Re: [expert] 8.2: Upgrade or clean install?

2002-03-24 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2002-03-25 at 02:25, David Guntner wrote: > I've downloaded the 8.2 ISO files and will be burning them to a CD when I > get a chance (once the 8.2 Powerpack box set is in the store, I'll be > picking that up). I'm currently running 8.1. Has anyone here done an > upgrade install from 8

[expert] 8.2: Upgrade or clean install?

2002-03-24 Thread David Guntner
I've downloaded the 8.2 ISO files and will be burning them to a CD when I get a chance (once the 8.2 Powerpack box set is in the store, I'll be picking that up). I'm currently running 8.1. Has anyone here done an upgrade install from 8.1 to 8.2? If so, how smooth was the upgrade? Would I b

Re: [expert] Beowulf presentation

2002-03-24 Thread FemmeFatale
see?? Some smooth liar you are! K Ty. Was curious to see if it'd be useful to me. I don't think so. Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, FemmeFatale wrote: > > You mean there's supposed to be some other reason besides bragging > rights? Incredible. > > During the winter

Re: [expert] XFree 4.2.0 (repost)

2002-03-24 Thread Larry Sword
Praedor Tempus wrote: > > This brings up a question that has bothered me, though > I have never run into the problems Oscar is seeing. I > have always selected the XFree86 4.x version during > install - which Xfconfig file is THE file? It seems > that some things I add to Xfconfig-4 don't take

Re: [expert] OpenGL misery

2002-03-24 Thread Damian
El dom, 24-03-2002 a las 10:10, Jason Guidry escribió: > Charles A Edwards wrote: > > On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 22:56:28 -0600 > > Jason Guidry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>I'm trying to complile MusE which requires qt qhich requires OpenGL. > >>all the opengl page tells me is that I alread

Re: [expert]How to clone a drive

2002-03-24 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 15:11, J. Craig Woods wrote: > Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 03:34, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > > > I'm amazed that this is the Expert list and yet no one in this thread as > > of today has suggested using plain old "dd" and the partition devices. > > You a

Re: [expert] I am sorry

2002-03-24 Thread Skippi
This is true. My experience with MDK 8.1 -- PI / 150MHz box, 64M RAM -- installed, worked just fine. PII / 250MHz box, 188M RAM -- tried to install 9 times. Never made it work. Fout times never even got thru the install program before it crashed and burned. I'm not saying MDK is perfect (wha

Re: [expert] XFree 4.2.0 (repost)

2002-03-24 Thread Praedor Tempus
This brings up a question that has bothered me, though I have never run into the problems Oscar is seeing. I have always selected the XFree86 4.x version during install - which Xfconfig file is THE file? It seems that some things I add to Xfconfig-4 don't take or to be safe, I usually add the i

[expert] More info on filesystem encryption.

2002-03-24 Thread Scott Garman
Hi all, I've just given 8.2 a spin after being a lifelong RedHat user, and I love Mandrake - it's got some great features and is a very progressive distribution. One of the most interesting features to me in this release is the filesystem encryption, which is working great on my laptop. I'd like

[expert] Logitech Clicksmart 510 ......... WAS [newbie] [BUG?] [SOLVED?] opl3sa2 ISA PnP soundcard in 8.2 - yeah, I changed it!

2002-03-24 Thread David
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:31:56 -0700 Miark said onto me: > Just a quick note to say I'm glad you got this working. > Goes to show you that if Linux newbies exhibit the same > patience you have, the answers will come. Many others > would have given up by now. > > Miark GIVE UP? And do what, g

Re: [expert] M$ has done it again. Good thing we have Linux.

2002-03-24 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 09:33, Michael Holt wrote: > Yesterday... Lyvim Xaphir ran for the door shrieking: > > >> Mandrake has released 8.2 with quite a few bugs, you may be one of the > >> lucky few who are using a combination of the right hardware / not using a > >> lot of the software packages

Re: [expert] Problem with a Dell Pentium Pro

2002-03-24 Thread civileme
Edvard Wikström wrote: >Hello again, > >Civileme, I followed your suggestion I tried the memory test program. I don´t know >what conclusion to make of it. It took it 50 min to finish and then it started again. >I was expectiing a "status report" or a "summary". I didn´t get any information >a

Re: [expert] VIA Chipset Performance Handicap

2002-03-24 Thread Kyle McDonald
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 02:02, Kyle McDonald wrote: > > > Kyle, > > This was an excellent read. I've snipped for reasons of brevity but I > did read the whole deal. Responses below.. > Glad you liked it :) >> >>Now on something totally different. I think this grew

Re: [expert] OpenGL misery

2002-03-24 Thread Jason Guidry
Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 22:56:28 -0600 > Jason Guidry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>I'm trying to complile MusE which requires qt qhich requires OpenGL. >>all the opengl page tells me is that I already have it, but rpm says no. >> >>Current configuration is: >> >>XFre

Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Am I the ONLY one or does 8.2 REALLYStink??????????]

2002-03-24 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 17:14, J. Craig Woods wrote: > Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > > > Yeah, I'm getting real sick of this M$ cloak-and-dagger > > assassin crap. > > Now we get this one. Now you all please pardon me if you > > think I'm being slightly paranoid; > > Hey Lyvim, > > Do you think Bad B

Re: [expert] Why Linux?

2002-03-24 Thread José Pedro Sousa do Amaral
Em Domingo, Março 24, 2002, às 10:22 , Tim Holmes escreveu: > So why do you use Mac? I like Macs and they are my main machines. I do run Mandrake Linux (on a dual Celeron 500 MHz) as well. If I compare Mandrake Linux to MOSX for overall desktop use, I prefer MOSX--it looks better, it is more

Re: [expert] OpenGL misery now qt trauma

2002-03-24 Thread Jason Guidry
ok, so qt spent about 2 hours compiling...no errors. now with gmake install... rm -f /usr/local/qt/bin/qmake ln -s /usr/local/qt/qmake/qmake /usr/local/qt/bin/qmake gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/qt/qmake' cd qmake && gmake install gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/qt/qmake' [ -

Re: [expert] OpenGL misery

2002-03-24 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 22:56:28 -0600 Jason Guidry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to complile MusE which requires qt qhich requires OpenGL. > all the opengl page tells me is that I already have it, but rpm says no. > > Current configuration is: > > XFree 4.1.0 with 3D hardware accelerat

Re: [expert] OpenGL misery

2002-03-24 Thread Jason Guidry
Luke Vandervort wrote: > Try installing with the tar.gz package instead of the rpm. Sometimes the > information obtained with the package manage is in error. Try the other and > see if you get any error messages. > I'll try it, but it's a big dog (15+MB), so It'll be a while, thanks. > Also,

Re: [expert] XFree 4.2.0 (repost)

2002-03-24 Thread Oscar
El sáb, 23-03-2002 a las 18:19, civileme escribió: > Oscar wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >Mandrake 8.2 is a excelent distro, but I still have one problem. > >With Mandrake 8.1 I could have the XFree 4.x, but with 8.2 I am forced > >to use 3.3.6. > > > >When I select 4.2.0, I obtain a screen that blin

Re: [expert] OpenGL misery

2002-03-24 Thread Luke Vandervort
Try installing with the tar.gz package instead of the rpm. Sometimes the information obtained with the package manage is in error. Try the other and see if you get any error messages. Also, you may have to adjust the installation scripts to point to the proper location of your open gl files.

[expert] OpenGL misery

2002-03-24 Thread Jason Guidry
I'm trying to complile MusE which requires qt qhich requires OpenGL. all the opengl page tells me is that I already have it, but rpm says no. Current configuration is: XFree 4.1.0 with 3D hardware acceleration Keyboard layout: us Mouse type: IMPS/2 Monitor: Generic|High Frequency SVGA, 1024x7

Re: [expert] VIA Chipset Performance Handicap

2002-03-24 Thread Lorne Shantz
Thanks. My poor brother got stuck with it. He IS still having trouble. I know he put some new firmware in it, but not sure if his problems have gone away. I'll forward this on to him to see if it can help him. Thanks. I'm happy to be rid of it. I just wished I hadn't given it to my brother. Sorry

Re: [expert] VIA Chipset Performance Handicap

2002-03-24 Thread Lorne Shantz
I went with ABIT using the via 133 chipset. I used everything I could to my advantage. Contacting (or attempting to contact ABIT) was a futile effort. Bottom line is line is the via chip set it junk. I need stable. I wasn't trying to overclock and it would still do crappy stuff. Lock up, things li

Re: [expert] what about a libpng2 substitute for mdk 8.2

2002-03-24 Thread David
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 02:50:32 -0600 s said onto me: > On Saturday 23 March 2002 02:00 pm, you wrote: > > and this issue still has'nt cropped up with anyone ?? > > what? no one on this list uses 8.2 (fresh install) and kmerlin ! > > well, I thought I read where you could install libpng3 too, j

Re: [expert] VIA Chipset Performance Handicap

2002-03-24 Thread Terry Mathews
Know what? Go buy your Intel SDRAM-based solution. I wouldn't want VIA to lose prescious money on you; money that you would surely use up in tech support calls. Just don't come crying to us when your prescious Intel delivers a solution that doesn't feel any faster than a P3. Terry > You need win

Re: [expert] sensor readings

2002-03-24 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday 23 March 2002 03:44 am, Brian Parish wrote: > thread I finally got around to getting sensors going on my main > box. The output I get is: > CPU core: +1.74 V (min = +1.79 V, max = +2.18 V) ALARM > +2.5V: +2.68 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.03 V) > I/O: +3.47 V (min =

Re: [expert] Why Linux?

2002-03-24 Thread Tim Holmes
To answer Femme's questions. Cocoa is developement language that is, now, heavily used on Mac OSX. It's supposed to be very simple, makes very good light weight apps. I've only seen it used on TechTV, but I've heard that it makes programming very easy. A lot of people have a lot of nice thing

Re: [expert] M$ has done it again. Good thing we have Linux.

2002-03-24 Thread Michael Holt
Yesterday... Lyvim Xaphir ran for the door shrieking: >> Mandrake has released 8.2 with quite a few bugs, you may be one of the >> lucky few who are using a combination of the right hardware / not using a >> lot of the software packages available. Please, no flames, I'm not >> working for mic

Re: [expert] Beowulf presentation

2002-03-24 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 24 March 2002 08:03 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, FemmeFatale wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I thought some Mandrake users might be interested in this: > > > > > > Last Thursday (3/15/02) our local Linux user group > > > (http://www.flux.org) had a speake

Re: [expert] Why Linux?

2002-03-24 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Omnus Necromancy wrote: > If your not running a server, or doing a task that requires linux > specifically, why are you using it? This sounds like troll-bait, but I can't help but answering. ;-) For me, its all about choice and freedom. Unlike Microsoft products, I'm not forced into anything.

Re: [expert] Beowulf presentation

2002-03-24 Thread kwan
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, FemmeFatale wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I thought some Mandrake users might be interested in this: > > > > Last Thursday (3/15/02) our local Linux user group (http://www.flux.org) > > had a speaker demonstrating how to setup a Beowulf. It was a small > > clu

Re: [expert] XFree 4.2.0 (repost), OT vid drivers

2002-03-24 Thread FemmeFatale
Ty Darren. You're a doll ;) Femme Darren King wrote: > > I gonna do it tomorrow ...Ill post my findings and a step by step.. > > On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 21:18, FemmeFatale wrote: > > care to give me a stepbystep? :) > > > > I've never done this. > > > > Femme > > > > Darren King wrote: > > > >

Re: [expert] XFree 4.2.0 (repost), OT vid drivers

2002-03-24 Thread Darren King
I gonna do it tomorrow ...Ill post my findings and a step by step.. On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 21:18, FemmeFatale wrote: > care to give me a stepbystep? :) > > I've never done this. > > Femme > > Darren King wrote: > > > > it's not hardtypical configure, make, make install sequencethe > >

Re: [expert] XFree 4.2.0 (repost), OT vid drivers

2002-03-24 Thread FemmeFatale
care to give me a stepbystep? :) I've never done this. Femme Darren King wrote: > > it's not hardtypical configure, make, make install sequencethe > only tricky thing is modifying the X startup files. > > Darren > > On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 10:51, FemmeFatale wrote: > > K thx Darren. G

Re: [expert] Why Linux?, OT cocoa with honey!?

2002-03-24 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 04:40, FemmeFatale wrote: > Amen LX. :) > > Honey in cocoa though The raw kind...not the clear yellow stuff that usually passes for honey in the stores. Something happens to the taste when you combine it with pure cocoa toobecomes more liquid chocolate than anythi

Re: [expert] VIA Chipset Performance Handicap

2002-03-24 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 02:02, Kyle McDonald wrote: Kyle, This was an excellent read. I've snipped for reasons of brevity but I did read the whole deal. Responses below.. > There are far more (what's wrong with ALi? memory?) different brands > and models to choose from in the AMD market than t

Re: [expert] Why Linux?, OT cocoa with honey!?

2002-03-24 Thread FemmeFatale
Amen LX. :) Honey in cocoa though Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 17:17, FemmeFatale wrote: > > whats cocoa? > > That stuff you mix with honey so you can make some hot chocolate. Cup > of 2 parts milk, 1 part half&half, microwave for 2 minutes (YMMV). > Spoon cocoa and hone

Re: [expert] VIA Chipset Performance Handicap

2002-03-24 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 00:20, Terry Mathews wrote: > > > overclocked to 964 mhz. If you've got more URL's backing up what you > > > > I don't overclock anything. I want bulletproof. > Overclocked does not mean not stable. I've got a 1.4/266 T-Bird that runs > stable at 1.52GHz @ 143MHz bus. That m

Re: [expert] Bootsplash

2002-03-24 Thread Dave Naylor
Hello Robin You wrote about "RE: [expert] Bootsplash" > You need to uninstall the bootsplash package and remove quiet in the > append line in lilo. I've done this, well to the Grub menu list anyway and it worked. I didn't have to remove bootsplash and I reckon it looks pretty cool now :) --

Re: [expert] Bootsplash

2002-03-24 Thread Dave Naylor
Hello Charles You wrote about "Re: [expert] Bootsplash" > > I've tried editing /etc/sysconfig/bootsplash and the > > /etc/bootsplash/themes/Mandrake/ config files but to no avail. > > I just want to see the messages scroll thru thats all :) > In /etc/lilo.conf remove "quiet" from the app

Re: [expert] VIA Chipset Performance Handicap

2002-03-24 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 01:42, Terry Mathews wrote: > > > > > http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/02q1/020220/kt333-11.html > > Yes, but most games these days are very CPU and memory bandwidth intensive. > How else do you propose testing the speed of a motherboard without pushing > it's hardwar

Re: [expert] what about a libpng2 substitute for mdk 8.2

2002-03-24 Thread s
On Saturday 23 March 2002 02:00 pm, you wrote: > and this issue still has'nt cropped up with anyone ?? > what? no one on this list uses 8.2 (fresh install) and kmerlin ! well, I thought I read where you could install libpng3 too, jsut make sure it is an install. but I've just been symlinkin

Re: [expert] VIA Chipset Performance Handicap

2002-03-24 Thread Kyle McDonald
I got your reply to my post, but I thought I'd reply here instead. Felix Miata wrote: > Terry Mathews wrote: > > >>>The PCI performance deficiency survived many VIA chipsets. >>> > > >>And VIA fixed it in their chipsets. The latest VIA 4-in-one drivers >>integrate the PCI timing latency patc

RE: [expert] I am sorry

2002-03-24 Thread David Stevenson
If everyone subscribed to this list detailed their hardware, very few would have the identical hardware! Any OS that installs out of the box on half of those is worth it's salt. Windows rely on the third party vendors to get the support right, after installing windows you then have to spend anoth

Re: [expert] VIA Chipset Performance Handicap

2002-03-24 Thread Felix Miata
Kyle McDonald wrote: > Felix Miata wrote: > > I don't overclock anything. I want bulletproof. I lied. I have a TX chipset (max 66 Mhz bus) Socket 7 (ATX) running at 83, which means the PCI bus is running 41.5. I have a similar one from the same manufacturer with the same TX chipset that won't