07 AM To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" Subject: RIM SUPPORT Any one else pissed about how RIM changed their support off

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2009-06-25 Thread John Cook
Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RIM SUPPORT Any one else pissed about how RIM changed their support offerings? I am a relatively small shop, with just over 200 phones and one BES server. I can't imagine how they ju

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2009-06-25 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Tell them you have 10 devices? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RIM SUPPORT Any one else pissed about how RIM changed their support offerings? I am a relatively small

Re: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-25 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Hmm, renewed our support earlier this year. ~35 BB's 1 BES server, didn't hear anything like this. We get our RIM stuff through our cell provider AT&T. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Any one else pissed about how RIM changed their support offerings? >

Re: RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-25 Thread Steven Peck
Buy windows mobile devices and use ActiveSync? On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Jeff Brown<2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Any one else pissed about how RIM changed their support offerings? > I am a relatively small shop, with just over 200 phones and one BES server. >  I can't imagine how they justif

RIM SUPPORT

2009-06-25 Thread Jeff Brown
Any one else pissed about how RIM changed their support offerings? I am a relatively small shop, with just over 200 phones and one BES server. I can't imagine how they justify charging my support based on the number of phones, because that affects them almost NOT AT ALL, as what they really do is