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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Verrill
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Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 12:21 PM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltabl
--- On Mon, 11/17/08, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Verrill
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 4:37 PM
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Consider yourself chastised, Barry.
The welts on my back may take
weeks to heal. Weeks.
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Note that you failed to chastise Barry for
"ducking the question" when he didn&#x
ed_dawn11
> > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 3:05 PM
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> > > It's not a lot to ask. Since you're pooh-
> > > poohing the experiences of ot
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On Nov 17, 2008, at 3:07 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
"Injunctive or other equitable relief..." Hmmm,
sure glad they used such clear and understandable terms.
Even if they had given you a copy, I wonder if
any of their BS would actually have held up in
court. Sure would have been fun to watch.
I do
On Nov 17, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
On Nov 17, 2008, at 1:31 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
>> Are you really being serious about the Hell bit?
>
> Do you think Nabby thought up the stuff he
> spouts here about Rick going to Hell on his
> own?
I have no idea, since I don't read his garbage.
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> It's not a lot to ask. Since you're pooh-
> poohing the exper
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine
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> > On Nov 17, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
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> > > Do you recall having been told a hundred times, by
> > > the time you became a teacher, "t
ok B. there's an answer that's as good as any. tell me you're
satisfied...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> ---She's a Neo-Advaitin TB, & falsely believes it's "good" not to
> have a Guru or practice any techniques. She claims to reject
nothing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On Nov 17, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
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> > Do you recall having been told a hundred times, by
> > the time you became a teacher, "that if you ever
> > walked away from TM and the TMO...that you would go
>
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On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:47 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Verrill
On Nov 17, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
On Nov 17, 2008, at 1:31 PM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Your call.
> > >
> > > Mine is to persist in my assessment of you
>
---She's a Neo-Advaitin TB, & falsely believes it's "good" not to
have a Guru or practice any techniques. She claims to reject nothing
but has the usual assortment of opinions on politics, economics,
organizations, etc. She claims that only "Being" is good enough for
her, but at the same typ
On Nov 17, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
Do you recall having been told a hundred times, by
the time you became a teacher, "that if you ever
walked away from TM and the TMO...that you would go
directly to Hell, do not pass GO, do not collect
$200"?
Does any present or former TM teacher h
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> Dr. Verrill's book about his appreciation of Maharishi's knowledge has
> finally been published just in recent days (he has been a great
devotee of
> Total Knowledge and Maharaja-ji's Discovery in every way)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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On Nov 17, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
On Nov 17, 2008, at 1:31 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
>> Are you really being serious about the Hell bit?
>
> Do you think Nabby thought up the stuff he
> spouts here about Rick going to Hell on his
> own?
I have no idea, since I don't read his garbage.
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Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:07 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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Do you recall having been told a hundred times, by
the time you became a teacher, "th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> wrote:
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> > Your call.
> >
> > Mine is to persist in my assessment of you
> > as a spiritual poseur who has never paid her
> > dues in ANY spiritual organ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> wrote:
> Or you could walk away from the request
> > to fill us in a little on your background, as
> > you seem to want to do.
> >
> > But if you choose to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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[Barry wrote:]
> I would imagine that the situation in Fairfield
> now is a far cry from what I described, because
> so many *have* walked away. But earlier in TMO
> history, it wasn't fanciful at all. Curtis
> receiv
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Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:48 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Verrill
On Nov 17, 2008, at 1:31 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
>> Are you really being serious
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
> > > wrote:
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On Nov 17, 2008, at 1:31 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
>> Are you really being serious about the Hell bit?
>
> Do you think Nabby thought up the stuff he
> spouts here about Rick going to Hell on his
> own?
I have no idea, since I don't read his garbage.
>
>
>>> It was made very clear that if you chose t
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:32 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Verrill
I would imagine that the situation in Fairfield
now is a far cry from what I described
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Barry, this sounds pretty fanciful. I don't recall
> ever getting this message. What I *do* recall
> was the message that if you did anything OTP
> you wouldn't get on any more courses, or be
> allowed into the domes
On Nov 17, 2008, at 11:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> In the military if you go AWOL, you know ahead
> of time (because you have been told this) that
> the worst that can happen to you is that you will
> go to prison or, in time of war, be shot for
> desertion.
Is that all?
>
> In the TMO, by the time
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:48 AM, curtisdeltablues
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> I tried to read David's book but couldn't get through it. I guess you
> have to be in the mindset where it all sounds profound rather than
> just fey.
>
Thank you. I as usual felt that I was alone feeling this way.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > i am intimately familiar with the dynamics within spiritual
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
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> > i am intimately familiar with the dynamics within spiritual
> > organizations...
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> How intimately. Please list for us the extent
> of your i
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
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> i am intimately familiar with the dynamics within spiritual
> organizations...
How intimately. Please list for us the extent
of your involvement with the TM organization.
When were you instructed in TM, when a
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
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> > > I feel is an unreasonable proposal for one human to make to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
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> > of course, the end result is supposed to be a total
transformation
> > of one's life, so expecting total devotion isn't too much to ask
> > for.
>
> Actually such a vague claim when paired with the conce
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
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> > I feel is an unreasonable proposal for one human to make to
> > another without any restrictions, such as we have in the
> > military
> of course, the end result is supposed to be a total transformation
> of one's life, so expecting total devotion isn't too much to ask
> for.
Actually such a vague claim when paired with the concept that if your
life goes to hell, that is just purification and karma, does seem
unreasonable to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
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> > > > it is a simple formula-- you either do what the mas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
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> > > it is a simple formula-- you either do what the master asks of
> you
> > > and gain what the master has to give, or you don't. it i
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
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> > it is a simple formula-- you either do what the master asks of
you
> > and gain what the master has to give, or you don't. it is not a
> > matter of sitting on the sidelenes chattering about it. the
choic
> it is a simple formula-- you either do what the master asks of you
> and gain what the master has to give, or you don't. it is not a
> matter of sitting on the sidelenes chattering about it. the choice
> is a clear one, and if you don't accept it or accept it, what is the
> difference? unless
> Absolutely. The wannabe spiritual fascist devotee
> who is berating some other student for NOT doing
> what the 'Master' says. :-)
Well played! Yes, I recognize myself in that during my movement
years. But getting back to the finger pointing I was sooo enjoying...
Repeating stories like thi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
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> > > "The devotee of a Master can even `hate' His Master, but he
> > > does as `he> says.'" Knowledge of what is necessary is
> > > righteousnes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > "The devotee of a Master can even `hate' His Master, but he
> > does as `he> says.'" Knowledge of what is necessary is
> > righteousness the duty of > the> devotee. (p.42)
>
> We have had a few debates he
> "The devotee of a Master can even `hate' His Master, but he does as
`he> says.'" Knowledge of what is necessary is righteousness the
duty of > the> devotee. (p.42)
We have had a few debates here about Maharishis assuming the role of
master or not. Does anyone reading this believe that he was
How long until he and Jessamine are declared saints
of the TMO religion?
Methinks Bevan is looking at his own blood pressure,
and setting the stage for his own beatification.
David and Jessamine were neat people, and I enjoyed
working with them. But they were just people, just
as Maharishi was.
>From David Verrill's book:
"By what name should we address
you? We hear some people calling you `Mahar'shi,' and others calling you
`Maharishi' we do not want to be disrespectful." His immediate
response
was, "You can call me anything you want, as long as there is love in
your
heart."
With su
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Dear Members of the University, Maharishi School, Fairfield and
Maharishi
> Vedic City communities,
>
> After 96 trips around the sun, dear Founder of the U.S. Movement
and Trustee
> of Maharishi University of Man
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