[FairfieldLife] Re: TM: bliss v. ecstacy

2005-04-05 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mark robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, easyone200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, The God-Like pedestal you put Maharishi on, while at the same time making him an impotent prisoner in his own

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Tuesday - See It

2005-04-05 Thread The Daily Inspiration
Title: Template April 05, 2005 - See It Do you suffer from anxiety? There is a wrong way and a right way to handle it. The wrong way is to simply relieve its pressure. This is what people do when

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quotes to Wake Up To: Avyakta

2005-04-05 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fr. the Avyakta Upanishad (trans. Lal): Nothing. Nothing at first. Neither sky. Nor Air. Nor earth. Then Light. Formless. Neither beginning nor ending. Indistinct. Neither small nor large. Knowing. Blissful.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM: bliss v. ecstacy

2005-04-05 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: Why support investigation of a brain-damaging drug, when a safe and effective approach is already available?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:55 PM, wayback71 wrote: I never knew Vasant Ladd had been connected with the TMO. What happened? I saw him about 16 years ago. Excellent doctor and fine person. He was to be the one for Ayurveda.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 7:07 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: Chopra is such a public figure, who would still be just another M.D. in Boston if MMY had not given him the knowledge of Ayurveda and other Vedic knowledge So you actually believe that Chopra was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Polar Dreams

2005-04-05 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hot off the presses: Polar Dreams is going shutting down. Employed about 35 people

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread Vaj
On Apr 5, 2005, at 8:45 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Isn't interesting how the TMO wants to enslave everyone that has value for them? It is interesting but also very sad. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, well, we differ a bit. I have to line devas up like this, from one-fourteen Siva-Sun Shakti-Moon Agni-Mars Saraswati-Mercury Kalagni Rudra-Jupiter Kartekeya-Venus Mahalakshmi-Saturn Ganesha-Rahu

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM: bliss v. ecstacy

2005-04-05 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: Why support investigation of a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Polar Dreams

2005-04-05 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael is building on the next lot north of me here in the county so I could ask him? N. For God's sake don't ask him from your southern position so he'll

[FairfieldLife] Shamans Driving through the City

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
The shaman. Quite a figure, generally an outcast who nonetheless is held with mystical esteem. The shaman usually is a healer. The healer doesn't turn the healing sense of self on and off. This is a person who has had to try and test every means of healing and know first hand on the pulse of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
Beautiful. Now we're in agreement. - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
It is interesting but also very sad.-It is very interesting. Is it enslaving? There's a good bit of choice involved. Much of it is moral choice. MMY appeals to peoples moral choices, as any religious figure does. My guess is that many of these, so called, slaves are would be just as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM: bliss v. ecstacy

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
At least one ayurvedic MD in FF prescribes antidepressants. Myimpression is that they're no longer strictly taboo on campus. yeah, and that stabbing should have been the end of the discussion. Sometimes drugs work where people can't. There are conditions which necessitate some

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
Oh and then they slapped the name "Maharishi" on front of it.It's business and a money making scheme. It has nothing to do with "purity of the tradition" or rescuing Ayuved.Ayur-greed. yeah, that was my complaint too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM: bliss v. ecstacy

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
Yep, or they have already been going on ;) - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM: bliss v. ecstacy --- rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Trunkle

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
Anyone ever heard this word before? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To

RE: [FairfieldLife] Shamans Driving through the City

2005-04-05 Thread mark robert
The shaman. Quite a figure, generally an outcast who nonetheless is held with mystical esteem. The shaman usually is a healer. The healer doesn't turn the healing sense of self on and off. This is a person who has had to try and test every means of healing and know first hand on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread Rory Goff
Oh, yes, and of course you were right, if it matters -- I am indeed a black magician, the very blackest. If you like, I am both Satan and God, prideful coal-black hateful ignorance and lovingly humble emptiful enlightenment, and the full spectrum in between, and none of the above. I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trunkle

2005-04-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone ever heard this word before? I left it in the trunkle of my carrul. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread crukstrom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I look back at the Movement I see myself and my desires, not really much more than that. Oh yeah baby, the smoke clears and what do we see? Yaw cookin wit gas now, sucka! To subscribe, send a message to:

[FairfieldLife] The Fourth Day Of Mother Divine

2005-04-05 Thread jim_flanegin
Wrote this last year, and wanted to share it as we approach the nine days of Mother Divine, beginning April 9th: The Fourth Day of Mother Divine A warmth in my soul, opening like an eye over the world, Did I give birth to my Self overnight? In a dream, which is the dream? A roan mare runs

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
That's pretty good! - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up Oh, yes, and of course you were right, if

Re: [FairfieldLife] Shamans Driving through the City

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
Ancient shamans would have killed for some of our music and sound equipment. --Oh Yeah! Modern man has little notion of what is possible through a combination of his own nervous system, specific pharmacology, and specific technology,-...And a hefty dose of reality.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Fourth Day Of Mother Divine

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
Is today the fourth day? That was cool. Do you own a roan mare? - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Fourth Day Of Mother Divine Wrote this last year,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread jim_flanegin
Oh No! Not George Bush! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, yes, and of course you were right, if it matters -- I am indeed a black magician, the very blackest. If you like, I am both Satan and God, prideful coal-black hateful ignorance and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shamans Driving through the City

2005-04-05 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mark robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The shaman. Quite a figure, generally an outcast who nonetheless is held with mystical esteem. The shaman usually is a healer. The healer doesn't turn the healing sense of self on and off. This is a person who

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Fourth Day Of Mother Divine

2005-04-05 Thread jim_flanegin
Yes, OK, Sure. Glad you enjoyed it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is today the fourth day? That was cool. Do you own a roan mare? - Original Message - To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's pretty good! I and I see eye to eye :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rectification Course in VC

2005-04-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/5/05 11:33 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It began yesterday. Any sign of 550 arriving? Or is it a much smaller number that actually showed up? Someone told me they've been seeing a few old friends around town who've come for the course. I don't know how many actually showed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As long as the TMO keeps up their end of the bargain everything will be fine. Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fourth Day Of Mother Divine

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
So, today is the fourth day, because I was inexplicably drawn to my 4 mukhis today. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fourth Day Of Mother Divine

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shamans Driving through the City

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
Great Quote. Is the book about plants specifically? I want it. Oh cool. Nice book. Thanks. - Original Message - From: markmeredith2002 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shamans Driving

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh No! Not George Bush! *lol* Deny any of my children and you deny me; that is, you deny yourself. What, you don't like Our movie? Isn't he playing his part to absolute perfection? :-) To subscribe, send a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Rectification Course in VC

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
RJ pronunces an auspicious time right now. Best to get yer yajnas done while they're still cheap. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rectification

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Twinkies and Root Beer

2005-04-05 Thread jim_flanegin
A little boy wanted to meet God. He knew it was a long trip to where God lived, so he packed his suitcase with Twinkies and a six-pack of Root Beer and he started his journey. When he had gone about three blocks, he met an elderly man. The man was sitting in the park just feeding some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen When I started teaching TM in 1973, National always sent the correct percentage back and the correct percentage into my ATR account. That lasted for a few years until someone sucked the ATR credit account dry. -Peter Well, for the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/5/05 12:05 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up their end of the bargain? L B S When I started teaching TM in 1973, National always sent the correct percentage back

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/5/05 12:48 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: until someone sucked the ATR credit account dry. -Peter That someone was MMY. He ordered it. Rick, do you know that for sure? I know Jerry Jarvis was really furious about it. Remember the letter they sent...It is such a joy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread akasha_108
Yes, I understand Peter. As long as you continue to comparmentalize wholeness into little domains, and feel the need to keep tracking all your different dharmas blazing in your mind, you will continue to feel the need to play dharma cop -- and to continue to cite people for your own internal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread wayback71
My understanding of that event is exactly as Rick reports it - that MMY ordered the draining of ATR accounts, Jerry was upset, and that was the reason Jerry was no longer welcome in the TMO - he had expressed - in front of MMY - his reservations about taking earned ATR points away from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/5/05 1:10 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding of that event is exactly as Rick reports it - that MMY ordered the draining of ATR accounts, Jerry was upset, and that was the reason Jerry was no longer welcome in the TMO - he had expressed - in front of MMY -

[FairfieldLife] Amma's N. American Summer Tour

2005-04-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Amma's N. American Summer Tour http://amma.org/tours/amma-tours/n_america.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go

[FairfieldLife] Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-05 Thread akasha_108
To be a bit more specific Peter, your dharma cop role assumes most people are fools. It assumes all people are like woody allen's satire / characture of himself as a kid in Annie Hall. As you remember, the young 10 year old is brought to the psychiatrist by his mother because Alvie won't do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
n FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Oh No! Not George Bush!*lol* Deny any of my children and you deny me; that is, you deny yourself. What, you don't like Our movie? Isn't he playing his part to absolute perfection? :-) --He's a bit dumb so he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Twinkies and Root Beer

2005-04-05 Thread jim_flanegin
This was forwarded to me by a friend. I liked the koan nature of the story. Lots of simple messages there. I am sorry, my forte is not analyzing these things. Hurts my head. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The twinkies and root beer thing is somewhat

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rectification Course in VC

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
Wow, you mean it took this far fetched anouncement to get a course going? That's really sad. At this moment, I want to say that I love Maharishi, and I'm sad that it's his time to go. I'll miss you MMY, I swear it, I will. I hope your message that even the common person can be a king in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-05 Thread Peter Sutphen
Thank you for setting me straight. I feel much better. -Peter --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be a bit more specific Peter, your dharma cop role assumes most people are fools. It assumes all people are like woody allen's satire / characture of himself as a kid in Annie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-05 Thread akasha_108
Great. Glad to hear it. And now the world won't be burdened anymore with nonesense admonitions about dharmas when there are references to similtaneous multiple levels of understnding about soemthing. Its a great day of celebration. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Paul Mason
'The initiation took place in front of a picture of Guru Dev and I was told that I should consider neither my initiator nor Maharishi Mahesh Yogi as my spiritual teacher but the Guru Dev himself.' - Dinesh Khare [from his introduction to 'Strange Facts About A Great Saint' - a biography of His

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rectification Course in VC

2005-04-05 Thread akasha_108
When MMY began to make use teachers, the first step was to make us Knowers of Reality. Then he made us Exponents of Reality. With the rectification course begining, we are no longer qualified Exponents of Reality. Does it then follow that we are also no longer Knowers of Reality? To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
the road to hell ---you said it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
Darkness unfolds like a fractal, and guess what a fractal unfolds like? The original ogmin of darkness itself sparked a fight through ignorance and caused a mirror to reflect a glowing spark. tell me your original ogmin and I'll tell you - Original Message - From:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread rudra_joe
Maharishi to me is todays headlines of fanatics. You can read em all in his words. I thank him for it. - Original Message - From: Paul Mason To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Paul Mason,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'The initiation took place in front of a picture of Guru Dev and I was told that I should consider neither my initiator nor Maharishi Mahesh Yogi as my spiritual teacher but the Guru Dev himself.' - Dinesh Khare

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/5/05 4:16 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real reason why little difference (to date) is found between the behavior of meditators and non-meditators is that the early adopters of TM have been disproportionately crackpot, which is just the nature of early adopters of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Gradually I am coming to realise that he now seems to speak an entirely different language, a language I cannot respect, a voice against democracy. snip FWIW.. you're not the only one to first have raised on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/5/05 4:16 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real reason why little difference (to date) is found between the behavior of meditators and non-meditators is that the early adopters of TM have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-05 Thread Peter Sutphen
Don't start the celebrations too early. The point still holds: if you talk about something with no experiential context, the conversation is meaningless beyond entertainment. -Peter --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great. Glad to hear it. And now the world won't be burdened

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Twinkies and Root Beer

2005-04-05 Thread jim_flanegin
sounds illiterate to me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, in the future, im a previous lit. student so use fucking quotation marks or somethin. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-05 Thread akasha_108
The celebration began a long time ago, unbeknownst to some beefed-up arrogant bouncers patrolling the rope line -- as people walk, happily and laughing -- through the open back door. How many have had an experience of no-doer? Wow. Almost everyone. (Peter faints --- the shock of it all. )

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread anonymousff
Bob, you can on mentioning TM as what is sound as the best technique on earth or very close to it. Correct me if I'm wrong. surely you know that are other technique that preceded TM and MMY that also use meditation at their basis. Would you humour me and clear why do you see TM technique as the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Vaj
On Apr 5, 2005, at 5:36 PM, Paul Mason wrote: 'The initiation took place in front of a picture of Guru Dev and I was told that I should consider neither my initiator nor Maharishi Mahesh Yogi as my spiritual teacher but the Guru Dev himself.' - Dinesh Khare [from his introduction to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rectification Course in VC

2005-04-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lots of white faces, grey hair and creme colored suits and saris, but on the whole everyone looked good and peaceful. any names some of us might know? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread Rory Goff
Yes, actually I just meant he is a non-existent radiant reflection of our blissful Self; all that we see him (and everything else) to be -- on closer look turns out to be our own movies, our own stories, we're happily throwing onto him...:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Digest Number 2606

2005-04-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
I think he is--I've heard him practicing a few times from his house. I wondered what was going on. Sal On Apr 5, 2005, at 3:21 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I was told Tim Britton is being taken out every day to bagpipe for the rajas as they arrive at the tent though I don't know for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I will let others comment on your history, my reference to Brahman was incidental to my main point. I will rephrase it, where in the Universe is the problem. Just curious, with so many references to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Bobananda is displeased with your lack of obeisance...stand under a tree during the next thunderstorm... Dude, you are beginning to display a downright sense of humor. I mean, I remember when it seemed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you count yourself among the early adopters, Bob, or are you somehow an exception to your own generality? *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread m2smart4u2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Bobananda is displeased with your lack of obeisance...stand under a tree during the next thunderstorm...

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM: bliss v. ecstacy

2005-04-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
Bob, Do you have any real idea of what you're talking about? What kind of personal experience do you have with anti-depressants? Just because something can be overprescribed doesn't mean it doesn't have considerable value for many who get the correct dosage. And just because someone flips out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you count yourself among the early adopters, Bob, or are you somehow an exception to your own generality? ***

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread jim_flanegin
Hi, With all due respect, something about your statement is confusing to me. If in fact Guru Dev's intent is to bring about the Sat Yuga, Age of Enlightenment, etc. (which I believe that it is, because nuclear annihilation remains the only other option), I don't understand why He would

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM: bliss v. ecstacy

2005-04-05 Thread wayback71
Here is a little a bit of info re antidepressants: There is DNA testing for a gene encoding enzyme called CYP2D6*2. It is a genotype whose activity is affected by certain drugs. Prozac (and the SSRI's, I believe) is a drug that decreases [EMAIL PROTECTED] activity. This means that if

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Vaj
On Apr 5, 2005, at 8:39 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: If in fact Guru Dev's intent is to bring about the Sat Yuga, Age of Enlightenment, etc. Are there really any quotes or anything to back up that he really thought this? I keep in mind that Brahmananda Saraswati is the living Divinity, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread jim_flanegin
Agreed, however the Gita speaks of the absolute Being, though remaining neutral always supports righteousness. Also, the Gita says that whenever evil arises and threatens to overtake life, a wave of righteousness rises to neutralize the evil. So, I just wish he [Bush] would wake up and go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread jim_flanegin
All right. Out of curiousity where do you think the planet Earth is headed? I can only think of three possibilities: 1. Status quo 2. Up 3. Boom --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 5, 2005, at 8:39 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: If in fact Guru Dev's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, you can on mentioning TM as what is sound as the best technique on earth or very close to it. Correct me if I'm wrong. surely you know that are other technique that preceded TM and MMY that also use

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Bobananda is displeased with your lack of obeisance...stand under a tree during the next thunderstorm... Dude,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Maharishi said at Seelisberg Maharishi said (1979):Only a ridiculous movement can survive. Otherwise our adversaries would destroy us to the last extent. The time will come, where I will show my real face. Go ahead and do your work !

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-05 Thread Peter Sutphen
I'm not the hall monitor. You have cast me in that role. It is a reflection of a need you have to relate to me this way. But you'll never acknowledge that in the slightest. -Peter --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The celebration began a long time ago, unbeknownst to some beefed-up

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Recertification Course

2005-04-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/5/05 4:45 PM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, easyone200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going if they will take the thousands of ATR credits stolen as payment! That was the beginning of the movement shakedown routine. How

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked Punditji and he said he is the course. Go figure. -Peter --- rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS. I wonder if Deepak and Punditji are planning on going ? JohnY ---Thank you. ( Great

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/5/05 12:05 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up their end of the bargain? L B S When I started teaching TM in 1973, National always sent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, however the Gita speaks of the absolute Being, though remaining neutral always supports righteousness. Also, the Gita says that whenever evil arises and threatens to overtake life, a wave of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline

2005-04-05 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/5/05 1:10 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding of that event is exactly as Rick reports it - that MMY ordered the draining of ATR accounts, Jerry was upset, and that was the reason

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/5/05 8:10 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Maharishi said at Seelisberg Maharishi said (1979):Only a ridiculous movement can survive. Otherwise our adversaries would destroy us to the last extent. The time will come,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rectification Course in VC

2005-04-05 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When MMY began to make use teachers, the first step was to make us Knowers of Reality. Then he made us Exponents of Reality. With the rectification course begining, we are no longer qualified Exponents of Reality.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread jim_flanegin
That I can live with! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, however the Gita speaks of the absolute Being, though remaining neutral always supports righteousness.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some important things in life, but really, nothing is serious when you consider that the origin and goal of life are the same, making life just a game of hide and seek. MMY has said that serious

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Maharishi said at Seelisberg Maharishi said (1979):Only a ridiculous movement can survive. Otherwise our adversaries would destroy us to the last extent. The time will come, where I will show my real face. snip Krishna complex. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha: Givin' it up

2005-04-05 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That I can live with! Love that flexible mind, Jim! :-) For the future, here's maybe another clearer way to take a look at the whole thing (with thanks to Byron Katie): Generally, any feeling of stress or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness-John Danforth Warning

2005-04-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
So, I just wish he [Bush] would wake up and go home. Okay, John Danforth, former U.S. Senator, Presbyterian Minister, Individual with total credibility in Washington: Goes public with warning that Republican party is becoming sound piece and extension of Christian right.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Maharishi said at Seelisberg Maharishi said (1979):Only a ridiculous movement can survive. Otherwise our adversaries would destroy us to the last

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Maharishi said at Seelisberg Maharishi said (1979):Only a ridiculous movement can survive. Otherwise our adversaries would destroy us to the last

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-05 Thread crukstrom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't start the celebrations too early. The point still holds: if you talk about something with no experiential context, the conversation is meaningless beyond entertainment. -Peter But, dont we all have the

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM The TMO

2005-04-05 Thread Don
crukstrom wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) ... Gradually I am coming to realise that he now seems to speak an entirely different language, a language I cannot respect, a voice against democracy. Thus I review the criticisms of