Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-07 Thread Michael Holt
Wednesday, civileme mused: > The employer was too cheap to give me a separate workstation, so it was my six > years of work that was lost. For the same reason, it was risky to try > restoring from tape though I had always done one file a month. Anyway, the > tapes were stretched and dirty and

RE: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-06 Thread James Sparenberg
Actually they are meant for shipping drums (as in rock band) that we got from a garage sale. Used some shipping foam from a case of HDD's we bought (it holds HDD's individually and gives me slots I can label.) It's a real cludge but it works. We also use One of those fire and water proof "safes"

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-06 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
I will beat on tape for backup. MY tape drive faithfully backed up once a week and I rotated 6 tapes to stay current. (MAC fileserver 80). Then one day I arrived at work to find the fileserver unresponsive. I eventually powered down and found the disk would not boot and enough of it was co

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-06 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
Brian Schroeder wrote: From: Luca Olivetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You just scared me to death. I had no problem reding the tapes to restore some files from time to time (when a user deleted them by mistake), but I guess murphy's law applies here: in case of disaster the tape won't be readable

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-06 Thread Jack Coates
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 00:48, James Sparenberg wrote: ... > > I use and recommend to those who ask for an honest opinion the Linus > > Torvalds backup strategy: "Real men upload their important data to FTP > > servers and let the world download it." That doesn't mean to upload your > > corporate dat

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 8:50 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 17:28, Robert Barry wrote: > > I'm a CPA in my real life and I decided to go with > > removable hard drives for our office network. > > > > I just setup a mandrake server and use samba to backup > > up the NT fileserve

RE: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-06 Thread Robert Wideman
>>If I might add. If you use cases (and it's a good idea) make sure >> that they are fire and water proof... I just had some survers go under >> water and the backups survived because the cases where water tight. What kind of cases are you using? Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 17:28, Robert Barry wrote: > I'm a CPA in my real life and I decided to go with > removable hard drives for our office network. > > I just setup a mandrake server and use samba to backup > up the NT fileserver right on to the removable hard > drive. I have a set of shell s

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 12:00, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 19:08 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > Talking of which - do you know any site with information on the different > > grades of media, with regard to lifespan. I'm careful with storage, but I'm > > aware that the med

RE: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-06 Thread Robert Wideman
So true. This is coming from when i did Server Support for Dell. Rob >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Schroeder >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 4:33 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >&

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:16, Jack Coates wrote: > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:00, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 9:48 pm, Luca Olivetti wrote: > > > civileme wrote: > > > > Then one day I arrived at work to find the fileserver unresponsive. I > > > > eventually powered down and found

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-06 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:32, Brian Schroeder wrote: > >From: Luca Olivetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >You just scared me to death. > >I had no problem reding the tapes to restore some files from time to time > >(when a user deleted them by mistake), but I guess murphy's law applies > >here: in case o

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread Robert Barry
I'm a CPA in my real life and I decided to go with removable hard drives for our office network. I just setup a mandrake server and use samba to backup up the NT fileserver right on to the removable hard drive. I have a set of shell scripts that mount the NT fileserver directories and cron runs

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread Bryan Whitehead
[cnip] I will beat on tape for backup. MY tape drive faithfully backed up once a week and I rotated 6 tapes to stay current. (MAC fileserver 80). This is how all "tape backup sucks" stories start. Then one day I arrived at work to find the fileserver unresponsive. I eventually powered dow

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 10:39 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > Yet in spite of all that, I still could not bring myself to trust a system > that rejected its own tapes with such regularity. > I would just add that no-one laughed or complained again at my paranoid backup strategy. Anne -- Registered Lin

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 10:16 pm, Jack Coates wrote: > After using and selling "Enterprise" IT products and services for nearly > ten years, I do not trust any backup solution as far as I can throw the > media. They all more or less suck, and exist purely to give a false > sense of security and "

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread Brian Schroeder
From: Luca Olivetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You just scared me to death. I had no problem reding the tapes to restore some files from time to time (when a user deleted them by mistake), but I guess murphy's law applies here: in case of disaster the tape won't be readable :-( Absolutely! That's the

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:00, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 9:48 pm, Luca Olivetti wrote: > > civileme wrote: > > > Then one day I arrived at work to find the fileserver unresponsive. I > > > eventually powered down and found the disk would not boot and enough of > > > it was corrup

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread Luca Olivetti
Anne Wilson wrote: That's what the verify feature of your backup program is there for. It take twice the time and it'll probably cause more wear and tear on the tape but at least you'll know the tape is readable. 'Fraid not. I was running backup with full verify, but it still didn't stop the

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 9:48 pm, Luca Olivetti wrote: > civileme wrote: > > Then one day I arrived at work to find the fileserver unresponsive. I > > eventually powered down and found the disk would not boot and enough of > > it was corrupted to make the rest inaccessible. OK no problem, data is

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread Luca Olivetti
civileme wrote: Then one day I arrived at work to find the fileserver unresponsive. I eventually powered down and found the disk would not boot and enough of it was corrupted to make the rest inaccessible. OK no problem, data is on tapes, let's reload OS--- done reach for tape Oops--tape

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 19:08 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > > Talking of which - do you know any site with information on the different > grades of media, with regard to lifespan. I'm careful with storage, but I'm > aware that the media I'm using are not really suitable for longer storage. I >

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 5:17 pm, civileme wrote: > I will beat on tape for backup. MY tape drive faithfully backed up once a > week and I rotated 6 tapes to stay current. (MAC fileserver 80). > > Then one day I arrived at work to find the fileserver unresponsive. I > eventually powered down and

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread civileme
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 05:11 am, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: > civileme wrote: > > Well google around and you can find scdbackup which is oriented toward > > 650Mb > > disks. And I have tested it to work on 9.0 with supermount disabled, > > and a > > $25.95(US) CDRW drive which is rated 4x4x24 Ev

RE: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread Robert Wideman
gt;> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tibbetts, Ric >> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:11 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [expert] drakbackup >> >> >> civileme wrote: >> > Well google around and you can find scdbackup which is oriented

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-05 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
civileme wrote: Well google around and you can find scdbackup which is oriented toward 650Mb disks. And I have tested it to work on 9.0 with supermount disabled, and a $25.95(US) CDRW drive which is rated 4x4x24 Even with that, the drive barfs on CDRW media, even for blanking, with 9.0 DO NO

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-03 Thread Michael Holt
9:07pm, civileme mused: > Umm, I just moved the Acer Drive to my son's computer (he uses the > unmentionable system in its latest incarnation) and it behaves the > same--choking on CDRW disks, so I imagine it is unresolved hardware issues > with the druive hardware and the brand of media (one s

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-03 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 22:07, civileme wrote: > On Monday 03 February 2003 07:28 pm, Michael Holt wrote: > > 5:42pm, civileme mused: > > > Well google around and you can find scdbackup which is oriented toward > > > 650Mb disks. And I have tested it to work on 9.0 with supermount > > > disabled, an

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-03 Thread civileme
On Monday 03 February 2003 07:28 pm, Michael Holt wrote: > 5:42pm, civileme mused: > > Well google around and you can find scdbackup which is oriented toward > > 650Mb disks. And I have tested it to work on 9.0 with supermount > > disabled, and a $25.95(US) CDRW drive which is rated 4x4x24 Even w

Re: [expert] drakbackup

2003-02-03 Thread Michael Holt
5:42pm, civileme mused: > Well google around and you can find scdbackup which is oriented toward 650Mb > disks. And I have tested it to work on 9.0 with supermount disabled, and a > $25.95(US) CDRW drive which is rated 4x4x24 Even with that, the drive barfs > on CDRW media, even for blanking,

[expert] drakbackup

2003-02-03 Thread civileme
Well google around and you can find scdbackup which is oriented toward 650Mb disks. And I have tested it to work on 9.0 with supermount disabled, and a $25.95(US) CDRW drive which is rated 4x4x24 Even with that, the drive barfs on CDRW media, even for blanking, with 9.0 DO NOT USE CDRW media

[expert] drakbackup

2003-02-03 Thread Michael Holt
Hey all, I've been trying to use drakbackup with both cdr's and rw's but I get "FATAL: Does not appear to be recordable media!" with both. I'm able to burn a disk with cdrecord - just drakbackup fails. Any suggestions? Thanks! Mike -- Michael Holt Banning, CA