It seems to me there is a false dichotomy at work in this debate, as if
public sector funding were somehow different or insulated from the market.
Might I suggest this is nonsense? Public funding is a market like any other.
It has buyers and sellers competing for limited resources with the ultima
At 2:16 PM 06/18/02, Paul Delcour wrote:
>I was aware of what you stated. So for now, my music is for free, but I
>want it clealry stated that I either composed or arranged or wrote the
>lyrics. That's all.
As David noted, copyright under U.S. law is a collection of several
separate rights. One
At 04:41 PM 6/18/02 -0400, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:
>I may be wrong, but I think "work for hire" as applied to composition
>and performances is unique to the USA. It certainly doesn't exist in
>that form in Canada. One actually has to specifically give up one's
>rights to the employer in wri
Andrew, I won't argue your point that many, if not most composers in history
lived at least partly on the public dole, but will only point out that the
history of partially free markets is much shorter than the history of music.
I can't give you a similar list of those who never became artists bec
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On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, at 06:23 PM, David H. Bailey wrote:
> Until you've run up against the stupidity which is the poster child of
> state-run arts organizations, it is easy to feel as you do, that state
> support for the arts is a good thing.
David,
While your story is indeed a sad exa
> However, his comments on Enron betray so fundamental a misunderstanding
> of the situation that I had to respond.
>
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, at 04:53 PM, Lee Actor wrote:
>
> > You can unfairly castigate the free market if you
> > wish (the failure of Enron is a textbook demonstration of the
Found it! I checked a different box and put Petru Type1 font in my
fontfolder as well. Now it looks perfect. And small too. A PDF file of
one page of music now is only just 36 Kb. Thanks very much. Now on to
the tedious job of checking all my scores for little mistakes and flaws
before process
>
>I find it discouraging that so many artists find it not only acceptable, but
>a sign of progressivity to feed from the public trough. ... I
>believe that not only are government subsidies
>immoral in principle, but in the long run they are harmful to the cause of
>both art and artists. ...[W
Until you've run up against the stupidity which is the poster child of
state-run arts organizations, it is easy to feel as you do, that state
support for the arts is a good thing.
I conducted the Lowell Philharmonic Orchestra in Lowell, MA for 7 years.
We started a youth orchestra, a first-o
I'm not going to respond to the main thrust of Lee Actor's points
because he's obviously comfortable with a very different musical
landscape than I am. Personally, given the music that huge
multinationals like Viacom and Bertlesmann are recording and promoting,
giving emerging artists a chanc
Javier, I have received all you messages.
Joel Sears
At 02:16 PM 6/18/02, Javier Ruiz wrote:
>Dear listers,
>
>The American composer Tom Johnson (The Four Note opera, Bonhhoeffer
>Oratorium, Nine Bells, Failing) is putting all his music in the public
>domain.
>
>As a first step, his collection
Linda Worsley wrote:
> To all these comments about the huge size of pdfs...
There is a known Finale2002/2003 PS printing bug, that makes PDFs so large.
Finale 2001 produces very small PS output (which means small PDFs)
Please, send a request for a fix to Coda.
(mention "OwnPs=0 option in finale
> >> Sure I need to get paid for my work, but why not from a
> >> collective source instead of from individuals. Some sort of tax scheme
> >> or choir fund scheme. Whatever. Art should be public, not privately
> >> owned and tampered or speculated with or profited from. Maybe I'm in a
> >
At 3:50 PM +0100 6/18/02, Javier Ruiz wrote:
>Gracias, Linda, for your long answer.
>
>Now I see that USA (or better said your personal beahviour) is well ahead
>compared with Spain in this difficult business/art.
>
>Be sure that in Spain 95% of musicians don´t know what is "work for hire".
I
At 8:22 PM +0100 6/18/02, Javier Ruiz wrote:
>I am very sorry, because I have posted 3 times the same OT: message
>regarding a free book by Tom Johnson.
>
>I have not received myself the message, so I thought that something went
>wrong.
>
>Can someone confirm the reception?
>
>And again sorry for
On 18.06.2002 21:46 Uhr, Darcy James Argue wrote
> The NEA is effectively dead, I'm afraid. It's sentiments like those
> expressed on the list that put the last nail in the coffin. Despite the
> tiny budget it was operating with even before the cutbacks (costing
> every American a fraction of a
On 18.06.2002 19:13 Uhr, Paul Delcour wrote
> I have checked: download all needed fonts (translated from Dutch so it
> may read a bit different in an English OS). I then choose: save as file.
In the postscript driver there are two places where you can choose to
download fonts, only one seems to
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Date: Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:12:25 PM US/Eastern
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Subject: Re: [Finale] File formats - security anyone - copying or not
On Monday, June 17, 2002, at 10:28 PM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:
Hmm. Not a big support
I am very sorry, because I have posted 3 times the same OT: message
regarding a free book by Tom Johnson.
I have not received myself the message, so I thought that something went
wrong.
Can someone confirm the reception?
And again sorry for the duplicates, and the test messages.
No lo haré nun
Dear listers,
The American composer Tom Johnson (The Four Note opera, Bonhhoeffer
Oratorium, Nine Bells, Failing) is putting all his music in the public
domain.
As a first step, his collection of articles The Voice of New Music is now
available for download as PDF and Microsoft Word files.
http
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On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, at 10:13 AM, Paul Delcour wrote:
> Thanks for all your kind help Johannes. Since several people
> have reported this should work, I will persevere in finding out
> how to.
>
> I have checked: download all needed fonts (translated from
> Dutch so it may read a bit d
David H. Bailey writes:
> Did you look at whom they were addressed to? That should have answered
> your question right away -- they are messages to the group (so we all
> get them) informing us that somebody tried to post a message that
> contained a virus.
Not necessarily. The only way is t
>>I was wondering ... does everyone get these virus warning thingies or is
>>it just me? <<
I get 'em.
Crystal Premo
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Did you look at whom they were addressed to? That should have answered
your question right away -- they are messages to the group (so we all
get them) informing us that somebody tried to post a message that
contained a virus.
Liontaris LM Flashmane wrote:
> hey all!
> I was wondering .
Thanks for all your kind help Johannes. Since several people have
reported this should work, I will persevere in finding out how to.
I have checked: download all needed fonts (translated from Dutch so it
may read a bit different in an English OS). I then choose: save as file.
Then opening in M
hey all!
I was wondering ... does everyone get these virus warning thingies or is
it just me?
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>
>I suspect this whole issue is like the Mac vs. windows or Open source
>vs. Microsoft, etc. You're either on one side or the other and no
>matter what side you're on, the other side seems blind.
-
I don't know about that, James. I'm just trying to figure this out,
as many are, and trying to
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On 18.06.2002 16:15 Uhr, Paul Delcour wrote
> Hi Johannes,
>
> I got the MacGhostView and the Adobe PDF printerdriver, but no go.
> MacGhostView says it cannot find or cannot open the fotn Petrucci which
> Finale uses to make the noteheads etc. There is something in the docs
> about converting f
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, at 07:35 AM, Javier Ruiz wrote:
> Yes, Philip, that´s what I have used and I am still far to get
> a good PDF
> file. Somehow the crochets (?) of the eighth notes dont fit
> perfectly with
> the stems.
> I have used both Apple and Adobe drivers to make the PS file.
Dear listers,
The American composer Tom Johnson (The Four Note opera, Bonhhoeffer
Oratorium, Nine Bells, Failing) is putting all his music in the public
domain.
As a first step, his collection of articles The Voice of New Music is now
available for download as PDF and Microsoft Word files.
htt
Gracias, Linda, for your long answer.
Now I see that USA (or better said your personal beahviour) is well ahead
compared with Spain in this difficult business/art.
Be sure that in Spain 95% of musicians don´t know what is "work for hire".
The same than all the choir conductors who I know only
Yes, Philip, that´s what I have used and I am still far to get a good PDF
file. Somehow the crochets (?) of the eighth notes don¹t fit perfectly with
the stems.
I have used both Apple and Adobe drivers to make the PS file.
[Absolutely irrelevant, please skip it:
Well, Corea won Italy and now will
Dear listers,
The American composer Tom Johnson (The Four Note opera, Bonhhoeffer
Oratorium, Nine Bells, Failing) is putting all his music in the public
domain.
As a first step, his collection of articles The Voice of New Music is now
available for download as PDF and Microsoft Word files.
htt
Hi Johannes,
I got the MacGhostView and the Adobe PDF printerdriver, but no go.
MacGhostView says it cannot find or cannot open the fotn Petrucci which
Finale uses to make the noteheads etc. There is something in the docs
about converting fonts so that MacGhostView can see them and use them,
>Howard Rigby wrote:
>
>> The pdf's are set up to print exactly the
> > number of copies bought and then the file is useless
My son Steve, who is working on something like this, says that it is
entirely possible to do this, but "rude." He points out that if your
printer jams or there is a p
At 11:50 AM +0100 6/18/02, Javier Ruiz wrote:
>Estimada Linda,
>
>You have said this two times, that you post sound files in your web site.
>But for that you need all the permissions from the performers, and if it is
>an orchestra must be very difficult.
Happy to explain, Javier. This is a long
At 02:55 PM 6/18/02 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>On 18.06.2002 12:31 Uhr, Paul Delcour wrote
>
>> No one should be obliged to give their music away for free. That is
>> indeed my choice. I do not expect anyone to be prepared to pay for it.
>> But current laws state that copyright remains after
Hi all--
Javier Ruiz wrote that all of Tom Johnson's music is now in the public
domain. Johnson's web page says his article anthology is in the public
domain now. All of his music is still being carried by Editions 75!!! There
was NO mention on the site that the music was going in the public doma
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Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] File formats - security anyone?
> Hi all--
>
> Abel wrote: >
> Cecil wrote:> The pdf's are set up to print exactly the
> > number
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap2.html
While not specifically mentioning public domain, it does state:
(d) Transfer of Ownership.-
(1) The ownership of a copyright may be transferred in whole or in part
by any means of conveyance or by operation of law, and may be bequeathed
by will or
On 18.06.2002 12:31 Uhr, Paul Delcour wrote
> No one should be obliged to give their music away for free. That is
> indeed my choice. I do not expect anyone to be prepared to pay for it.
> But current laws state that copyright remains after death of maker for
> 75 years which is stupid.
I don't
On 18.06.2002 12:54 Uhr, Javier Ruiz wrote
> Well, I have got mixed results, so my remark.
>
> But I should give it a try now during my 5 month holiday period.
Here is some additional info for Ghostscript on Mac:
There are two different implementations of Ghostscript for Mac. The one I
use is
At 07:38 AM 6/18/02 -0400, David H. Bailey wrote:
>I don't know how copyright laws work in your country, but you can
>expressly place the music in the public domain in the United States by
>placing a statement to that effect in place of the normal copyright notice.
Can you cite the law on this?
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, at 03:54 AM, Javier Ruiz wrote:
Javier,
What you want is MacGhostView which comes with a scriptable
droplet/application for both OS X and old systems. It is called
"macps2pdf" and puts a wrapper on GhostScript so you don't have
to do anything but drag the PostScrip
On Monday, June 17, 2002, at 11:58 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>> Yes really. I have very little interest in paying to be a
>> concert organizer. I think it's immoral that musicians should
>> have to do so.
> Unfortunately that's the way it very often is these days.
Not a criticism of your p
Hi David,
I was aware of what you stated. So for now, my music is for free, but I
want it clealry stated that I either composed or arranged or wrote the
lyrics. That's all. I will now try out Ghostscript and other ways of
publishing my music on my website. Finally I found at least several
way
On Monday, June 17, 2002, at 07:02 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
> Is anybody getting smaller PDF sizes than me or Linda?
One way to reduce PDF file size is to minimize the number of
fonts and embedded graphics a document contains. Also, data like
pitchbends can take a lot of bytes.
Phili
On Monday, June 17, 2002, at 01:57 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
> The fact that the objects happen to describe musical structures
> is completely irrelevant.
I guess that's why Oracle, Adobe, Apple, Linux, Microsoft, etc.,
etc., all sell great music applications. See the point? If
things were
Yes, simply place the second note as if you were entering a chord and
then use the percent tool and click directly on the ossia notehead and
set it for a smaller reduction.
Eden - Lawrence D. wrote:
> Question: How do I indicate a 1 note ossia part? I am writing a trumpet
> part where I wa
I know I just sent one reply, but I just thought of another --
You can give your music away all you want to and still retain the
copyright on it. So you can place your music on the web for free
distribution if you so choose and still own the copyright. You will
still retain all your rights t
I don't know how copyright laws work in your country, but you can
expressly place the music in the public domain in the United States by
placing a statement to that effect in place of the normal copyright notice.
Also, it is life plus 70 in the U.S., which I had thought was in line
with all th
Question: How do I indicate a 1 note ossia part? I am writing a trumpet
part where I want the player to see the option of playing a different
note. I would like to indicate this in the same measure. Is it possible
to show the ossia note directly under the original note? Can I reduce the
size
Howard Rigby wrote:
> The pdf's are set up to print exactly the
> number of copies bought and then the file is useless
How do you do this?
with regards,
Abel Korzeniowski
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James Gilbert wrote:
> My own answer to the question is to put up PDF files with print and
> the editing encryption turned on. However, the file sizes of PDF's
> compared to MUS are huge.
This is a known Finale2002/2003 PS printing bug, that makes PDFs so large.
Finale 2001 produces very small
Well, I have got mixed results, so my remark.
But I should give it a try now during my 5 month holiday period.
Back to the sofa.
Javier.
> On 17.06.2002 18:06 Uhr, Javier Ruiz wrote
>
>> 2) Ghostcript, the free solution. Also difficult to manage.
>
> It's not really difficult to manage.
>
>
Estimada Linda,
You have said this two times, that you post sound files in your web site.
But for that you need all the permissions from the performers, and if it is
an orchestra must be very difficult.
Am I wrong in this?
(And please don¹t get too angry with me ;)
Javier Ruiz.
> Which is w
Dear listers,
The American composer Tom Johnson (The Four Note opera, Bonhhoeffer
Oratorium, Nine Bells, Failing) is putting all his music in the public
domain.
As a first step, his collection of articles The Voice of New Music is now
available for download as PDF and Microsoft Word files.
http
No one should be obliged to give their music away for free. That is
indeed my choice. I do not expect anyone to be prepared to pay for it.
But current laws state that copyright remains after death of maker for
75 years which is stupid. I feel it should even be gone once my piece is
paid for, b
Craig Parmerlee writes:
> But if "partial measures" is on the
> copied measure is fouled up and I have to fix it manually, even if I
> selected every note and rest in the measure.
The tips site include a tip on how to make sure a full measure is selected
even when Partial Measures is ON.
http
At 9:08 AM 06/18/02, Paul Delcour wrote:
>So, do I deny them my composing
>and arranging skills? No, of course not. Why should I?
If you want to give away your music for free, good for you. That is your
right and we all support you in your choice.
The only objection here is to the implication th
At 7:07 PM 06/17/02, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
> [...] Likewise, the rests should line up on the big
>beats, and the fewer rest symbols the better.
>
> [...] How do
>y'all deal with 12/8 time?
For what it's worth, both as an engraver and as a performer I'm accustomed
to the style that uses quarter
At 9:07 PM 06/17/02, Linda Worsley wrote:
>Nevertheless, I'm also interested in any other numbers people might
>come up with.
My PDFs of Finale files are averaging about 20K per page. That's
piano-vocal music with four systems per page.
I'm using Acrobat 3 (which I inherited from my mother whe
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