[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 6, 2006, at 5:49 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 6, 2006, at 5:26 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > > > > I think it's the whole shebang, a complete package...don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > First, What is your definition of insanity.?? It would be complex, because insanity is a complex subject, but I'm pretty sure that one aspect of it would include defining as insane people who give themselves th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > on 4/6/06 4:12 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: > > > > > > > What exactly is Disk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > In a message dated 4/6/06 4:14:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > shempmcgurk@ writes: > > > > > What exactly is Diskha and why is it important enough > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > wrote: > > > > First, What is your definition of insanity.?? > > It would be complex, because insanity is a complex > subject, but I'm pretty sure that one asp

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 6, 2006, at 5:15 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 6, 2006, at 4:47 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > > > It's all almost as silly as naming some 5-year-old peasant

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes

2006-04-07 Thread Vaj
On Apr 7, 2006, at 8:00 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > Or, much better, read: "The Fourteen Dalai Lamas: A > Sacred Legacy of Reincarnation," by Dalai Lama XIV, > Glenn H. Mullin, and Valerie Shepherd. > > This book lists the historical "tests" that were > performed to verify that the kid named as the r

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread klakke57
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > on 4/6/06 4:12 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: > > > > > What exactly is Diskha Diksha is

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, klakke57 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > on 4/6/06 4:12 PM, shempmc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread steven klayman
Here is the official Movement statement on Diksha and anyone who is teaching it. > > ³Maharishi¹s Movement does not endorse in any way any techniques or programs > other than those taught by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and anyone > who is suggesting otherwise is misleading the people.

[FairfieldLife] The Deity in the Data

2006-04-07 Thread Vaj
human natureThe Deity in the DataWhat the latest prayer study tells us about God.By William SaletanPosted Thursday, April 6, 2006, at 2:37 AM ETBrother, have you heard the bad news?It was supposed to be good news, like the kind in the Bible. After three years, $2.4 million, and 1.7 million prayer

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > > wrote: > > > > > > First, What is your definition of insanity.?? > > > > It would be complex,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The fact is many people in the movement are receiving > deeksha because it gives direct experience of the > Divine, is not a path or a spiritual technique, has no > teachings, no scriptures to read nor is obedience

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And here is the behind the scenes reality of the > Movement on Deeksha. > > Jacque, the former National Leader of Holland went to > MMY and told him he had received deeksha, wanted to go > to India and be initiated

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fact is many people in the movement are receiving > deeksha because it gives direct experience of the > Divine, is not a path or a spiritual technique, has no > teachings, no scriptures to read nor is obedience

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread Vaj
On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I don't > consider that insane. My main problem here is that MMY is still > giving out aristocratic titles and positions of authority to people > based on their financial contribu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/06 11:51 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [...] >> No organization connected with TM has ever done anything geared >> toward improving the financial well being of anyone other than >> themselves. What makes

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > > > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I don't > > consider that insane. My main problem here is that MMY is still > > giving out aristocratic

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > > > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I don't > > consider that insane. My main problem here is that MMY is still > > givi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/6/06 11:51 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > [...] > >> No organization connected with TM has ever done anything geared > >> toward improving

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 9:54 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> on 4/6/06 11:51 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" >>> [...] No organizati

[FairfieldLife] Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Total Knowledge of Natural Law, bestowed by His > > Master Guru Dev, and offered > > in its purity by Governors of the Age of > > Enlightenment without any mixing of > > any unknown things. > > Didn't he mean

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > on 4/6/06 12:01 AM, Ingegerd at marwincornyarmand@ wrote: > > > >> > > >

[FairfieldLife] re: deeksha

2006-04-07 Thread steven klayman
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:06:32 - From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Digest Number 4658 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fact is many people in the movement are receiving > deeksha because it gives direct experience of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Here is the official Movement statement on Diksha and > anyone who is teaching it. > > > > ³Maharishi¹s Movement does not endorse in any way > any techniques > or programs > > other than those taught by His

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > > > wrote: > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool > wrote: > > > > > Total Knowledge of Natural Law, bestowed by His > > > Master Guru Dev, and offered > > > in its purity by Governors of the Age of > > > Enlightenme

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > > > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I don't > > consider that insane. My main problem here is that MMY is still > > giving out aristocra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > wrote: > > > > The fact is many people in the movement are receiving > > deeksha because it gives direct experience of the > > Divine, is not a path or a spiritua

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > wrote: > > > And here is the behind the scenes reality of the > > Movement on Deeksha. > > > > Jacque, the former National Leader of Holland went to > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: deeksha

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:06:32 - >From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 4658 > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > > wrote: > > > The fact is many pe

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > > > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I don't > > consider that insane. My main problem here is that MMY is still > > giving out aristocr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Official Movement Statement on Diksha

2006-04-07 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool > > wrote: > > > > > > > Total Knowledge of Natural Law, bestowed by His > > > > Master Guru Dev, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/6/06 11:51 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > [...] > >> No organization connected with TM has ever done anything geared > >> toward improvin

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's all been done before - think buying Indulgences. Was > that before or after the Inquisition? The practice of 'buying indulgences' was long before the Inquisition. The Cathars formed their sect in reaction

[FairfieldLife] Re: deeksha

2006-04-07 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:06:32 - >From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 4658 > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > > wrote: > > > The fact is many peo

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > > > > > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I > don't > > > consider that insane.

[FairfieldLife] Re: deeksha

2006-04-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now i understand what they were saying. (Taste the > strawberry, dont talk about it). The Divine > Intelligence is supremely intelligent so each person > starts to wake up in their own way based on their own > physi

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > It's all been done before - think buying Indulgences. Was > > that before or after the Inquisition? > > The practice of 'buying indulgences' was

[FairfieldLife] Re: deeksha

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sounds very nice .. but I detect a few caveats are in order. Quite a few, actually. > One is that Divine Intelligence (DI) isn't looking to flow just > through people who have completed the official 21 day

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > > wrote: > > > > > > The fact is many people in the movement are receiving > > > deeksha because i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 10:33 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> You mean about the $millions$ that have been skimmed by Maharishi's > nephews >> running the Indian TMO, to build their fancy mansions, buy their > fancy cars, >> and finance their wild all-night parties? >> > > Is that what they do?

[FairfieldLife] Re: deeksha

2006-04-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not to complain but to explain from another perspective, > Steve's description above is how this phenomenon is > viewed by and presented by one particular group. But > it's a very common phenomenon in the spiritual smor

[FairfieldLife] TM on CBS

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: TM on CBS There will be a 10 minute segment on the TM program and Fairfield/Maharishi Vedic City on CBS Sunday Morning this coming Sunday, April 9th. Featured in the piece will be Jeffrey Abramson of the Tower Company in DC talking about Maharishi Sthapatya Ved. Apparently the line pro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/7/06 10:33 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> You mean about the $millions$ that have been skimmed by Maharishi's > > nephews > >> running the Indian TMO, to build their fancy mansions, buy their >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/7/06 10:33 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> You mean about the $millions$ that have been skimmed by Maharishi's > > nephews > >> running the Indian TMO, to build their fancy mansions, buy their >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Jason Spock
      My initator tells me that Maharishi's nephews fight among themselves for the share of the Loot.        He quoted one of the nephews making Statements like 'I stole in thousands, but he stole in Millions.'   etcwayback71 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:52:26 -0

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: GROUNDBREAKINGS TODAY IN MVC!!!

2006-04-07 Thread George DeForest
  - Original Message - From: Maharishi Enlightenment Center To: Maharishi Enlightenment Center Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: GROUNDBREAKINGS TODAY IN MVC!!! Dear Maharishi Vedic City Community,   Today is Shri Raam Navami, when the Administrating value of Nature

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:51 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: While I agree, I might point out that the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) is a real bargain if what you want is a fancy title. All you do is make up your own, make sure that the name could have existed during the time period and geographi

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Chain]

2006-04-07 Thread Jason Spock
      I wrote about this to quite a few people.  NoBody except Sir Rick Archer bothered to reply.       I think this idea of Superiority has become a Dogma.       The sooner the TM movement gets rid of this Chain [Golden Chain]  the better off it will be.       I think it's Voltaire who s

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Richard Hughes
>From: "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh >Yogi >Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:28:04 - > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >From: "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 11:52 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> on 4/7/06 10:33 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean about the $millions$ that have been skimmed by Maharishi's >>> nephews ru

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Chain]

2006-04-07 Thread authfriend
Once again, for some reason Barry's posts aren't showing up on the Web site, so I'm quoting from Jason's response. [Barry wrote:] > So were you. It was part and parcel of the TM > teaching. And furthermore, YOU still believe it, > Shemp; it is part and parcel of what you say on > this forum. YOU

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes

2006-04-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > On Apr 6, 2006, at 5:15 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > On Apr 6, 2006, at 4:47 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Jason Spock
      Would the Nephews bite the hand that feeds them.  Maharishi also protects them from Tax-raids.  Without Maharishi they would have lot of problems.Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:24:07 -0500Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Here is the official Movement statement on Diksha and > anyone who is teaching it. > > > > ³Maharishi¹s Movement does not endorse in any way > any techniques > or programs > > other than those taught by His

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > wrote: > > > And here is the behind the scenes reality of the > > Movement on Deeksha. > > > > Jacque, the former National Leader of Holland went to > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/6/06 11:51 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > [...] > >> No organization connected with TM has ever done anything geared > >> toward improvin

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > > > wrote: > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > > > > > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I don't > > > consider t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > wrote: > > > > The fact is many people in the movement are receiving > > deeksha because it gives direct experience of the > > Divine, is not a path or a spiritu

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 7, 2006, at 9:48 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > > > > > Those full-time in the tmo definitely honor the titles, though I > don't > > > consider that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi on 4/7/06 1:34 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:       Would the Nephews bite the hand that feeds them.   I think they’ve got each other by the balls. It could go like this: Nephews: “We’ve got some dirt

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread Jason Spock
      The TM-org lacks compassion.  Had it been a little compassionate and treated it's members like family, it would not be having so many enemies today.ShempMcGurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:43:06 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]     From

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >From: "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Chain]

2006-04-07 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Once again, for some reason Barry's posts aren't > showing up on the Web site, so I'm quoting from > Jason's response. > > [Barry wrote:] > > So were you. It was part and parcel of the TM > > teaching. And furthermo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Jason Spock
    Maharishi has considerable influence politico-social sphere in India.  He can pull strings and get things done.  Besides the number of devotees willing to obey him and do anything for him is still high.       In India, if you have the right connections, Nothing can touch you.  It is very d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- Rick Archer wrote: > > The wild parties were new to me. I used to enjoy meditator parties because there was a lot of energy and we didn't have to rely on alcohol or drugs to get loose. As a Minneapolis musican told us at an MIU dance, "Most people dance to some of the songs. You guys dance

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Maharishi has considerable influence politico-social sphere in India. He can pull strings and get things done. Besides the number of devotees willing to obey him and do anything for him is still high. > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Maharishi has considerable influence politico-social sphere in India. He can pull strings and get things done. Besides the number of devotees willing to obey him and do anything for him is still high. > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 4658

2006-04-07 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- authfriend wrote: > > I'd be interested in knowing whether people who don't > practice TM have the same results with diksha. And whether they're suffering side effects from having their kundalini unleashed. I've known meditators who get a shot of shaktipat and think it's great for a week, t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Digest Number 4664

2006-04-07 Thread steven klayman
part of todays [EMAIL PROTECTED] exchange. steve Thanks to all for the info. So, I guess Diksha is a form of shaktipat or something? I believe Muktananda gave shaktipat. If an agreed on definition as i understand it is the transference of the guru's energy to the disciple, then deeksha is not s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > wrote: > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi on 4/7/06 2:17 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:      Probably, Bevan Morris and John Hagelin will be the two hot-shots controling the movement and it's finances.   Maybe, but I suspect that the nephews

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 2:39 PM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > That said, are these Srivastava parties marked by > wanton abuse of drugs, or are they just an Indian > version of the get-down-and-boogie nights > I used to enjoy? I don't know the details. Maybe we should send a gate crasher.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 2:40 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > > Are you guys sure you didn't cross some wires during your last program > and confused spiritual leadership with the Sopranos? I don't think it was we who crossed the wires. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -

[FairfieldLife] Second letter from a Purusha friend

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Second letter from a Purusha friend Kerala - December 2005     My journey through central and northern Kerala began at Fort Cochin, one of the finest towns in India. My first stop was Kaladi, the birthplace of Shankara. Just being in this town brought Shankara to my awareness and my

[FairfieldLife] Third letter from a Purusha friend

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Third letter from a Purusha friend I'm now in the blue city of Jodhpur in the deserts of Rajasthan. I've been traveling since Christmas and this is my first opportunity to email.  I’m going to plant my flag in Jodhpur for about a week, then I was going further into the desert to the cit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- Rick Archer wrote: > > Gillam wrote: > > > > That said, are these Srivastava parties marked by > > wanton abuse of drugs, or are they just an Indian > > version of the get-down-and-boogie nights > > I used to enjoy? > > I don't know the details. Maybe we should send a gate crasher. I nominat

[FairfieldLife] Fourth letter from a Purusha friend

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Fourth letter from a Purusha friend Here is my Israel story.        I first stayed for a few days in a convent just outside Jerusalem in the town where John the Baptist was born. My first visit was to the Wailing Wall in the Old City. I was a little taken back that the first people I

[FairfieldLife] First letter from a Purusha friend

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
Title: First letter from a Purusha friend Bill Dunn died the other day in India after a long battle with cancer. Here are 4 letters from him (separate emails): This is a letter from an ex-Purusha friend about his travels in India.  If you want to read Part 2 and did not receive it, let me kno

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock wrote: > > > > > > Maharishi has considerable influence politico-social sphere in > India. He can pull strings and get things done. Besides the number > of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Vaj
On Apr 7, 2006, at 3:56 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: > --- Rick Archer wrote: > > > > Gillam wrote: > > > > > > That said, are these Srivastava parties marked by > > > wanton abuse of drugs, or are they just an Indian > > > version of the get-down-and-boogie nights > > > I used to enjoy? > > > > I d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Jason Spock
      My initator told me that the TM-org was using pundits and meditators to bring in Gold into into india.  There was a time when Gold inflow was under severe controls in India.  Every TM-org person coming in, had maximun permissible amount of gold with him which was collected by the Indian T

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > on 4/7/06 10:33 AM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: > > >> > > >> You mean about the $millions$ that have been skimmed by Maharishi's > > > nephews

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 3:03 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Are you guys sure you didn't cross some wires during your last program >> and confused spiritual leadership with the Sopranos? > > A couple yrs ago, a friend who knew alot about the Indian TMO said to > me something to the ef

[FairfieldLife] David Lynch on TM

2006-04-07 Thread bob_brigante
http://tinyurl.com/r7pnq 'He sounds like an Iowa grandfather over the telephone. His excited descriptions of consciousness tumble forth with no detached coolness.' *** Twenty cups of coffee a day will do that for ya... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Shemp]

2006-04-07 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Queen Elizabeth of > England and all her courtiers and the "Royal" family all look just as > silly (to my eyes) as the current crop of TMO rajahs. Yes, but the Brits don't get to enjoy it: "Great Br

[FairfieldLife] Re: First letter from a Purusha friend

2006-04-07 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill Dunn died the other day in India after a long battle with cancer. Here > are 4 letters from him (separate emails): > > This is a letter from an ex-Purusha friend about his travels in India. If > you want to r

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: First letter from a Purusha friend

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 4:21 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Bill Dunn died the other day in India after a long battle with > cancer. Here >> are 4 letters from him (separate emails): >> >> This is a letter fro

[FairfieldLife] Re: The four classes [Chain]

2006-04-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > Once again, for some reason Barry's posts aren't > > showing up on the Web site, so I'm quoting from > > Jason's response. > > > > [Barry wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: deeksha

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > wrote: > > > > Sounds very nice .. but I detect a few caveats are in order. > > Quite a few, actually. > > > One is that Divine Intelligence (DI) isn't lo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/7/06 10:33 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> You mean about the $millions$ that have been skimmed by Maharishi's > > nephews > >> running the Indian TMO, to build their fancy mansions, buy their

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM on CBS

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There will be a 10 minute segment on the TM program and Fairfield/Maharishi > Vedic City on CBS Sunday Morning this coming Sunday, April 9th. Featured in > the piece will be Jeffrey Abramson of the Tower Company

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 4/7/06 10:33 AM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: > > >> > > >> You mean about the $millions$ that have been skimmed by Maharishi's > > > nephews > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My initator tells me that Maharishi's nephews fight among themselves for the share of the Loot. > > He quoted one of the nephews making Statements like 'I stole in thousands, but he stole in Mi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 5:06 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > wild all-night parties? >>> >>> Is that what they do? >> >> Yes. I was reminded of this the other day by a friend who just came > back >> from India. >> > > They were present at these parties? How did they get invited? He was tell

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM on CBS

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/7/06 5:07 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> >> There will be a 10 minute segment on the TM program and > Fairfield/Maharishi >> Vedic City on CBS Sunday Morning this coming Sunday, April 9th. > Feat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Declaration of Loyalty to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2006-04-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Well your friend is clearly just unstressing and should stop spreading > >these negative rumors. > > > >Besides the scriptures state that one man attaining Brah

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