Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-05 Thread Gloria Lane
Thanks for the info on FortiFlora - I hadn[t heard of it and will check it out for those of my gang who may need it. Gloria On Jun 5, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Nina wrote: Melissa, Did you see the post about FortiFlora from Jane? You might want to ask your vet about it. Here's a paste from an

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The best thing about the Forti Flora is that it's in premeasured packets, is a powder and is easy to mix into wet food, and it's HIGHLY palatable - the cats LOVE it. I'm not convinced that it's any different as far as active ingredients goes from any other probiotic. It may be more effective beacus

RE: Update on Kisa

2007-06-05 Thread Melissa Lind
Thank you Nina-my vet said to give it a try-so, I'm going to order it tonight. I hope it works.Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Me

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-05 Thread Kelley Saveika
My vet has recommended this to me as well. On 6/5/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Melissa, Did you see the post about FortiFlora from Jane? You might want to ask your vet about it. Here's a paste from an email I sent to someone else battling diarrhea with her cat: > My sister forwarded yo

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-05 Thread Nina
Melissa, Did you see the post about FortiFlora from Jane? You might want to ask your vet about it. Here's a paste from an email I sent to someone else battling diarrhea with her cat: > My sister forwarded your update about Sophie to me and I had a thought... Someone on my felv list has a h

RE: Update on Kisa

2007-06-05 Thread Melissa Lind
nal Message - From: "Melissa Lind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 12:59 PM Subject: RE: Update on Kisa > Cassandra, > > I hope all is going well with you and Kisa this week. It's such good news > that she's doing a little bit better. I

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-04 Thread C & J
TECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 12:59 PM Subject: RE: Update on Kisa Cassandra, I hope all is going well with you and Kisa this week. It's such good news that she's doing a little bit better. It's just too bad that the vets have to be that way. I know they think

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-04 Thread Belinda
Doxy also comes in an injection. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design]

RE: Update on Kisa

2007-06-04 Thread Melissa Lind
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C & J Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 11:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Update on Kisa My guess, is her rapid breathing is caused by anemia. She is very pale, her feet and gums are much paler than normal. I am won

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-04 Thread dede hicken
; heck of a time giving her > pills too when she was there. > > I am trying to coat it in butter, but cat food juice > sounds good too. > > Cassandra > > - Original Message - > From: "Pam Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday,

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-03 Thread Nina
I almost hate to bring this up, but Dox is really harsh on the esophagus. My vet tech told me about a guy, (human), that stupidly took some without water and burned a hole in his throat. It's really important to wash pills down with a little bit of water, tuna water, or when I was giving meds

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-03 Thread C & J
harder as she gains strength. Cassandra - Original Message - From: "Pam Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Cat food juices are more slippery (I wanted to say 'slipperier" but that's obvious

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-03 Thread Pam Norman
ere having a heck of a time giving her pills too when she was there. I am trying to coat it in butter, but cat food juice sounds good too. Cassandra - Original Message - From: "Pam Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Update

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-03 Thread C & J
03, 2007 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa I find that the easiest way is to cut the tablet up & put it in a small gelcap. Then roll the gelcap in cat food juices. Makes it slippery & tastes good so they swallow! Not like sticking a nasty pill in that sticks someplace in the mouth to be

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-03 Thread Pam Norman
ote: Yes i'm giving her doxy, but she's one heck of a tough kitty to give pills to. Tomi is way easier to give pills. Cassandra - Original Message - From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Cass

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-03 Thread C & J
Yes i'm giving her doxy, but she's one heck of a tough kitty to give pills to. Tomi is way easier to give pills. Cassandra - Original Message - From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-03 Thread Belinda
Cassandra, I hope she is still getting the doxy otherwise your only prolonging the inevitable, hemo does not go away on its own. If her anemia is because od hemo she needs the doxy to live. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Ad

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread C & J
Actually she did do that. I just ripped the fabric lining off. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 9:02 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Oh, I love it! What we do for our babies. Al

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa I'm so glad she likes it! Don't get greedy about switching her to a plate, we don't want to jinx her! :-) . It's making me smile to picture you on your hands and knees coaxi

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread C & J
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa I'm so glad she likes it! Don't get greedy about switching her to a plate, we don't want to jinx her! :-) . It's making me smile to picture you on your hands and knees coaxing her to eat and actually hav

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
& J To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Thanks for the recipe, I will try it today. For tomato juice, can I just throw in a whole fresh tomato? I'm not sure what other ingredients might be in tomato juice. Some sugar may

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread Nina
I'm so glad she likes it! Don't get greedy about switching her to a plate, we don't want to jinx her! :-) . It's making me smile to picture you on your hands and knees coaxing her to eat and actually having her do it! Been there, done that :-) . C'mon Kisa! N C & J wrote: Kisa likes the li

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm so glad she is eating it, yes, licking a spoon is slow going. Can you put just a dab IN the spoon and get her to lap it out of the spoon (rather than licking the stuff that's clinging to the back of it)? If she wont do that, you might have better luck with a wood Popsicle stick, as more of the

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread C & J
dipping a spoon in food and letting her lick the back. Cassandra - Original Message - From: C & J To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Thanks for the recipe, I will try it today. For tomato juice, can

Re: Update on Kisa (tomato in liver shake)

2007-06-02 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
, and while it doesn't say anywhere on it what the ingredients are, I would imagine because it's 100% tomatoes. Cassandra - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa (tomato in

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
ednisone pill every 12 hours. I never really used the shots for him though. Cassandra - Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa I had Spencer on .4cc every 24 hours. At one point I tr

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
When I got the IV bag, the vet I talked to said to give her like 200ml per day. I think that's way too much right now...when it took her like 12 hours to absorb 100ml. Cassandra - Original Message - From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June

Re: Update on Kisa (tomato in liver shake)

2007-06-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That should work, just be sure to dilute it to normal "juice" dilution (taste it to be sure). Tomato paste is super concentrated. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your

Re: Update on Kisa (tomato in liver shake)

2007-06-02 Thread C & J
y, June 02, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa (tomato in liver shake) The tomato peel is not easily digested, and the seeds are not digested at all. You could use fresh tomato if you blanch it, peel it, and then remove all the seeds. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html

Re: Update on Kisa (tomato in liver shake)

2007-06-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The tomato peel is not easily digested, and the seeds are not digested at all. You could use fresh tomato if you blanch it, peel it, and then remove all the seeds. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread C & J
a > > - Original Message ----- From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 11:09 AM > Subject: Re: Update on Kisa > > >> Hey Cassandra, >> >> Wow, I am surprised and so happy that Kisa is >> rallying! I hope

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread C & J
urday, June 02, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Tad, I think that's a great food to try with Kisa, esp since she likes liver! Here's the recipe paste from Michelle: Here is the liver shake recipe: 1 cup raw liver (chicken or beef, I use chicken) 1 cup fresh carro

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread wendy
ems to be able > >>> to eat that way. > >>> > >>> I'd like to get her eating something other than > just liver, but if > >>> she'll eat that, its a good start. I may > dissolve a mulitvitamin in > >>> it for her if that's

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread Nina
Tad, I think that's a great food to try with Kisa, esp since she likes liver! Here's the recipe paste from Michelle: Here is the liver shake recipe: 1 cup raw liver (chicken or beef, I use chicken) 1 cup fresh carrot juice, tomato juice, or V-8 1/4 cup filtered water 1 raw egg yolk 1 tsp kelp

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread wendy
> give her like 200ml > > per day. I think that's way too much right > now...when it took her > > like 12 hours to absorb 100ml. > > > > Cassandra > > > > - Original Message - From: "wendy" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > T

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread Tad Burnett
ght, and has been purring today when we pet her, so I think she's feeling a bit better. She tried to bath herself, even though it tired her out some. Cassandra - Original Message - From: "Pam Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:36 PM

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread Nina
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa I had Spencer on .4cc every 24 hours. At one point I tried cutting back to eod, but it was obvious that wasn't enough. You might want to try the A/D as Tad suggests, but if it were me, I wouldn

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread Pam Norman
uot;wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 11:09 AM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Hey Cassandra, Wow, I am surprised and so happy that Kisa is rallying! I hope she can pull through. The dex can make a difference. I think the combo shot I mentioned early on shrin

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread C & J
l every 12 hours. I never really used the shots for him though. Cassandra - Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa I had Spencer on .4cc every 24 hours. At one point I tried cuttin

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread C & J
To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Will she eat A/D ??? That's mostly liver with vitamins... C & J wrote: Kisa is peeing, probably about every 8 hours. She's so weak, that if I don't have a litter box within 2feet of her, she'l

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread C & J
t: Saturday, June 02, 2007 11:09 AM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Hey Cassandra, Wow, I am surprised and so happy that Kisa is rallying! I hope she can pull through. The dex can make a difference. I think the combo shot I mentioned early on shrinks lymphoma, according to Michelle, the girl who u

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread wendy
Hey Cassandra, Wow, I am surprised and so happy that Kisa is rallying! I hope she can pull through. The dex can make a difference. I think the combo shot I mentioned early on shrinks lymphoma, according to Michelle, the girl who used to be here who knows a lot about it. If that's the case, and

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread Nina
I had Spencer on .4cc every 24 hours. At one point I tried cutting back to eod, but it was obvious that wasn't enough. You might want to try the A/D as Tad suggests, but if it were me, I wouldn't mess with trying to add vita to the liver she's eating. Hugs to you both, N C & J wrote: I'm gi

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread Tad Burnett
when we pet her, so I think she's feeling a bit better. She tried to bath herself, even though it tired her out some. Cassandra - Original Message ----- From: "Pam Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Cass

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread C & J
last for years, but I will try not to worry too much because whatever time we have left is precious. Cassandra - Original Message - From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 7:16 AM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Please, please, please conti

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread C & J
erself, even though it tired her out some. Cassandra - Original Message ----- From: "Pam Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Cassamdra. Do NOT attempt to express her bladder unless you are familiar with doing

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-02 Thread Nina
Please, please, please continue her daily shots of dex. The situation you share with Kisa is so eerily familiar that I don't think her current rebound is coincidental with the administration. It's such wonderful news that you've gotten a reprieve with sweet Kisa. I know how hard the battle t

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-01 Thread Pam Norman
Cassamdra. Do NOT attempt to express her bladder unless you are familiar with doing so! This is not something I would ever undertake without being sure I knew what I was doing as you can do real damage. Keep her litter fresh so that you can see what she pees if she is using the litter box.

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-01 Thread Kelly L
At 06:42 PM 6/1/2007, you wrote: Alot depends upon her kidney function and her respiratory status. On a healthy 10 lb cat 2-300 cc per day is fine, but if her organs are not working properly it could cause a fluidover load and even make it harder for her to breathe. Id she peeing,,,you need

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-01 Thread Belinda
Cassandra, Don't give her any more fluids until *ALL* of the previous fluids are absorbed, over hydration will put a strain on her heart. I'm so glad she is showing interest in food, try and put food in front of her every few minutes and see if she'll eat, she really needs to get a realis

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-01 Thread Pam Norman
Cassandra, I routinely give about 100 ml per day unless the cat is very small. Never give more fluids if what you have already given has not been absorbed. Usually it does not stay at the back of the neck but slides down under the belly against the back of the front leg. Sometimes down the

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-06-01 Thread C & J
A small update on Kisa. I didn't think she would make it through the night, and at one point I checked on her and thought she was gone, because I didn't see the heavy breathing. She did make it through the night, and I was seriously considering taking her in to the vet for euthanasia. I asked

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-31 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
k today, just so I can be with her..since I don't know how much longer she can do this. Cassandra - Original Message - From: C & J To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa The metachlopramide doesn't seem to be helping

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-31 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
Oh, oops! "Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation." On May 30, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Belinda wrote: Oh my god, I guess I should read my message before I send it, I meant ... try not to feel stressed I'd just like to add to this to try and feel be stressed, frustrated

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-31 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
Well, THERE you go! "Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation." On May 30, 2007, at 3:16 PM, Belinda wrote: If you get the injectable metachlopramide it bypasses the liver. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Ad

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-31 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
#x27;ve had were always wanting to make it quite clear that she didn't have a chance and it wasn't worth spending too much on her. I don't see any reason why a vet has to make sure that you have no hope, hope is the only thing that keeps me functioning. Cassandra -----

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-31 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
I agree. I'm just now getting out from under dealing with the beginning of Sammy's lymphoma and Billi Bi's plugged up little peepee and all the problems that causes. All of a sudden you won't feel so terribly burdened but when you are in the middle of all this stuff it is truly overwhelmi

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-31 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
Thank you, Belinda, it was just so awful and it was my little FeLV+ girl Mamie a month before she died. Awful! "Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation." On May 30, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Belinda wrote: Cassandra, I've had 3 cats with feeding tube (e-tube in th

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-31 Thread dede hicken
I keep opening up my email and hoping to see something positive about Kisa. You are both in my prayers. sometimes the little angels surprise us, but I know from personal experience how very hard this is for you. Be blessed, Dede "When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-31 Thread wendy
today, just so I can be with her..since I don't know > how much longer she can do this. > > Cassandra > - Original Message - > From: C & J > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:22 PM > Subject: Re: Update on Kisa > >

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-31 Thread catatonya
J To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa The metachlopramide doesn't seem to be helping. She had a shot this morning, and vomited mid afternoon. Then I gave her a shot tonight, and fed her 30 mins later...she vomited

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-31 Thread C & J
so I can be with her..since I don't know how much longer she can do this. Cassandra - Original Message - From: C & J To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa The metachlopramide doesn't seem to be hel

RE: Update on Kisa

2007-05-31 Thread Melissa Lind
talk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Update on Kisa The metachlopramide doesn't seem to be helping. She had a shot this morning, and vomited mid afternoon. Then I gave her a shot tonight, and fed her 30 mins later...she vomited that up. We actually pulled her tube out, unclogged it

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread Belinda
Cassandra, I know it's hard, believe me I know and I'm not saying don't have your moments of sadness, they are going to creep in just don't do it in front of Kisa, try to always feel positive around her and picture her getting better and keeping her food down. When your alone and Kisa is

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread C & J
ed from food/vomit, when she should be racing around the house without a care in the world, I just can't stop the tears. This waiting is definately the hardest part. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Belinda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 20

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread wendy
LOL Belinda...we knew what you meant. The info. you are giving is really good. I'm saving all of it for future reference. Thanks for taking the time to write it and help Cassandra and Kisa out. I just love this group! :) Wendy --- Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh my god, I guess I s

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread Belinda
Oh my god, I guess I should read my message before I send it, I meant ... try not to feel stressed I'd just like to add to this to try and feel be stressed, frustrated or think negatively, I know that seems almost impossible when things just seem to keep not working but cats are very sensitive

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread Belinda
I'd just like to add to this to try and feel be stressed, frustrated or think negatively, I know that seems almost impossible when things just seem to keep not working but cats are very sensitive to our feelings and your stress and fear is being picked up by her. With every fiber of your bei

To Cassandra Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread wendy
Cassandra, I'm so sorry you are having to deal with all of this, and Kisa too, of course. It sounds like you are about to blow a fuse. Keep in mind that if you can just stick it out a little while longer, things will either get better or Kisa will pass, but they will not stay the same. The wait

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread Marylyn
will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: C & J To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Well, the bad luc

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread Marylyn
nd pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:26 PM

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread C & J
ood today...and I guess I have to put her through the stress of another syringe feeding tonight. I could just scream about now. Cassandra - Original Message - From: C & J To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa T

RE: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread Melissa Lind
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C & J Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Update on Kisa The thing is with the vomiting though, I don't think its just because i'm feeding her. For the last week, she's been vomiti

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread Kelly L
;Belinda To: <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:47 AM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Cassandra, I've had 3 cats with feeding tube (e-tube in the esphogus) and never had a problem with vomiting with any of them unless

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread Belinda
I would push in 2 or 3 ccs and wait a few seconds then do 2 or 3 more ccs. I always wait a few seconds to give the food time to get down into the tummy. So I don't steadily plunge food in but give a few seconds break after each 2 or 3 ccs. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... B

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread Belinda
If you get the injectable metachlopramide it bypasses the liver. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread C & J
t: Re: Update on Kisa Cassandra, I've had 3 cats with feeding tube (e-tube in the esphogus) and never had a problem with vomiting with any of them unless I was going too fast or giving meds on an empty tummy, once I figured out what I was doing wrong it was no longer an issu

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread C & J
make sure that you have no hope, hope is the only thing that keeps me functioning. Cassandra - Original Message ----- From: Belinda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:47 AM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Cassandra, I've had 3 cats with

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread Pam Norman
35cc is a bit much at one time.I would give small feedings at regular intervals during the day & night. Find what she can keep down & calculate it out to see that she gets the equivalent of a can of A/D or Max/Cal. Pam Taylor Scobie Humphrey wrote: Metaclopramide should work beautifully. Oh,

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread Belinda
Hi Cassandra, Just read your email and see you have Kisa at home. That's great. Are you home all day, if so try what I said. Never give meds on an empty tummy. I'm starting to wonder if Kisa doesn't have pancreatitis going on, if she continues to vomit once your feeding small amounts

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-30 Thread Belinda
Cassandra, I've had 3 cats with feeding tube (e-tube in the esphogus) and never had a problem with vomiting with any of them *unless I was going too fast or giving meds on an empty tummy*, once I figured out what I was doing wrong it was no longer an issue. All of my feeding tube exp

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-29 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
Metaclopramide should work beautifully. Oh, Lord, vomiting up her feeding tube, yuck. Poor baby! 35cc seems like a lot of food all at once but I know she needs a certain amount every day just to stay even. They said that much? Maybe it was too cold or too warm or too fast. I've done t

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-29 Thread Kelly L
I am surprised she is not on Regaln already...( that is the drug you mentioned) safe and effective,,it aids in emptying the stomach and increasins peristalsis ,,so they do not vomit, ask for injectable!! thanks for the update and keep us posted, Kelly I brought Kisa home from the vet today.

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-29 Thread C & J
I brought Kisa home from the vet today. She's been fully hydrated and had a nasal feeding tube in place, with the lovely lampshade around her neck. She is still very lethargic/depressed, but a little more alert and her eyes look better. We're still no closer to a proper diagnosis though, beca

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-29 Thread Pam Norman
Yes there is a chance that all is due to anemia caused by the hemobart. BUT that being said, it is absolutely critical that she get the equivalent in calories per day that are in a can of MaxCal ideally (get it from a vet) or A/D (also from a vet). MaxCal has significantly more calories than A/

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-28 Thread Belinda
Cassandra, I'm glad Kisa is at the vets and I'm praying as hard as I can that she will have the strength needed to recover. Have you got copies of her blood work? I'd be interested in seeing them. Anemia can cause many of the symptoms she has had, lethargy, not wanting to eating and an

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-28 Thread Pam Norman
ut I guess he can't know for sure without the biopsy. Cassandra - Original Message - *From:* Taylor Scobie Humphrey <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org <mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> *Sent:* Monday, May 28, 2007 9:33 PM

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-28 Thread C & J
she wasn't overweight, and didn't stop eating til she got sick, but I guess he can't know for sure without the biopsy. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Up

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-28 Thread Pam Norman
I almost lost a precious one, my "boyfriend" kitty, to hemobart a few years ago. It was really scary. He had a high fever, his liver values were up, his HCT went down like a rock. But doxycycline saved his life. It is THE drug for hemobart. I would think that the combination of the doxy, the f

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-28 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
You are such a wonderful mommy to see little Kisa so often. That is doing a great deal to help in her recovery. Everyone likes to see somebody they love when they are ill. Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 28, 2007, at 6:52 PM, Kelly L wrote: At 04:41 PM 5/28/2007, you wro

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-28 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
If you find it hard to give up on Kisa, well, DON'T! Will you please ask your vet if a fine-needle biopsy of Kisa's liver is feasible? Then she won't need general anesthesia because it's a poke instead of an operation. We all have some variation of other kitties and jobs and kids and agi

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-28 Thread Kelly L
At 04:41 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote: I am so sorry you are both going through this. this is what we all face, thank goodness for wach other. I am sure Kisa was glad to have you visit and she must be feeling better not to be so dehydrated. Those are good things, I am probably way off base but is

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-28 Thread C & J
I visited Kisa three times at the vet today, and she's going to be spending another night there. They're keeping her on the IV. They also put in a feeding tube through her nose, so she's got that taped to the top of her head, and a cone around her neck. She seems a little more alert, but she

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-26 Thread wendy
Cassandra, I just read this email. How is Kisa doing today? I am not caught up yet. I hope she's better. Prayers going out for both of you. :) Wendy --- C & J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, after going to the vet today, it's not looking > good for Kisa. > > She has elevated bilirubin i

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-25 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
Belinda, I agree, I agree, I agree! Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 25, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Belinda wrote: PSS. Chemo generally doesn't cost "thousands", only confirms your vet doesn't know enough about treating cancer. I've had 3 cats with cancer, the most expensive treatm

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-25 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
MY cat is FeLV positive! And he has lymphoma. He had HUGE lymph nodes which literally blew up overnight. And now he's on chemo. The lymph nodes were literally GONE the day after his very first chemo. I was absolutely shocked! And he's doing GREAT! Fat and happy now, beautiful fur, ea

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-25 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
It's not the vet's decision to make. It is yours and Kisa's. Go see an oncologist. Please. Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 25, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Belinda wrote: All I can say is thank god this isn't the way my vet thinks ... The vet got back some blood test results, and s

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-25 Thread Pam Norman
r food, that i'm supposed to add a bit of potassium and vegetable oil to, and blend up. Cassandra - Original Message - From: "Pam Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:01 AM Subject: Re: Update on Kisa Do they mean cancer or do they mean lymp

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-25 Thread Belinda
Do any of them take Care Credit, $900.00 is way too much for a biopsy and feeding tube. My vet is not cheap and a ultrasound and biopsy is about $350.00 a feeding tube is about $200.00. Where do you live? Care Credit is basically a credit card with little or no interest is it's paid off in a

Re: Update on Kisa

2007-05-25 Thread Belinda
This is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE: She said that an FeLV+ cat will eventually die, within 3-5 years at most of contracting the virus. *Bailey my FeLV+ was positive at 5 months of age* and retested for 3 years in a row, always positive, he was *11 years old when he died* of pancreatic cancer, which

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