[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Thank God for Judy. Ditto. Thank God for Judy. She can mop the floor with Barry with one hand tied behind her back and knock down a bourbon while she's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-29 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: The Rama fellow I studied with for many years taught Lucid Dreaming. He taught it in the context of Tibetan Dream Yoga, but the techniques were the same as those I've later found in Native American

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I've mentioned one lucid dream I've had several times on FFL and that was the one with Jesus who looked more like Naveen Andrews than the way that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-29 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I've mentioned one lucid dream I've had several times on FFL and that was the one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-29 Thread Vaj
On Jan 29, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Richard M wrote: Oh yes, that's true of course. But the West has more to offer than just that I think. You could say there are three Western views (and no doubt more): Let me share some counterpoint, the mantrayana views of dream and sleep: Dreams are helpful

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-29 Thread Bhairitu
Richard M wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: The Rama fellow I studied with for many years taught Lucid Dreaming. He taught it in the context of Tibetan Dream Yoga, but the techniques were the same as those I've later found

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: What I'm inter- ested in is whether anyone on FFL has had experiences of this sort, and wants to rap about them. No experts, no dogma, just rappin'...trying to figure things out. The Rama fellow I studied with for many

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: What I'm inter- ested in is whether anyone on FFL has had experiences of this sort, and wants to rap about them. No experts, no dogma, just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: In the dream state you're not a hampered by time, you can even play dreams in reverse or examine individual dream elements. Once one could shatter the constructs of the dreams, you could reduce it to a bare presence, even

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2009, at 8:44 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: But did you ever encounter teachings in the dream plane that just don't map to the waking state at all? I've had that experience many times, and it's always fascinating. The teaching itself was always clear as a bell *in* the dream plane.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: A number of the things I'd previously described simply cannot be done (as they were done in the dream) in the waking state, but they almost always will have some waking or meditative state counterpart that I had to realize or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Larry
I don't know if this qualifies as Lucid Dreaming or not - but about 1-2 times per month I will find myself in a frustrating dream. I attempt to salvage the dream by removing the frustration, but eventually just decide to end it and wake up. Example: Just last night I dreamt I was on a jet flight

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2009, at 9:52 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Not only does it have the advantage of expanding the realm of possibilities of what the mind can conceive, but also expanding the possibility of what it can believe. Exactly. This applies to experience of witnessing the siddhis being performed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
I am far from an expert on all this myself, and thus can't say whether this is a legitimate example of Lucid Dreaming or not. Sounds like it, if you intentionally changed the direction of the dream, even if you didn't have the sensation of waking up in the dream. On the other hand, if I'm ever

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Duveyoung
Turq, I find it strange that you are being somewhat pro lucid dreaming when I compare that to your POV about oogabooganess in general. I've but dabbled with lucid dreaming, so I can't go toe to toe with you, but I can ask questions of you that should clarify some things for me if you honestly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread raunchydog
Jumping in. I've never had any instruction on how to control lucid dreams, have no intention intention to do so, but find that I can if I want to. If lucid dreaming spontaneously occurs, it sometimes happens in the dome during rest after program. If I had a particularly blissful program, during

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Turq, I find it strange that you are being somewhat pro lucid dreaming when I compare that to your POV about oogabooganess in general. Edg, I have *no problem* with oogabooganess. I have a problem with *unexamined*

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Larry
Hey Edg, I'll have to check again tonight, but when I floated thru your office the other night, I thot for sure one of those stautues was a bust. Speaking of busts, those old Playboys you've got stashed away are a hoot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Turq,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Duveyoung
No busts over here. Wanna try another guess? Playboys? Here? As if. Real sex is how I roll. What I do think you DO know is why you posted this. And, if you could expound on that, hey, we'd all be agog if it were done with clarity. I'm an easy target here for this kind of teasing, but far

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Larry
On the long-shot that I was correct about the bust(s), then I could finally tell my Mom my one year at MIU paid off because it expanding my 'hunch power' If I was way off, I fall back on gentle ribbing. Since you caught me on both accounts, I apologize and won't do it again. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: If you played poker in the astral with your buddies, and they all said the next day that they had had the same experience and considered it true to say we were actually in each other's presense, actually had really

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:18 PM, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: So we never leave the dream world. We lived a dream world in the TMO and we left to live in an even dreamier world? I'm going back to the Self.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Consider this an Edg-like rap, in the tradition of determining whether anyone here on FFL is interested in the odd things I am, and wants to swap stories. It's also a rap addressing ED's complaint that nobody ever talks

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Jumping in. I've never had any instruction on how to control lucid dreams, have no intention intention to do so, but find that I can if I want to. If lucid dreaming spontaneously occurs, it sometimes happens in the dome

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Consider this an Edg-like rap, in the tradition of determining whether anyone here on FFL is interested in the odd things I am, and wants to swap

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I recently posted a rap about Lucid Dreaming. It is pasted in at the bottom of this post. What I'm inter- ested in is whether anyone on FFL has had experiences of this sort, and wants to rap about them. No experts, no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread ruthsimplicity
Here is an interesting article on lucid dreaming and the blurred lines between awake and sleep: http://www.lucidity.com/SleepAndCognition.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Jumping in. I've never had any instruction on how to control lucid dreams, have no intention intention to do so, but find that I can if I want