Re: [expert] XFCE -- the little engine that could!

2001-03-19 Thread C. CLOSE
Hi All, Thanks to Benjamin for the tip on XFCE it's quick and clean but I have one small problem with it. I am not sure whether specific to my installation or whether anyone else is seeing it; I open the file manager and open say /usr/bin when I try and scroll the list of files it

[expert] XFree-4.0.{1,2} completely freezes computer

2001-03-19 Thread Uri . Shenderovich
Hi, After working a while , X server completely freezes , so the only thing I can do is to push power button. I was trying it with different kernels ( 2.2.17,2.4.0,2.4.1,2.4.2 ) and different environments (KDE and GNOME) . Nothing matters. I have a dual SuperMicro 370DLE board with 2xPIII-800 , 25

Re: [expert] Upgrade from PII to Duron causes 7.2 and install CDs to fail

2001-03-19 Thread Mike MacCana
FYI, I also replaced my old video cards with a single GeForce 2 MX. Thanks, Mike > Hello all, > > I recently replaced the motherboard and CPU of my Pentium II 400 system > with an AMD Athlon 900 running a VIA KT133A chipset motherboard. > > Windows loads and detects the new drivers, and with

[expert] Upgrade from PII to Duron causes 7.2 and install CDs to fail

2001-03-19 Thread Mike MacCana
Hello all, I recently replaced the motherboard and CPU of my Pentium II 400 system with an AMD Athlon 900 running a VIA KT133A chipset motherboard. Windows loads and detects the new drivers, and with some fiddling, works fine - so I'm quite confident the hardware itself is installed and worki

Re: [expert] KDE startup crash

2001-03-19 Thread Robert Johansson
Hi Jason! Thanks for the tip! But I think my KDE problem is more fundamental, and starts even before ksplash and any applets etc are loaded. 'cause KDE never actually starts and I get the error > Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the > authentication protocols s

Re: [expert] startx starting wrong WM

2001-03-19 Thread A V Flinsch
On Saturday 17 March 2001 00:18, you wrote: > I don't have a .xinitrc. So I think the reason it's defaulting to > Gnome is because it gets listed first by '/usr/sbin/chksession -l', so > what I need is a way to restore KDE to the top spot. > /etc/X11/wmsession.d lists 01KDE then 02Gnome, but tha

Re: [expert] Basic on Linux

2001-03-19 Thread Rial Juan
The compiler still wouldn't create native linux apps though. Everything you compile this way will have to be executed in dosemu. On 2001.03.19 01:49 Bug Hunter wrote: > > Freedos works in a "dos box" under linux (also xdos in xwindows), and > you could run the program in it, perhaps > > On S

Re: [expert] libpng error: Call to NULL read function

2001-03-19 Thread Erik Günther
On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Erik Günther wrote: I did some search on the internet (deja, google, altavisa) and no hits! Are I the first person in the world that hit this problem? The line 'Call to NULL read function' did I found i one of the sorcefiles to libpng. > > Hi I'm having som truble with lib

Re: [expert] LM7.1 is better than 7.2

2001-03-19 Thread Rial Juan
Similar stuff here. CUPS didn't work. Now it does, but don't ask me what I've done to get it working, because I don't know, really. Just deinstalled and reinstalled it, and now it works. The screenshooter-applet (gnome) which always worked fine now produces jpegs 15 times bigger than before, whi

Re: [expert] Multimedia Mdk 8.0

2001-03-19 Thread Rial Juan
I use a program called "lamp" for the avis. Just search on freshmeat; it's listed. You could also try the open DivX stuff at http://www.opendivx.com and see if it works for you. They have this xmps avi plugin which doesn't seem to do anything here. In fact, xmps doesn't do much over here, it did

RE: [expert] BT848A and ftp client

2001-03-19 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN
Mandrake wouldnt let me use my Win TV since 7.2. RH 7.1b and xawtv work quite well though. KwinTV has real probs here too though. Brian -Original Message- From: Wayne Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] BT848

RE: [expert] hi all

2001-03-19 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN
Beta 2... Well first off, supermount is now a default. I could find no way to tell the installer no. After disc 1 was done installing, it kept my cdrom locked, and I ended up having to say cancel to the rest of the install of progs. The installer is good, the graphical bootup is real sharp. I

RE: [expert] BT848A and ftp client

2001-03-19 Thread falcaraz
Well, The betas 1 and 2 of MDK 8.0 have recognized well my Avermedia TVCapture 98; under 7.2 I have to introduce some changes in modules.conf: "alias char-major-81 bttv options bttv card=13 options tuner type=5" You need see the bttv documents to know what is your card number and tuner type;

Re: [expert] drivers for photo quality with HP-832c

2001-03-19 Thread Rial Juan
Here ya go, chap. Try this link: http://hp-linux.cern.ch/support/devprint.php3 It contains a link to: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi?make=HP&format=full which in turn links you to: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=250601 Seems like it's mostly work

[expert] regarding video card.

2001-03-19 Thread Joe
Doees linux mandrake 7.2 support Asus AGP 7100 GeForce 2 MX chipset video card..i have went to Linux mandrake hardware compatible list to refer ,and i can tfind the exactly name for my video card.so could your please check it for me .because i have to take decision to buy it or not..Hope you

[expert] Linux RAID capabilities

2001-03-19 Thread Lyric
Sirs, I am currently planning out a machine to be used when Mandrake 8.0 appears in full. In addition to the standard SCSI drives I will be using, I want to toss in two IDE 20 GB drives in a mirrored RAID. Basically, what I want to know is does Linux support a software RAID? If so, how do I

Re: [expert] Linux RAID capabilities

2001-03-19 Thread skribe
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:31, Lyric wrote: > > Basically, what I want to know is does Linux support a software RAID? If > so, how do I configure it? I would start my search here: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html -- Public key information available at: http://www.amber.com.a

Re: Re [expert] No exit from Evolution WM:

2001-03-19 Thread Matthew Micene
At 04:38 PM 3/17/2001 -0600, Benjamin Sher wrote: >Dear Michael and friends: >No, in Mandrake, at the console type: >startx Evolution >and you'll get the Evolution window manager. It's also listed in the >graphical login menu. I am afraid I must agree with Michael. There is NO Evolution window

RE: [expert] regarding video card.

2001-03-19 Thread Franki
Think you will find that to get it to work you will have to do the same as everyone else with a Nvidea chipset, go to their site and download their drivers...   Its a pain and it can be fiddly, but its well worth it once you see it working.   Frank Hauptle/ /  _     --

[expert] ifup user permissions - can anyone help?

2001-03-19 Thread Viktor Lakics
Hi All, I would like to use the ifup script to estabilish ppp. (I would like to have a console-mode tool, otherwise I can use kppp...). If I become root, and do ifup ppp0, I have the connection just fine, which I can brake with ifdown ppp0. This is just what I wanted, except that it works only fo

Re: [expert] OT: Databases

2001-03-19 Thread Dave Sherman
I think MySQL (included with MDK 7.2, probably earlier releases also) would fit your needs, running on the local workstation. It is open source, free, and (from what I have been told) has pretty good performance. Dave At 06:40 PM 03/18/2001 -0300, you wrote: >Do you know which database engine

Re: [expert] Upgrade from PII to Duron causes 7.2 and install CDs to fail

2001-03-19 Thread hooli
On Monday 19 March 2001 17:50, Mike wrote: > FYI, I also replaced my old video cards with a single GeForce 2 MX. > > Thanks, > > Mike > For your peace of mind(??!!) My config consists of MSI K7T mobo {FYI!! $lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0305 (rev 02) 00:

Re: [expert] ifup user permissions - can anyone help?

2001-03-19 Thread Rial Juan
Wild guess: try chmod +w on your modem device. I fixed it a while back, but I can't check what I did right now since the machine with the modem is at home, where I only live during the weekends. But I guess making your modem device world writable will be sufficient, guessing from the error messag

Re: [expert] Xfce menues?

2001-03-19 Thread Benjamin Sher
Dear Mark: This must a bug on your system. I would suggest joining the xfce mailing list and ask one of the list members for help. I reall don't know what the problem is. I imagine you have the latest version. I just left-click on the xfce desktop and this brings up the menu, with full menus for

Re: [expert] XFCE -- the little engine that could!

2001-03-19 Thread Benjamin Sher
Dear Colin and friends: Best thing to do if you have any problems with XFTree, xfce's limited file manager, is to add a menu entry to the toolbar/panel for Konqueror. In the command line type: kdesu /usr/bin/konqueror If you just type /usr/bin/konqueror, you will only be able to use Konqueror a

Re: [expert] Xfce menues?

2001-03-19 Thread David Boles
Benjamin, Would not know how to increase the fonts in the X-Term window in Xfce? Mine are so small I need a magnifying glass to read them. -Original Message - From: Benjamin Sher To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:50:04 -0600 Subject: Re: [expert] Xfce menues? > Dear Mark:

[expert] Mandrake 8.0 Xfree version

2001-03-19 Thread Tom Badran
Does xfree86 3.3.6 still ship with mandrake 8.0 as my card is not supported by the 4.0.x series yet -- Microsoft is not the answer, its the question. And the answer is no. www.badran.co.uk

Re: RE: [expert] ATI Radeon - hardware acceleration

2001-03-19 Thread Jim Dawson
> You can check to see if DRI is enabled in Xfree86 by checking your Xfree86 > config file. You should have a line that states: > Load "DRI" > However, I do not know if the radeon is currently supported for DRI. Sorry > in that respect. Best of luck! I think I saw something about XFree 4.0.3

Re: RE: [expert] ATI Radeon - hardware acceleration

2001-03-19 Thread Praedor Tempus
I saw the announcement and now await a Mandrake src.rpm so I can build it. The alternative is to download the DRI stuff directly from sourceforge and build/install it. I am also thinking about that. On Monday 19 March 2001 11:58, Jim Dawson wrote: > > You can check to see if DRI is enabled in

Re: [expert] rpm package inventory

2001-03-19 Thread Woody Green
tony K. wrote: > At 14:31 19-03-01 +1100, you wrote: > >>> How does one take the inventory of rpm packages installed on an >>> existing system (M7.2) >> > >> rpm -qa > "./package list.txt" > > >>> and then import the list to rpmDrake >>> (or similar) on an M8.0 installed system? >> > >> Hm

Re: [expert] Graphical boot and zope

2001-03-19 Thread Woody Green
Wayne Alexander wrote: > All, > how do I enable the graphical boot instead oif the text boot under 7.2? Edit /etc/inittab Find this line: id:3:initdefault: Change 3 to 5 and save, restart to test. > Also, I turned my machine on this morning and I have another user option > on my st

Re: [expert] XFCE -- the little engine that could!

2001-03-19 Thread Stephen Horton
Hi again Benjamin, Thanks for the tip about the extras for XFCE - I downloaded them and my desktop is looking very cool. Thanks again. Stephen -- Q===Q | Stephen Horton:-) | | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Website: http://www.wem.cl

Re: [expert] XF86 Mdk 8.0 - OOOPS!

2001-03-19 Thread Marc
The so called autoupdate tool from mandrake is pretty dangerous if you ask me. Some of my updates screwed up as well. I stick with the manual updates. Marc - Original Message - From: "Ron Heron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 7:00 PM Subject: [e

Re: [expert] OT: Databases

2001-03-19 Thread Pupeno
On Monday 19 March 2001 14:11, you wrote: > I think MySQL (included with MDK 7.2, probably earlier releases also) would > fit your needs, running on the local workstation. It is open source, free, > and (from what I have been told) has pretty good performance. I cannot tell people that, to use my

Re: [expert] Linux RAID capabilities

2001-03-19 Thread Marc
Linux Mandrake supports Software RAID, I don't know about the hardware raid devices but that probabaly works as well.. You can do RAID 0, RAID 1 (miror), RAID 4 and RAID 5 (maybe other RAIDs as well). It is not diffelcult to set it up. An example for a mirror (RAID 1) is: In a simpel basic exp

Re: [expert] XFCE -- the little engine that could!

2001-03-19 Thread Benjamin Sher
Dear Stephen: You are very welcome. And you are welcome to join my xfce-new mailing list. See my letter to the Mandrake lists. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [expert] regarding video card.

2001-03-19 Thread Robert Johansson
Hi Joe! Have a look at NVIDIAs website: http://www.nvidia.com/Products/Drivers.nsf/Linux.html > Joe wrote: > > Doees linux mandrake 7.2 support Asus AGP 7100 GeForce 2 MX chipset > video card..i have went to Linux mandrake hardware compatible list to > refer ,and i can tfind the exactly name f

Re: [expert] rpm package inventory

2001-03-19 Thread tony K.
At 12:13 19-03-01 -0700, you wrote: >What you're asking may be pretty difficult from what I've seen >of the MDK 8.0 RPM list. They done so much package sub-dividing >and renaming (I really, REALLY wish they'd quit that. Makes >trying to install 3rd party packages a PITA.) > >Basically you need

Re: [expert] XF86 Mdk 8.0 - OOOPS!

2001-03-19 Thread Gerry
> I did a dev update via MandrakeUpdate, and hosed my XF86. I tried > configuring via xf86config, but no worky, keep getting a "unable to load > default font "fixed". I got this problem when the x font daemon crashed due to a faulty font. Simply rebooting solved that one for me, since xfd is lo

[expert] mandrake security levels

2001-03-19 Thread avdi
Does anyone know where I can find a comprehensive list of the differences between the differenct security levels in 7.2? I recently had an experience where I switched from "High" to "Medium" and a bunch of (apparently) unrelated programs started to work where they hadn't before. E.G. fetchmailc

[expert] windows hosed my MBR

2001-03-19 Thread avdi
Hi, My name is Avdi, and I'm an idiot. Specifically, I installed Win98 on a partition I'd cleared for it on my Mandrake 7.2 system, *without* checking to make sure my emergency linux boot disk actually worked. Naturally, Win98 overwrote my MBR, and now I'm unable to boot linux. I can boot the

[expert] URPMI hangs

2001-03-19 Thread avdi
Hi again, I haven't been able to get URPMI to work since I installed 7.2 on a clean system. It simply hangs when I start it. The rpmdrake program hangs when I tell it to install a package as well. I've tried rebuilding the RPM database; I've even gone so far as to delete all urpmi's file and d

[expert] vmware install

2001-03-19 Thread Patrick Erler
hello MANDRAKE! did someone succesfully install mdk 8.0b2 in vmware? (athlon) regards, PAT -- vcard/LDAP/PGP: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55 BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF

Re: [expert] windows hosed my MBR

2001-03-19 Thread Rusty Carruth
(Courtesy copy bcc'd to Avdi directly) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > My name is Avdi, and I'm an idiot. Ah, be easy on yourself! We all have stories we could tell (I'm pretty sure) of the 'ohno-second's we've had (like the time I did rm -rf * from a subdir that just HAPPENED to have my

Re: [expert] KDE 2.1

2001-03-19 Thread Leopold Palomo
Ok, thank's it was a dummy thing!!! Best regards. Leo Digital Wokan wrote: > Set "Max number of "Quick Start" entries to 0. > You'll find it in Control Center -> LookNFeel -> Panel -> Menus > > Leopold Palomo wrote: > > Hi, > > I have upgraded my LM 7.2 to the kde 2.1 and I suffer a curious

Re: [expert] OT: Databases

2001-03-19 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 03.18 Pupeno wrote: > On Monday 19 March 2001 14:11, you wrote: > > I think MySQL (included with MDK 7.2, probably earlier releases also) would > > fit your needs, running on the local workstation. It is open source, free, > > and (from what I have been told) has pretty good performance. > I c

Re: [expert] mandrake security levels

2001-03-19 Thread David G . Powers
On Monday 19 March 2001 13:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find a comprehensive list of the differences > between the differenct security levels in 7.2? If you installed any documentation, have a look at msec.ps: # find / -name msec.ps # gv /msec.ps

Re: [expert] Kernel 2.4.2 and reiserfs

2001-03-19 Thread Leopold Palomo
Hi, thank's to both, Tom and Daryl. Now it works. I have had some others problems, but for another day. Best regards. Leo Daryl Johnson wrote: > You need to check the very first box 'y' for code maturity and experimentals > in xconfig, then this option will be available when you get to it > >

Re: [expert] windows hosed my MBR

2001-03-19 Thread Eric MC D
Do an UPGRADE from your CD. Select any unimprtant package to install and at the end say 'yes' to install lilo. It worked for me. Eric MC On Monday 19 March 2001 22:47, you wrote: | Hi, | | My name is Avdi, and I'm an idiot. | | Specifically, I installed Win98 on a partition I'd cleared for it on

Re: [expert] Helix-Gnome supports Mandrake! -- Official Word

2001-03-19 Thread Michael O'Henly
On Monday 19 March 2001 12:35, Benjamin Sher wrote: > I thought you might find this very reassuring: My hunch is that there's more to it than we're seeing here. Why is it so difficult for Ximian to support THE most popular desktop distro? He seems to be leaning a bit heavy on the weasel words

Re: [expert] Upgrade from PII to Duron causes 7.2 and install CDs to fail

2001-03-19 Thread Mike MacCana
> AMD t'bird 850 > and Mandrake 7.2 from the APC pbook. Hehe. Guess who wrote that (well, half of it)? :D Buy the Advanced one when it comes out next month... > "The install simply pauses during `Please Wait'. Again ,there's no error > message provided." > > At what point of the installation? A

Re: [expert] Console / X

2001-03-19 Thread Tom Cada
Peter Steneteg wrote: > > Hi, > I recently installed Mandrake 7.2 on my laptop > And after a while i discovered a couple problems > > 1. > My sound, I run sndconfig and everything work just fine but when I try it the sound >play in half speed. I have tested both with mpg123, xmms, soundtracker

[expert] KDE 2.1 installation woes

2001-03-19 Thread Neal Lippman
I am having trouble getting KDE 2.1 installed. My system is a baseline MDK 7.2 install, upgraded to 2.4.2 kernel which I compiled. I downloaded the Mandrake KDE 2.1 rpms from ftp.sourceforge.net, and have the following rpms in my kde-2.1 directory: arts-2.1-2mdk.i586.rpm kdeadmin-2.1-1mdk.i58

Re: [expert] regarding video card.

2001-03-19 Thread Clint Olson
Yes! It certainly does. I am the very happy owner of an ASUS AGP 7100 GeForce2 MX and it works great! I have used the 6x drivers and, more recently the 767 drivers (off of NVIDIA's website) and they work great! One note: the RPMs didn't work for me, so I downloaded and installed the tarballs a

[expert] automounting

2001-03-19 Thread Neal Lippman
Recently, I recall seeing some postings regarding supermount failing after upgrading the kernel to the 2.4.x series. I posted here, as did others, a few months ago regarding that; basically, there is code in /etc/rc.d/mandrake-everytime which disables the supermount keywords in /etc/fstab when

[expert] ppp0 script

2001-03-19 Thread Steve Young
can anyone recommend a good script for bring ppp0 up? -- registered linux user #190334

Re: [expert] Xfce menues?

2001-03-19 Thread Digital Wokan
NOW someone mentions that there's some setup step to be performed. All the other desktops are covered automatically by the common menuing system. Peter FREIMANN wrote: > > How'd you get all your KDE and Gnome menu items under the left mouse > > button. There aren't any there on mine. I had to ad

Re: [expert] windows hosed my MBR

2001-03-19 Thread Digital Wokan
And when you're done with that, look into mkbootdisk so if you do it again, you can boot to your Linux partition and rerun LILO to put it back into your MBR (dunno about GRUB). Eric MC D wrote: > > Do an UPGRADE from your CD. > Select any unimprtant package to install and at the end say 'yes' to

Re: [expert] XFCE -- the little engine that could!

2001-03-19 Thread Dennis Robertson
On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 10:36:27PM -0600, Benjamin Sher wrote: > Dear friends: > > TECHNICAL CONSIDERATIONS: > > If you are interested in trying out XFCE, please do NOT use the by now > old version in LM7.2. Instead, download the latest RH > xfce-3.7.2-1.i386.rpm. That's what I am using. I got

Re: [expert] xfce-new -- Subscription info

2001-03-19 Thread Larry Blodgett
Ok Benjamin I finally had to hard boot my machine (6 months of stability) all because of xfce. Maybe you can explain how this happened. I fired up xfce and I must admit it looks really cool so I let it run. When my monitor went into power save I simply hit the mouse (as I always do in KDE)

[Fwd: Re: [expert] Xserver unexpected shutdown.]

2001-03-19 Thread Pierre Fortin
FYI... am now running KDE2.1/X4.0.3/LM7.2 on laptop and this problem still exists. Pierre Original Message Subject: Re: [expert] Xserver unexpected shutdown. Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:10:59 -0500 From: Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mandrake Expert <

Re: [expert] xfce-new -- Subscription info

2001-03-19 Thread Benjamin Sher
Dear Larry: I am very sorry that I cannot help you. I am just an ordinary user who is very fond of xfce. However, check the Setup options. Make sure you scroll all the way down in each of the 4 tabbled categories (Palette, etc.). I believe there is a power management feature in xfce. I am not sur

Re: [expert] rpm package inventory

2001-03-19 Thread Rial Juan
On 2001.03.19 22:40 tony K. wrote: > 2) Forcing the user to work again and again his/her way manually > thru a list of over 1000 packages is INSANE. And one has to. I mean: how many users have a palmpilot? Right, then why the heck is it installed by default? > There ought to be a better way.

Re: [expert] xfce-new -- Subscription info

2001-03-19 Thread Collins Richey
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:54:19 -0600 Larry Blodgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok Benjamin I finally had to hard boot my machine (6 months of > stability) all because of xfce. Maybe you can explain how this > happened. I fired up xfce and I must admit it looks really cool so I > let it run.

Re: [expert] ppp0 script

2001-03-19 Thread Rial Juan
What's wrong with 'ifup' and 'ifdown'? /sbin/ifup ppp0 /sbin/ifdown ppp0 On 2001.03.20 04:57 Steve Young wrote: > can anyone recommend a good script for bring ppp0 up? > > -- > registered linux user #190334 > > > > -- Rial Juan

[expert] Mandrake update hit my PHP with a big stick, now it's broken =(...

2001-03-19 Thread Gabriel Fortuna
Hi All I used Mandrake update to update my php from 4.0.3pl3 to 4.0.4pl1. The update took a coupla minutes, but now when I do a test I see, isntead of the phpinfo page, the source. Here is an exerpt from my httpd.conf... [gabriel@coldblood gabriel]$ cat /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf |

[newbie] network switching app?

2001-03-19 Thread C Mead
Hi all, I decided to install 7.2 on my laptop to check it out Mandrake again... When selecting the packages during install I noticed a package that claimed to allow me to switch internet options 'between work and home' as I have a adsl connection at home and connect to a dhcp server at work I w

Re: [expert] Helix-Gnome supports Mandrake! -- Official Word

2001-03-19 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 03.19 Benjamin Sher wrote: > > There are some bugs in helix-update that prevent us from releasing the > most critical package (an updated gdm) through normal channels, so at > this point it looks like we're waiting for Red Carpet to mature a bit > more. In the meantime, the updated gdm packag

[expert] Helix-Gnome supports Mandrake! -- Official Word

2001-03-19 Thread Benjamin Sher
Dear friends: I thought you might find this very reassuring: Subject: Re: [HC Hello] Ximian-Gnome NOT on Mandrake 7.2 -- Why? Date: 19 Mar 2001 14:51:34 -0500 From: Mark Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are some bugs in helix-update that prevent us from re

[expert] Join xfce-new -- the mailing list for the rest of us!

2001-03-19 Thread Benjamin Sher
Dear friends: I would like to invite all of you who are currently using or are planning on using the XFCE, the little desktop that could (and does!), to join xfce-new, a mailing list for all NEWCOMERS, whether newbies who are planning on becoming professional programmers or just ordinary users (i

[expert] xfce-new -- Subscription info

2001-03-19 Thread Benjamin Sher
Dear friends: I apologize for the inconvenience, but subscribing to a Yahoo group (mailing list) is not quite so simple. For those of you who are interested in joining the xfce-new mailing list, here are revised instructions. I hope they work: Send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or just cont