On 20.09.2003 18:38 Uhr, Robert Patterson Finale wrote
> First of all, despite the subject heading, I am talking about *system*
> reduction and definitely not individual staff reduction. On a single staff
> piece, the only way to access system reduction is to right click or (mac)
> ctrl-click to t
It is an extremely unusual case that calls for different staff sizes
within a system of an conductor score. An example where it does
happen is the staves for the on-stage bands at the end of Act I of
Don Giovanni. See the Dover edition, pp. 192ff.
--
Robert Patterson
A not-all-that-rare situati
First of all, despite the subject heading, I am talking about *system* reduction and
definitely not individual staff reduction. On a single staff piece, the only way to
access system reduction is to right click or (mac) ctrl-click to the left of the staff
in page view.
I have an edition of The
> From: "Robert Patterson Finale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> We system-reducers have led you page-reducers to water. Will you drink?
I'm just curious about one facet of all this...the example (which has been
mentioned previously) of different pages having different reductions. I am
sensing that this
On the topic of whether to convert old files from page to system, I said I don't
advocate it, and I don't. But if you really wanted to convert, my Page Mover plugin
will do it with a single button-click. (It automatically adjusts all your page text,
too.) The thing is, unless you plan to use sys
Erm.
If you wanted to get the same results as page redux 80% using system redux, then you
would set your page redux to 100% and system redux to 80% (not 75%). The effect on,
e.g., lyrics would be identical. (Their effective size would be the same either way.)
Old habits die hard, I know. Indee
I can't speak for anybody else, but when it comes to page layout, I
trust my eyes more than any math or anything else. And I often mess
around with various percentages such as you list in order for my page to
end up exactly as I think it should look. Most of the time I simply use
page reducti
Richard Huggins wrote:
You've DONE such multiple reductions??
Well, no. I did a score and set of parts (instruments, vocal soloists,
choral and conductors scores) for Handel's Chandos Anthem X, and
explored the situation at that time, learning how the sytem worked.
Once I learned how the situ
At 6:23 PM 09/19/03, Richard Huggins wrote:
>Lyrics on an 80% page with 100% systems would be 80% of 12 points (for
>example), right? (In other words, the 100% system setting does not stop the
>lyrics from being reduced by the page reduction. Or am I wrong?) Return the
>page to 100% they go to ful
You've DONE such multiple reductions?? (Not talking about the math on the
lyrics, etc., talking just about the various reductions). If so, I'd be
interested to know why you would do this.
Thanks for helping me clarify who I am and where I live (in Texas, not in
the state of Confusion)...(:>)
--Ri
Richard Huggins wrote, asking:
Those of you that use system reduction, did you compensate
for [reduction in size of font] this and what size if so.
When planning for the final layout of a work, I always determine
separately from the staff / system / page sizes, what size I want the
lyrics and ot
On Friday, Sep 19, 2003, at 16:36 US/Pacific, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
... and why would you want the title, composer, copyright, etc. to
change size just because you want to resize the music?
Because I expect that besides myself, several other Finalists have
worked out things such that we can chang
> From: Brad Beyenhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> If 12-point lyrics is your preference with 80% page reduction, they
> will be in the same proportion to the staff at 75% system reduction.
Same proportion, yes, but proportion wouldn't be the main concern;
readibility would be. It seems to me that the l
I understand that -- you were suggesting that he had to change all the
page-attached text blocks manually to be the appropriate font size. I
understand the math, but what happens if he then decides he wants the
music larger? If he's using system reduction and he has manually
reduced the page
On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 04:23 PM, Richard Huggins wrote:
Considering lyrics
Lyrics on an 80% page with 100% systems would be 80% of 12 points (for
example), right? (In other words, the 100% system setting does not
stop the
lyrics from being reduced by the page reduction. Or am I w
Considering lyrics
Lyrics on an 80% page with 100% systems would be 80% of 12 points (for
example), right? (In other words, the 100% system setting does not stop the
lyrics from being reduced by the page reduction. Or am I wrong?) Return the
page to 100% they go to full 12 point but reduce the
: [Finale] Page reduction vs. Staff reduction (again!)
Well, this would not have to be done if he had started with system
reduction. The only reason he has to change the sizes of the text is
that he is converting his default file to system reduction. He had
created his default file with font si
Re: [Finale] Page reduction vs. Staff reduction (again!)
>
>
> Well, this would not have to be done if he had started with system
> reduction. The only reason he has to change the sizes of the text is
> that he is converting his default file to system reduction. He had
> created his
I, for one, have never advocated changing old files. I'm talking only about going
forwards.
David H. Bailey wrote:
> So tell me again how that is easier than doing page reduction where all
> that stuff is done automatically?
--
Robert Patterson
http://RobertGPatterson.com
Well, this would not have to be done if he had started with system
reduction. The only reason he has to change the sizes of the text is
that he is converting his default file to system reduction. He had
created his default file with font sizes larger than they should have
been, because the pa
So tell me again how that is easier than doing page reduction where all
that stuff is done automatically?
Richard Huggins wrote:
Not to state the obvious (but going ahead and doing so, in case it benefits
someone else), if I go to system reduction I'll have to reduce the font size
of the page t
On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 08:05 AM, Richard Huggins wrote:
Not to state the obvious (but going ahead and doing so, in case it
benefits
someone else), if I go to system reduction I'll have to reduce the
font size
of the page text blocks by an equal percentage of the page reduction
percen
Not to state the obvious (but going ahead and doing so, in case it benefits
someone else), if I go to system reduction I'll have to reduce the font size
of the page text blocks by an equal percentage of the page reduction
percentage I used to use, if I want the newly-printed music to look similar
t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> You're right ... it was just that for some reason I was reducing the page to
> 76%, and I thought I'd stick to that number. However, you make sense, and I'm
> switching over to 75%.
Also, if you keep the system reduction to 75% (and assuming that you
keep the staff
Thank you ... and I always appreciate the guidance and knowledge that the people on this list unselfishly offer.
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I'm curious why you'd pick 76% instead of 75%. They're so close that one
will hardly notice the difference for looking at it, but 75% makes all the
math much more tidy.
You're right ... it was just that for some reason I was reducing the page to 76%, and I thought I'd stick to that number. However
Page numbers stay where put if you use the placement attribute to place
them at 'top of page' or 'bottom of page' without having them offset
from anything.
I'm beginning to switch over to system reduction from page reduction,
but old habits die hard.
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 18.09.2003 16
On 18.09.2003 16:35 Uhr, Robert Patterson Finale wrote
> The primary advantage is that scaling systems gives you precise control over
> system margins. Also, if you have varying system percentages, your page text
> remains the same size without the need for fixed font attributes. The problem
> wit
At 9:37 AM 09/18/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I know this has been discussed before, but I'm still trying figure out
>whether to use a page reduction (76%?) or staff reduction for my
>piano-vocal scores.
I think the conventional wisdom is that staff reduction is now easier.
Personally, I stick w
The primary advantage is that scaling systems gives you precise control over system
margins. Also, if you have varying system percentages, your page text remains the same
size without the need for fixed font attributes. The problem with fixed font
attributes is that when you want to produce a va
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