Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread James
I've been watching how this thread progressed. I've noticed two pieces of FUD that keep appearing. 1. The assumption that a virus writer wouldn't know that he/she needs to be root to do real damage and that he/she won't do just that. Don't give yourself a sense of false security here. All

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread Damian G
On Sun, 2 Jun 2002 23:38:05 -0700 James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been watching how this thread progressed. I've noticed two pieces of FUD that keep appearing. 1. The assumption that a virus writer wouldn't know that he/she needs to be root to do real damage and that he/she won't do

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread civileme
Raider wrote: On Sun, 2002-06-02 at 21:42, J. Craig Woods wrote: Sevatio, I couldn't agree with you more. This is the Great Secret that Micro$oft, Symantec, and many other big software companies, work so hard to keep secret. Just consider what they stand to lose, in revenue, if more people

[expert] Control Centre compiled applets not appearing

2002-06-03 Thread Alastair Scott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have KDE 3.0.1 (the /opt version) and LM8.2. Before I go to the KDE lists I ask here, as there may be a problem with Mandrake per se. A problemette with 3.0.0 that remains in 3.0.1 is that KDE Control Centre applications which are supposed to

[expert] LVM snapshot problem in mdk8.2

2002-06-03 Thread Alexander Piavka
Hi, i have problem then making shaphot in LVM i create a shapshot volume with lvcreate -L300M -s -n tmp_snapshot /dev/sys/tmp it succeeds but then i try to mount it i get error: mount /dev/sys/tmp_snapshot mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sys/tmp_snapshot, or too

[expert] Killing off Supermount

2002-06-03 Thread Timothy R. Butler
Hi everyone, I have a friend who is new to Mandrake (but not Linux) and is interested in removing supermount. He has tried disabling it in mcc, and that did the trick a/f/a the CD-ROM drive, however the diskette drive is still being managed by supermount for some reason. Does anyone have

Re: [expert] Killing off Supermount

2002-06-03 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sun, 2 Jun 2002 13:59:48 -0500 Timothy R. Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I have a friend who is new to Mandrake (but not Linux) and is interested in removing supermount. He has tried disabling it in mcc, and that did the trick a/f/a the CD-ROM drive, however the

Re: [expert] Killing off Supermount

2002-06-03 Thread Udo Rader
the desicion, which device is handled by supermount is set - as usually - in /etc/fstab. in order to get your floppy working w/o supermount, you should change the floppy entry: CUT /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread darklord
On Sunday 02 June 2002 03:12 pm, you wrote: But there is the majority of real dumb ppl. I remember a case where a lady in USA won a liability case against a manufacturer of microwave ovens because the manual of the oven did not state explicitely that you must not put your cat in the oven for

[expert] What changes the GID Perms?

2002-06-03 Thread Albert E. Whale
I'm using LM 8.2 (new install), and running several mailing list. I have grown to like MailMan, a GNU tool. At msec 3 4 I am continually having to reset the /home/mailman perms back to 02775. Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can stop the madness? I have already tried the

[expert] running 2 linuxes on a single machine

2002-06-03 Thread Chavdar Videff
Hi I tried and installed two different distributions of linux on the same machine in order to compare them, etc. The first one was a Mandrake 8.1 and I use its lilo to boot all other OS. Everything was OK and worked smoothly. However, I installed a SuSE 7.0 and during the installation process

Re: [expert] running 2 linuxes on a single machine

2002-06-03 Thread J Herzfeld
Date sent: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 16:16:24 +0300 From: Chavdar Videff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[expert] running 2 linuxes on a single machine Well, it is possible to

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, darklord wrote: On Sunday 02 June 2002 03:12 pm, you wrote: But there is the majority of real dumb ppl. I remember a case where a lady in USA won a liability case against a manufacturer of microwave ovens because the manual of the oven did not state explicitely that

Re: [expert] popup killer for linux?

2002-06-03 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach Jeferson Lopes Zacco am 2002-06-02 um 20:36:32 -0300 : Yes there is... AOL... AOL? What do you mean by that? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de |Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [expert] [OT] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread Felix Miata
darklord wrote: Sorry if there are any lawyers in the crowd - I just think there is way too much useless litigation in this country... ;-( Which country would that be? Isn't Mandrake a French source distro? Isn't this a worldwide mailing list? -- It is impossible to rightly govern the world

[Fwd: Re: [expert] running 2 linuxes on a single machine]

2002-06-03 Thread Chavdar Videff
Original Message Subject: Re: [expert] running 2 linuxes on a single machine Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 16:56:35 +0300 From: Chavdar Videff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [expert] popup killer for linux?

2002-06-03 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach Jeferson Lopes Zacco am 2002-06-02 um 20:36:32 -0300 : Yes there is... AOL... AOL? What do you mean by that? O! thats just nasty...yuck! -- Mark a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR -- If your wife told you NOT to do it there's

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread Praedor Tempus
On Monday 03 June 2002 01:38 am, James wrote: I've been watching how this thread progressed. I've noticed two pieces of FUD that keep appearing. 1. The assumption that a virus writer wouldn't know that he/she needs to be root to do real damage and that he/she won't do just that. Don't

RE: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
.On Monday 03 June 2002 01:38 am, James wrote: I've been watching how this thread progressed. I've noticed two pieces of FUD that keep appearing. 1. The assumption that a virus writer wouldn't know that he/she needs to be root to do real damage and that he/she won't do just that. Don't

Re: [expert] What changes the GID Perms?

2002-06-03 Thread Ray Warren
On 3 Jun 2002 at 9:03, Albert E. Whale wrote: At msec 3 4 I am continually having to reset the /home/mailman perms back to 02775. Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can stop the madness? I have already tried the /etc/security/msec/security.conf file and have not found a valid

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Why not? If there is a security bug hidden somewhere it better be made public quickly, so somebody is going to fix it and somebody else is going to validate the fix. And, in the meantime, you will be aware of it and might decide to take some action. I don't think anybody wants a

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread Praedor Tempus
And this leads to the simple conclusion that if one has physical access to a computer, then security is largely out the window. Any clown could come in and bootup with a rescue disk (addressing the linux aspect) and do whatever to your drives. If they had the time, they could also bring in a

Re: [expert] What changes the GID Perms?

2002-06-03 Thread Albert E. Whale
Thank you Ray! That fits the Bill Perfectly! I guess I was unable to follow the documentation. I did not see the reference in the man msec page in the man mseclib page. Might I recommend a little update on the Documentation for the Man Page on msec? Ray Warren wrote: On 3 Jun 2002 at 9:03,

[expert] apache alias problem on 8.2

2002-06-03 Thread faisal gillani
Well my alias on apache server present in MDK 8.2 are not working .. now even the preconfigured alias ie /icons/ acess forbidden message is coming what can be wrong ? = *º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤ Allah-hu-Akber*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ __ Do You Yahoo!?

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday 03 June 2002 10:29 am, D. Olson wrote: On Monday 03 June 2002 11:13 am, you wrote: Just to put my .02 in on that. I'm not sure that a trick like that is something that should be broadcast on a public list. Why not? Isn't that how things get fixed? For instance, if there is a

Re: [expert] apache alias problem on 8.2

2002-06-03 Thread Albert E. Whale
Check the Directory Permissions, I had that on mine as well. Apparently there is a different user for Apache in 8.2. faisal gillani wrote: Well my alias on apache server present in MDK 8.2 are not working .. now even the preconfigured alias ie /icons/ acess forbidden message is coming

Re: [expert] samba and SWAT and webmin and MCC

2002-06-03 Thread Olle Hallin
- Original Message - From: Arief Rakhmatsyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [expert] samba and SWAT and webmin and MCC - Original Message - From: Lee Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've seen people mention

Re: [expert] samba and SWAT and webmin and MCC

2002-06-03 Thread daRcmaTTeR
On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Olle Hallin wrote: - Original Message - From: Arief Rakhmatsyah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [expert] samba and SWAT and webmin and MCC - Original Message - From: Lee Roberts

[expert] wlan problems

2002-06-03 Thread Praedor Tempus
I can't recall if it was discussed recently in this list or not but I would swear that not too long ago someone mentioned a problem with orinoco cards and the yenta_socket module. I have an orinoco gold card installed on a Mandrake 8.2 system, using the wvlan_cs module with the yenta_socket.

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread D. Olson
On Monday 03 June 2002 11:13 am, you wrote: Just to put my .02 in on that. I'm not sure that a trick like that is something that should be broadcast on a public list. Why not? Isn't that how things get fixed? For instance, if there is a big exploit in Mandrake's patchwork kernel, and no one

[expert] Wlan problems continued

2002-06-03 Thread Praedor Tempus
I have a desktop containing a PCI to PCMCIA card with an Orinoco Gold and a laptop using a Zoomair prism2-based wlan card. I know the Zoomair works fine as I have successfully used it to connect to various wireless networks. I have not had the same experience with the Orinoco card, however.

[expert] OT: Testing a Modem / Telephone Line

2002-06-03 Thread Randy Kramer
I know this is somewhat off topic, but do any of you have suggestions on how to test a modem / phone line? Please read the following before responding. My problem is that I get a lot of disconnects on my 33 kbps dial up line. Several months ago, my ISP adopted a new policy -- I won't try to

Re: [expert] OT: Testing a Modem / Telephone Line

2002-06-03 Thread Bill Randle
Randy, Have you noticed any difference the frequency of disconnects based on weather? E.g., is it any worse after it rains compared to an extended dry spell? What about time of day? Is it any worse during the day compared to night time? Do you use the same phone line for your regular voice

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread darklord
On Monday 03 June 2002 11:39 am, you wrote: And this leads to the simple conclusion that if one has physical access to a computer, then security is largely out the window. Any clown could come in and bootup with a rescue disk (addressing the linux aspect) and do whatever to your drives. If

[Fwd: Re: [expert] Killing off Supermount]

2002-06-03 Thread Udo Rader
just to keep it on the list ---BeginMessage--- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 THanks Udo, but those are suggestions that I have already tried. The CD stops automounting, but the floppy won't. And, I cannot mount a floppy formatted with ext2, unless I go to root and issue

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread Ken Hawkins
darklord wrote: On Monday 03 June 2002 11:39 am, you wrote: And this leads to the simple conclusion that if one has physical access to a computer, then security is largely out the window. Any clown could come in and bootup with a rescue disk (addressing the linux aspect) and do

Re: [expert] Killing off Supermount

2002-06-03 Thread Udo Rader
hmm, that is strange indeed. if your floppy is still supermounted (though disabled in fstab), then what does a plain % mount give you? and what is the content of /etc/fstab /etc/mtab? another thing: if you disable supermount in /etc/fstab, you'll have to umount the devices afterwards as

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread J. Craig Woods
darklord wrote: Wait! Its my MPEG of Tommy and Heather Locklear during their honeymoon, I'll just bet ;- Oh shit! You should have kept this quiet. I know for sure now you will soon be fighting off attacks from all over the world. Just the thought of that mpeg has me firing up the

[expert] better web indexer than htdig?

2002-06-03 Thread Vincent Danen
Does anyone know if such a beast exists? Searching on freshmeat and only htdig came up. I have it running on a box that is running htdig against a bunch of mailing list archives and it takes about 16hrs every time to complete the entire run. There *has* to be something more efficient than

Re: [expert] Building Exim mail server (uid and gid)

2002-06-03 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon May 27, 2002 at 07:46:42PM +1000, Mark Williamson wrote: [...] You can base your exim rpm on my own (www.rpmhelp.net), which I think was done for 8.0 or 8.1 (forget which). It hasn't been updated in a while. I think it will resolve this problem. Just taking a peek at my rpm

Re: [expert] Killing off Supermount

2002-06-03 Thread civileme
Timothy R. Butler wrote: Hi everyone, I have a friend who is new to Mandrake (but not Linux) and is interested in removing supermount. He has tried disabling it in mcc, and that did the trick a/f/a the CD-ROM drive, however the diskette drive is still being managed by supermount for some

RE: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread Udo Rader
thats why we have our servers under 3meters of concrete and behind multiple access-control systems ... unless mcguyver comes along and uses his swiss pocketknife to disengage all entrance barriers ;-)) even on enterprise they still have those bad aliens compromizing their systems sometimes ...

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread Praedor Tempus
On Monday 03 June 2002 10:13 am, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: .On Monday 03 June 2002 01:38 am, James wrote: I've been watching how this thread progressed. I've noticed two pieces of FUD that keep appearing. 1. The assumption that a virus writer wouldn't know that he/she needs to be root to

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread Ken Hawkins
DONT USE A COMPUTER?!! SACRILIGE! We must track down and burn this heretic before other listen to him and come to their senses!!! Thousands of SysAdmins with no real-life skills left to wander the streets? Imagine the mayhem! K Udo Rader wrote: thats why we have our servers under

Re: [expert] OT: Testing a Modem / Telephone Line

2002-06-03 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 15:31:51 -0400 Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My problem is that I get a lot of disconnects on my 33 kbps dial up line. Hi Randy, All of Bill's points plus... - do you have call waiting or other intrusive-notification features? sure the telco didn't add some by

Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] running 2 linuxes on a single machine]

2002-06-03 Thread J. Craig Woods
Chavdar Videff wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: [expert] running 2 linuxes on a single machine Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 16:56:35 +0300 From: Chavdar Videff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL

Re: [expert] better web indexer than htdig?

2002-06-03 Thread Randy Kramer
I hear good things about Namazu -- see http://www.namazu.org/doc/tutorial.html#can-not-do. Randy Kramer Vincent Danen wrote: Does anyone know if such a beast exists? Searching on freshmeat and only htdig came up. I have it running on a box that is running htdig against a bunch of mailing

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread D. Olson
On Monday 03 June 2002 11:39 am, you wrote: The only way to prevent this is to turn off the booting from CD in bios and Of course this wouldn't prevent them from booting from a floppy diskette. password protecting bios, but then, with physical access it is trivial to kill the bios password

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread D. Olson
On Monday 03 June 2002 12:04 pm, you wrote: hype. As Civileme said (my paraphase), don't run as root, and be aware that the closed source binary only apps and drivers you might use on a Linux system should be your greater concern. They do taint your kernel, Mandrake patched or not. What?

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread Jeferson Lopes Zacco
civileme wrote: Well, if we were to build it idiot proof, someone would build a better idiot. The linux virus is a danger to those who download binaries from dubious sites. and to all who run as root. Even with our poison red screen and autologin to a non-priveleged user, there

Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.

2002-06-03 Thread D. Olson
On Monday 03 June 2002 06:07 pm, you wrote: thats why we have our servers under 3meters of concrete and behind multiple access-control systems ... unless mcguyver comes along and uses his swiss pocketknife to disengage all entrance barriers ;-)) even on enterprise they still have those bad

Re: [expert] speaking of viruses

2002-06-03 Thread J. Craig Woods
engage wrote: chkrootkit displayed the following: Searching for suspicious files and dirs, it may take a while... /usr/lib/libDrakX/auto/Newt/.exists /usr/lib/libDrakX/auto/c/stuff/.exists /usr/lib/libDrakX/auto/resize_fat/c_rewritten/.exists /lib/aurora/default/.gtkrc