[expert] Increase of Capital?

2002-12-31 Thread Revenant
As someone who's never really looked into investment, how does this Increase of Capital thing work? Thanx. --- Revenant [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Theref

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital?

2002-12-31 Thread Paul Kaplan
Capital refers to cash or cash-like instruments. The message implies that M is having a problem meeting its cash requirements to keep the business operating...for example paying salaries and bills (electricity, phone service, etc.). They have essentially five options. 1. Reduce expenses (reduc

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital?

2002-12-31 Thread ET
the "Increase of Capital" I believe the question to be about, is a Mandrakesoft run stock purchase plan, allowing a much smaller investment than is customary in purchacing stock thru a broker. a normal stock purchace is a min. of 1000 shares, while the mandrake "increase of capital" program allo

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital?

2002-12-31 Thread Joe Braddock
on the market like any other shares. Joeb ---Original Message--- From: Revenant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 12/31/02 05:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Increase of Capital? > > As someone who's never really looked into investment, how does this Increase

[expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-23 Thread civileme
I have some good news and some urgent news 1. I will be returning to the lists. I will have an email address that can handle list level traffic. 2. All of you are desperately needed to complete the push to get Mandrakesoft on a self-sustaining level. For the second one, here is the real story

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-23 Thread Mark Belanger
On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 21:18, civileme wrote: > I have some good news and some urgent news > > 1. I will be returning to the lists. I will have an email address that > can handle list level traffic. > > 2. All of you are desperately needed to complete the push to get > Mandrakesoft on a self-su

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-23 Thread David Rankin
- From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 8:18 PM Subject: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft > I have some good news and some urgent news > > 1. I will be returning to the lists. I will have an email

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-23 Thread tarvid
WB. I just ordered a few boxes for resale and a request for warrants which is about what I can do for the immediate term. Near term, demand generation is probably the key. It's past time for a Mandrake 9.0 party. We keep an image on the LAN and we might snag a few folks to come in and get the

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-23 Thread Sridhar
Hi Civileme, Welcome back. I was wondering where you were. Merry Christmas to you. -Sridhar civileme wrote: I have some good news and some urgent news 1. I will be returning to the lists. I will have an email address that can handle list level traffic. 2. All of you are desperately needed

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-23 Thread Lorne
On Monday 23 December 2002 07:18 pm, civileme wrote: > I have some good news and some urgent news > > 1. I will be returning to the lists. I will have an email address that > can handle list level traffic. > Welcome back and happy holidays to you. Very sorry to hear you got laid off. For what it

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread James Sparenberg
Civilme... Welcome back... your advice has been missed but I must admit some like Todd have been a big help in fielding the really tough ones. As for MDK... Just wish 9.0 would make it to the stores before 9.1 comes out... Ok ... so it's not quite that bad... But I do own a boxed copy of every

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi Mate, I was wondering where you are ... This List isn't the same without you ... Regarding your Mail. I do agree that something needs to be done and I will do so. But as a developper, I do not like much Workarounds - as the main issue here are the Head People (Top Management) that screwed - a

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Monday 23 December 2002 09:18 pm, you wrote: > I have some good news and some urgent news > > 1. I will be returning to the lists. I will have an email address that > can handle list level traffic. Yeah, Civileme - you rock! :-) --

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread john
On Tuesday 24 Dec 2002 H:18 am, civileme wrote: > I have some good news and some urgent news > > 1. I will be returning to the lists. I will have an email address that > can handle list level traffic. > This is indeed a present to make it Christmas to remember, welcome back and a Merry Christm

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tuesday, December 24, 2002, at 04:49 AM, Joerg Mertin wrote: I was wondering where you are ... This List isn't the same without you ... Regarding your Mail. I do agree that something needs to be done and I will do so. But as a developper, I do not like much Workarounds - as the main issue

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread mike
On Tuesday 24 December 2002 02:21 pm, you wrote: > On Tuesday, December 24, 2002, at 04:49 AM, Joerg Mertin wrote: > > I was wondering where you are ... This List isn't the same without you > > ... > > Regarding your Mail. I do agree that something needs to be done and I > > will do so. But as a de

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tuesday, December 24, 2002, at 12:37 PM, mike wrote: [...] I don't think the "vampires" would respond as they have nothing to do with MandrakeSoft anymore. =) Mandrake is a great distribution and I hope it stays around.I believe an open source project should be a lean machine.I think Mand

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2002-12-24 at 12:53, Vincent Danen wrote: > I would also recommend that, despite some problems a few people have > had, people purchase their boxed sets of Mandrake from MandrakeStore. > We see a lot more revenue this way than if you go down the block to > whatever store you shop at an

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread mike
On Tuesday 24 December 2002 04:15 pm, you wrote: > On Tue, 2002-12-24 at 12:53, Vincent Danen wrote: > > I would also recommend that, despite some problems a few people have > > had, people purchase their boxed sets of Mandrake from MandrakeStore. > > We see a lot more revenue this way than if you

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2002-12-24 at 15:53, Vincent Danen wrote: > > On Tuesday, December 24, 2002, at 12:37 PM, mike wrote: > > [...] > >> I don't think the "vampires" would respond as they have nothing to do > >> with MandrakeSoft anymore. =) > > > > Mandrake is a great distribution and I hope it stays aroun

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread John Haywood
On Tuesday 24 December 2002 01:18 pm, civileme wrote: > I have some good news and some urgent news > > 1. I will be returning to the lists. I will have an email address that > can handle list level traffic. Welcome back - its great to see such loyalty, and expertise not going to waste :) > 2.

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread tarvid
Argh. Sign up for PayPal. Then get their debit card. Then you can either transfer money into the PayPal account or they can hot your bank account directly. It will take a few days (2 or 3) but it comes in handy at times like this. There are horror storeis about PayPal around the web but I have

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tuesday, December 24, 2002, at 03:22 PM, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: [...] And just what do you think we've been doing over the last few months? =) I'd say a lot of fat has been trimmed. The machine is *really* lean right now... thus the increase of capital. This is required for Mandrake to remain

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-24 Thread Bill Beauchemin
I too would hate to see a distro as good as Mandrake leave us. Being that im on disability (which dont pay much)it isnt easy to come up wit the funds but after chrstmas I will be upgrading my membership, purchasing a t-shirt (allways wanted one but never got around to it) and a boxed set. I've down

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-25 Thread John Haywood
On Wednesday 25 December 2002 11:31 am, tarvid wrote: PayPal, here I come. > Argh. > > Sign up for PayPal. Then get their debit card. > > Then you can either transfer money into the PayPal account or they can hot > your bank account directly. > > It will take a few days (2 or 3) but it comes

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-25 Thread mike
On Tuesday 24 December 2002 07:47 pm, you wrote: > On Wednesday 25 December 2002 11:31 am, tarvid wrote: > > PayPal, here I come. > > > Argh. > > > > Sign up for PayPal. Then get their debit card. > > > > Then you can either transfer money into the PayPal account or they can > > hot your bank a

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-25 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2002-12-24 at 12:53, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Tuesday, December 24, 2002, at 12:37 PM, mike wrote: > > [...] > >> I don't think the "vampires" would respond as they have nothing to do > >> with MandrakeSoft anymore. =) > > > > Mandrake is a great distribution and I hope it stays around.I

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-25 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2002-12-25 at 22:31, James Sparenberg wrote: > Some short comings in this statement > > First it ensures that the only people who can find out how to purchase > a boxes set are people who have in the past used MDK... That is exactly right. That is the context of this (Vincent's)

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-25 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wednesday, December 25, 2002, at 10:57 PM, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Some short comings in this statement First it ensures that the only people who can find out how to purchase a boxes set are people who have in the past used MDK... That is exactly right. That is the context of this (Vince

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2002-12-25 at 22:42, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Wednesday, December 25, 2002, at 10:57 PM, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > >> Some short comings in this statement > >> > >> First it ensures that the only people who can find out how to > >> purchase > >> a boxes set are people who have in the

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread Vincent Danen
On Thursday, December 26, 2002, at 01:15 AM, James Sparenberg wrote: [...] So while James made some very good points, they're pretty much irrelevant to the topic at hand which is, looking at the subject line, Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft, which is happening *now*... not next year. Hope

RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread Franki
e: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft On Thursday, December 26, 2002, at 01:15 AM, James Sparenberg wrote: [...] >> So while James made some very good points, they're pretty much >> irrelevant to the topic at hand which is, looking at the subject line, >> Inc

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread Jason Pearce
hi all, christmas has maxed out my cc but as soon as i make a payment i'll take out a silver membership long live mandrake!!! 9.0 has blown me away I used 8 for a long time up untill about a month ago and thought that was good but w 9.0 ROCKS can't wait for 10.0 jason Want to buy yo

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread J. Grant
No one has mentioned the share option yet, I'm taking this up, its less than market value and you might even get your money back. JG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread Mcleod, Ian
fussed about their financial health.. Shame really - I really like Mandrake! -Original Message- From: J. Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft No one has mentioned the

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread J. Grant
Hi Vincent, And I thank you for that, James. The issue at this instant in time, if we could freeze on today, is not new users; it's existing users that aren't doing their part (freeloaders if you will). Mandrake Linux is perhaps one of the most popular Linux distributions out there, but you'

RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread Mcleod, Ian
EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft Hi Vincent, > And I thank you for that, James. The issue at this instant in time, if > we could freeze on today, is not new users; it's existing users that > aren't doing their part (freeloaders if yo

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread Jack Coates
On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 17:39, J. Grant wrote: > > I don't know. Maybe we need to go with SuSE's model and allow a one ISO > > demo a few months after release to prevent people from doing this. > > Then again, who wants to see Mandrake become another SuSE? I think the > > fact that Mandrake d

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread J. Grant
2.27 €, but they are selling for 2.2 to us :) anyway i emailed them, they replied asking for my name, that was the last I have heard. perhaps the amount I wanted was not enough, but then asking users for support is never going to generate 300K €. JG Mcleod, Ian wrote: What are the Mandrake sha

RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread Mcleod, Ian
What's the share price history like? -Original Message- From: J. Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft 2.27 €, but they are selling for 2.2 to us :) anyway i em

RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread Jack Coates
IL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft > > > 2.27 ˆ, but they are selling for 2.2 to us :) > > anyway i emailed them, they replied asking for my name, that was the > last I have heard. perhaps the amount I wanted was not enough, but th

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Mcleod, Ian wrote: too right - I just gave up waiting around for Mandrake to make it easy for them to receive $$$ and just stuck with the download version - because by the time it finally arrives in Australia it's probably out of date anyway. And I never received a reply to my 15 or so emails reg

RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread Mcleod, Ian
3 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft Mcleod, Ian wrote: > too right - I just gave up waiting around for Mandrake to make it easy for > them to receive $$$ and just stuck with the download version - because by > the time it finally arrives in A

RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread Franki
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mcleod, Ian Sent: Friday, 27 December 2002 9:43 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft too right - I just gave up waiting around for Mandrake to make it easy for them to receive $$$ and

RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread Franki
emails.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. Grant Sent: Friday, 27 December 2002 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft 2.27 €, but they are selling for 2.2 to us :) anyway

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 10:55, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Thursday, December 26, 2002, at 01:15 AM, James Sparenberg wrote: > > [...] > >> So while James made some very good points, they're pretty much > >> irrelevant to the topic at hand which is, looking at the subject line, > >> Increase of Capita

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-26 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 14:13 +0800, Franki wrote: > > If people write in asking questions that will lead to mandrake > making money.. you'd think it should be a priority for them to > answer wouldn't you??? anything with queries about shareprices or > problems with mandrakestore etc should have p

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-27 Thread Ron Stodden
Jack Coates wrote: I really think they need to improve the icon set, I'm sure that a flashier default icon set would improve cash flow by 14.6562144% in the first three months (not including February in this analysis) :-) I think Mandrake's popularity, and so its income, would be improved if t

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-27 Thread ET
> Oh I do get the point I'm just trying to extend it. BTW went to a local > Fry's today (for those who don't know it's an electronics supermarket in > California and Texas) They had 30 boxes of RH left and 15 SuSe. The > gal working the software section said they got 75 roughly of each ... > an

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-27 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 07:17 -0500, ET wrote: > Name regognition would be my bet. I am still pushing for a sticker to replace > my old rainbow bitten apple logo on my RX3 mazda. heck I would print them if > I had a good logo that I thought might get attention. anyone with any Ideas > can e-mail

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-27 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 13:29 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > I'm wearing my Mandrake cap most times and there's a Mandrake penguin > on my letter box. Of course my notebook brandishes a large penguin > sticker and if I'd own a car I would have a fake license plate in the > rear window "MDK TUX" o

RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-27 Thread Franki
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Bornath Sent: Friday, 27 December 2002 8:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 07:17 -0500, ET wrote: > Name regognition would be my bet. I am still pushing for a sticker

RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-27 Thread Udo Rader
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:41:52 +, Franki wrote: > See that might be one of the problems... > > Mandrake need to think globally, not french.. > > Whats the biggest market for mandrake? I doubt its french... > > The number one rule that explains the M$ saga is targeted marketing.. > > They kno

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-27 Thread ET
> I suggest a mass mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] expressing wishes > for the stickers they once included in the boxed sets (I still have > some!) and other goodies like that. > > wobo really. why not to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] lol (I sent a mail) Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mand

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-27 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 12:53 -0500, ET wrote: > > > > I suggest a mass mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] expressing wishes > > for the stickers they once included in the boxed sets (I still have > > some!) and other goodies like that. > > > > wobo > really. why not to "[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > lol

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-27 Thread ET
> > lol > > > > (I sent a mail) > > If you expected a reply (I guess you did because you don't seem to > take that as a real option), then you did not read the text in the > contact page: > > "Don't expect an answer but all mails are read." > > And I know for sure that they do! > > wobo I got

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-27 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 17:37 -0500, ET wrote: > > > I got a bounce at that address > Sorry, but the correct address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or

Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft

2002-12-28 Thread ET
On Friday 27 December 2002 09:41 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 17:37 -0500, ET wrote: > > I got a bounce at that address > > Sorry, but the correct address is > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wobo thanks, I re-mailed them... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?