[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The ultimate form of this enforced ignorance I'm talking about, of course, is when someone points out that the diehard TMer really doesn't know very much, they *admit* that they don't know very much, and then they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip I find it hard to believe that ANY TM teacher was ever instructed to require

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
So any who disagree will be lying? There is another possiblity. Wanna guess what that is? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: TM is not that unique in its process. It is called yogic meditation in other circles. The actual use of the bijas particularly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: sparaig wrote: [...] Who they? Annoop Chandola was taught to meditate by Swami Shantananda Saraswati, and he's under

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] When are you *ever* going to see a Nablus showing up for a course, or a Sparaig, or a Peter Klutz, or a Judy Stein? They just talk. That's all they'll EVER do. Even now, when someone is willing to *pay* them to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I'll jump in here, not for the sake of being argumentative, but just to relate my experience. I became a teacher much later than all of you pioneers, so I cannot speak to what you might have been told on your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] When are you *ever* going to see a Nablus showing up for a course, or a Sparaig, or a Peter Klutz, or a Judy Stein? They just talk. That's all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: OK, I'll jump in here, not for the sake of being argumentative, but just to relate my experience. I became a teacher much later than all of you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 8:00 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: I've heard about thispolicy numerous times. What I don't understand is why nobody ever threatened to sue the SOBs. That's deception, pure and simple. Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] When are you *ever* going to see a Nablus showing up for a course, or a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: OK, I'll jump in here, not for the sake of being argumentative, but just to relate my experience.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread vajradhatu108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: sparaig wrote: [...] Who they? Annoop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So any who disagree will be lying? There is another possiblity. Wanna guess what that is? Thanks for pitching in Turq. As we both know, there are no number of examples that will be considered proof. And if one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Sep 19, 2006, at 11:08 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 8:00 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: I've heard about thispolicy numerous times. What I don't understand is why nobody ever threatened to sue the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] When are you *ever* going to see a Nablus showing up for a course, or a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I find it hard to believe that ANY TM teacher was ever instructed to require his/her students to kneel or they wouldn't be taught, not even the Indian ones teaching in India. I'm also wondering what the instructions

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vajradhatu108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Actually--as with TM where an effort must be taken to sit down to meditate and close eyes, maintain mindfullness to return to mantra, etc., etc. The first effort--sitting down and closing the eyes--is irrelevant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This entire group of people who have never tried any other technique of meditation or self discovery but TM, many of whom have been too afraid even to *read* about any other technique but TM, and yet they consider

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: OK, I'll jump in here, not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 11:08 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 8:00 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: I've heard about thispolicy numerous

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip This entire group of people who have never tried any other technique of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: TM is not that unique in its process. It is called yogic meditation in other circles. The actual use of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip I find it hard to believe that ANY TM teacher was ever instructed to require his/her students to kneel or they wouldn't be taught, not even the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I can tell, the entire range of know- ledge I ever read or was exposed to in the TM movement was just that -- A, B and C. Since leaving the TM movement and spending almost 30 years doing a lot of reading in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread Bhairitu
jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I can tell, the entire range of know- ledge I ever read or was exposed to in the TM movement was just that -- A, B and C. Since leaving the TM movement and spending almost 30 years doing a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vajradhatu108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip I find it hard to believe that ANY TM teacher was ever instructed to require his/her students to kneel or they wouldn't be taught, not even the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I'm glad you got your credit redeemed, John, sorry that it took such an effort and that you were treated so shabbily. Experiences like yours pretty are pretty much along the lines of others I have heard of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip I find it hard to believe that ANY TM teacher was ever instructed to require

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing compared to the issues found in people who practice Kundalini techniques. How many TMers grab butcher knives and castrate themselves? I know of one documented case in the movement. With the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is that TM teachers in the 60's and 70's were heavy into drugs before deciding to become TM teachers. and that THAT is what all the legends spring from: super-heavy unstressing of heavy dopers. Detox isn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to lie. And this is Sparaig, who *still* hasn't gotten that what this admission means, if true, is that *his* teachers were taught to lie to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to lie Was it your experience of TTC that leads you to challenge that statement about what teachers were taught? Neither

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teacherwere taught to lie Was it your experience of TTC that leads you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: My guess is that TM teachers in the 60's and 70's were heavy into drugs before deciding to become TM teachers. and that THAT is what all the legends

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to lie. And this is Sparaig, who *still* hasn't gotten that what this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to lie Was it your experience of TTC that leads

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to lie Was it your experience of TTC that leads

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip But Sparaig won't believe this, and he similarly won't believe any other TM teacher who chimes in and answers his question with a hearty Yes.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks, Curtis! That's way interesting. The Finnish translation is, to say the least, rather lame; something like those, who have chosen not to marry. The Latin goes like qui se ipsos castraverunt... (those who castrate themselves), and the German die sich selbst verschnitten haben um des

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for pitching in Turq. As we both know, there are no number of examples that will be considered proof. And if one believer teacher comes up to lie to protect daddy MMY, that will be considered the final word. We have both been down this road before. Of course the many examples of MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
Just a few quick replies, even though we ALL know she'll do nothing with them but nitpick and claim Why those aren't really lies...they're just an alternative way of saying things. :-) :-) :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With a history of Castrati singers man's casual attitude towards another man's manhood is dark. This verse inspired a whole cult which swept through prisons in the South US to take him at his word. I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for pitching in Turq. As we both know, there are no number of examples that will be considered proof. And if one believer teacher comes up to lie to protect daddy MMY, that will be considered the final

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Curtis! That's way interesting. The Finnish translation is, to say the least, rather lame; something like those, who have chosen not to marry. The Latin goes like qui se ipsos castraverunt... (those

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
Yeah, that is really taking one(or two) for the team! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: With a history of Castrati singers man's casual attitude towards another man's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: My guess is that TM teachers in the 60's and 70's were heavy into drugs before deciding to become TM teachers. and that THAT is what all the legends

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Remember:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for pitching in Turq. As we both know, there are no number of examples that will be considered proof. And if one believer teacher comes up to lie to protect daddy MMY, that will be considered the final

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Remember: this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Thanks for pitching in Turq. As we both know, there are no number of examples that will be considered proof. And if one believer

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a few quick replies, even though we ALL know she'll do nothing with them but nitpick and claim Why those aren't really lies...they're just an alternative way of saying things. :-) :-) :-) --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I honestly can't and have no clue what you're talking about...and, hey, I've got ALOT of complaints about the TMO and MMY but your litany is foreign to me. If you worked on National or International staff this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Sep 19, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Peter wrote: --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After my period as a State Coordinator, I was asked to take over Barney Potratz's job at National while he was away on his sidhis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a few quick replies, even though we ALL know she'll do nothing with them but nitpick and claim Why those aren't really lies...they're just an alternative way of saying things. :-) :-) :-) It's hugely ironic for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: My guess is that TM teachers in the 60's and 70's were heavy into drugs before

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for pitching in Turq. As we both know, there are no number of examples that will be considered proof. And if one believer teacher comes up to lie to protect daddy MMY, that will be considered the final

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's hugely ironic for Barry, who is a documented chronic, incorrigible liar, to take such a tough stance on people who say things not quite the way he would say them and declare them to be liars. And it must be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: It's hugely ironic for Barry, who is a documented chronic, incorrigible liar, to take such a tough stance on people who say things not quite the way

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to lie Was it your experience of TTC that leads you to challenge that statement about what teachers were

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teacherwere taught to lie Was it your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither Sparaig nor Judy Stein ever attended TTC. The things they parrot here as if they were Great Cosmic Truths are things that were taught to them by people just like us, who had been trained to lie to them by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't know about Sparaig, but it seems clear that Judy has never *had* that desire to help others, so I don't think it would ever have become relevant. Of course, that's only clear in Barry's increasingly sick

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: [...] Who they? Annoop Chandola was taught to meditate by Swami Shantananda Saraswati, and he's under the impression that he learned TM or something extremely similar to it. TM is not that unique in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither Sparaig nor Judy Stein ever attended TTC. The things they parrot here as if they were Great Cosmic Truths are things that were taught to them by people just like us, who had been trained to lie

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: [...] Who they? Annoop Chandola was taught to meditate by Swami Shantananda Saraswati, and he's under the impression that he learned TM or something extremely similar to it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: I approved everyone who ever applied at the centers I worked at. Several of them were blackballed by other teachers, for greivous sins like reading off-the-program books, living together while

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I mean, just look at the alternative, all the people on this forum who pretend to be spiritual and pretend to be gung-ho TMers, but who couldn't walk their talk on a bet. When are you *ever* going to see a Nablus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Bhairitu
wayback71 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Neither Sparaig nor Judy Stein ever attended TTC. The things they parrot here as if they were Great

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread hermandan0
OK, I'll jump in here, not for the sake of being argumentative, but just to relate my experience. I became a teacher much later than all of you pioneers, so I cannot speak to what you might have been told on your courses. Nor am I speaking about the lack of integrity in the TMO that is so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Peter wrote: --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: After my period as a State Coordinator, I was asked

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I'll jump in here, not for the sake of being argumentative, but just to relate my experience. I became a teacher much later than all of you pioneers, so I cannot speak to what you might have been told on your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Sep 19, 2006, at 8:00 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: I've heard about thispolicy numerous times. What I don't understand is why nobody ever threatened to sue the SOBs. That's deception, pure and simple. Sal I used the word 'attorney' in a letter about an ATR credit refund and it got me

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 8:00 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: I've heard about thispolicy numerous times. What I don't understand is why nobody ever threatened to sue the SOBs. That's deception, pure and simple. Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
John, I had a front row seat for the fact that you were a sincere guy trying to do the right thing and support the World Plan of MMY. The fact that they screwed you over is on them, not you. I admire your dedication to your own experience. Because I was close enough to see some of it up close,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
The movement is probably the most supportive environment for her socially. All the rounding may be destabilizing, but she is movement royalty and that has its advantages. The rest of the world would be a hard reality to face at this point I imagine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a friend: rick, noticed the d.henning posts on fflife...i've been told she's staying in vedic city right now and doing the course...been out of the hospital for awhile...apparently gave a lot of money to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Debbie became psychotic the very last thing she needs is a long program! She needs to place her attention 100% in the relative and not drift off into some mental laya. Exercise, activity that fully engages her mind and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a friend: rick, noticed the d.henning posts on fflife...i've been told she's staying in vedic city right now and doing the course...been out of the hospital for awhile...apparently gave a lot of money to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The movement is probably the most supportive environment for her socially. All the rounding may be destabilizing, but she is movement royalty Does she get to have her weight in gold like the King did?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Debbie became psychotic the very last thing she needs is a long program! She needs to place her attention 100% in the relative and not drift off into some mental laya. Exercise, activity that fully engages her mind and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a friend: rick, noticed the d.henning posts on fflife...i've been told she's staying in vedic city right now and doing the course...been out of the hospital for awhile...apparently gave a lot of money to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: The movement is probably the most supportive environment for her socially. All the rounding may be destabilizing, but she is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Debbie became psychotic the very last thing she needs is a long program! She needs to place her attention 100% in the relative and not drift off into some mental laya.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: If Debbie became psychotic the very last thing she needs is a long program! She needs to place her

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: If Debbie became psychotic the very last thing she needs is a long program! She needs to place her

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It'll take at least one more Levi-Butler-type episode to get the TMO to institute guidelines. Probably three or four. Well, Barbara Wallace (Keith's first wife) shot someone -- during flying session i think --

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning -- keep anonymous on 9/18/06 1:59 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Barbara Wallace (Keith's first wife) shot someone Jessamine Verrill -- during flying session i think -- for being too loud. No. in the courtyard at Pac Pal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread Bhairitu
new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It'll take at least one more Levi-Butler-type episode to get the TMO to institute guidelines. Probably three or four. Well, Barbara Wallace (Keith's first wife) shot someone -- during

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread Bhairitu
Peter wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Debbie became psychotic the very last thing she needs is a long program! She needs to place her attention 100% in the relative and not drift off into

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: It'll take at least one more Levi-Butler-type episode to get the TMO to institute guidelines. Probably three or four. Well, Barbara Wallace

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: If Debbie became psychotic the very last thing she needs is a long program! She needs to place her

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-18 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/18/06 1:59 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Barbara Wallace (Keith's first wife) shot someone Jessamine Verrill -- during flying session i think -- for being too loud. No. in the

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