--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
>
> Ravi,
>
> You fail to understand the significance of the family unit in
> society from all cultures. History has shown that marriage
> and the family are the bases for continuing humanity, culture
> and society.
And also for serious oppres
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
>
> Judy,
>
> Your points are excellent unlike Ravi's immature ideas about
> sexuality and responsibility.
I don't agree with you that marriage is essential, John,
or that it's the only appropriate context for having
sexual relations. And Ravi'
wealth and power.
From: authfriend
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 7:39 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote:
>
> You are still hung
with husbands treating
> > woman as property and raping, mistreating wives because they have a license
> > from
> > the government and priest do so, correct?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________
> > From: John
> >
ves because they have a license
> from
> the government and priest do so, correct?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: John
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, November 11, 2011 6:49:27 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enl
Judy,
Your points are excellent unlike Ravi's immature ideas about sexuality and
responsibility.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> >
> > You are still hung up on marriage aren't you John.
> >
> > That you p
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote:
>
> You are still hung up on marriage aren't you John.
>
> That you place so much importance in an institution that was
> created to make women a possession like property
That's one way to look at it. Another way is that it was
created as a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
> > >
> > > Use your common sense. Watch this clip and weep.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch
woman as property and raping, mistreating wives because they have a license
from
the government and priest do so, correct?
From: John
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 11, 2011 6:49:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person
etter !!
From: Denise Evans
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Fri, November 11, 2011 8:07:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
So did I as her experience was interesting. Willy, you are on leave, but it
actually
e [Deeksha]
insisted, claiming she'd been one of many women he'd
had sex with in Bombay [in the early 1970s]..."
From: seventhray1
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 4:32 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlighten
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
> >
> > Use your common sense. Watch this clip and weep.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocbZhRQS9I
>
>
> If you are not yourself free how can you convincingly ta
I have to say, I really enjoyed this interview. I mean, I guess you buy
this ladies experiences, (which I do), or you chalk it up to random
brain activity, like many here seem inclined to do to explain so called
experiences of higher states of consiousness. I don't know if you
posted this interv
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
>
> Use your common sense. Watch this clip and weep.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocbZhRQS9I
If you are not yourself free how can you convincingly talk about freedom ?
Use your common sense. Watch this clip and weep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocbZhRQS9I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardwillytexwilliams"
wrote:
>
>
>
> Johnjr_esq:
> > If you believe that Osho only had one woman either
> > before or after Vivek, I can sell you the Brook
Johnjr_esq:
> If you believe that Osho only had one woman either
> before or after Vivek, I can sell you the Brooklyn
> Bridge.
>
Can you present any evidence?
>From what I've read, Osho was big on the talk, but
quite small when it came to the action.
'Bhagwan: The God That Failed'
By Hugh M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXYRh7E5eJ0
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote:
>
> Ravi,
>
> If you believe that Osho only had one woman either before or after Vivek, I
> can sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> >
> >
Ravi,
If you believe that Osho only had one woman either before or after Vivek, I can
sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2011, at 9:53 AM, "richardwillytexwilliams" wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Johnjr_esq:
> > > You have to read i
Ravi Yogi:
> Willytex quotes Eleanor Roosevelt...
>
"Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss
events. Small minds discuss people."
-- Eleanor Roosevelt
Subject: Small Minds
Author: TurquoiseB
Date: December 1, 2009 4:56 am
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/235684
t; > > enlightened man cannot do that" (have lustful thoughts), as in: "What
> > > > is the sound of one hand clapping" (Ravi mentioned this also has its
> > > > place---what else are computers for).
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRzcCbjQ_5I&feature=related
Animal like, is not a bad way to have sex. lol
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote:
>
> Oh no Barry2ji.. Don't know what video you watched.
>
> He didn't say animalistic, animal like, that the enlightened will indulge in
> animal like sex.
>
> Utterly natural, without any fee
Willytex quotes Eleanor Roosevelt- "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds
discuss events; Small minds discuss people"
Stick to that you little dick..
On Nov 9, 2011, at 1:24 PM, "richardwillytexwilliams"
wrote:
>
>
> Ravi Yogi:
> > Then Barry about MMY and groupies, another retard
> >
Ravi Yogi:
> Then Barry about MMY and groupies, another retard
> trying to project his repressed sexual desires into
> perverted fantasies.
>
> Osho had a single girl friend Vivek...
Yes, apparently it's very difficult to participate in
an orgy when you're stoned out on Valium, Quaaludes
an
Can an enlightened person enjoy being? : )
Being that, the FTC may or may not require a disclaimer about the above or
below comments for the health and safety from one's own indulgences, may or may
not be deemed appropriate to legal guidance by such entity, if that which is
being sought may be
> > > > is the sound of one hand clapping" (Ravi mentioned this also has its
> > > > place---what else are computers for).
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRzcCbjQ_5I&feature=related
> > > >
> > >
; (Ravi mentioned this also has its
> > > place---what else are computers for).
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRzcCbjQ_5I&feature=related
> > >
> > >
> > > From: John
> > > To: FairfieldLife
; enlightened man cannot do that" (have lustful thoughts), as in: "What is
> > > the sound of one hand clapping" (Ravi mentioned this also has its
> > > place---what else are computers for).
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRzcCbjQ_5I&
gt; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRzcCbjQ_5I&feature=related
> >
> > ____________________
> > From: John
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 9:47:20 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person
to produce great art, the Bhagavan was speaking paradoxically: "The
> > >> enlightened man cannot do that" (have lustful thoughts), as in: "What is
> > >> the sound of one hand clapping" (Ravi mentioned this also has its
> > >> place---what e
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN0OFO3qcNA
From: maskedzebra
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 11:21:44 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
Bob:
This is a personal thing of course, but I
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRzcCbjQ_5I&feature=related
>
>
>
> From: John
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 9:47:20 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
>
>
>
> Of cou
e lustful thoughts), as in: "What is
> >> the sound of one hand clapping" (Ravi mentioned this also has its
> >> place---what else are computers for).
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRzcCbjQ_5I&feature=related
> >>
> >>
> >> Fro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGorjBVag0I&feature=relmfu
From: Ravi Yogi
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 10:43:09 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
I have studied
d this also has its place---what else are
>> computers for).
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRzcCbjQ_5I&feature=related
>>
>> ____________________
>> From: John
>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 9:47:20 AM
>> Subject: [
> From: John
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 9:47:20 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
>
> Of course not!! These clips showed beautiful works of art. Kirk Douglas'
s also has its place---what else are
computers for).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRzcCbjQ_5I&feature=related
From: John
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 9:47:20 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Hav
On Nov 9, 2011, at 9:53 AM, "richardwillytexwilliams"
wrote:
>
>
> Johnjr_esq:
> > You have to read in between the lines in what
> > he's saying. Specifically, Osho discouraged
> > his followers to marry. In doing so, many of
> > his followers had multiple partners. As such,
> > it would
Johnjr_esq:
> You have to read in between the lines in what
> he's saying. Specifically, Osho discouraged
> his followers to marry. In doing so, many of
> his followers had multiple partners. As such,
> it would be likely that Osho participated in
> this practice as well.
>
Yes, one woul
Of course not!! These clips showed beautiful works of art. Kirk Douglas'
acting was excellent. Dr. Hook's song says it all.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote:
>
> Just curious; I have no doubt the Bhagavan knows of what he speaks, and can
> jump bones with as much gusto
You have to read in between the lines in what he's saying. Specifically, Osho
discouraged his followers to marry. In doing so, many of his followers had
multiple partners. As such, it would be likely that Osho participated in this
practice as well.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ri
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFrpHyE5Rp8&feature=related
From: seventhray1
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 4:48:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
I think this is what you
John Osho was into tantra to get enlightened. As such, he
> enjoyed having sex with women in his ashram without
> getting married to them.
>
>From what I've read, Osho had sex with a single
woman, Vivek, for over ten years. Apparently
he was NOT into having sex with multiple partners.
'Bhagw
8&feature=related
>
>
>
> From: Ravi Yogi
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:38:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
>
>
>
> OK Yifuji you bring your Ramana and we wi
Beautiful, blind baby.
and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmiLiwJjzGE
then Mrs. Moore's version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3UAPNPffGw
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote:
>
> Just curious; I have no doubt the Bhagavan knows of what he speaks, and can
> jump bones
Well, of course they can! :o
jahi shatruM, mahaabaaho,
kaamaruupaM *duraasadam*!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oKPYe53h78&feature=related
From: Ravi Yogi
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:38:52 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
OK Yifuji you bri
OK Yifuji you bring your Ramana and we will approach an average Joe, say Joe
the plumber.
We will show him Ramana, the sickly, clearly starving, lifeless, life
abnegating guy that any beautiful girl will be obviously be disgusted at.
Then we will have Ravi Yogi, the fun playful, enjoying life,
So what are those categories Yifuji?
Let me know soon otherwise I will have to categorize 1 to 6 either as freaks or
frauds.
On Nov 8, 2011, at 9:42 PM, "Yifu" wrote:
> sorry...this essay doesn't make much sense, in view of 1. Ramana Maharshi, 2.
> SBS, 3. Nityananda, Guru of Muktananda, 4. p
sorry...this essay doesn't make much sense, in view of 1. Ramana Maharshi, 2.
SBS, 3. Nityananda, Guru of Muktananda, 4. probably Jesus although nobody knows
for sure. 5. St. Paul, 6. countless others.
...
Your categories are not all-inclusive since you say "neither impotent, nor
sexually repres
m"
> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 5:54:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
>
> I don't know.. I'm getting concerned for Bob, he has stopped using words
> altogether, dealing primarily in videos, pictures. Is this some kind of
Don't bother John.
I will explain it since I'm a yogi, who's neither impotent nor sexually
repressed.
A yogi is full of sexual energy, totally aware of it, consumed by it,
internalizing the fantasies, the guilt, the shame.
After all no impotent man has ever been enlightened. Are you impotent J
"Is the wife responsible for this"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x-fkSYDtUY
From: Ravi Yogi
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 5:54:58 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person H
Yeah I never heard of that, so news to me, as far as I know he had one girl
friend - Vivek, that stayed with him. If he did I wouldn't agree with it all.
Even tantra requires one partner, he said as much as well.
Based upon your posts you seem to be pretty sexually repressed. Are you a
conserva
Osho was into tantra to get enlightened. As such, he enjoyed having sex with
women in his ashram without getting married to them. He said that his parents
did not approve of his chosen path.
Osho's parents preferred that he had chosen the traditional life paths
available in India. That is, y
> >
> >
> > From: Ravi Yogi
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 3:53:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
> >
> >
> &g
I have no clue what his path is.
Can you please summarize?
On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:01 PM, "John" wrote:
> It sounds like you agree with Osho's path to enlightenment.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> >
> > Loser gurus have been ashamed of their sexuality for the fear
i Yogi
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 3:53:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
>
>
>
> Loser gurus have been ashamed of their sexuality for the fear of their
> followers, this mad y
How can a license be bondage free? You were absolutely correct on that first
statement.
People like the celibate leader, because they think of Jesus as being celibate
and how can God or god be part of procreation? No one wants to think about
their mother or father having sex, so I guess when pe
Bob,
Nice clip. There's a message in there somewhere.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODlmEjZ8UFA
>
>
>
> From: Vaj
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 4:18:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvYadad-x5Y&feature=related
From: John
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 5:01:58 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
It sounds like you agree with Osho'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8RtXTyfeNA&feature=related
From: John
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 5:05:01 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2011, at 11:58 PM, John wrote:
>
> > Shri Bhagavan explains.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WnjTclRBnI&feature=related
>
>
> What a wonderful rationalization. Nice outfit. Westerners will eat this guy
> up because ma
It sounds like you agree with Osho's path to enlightenment.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote:
>
> Loser gurus have been ashamed of their sexuality for the fear of their
> followers, this mad yogi has no such qualms..
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
>
>
t;FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 4:01:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
>
> Gosh.. Let me rephrase.. Loser gurus hiding their sexuality for the fear of
> losing, alienating their fame, popularity among the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2011, at 11:58 PM, John wrote:
>
> > Shri Bhagavan explains.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WnjTclRBnI&feature=related
>
>
> What a wonderful rationalization. Nice outfit. Westerners will eat this guy
> up because ma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768h3Tz4Qik
From: Yifu
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 4:25:52 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
I don't get youtube. Who in the hell is "Sr
I don't get youtube. Who in the hell is "Sri Bhagavan"...some Vaisnava dualist?
http://www.popaganda.com/media/blogs/store/pop%20marilyn%20mickeysSM.jpg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2011, at 11:58 PM, John wrote:
>
> > Shri Bhagavan explains.
> >
> > ht
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIHny7QEf7o&feature=related
From: Ravi Yogi
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 4:01:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
Gosh.. Let me re
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ_wgNOEiv0&feature=related
From: Ravi Yogi
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 3:53:23 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
Loser gurus have b
Gosh.. Let me rephrase.. Loser gurus hiding their sexuality for the fear of
losing, alienating their fame, popularity among their sexually obsessed
followers.
On Nov 8, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> Loser gurus have been ashamed of their sexuality for the fear of their
> followers, th
Loser gurus have been ashamed of their sexuality for the fear of their
followers, this mad yogi has no such qualms..
On Nov 8, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> Ha !! I don't know - John may be right, but I wasn't going to let him go
> unanswered because I want enlightenment and sex too. T
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMOcFfauf9Q&feature=fvwrel
From: Ravi Yogi
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 3:46:50 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can an Enlightened Person Have Lust?
Ha !! I don't
Ha !! I don't know - John may be right, but I wasn't going to let him go
unanswered because I want enlightenment and sex too. Trust me I would rather
masturbate than make poor choices in beauty, style, morals and ethics than
Maharishi.
On Nov 8, 2011, at 3:25 PM, obbajeeba wrote:
> Excellent
Excellent and brilliant from the Sun Yogi!
HOw can anyone dispute that statement??? Nada.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote:
>
> LOL..John, so an enlightened person cannot like other mortals have sex
> without getting licensed from the government and/or the priests.
>
> So
LOL..John, so an enlightened person cannot like other mortals have sex without
getting licensed from the government and/or the priests.
So you seriously believe and think he said that enlightenment, which is free
from bondage, free of cause and effect now needs approval is not so?
On Nov 8, 20
IMO, he's saying there's nothing wrong with having sex with your wife. You can
be enlightened even if you're married.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi wrote:
>
> Beautiful, I was very curious. He didn't disappoint me at all :-)
>
> There is lust, no pain, no suffering.
>
> Ther
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