Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread A-NO-NE Music
David W. Fenton / 2007/02/05 / 06:46 PM wrote: >You'll see that it starts by defining the offset from Greenwich Mean >Time. My understanding is that a time server supplies either GMT or >GMT plus an offset and your OS uses its time zone rules to figure out >what the local time is. David is rig

Re: [Finale] Drum Set parts redux

2007-02-05 Thread Carl Dershem
Christopher Smith wrote: On 5-Feb-07, at 8:50 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: Layer 1, stems up, above the staff - 1st space above ("X" notehead) for closed hi-hat, 1st ledger line above ("X" notehead) for open hat or crash. Two points here (not to jump down your throat or anything!) I find

Re: [Finale] [OT] etymological origin of royalties?

2007-02-05 Thread John Howell
At 12:34 AM +0100 2/6/07, shirling & neueweise wrote: Au contraire! Petrucci, in Venice, held a monopoly lasting 20 years on the printing of part music and lute tablature, with his first print ("Odhecaton A") appearing in 1501. And I think it was Tallis and his student, Byrd, who had Liz's mo

Re: [Finale] long URLs

2007-02-05 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 5, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: I don't want to get into yet another platform/application war. But Phil's URL was not wrapped by the listserv, because it showed up just fine in my Eudora for Windows. I know that using angle brackets doesn't work in *all* email clients,

Re: [Finale] Music theory

2007-02-05 Thread Bruce K H Kau
Will Denayer wrote: Music Theory, maybe throughout history, is and was always a result of analizing, ... Ah, yes. I've always thought this was true. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 5, 2007, at 8:17 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: No, it's because if you apply the doubling rules in four-part traditional harmony *it sounds better* (smoother, more homogeneous) than if you don't. It's not a matter of arbitrary rules at all. This, I think, is the most pertinent answer in th

Re: [Finale] Drum Set parts redux

2007-02-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On 5-Feb-07, at 8:50 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: Layer 1, stems up, above the staff - 1st space above ("X" notehead) for closed hi-hat, 1st ledger line above ("X" notehead) for open hat or crash. Two points here (not to jump down your throat or anything!) I find that notating open and close

Re: [Finale] TAN: Audacity

2007-02-05 Thread Gerald Berg
The file should be AIFF. But... Load Audacity and look under "Project' It has the' upload file type' choices. Jerry Gerald Berg On 5-Feb-07, at 5:21 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On 5-Feb-07, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: OK, I downloaded Audacity and read the manual. But when I go

Re: [Finale] National Complex, was: Drum Set parts redux

2007-02-05 Thread Randolph Peters
I wrote: (Note to our American cousins: Canadians want to be thought of as being distinct, unless it is to our advantage to not be thought of that way. Assuming you think of us at all.) Christopher Smith replied: Oh now, that last sentence just sums up how pathetic we Canadians really are! I

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 6:46 PM -0500 2/5/07, David W. Fenton wrote: I have my Mac's clock set to automatically sync to Apple's > clock server. When it trips over into DST, so will my computer. Or > at least I think that's what will happen... I have a MacBook Pro running OS 10.4.8. I set the clock to be adjus

Re: [Finale] Drum Set parts redux

2007-02-05 Thread Carl Dershem
shirling & neueweise wrote: 1 - upstem notes 2 - downstem notes 3 - slash notation 4 - cues Basically what I use, though layer 4 has not been used so far. out of curiosity, in jazz notation, what is standard for say cymbal notation, with nothing else (no BD or whatever), would you still nota

RE: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread Lee Actor
> >But if it is set up for streaming, all you'll end up downloading is > >the file that points to the source file (this is another way to > >circumvent streaming, BTW). > > but the file is on your HD if you know how to find it. i recently > found out because some people had sent me mp3 links to th

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:29 PM 2/5/2007 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote: >Not in a complete format. Real streaming (not Real(tm)) writes only a >small part of the file at a time to the hard drive. Yes, you can >capture the real-time playback, but there is no complete file >downloaded for you to save from your browser

[Finale] Music theory

2007-02-05 Thread Will Denayer
Music Theory, maybe throughout history, is and was always a result of analizing, closely watching at and listening to what other people already *did*. A rule did not neccessarily apply to them, as theory was always sort of later than the actual works theory dealt with. So what is does is to af

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Feb 2007 at 2:16, shirling & neueweise wrote: [quoting me:] > >But if it is set up for streaming, all you'll end up downloading is > >the file that points to the source file (this is another way to > >circumvent streaming, BTW). > > but the file is on your HD if you know how to find it. No

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread shirling & neueweise
But if it is set up for streaming, all you'll end up downloading is the file that points to the source file (this is another way to circumvent streaming, BTW). but the file is on your HD if you know how to find it. i recently found out because some people had sent me mp3 links to their webs

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 17:58, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Not so. In your web browser, you can just right-click (or control- > click) on any MP3 link and choose "Download Linked File." > > You only need QuickTime Pro to save the file from inside the > QuickTime Player interface, but there's nothing st

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Chris, Not so. In your web browser, you can just right-click (or control- click) on any MP3 link and choose "Download Linked File." You only need QuickTime Pro to save the file from inside the QuickTime Player interface, but there's nothing stopping you from downloading the MP3 from your w

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 18:31, Neal Gittleman wrote: > My guess (and it's only that) is that for most Mac users it won't be > an issue. I have my Mac's clock set to automatically sync to Apple's > clock server. When it trips over into DST, so will my computer. Or > at least I think that's what will

Re: [Finale] Piano Bracket

2007-02-05 Thread shirling & neueweise
Yes, you can do that -- you create a group of those two staves and select whichever bracket you want -- in your case it would be the piano bracket. although i'm not sure this is the right bracket for the job... unless 2 staves for the same guitar, and even then i would not use the piano bra

Re: [Finale] [OT] etymological origin of royalties?

2007-02-05 Thread shirling & neueweise
Au contraire! Petrucci, in Venice, held a monopoly lasting 20 years on the printing of part music and lute tablature, with his first print ("Odhecaton A") appearing in 1501. And I think it was Tallis and his student, Byrd, who had Liz's monopoly on the printing of music and music paper, lat

Re: [Finale] Piano Bracket

2007-02-05 Thread dhbailey
George Ports wrote: Is there a way to put a piano bracket connecting two guitar (single staves)? These are not piano staveswill that make a difference? I have winfin2006b. Thanks, Yes, you can do that -- you create a group of those two staves and select whichever bracket you want --

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread Neal Gittleman
My guess (and it's only that) is that for most Mac users it won't be an issue. I have my Mac's clock set to automatically sync to Apple's clock server. When it trips over into DST, so will my computer. Or at least I think that's what will happen... ng

[Finale] Re: DP quickscribe into Finale

2007-02-05 Thread Michael Good
Hi Matthew, I'm sorry to hear about your negative first experience with PDFtoMusic Pro. Was the PDF created in DP, Mosaic, or another program? PDFtoMusic Pro does have some issues with layer assignment, but I haven't seen the other issues that you mention as more than an occasional error. If you

[Finale] Piano Bracket

2007-02-05 Thread George Ports
Is there a way to put a piano bracket connecting two guitar (single staves)? These are not piano staveswill that make a difference? I have winfin2006b. Thanks, George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/li

Re: [Finale] student vs. academic vs. regular version

2007-02-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On 5-Feb-07, at 3:36 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 02:49 PM 2/5/2007, Martin Banner wrote: >I have a former student who is now teaching in a public school. He >wanted to know what the differences are in a regular (full) version of >Finale, vs. buying a student version or academic version. Are t

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On 5-Feb-07, at 3:50 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Is this a Windows thing? On Macs, if your web browser is set to use QuickTime, playback of an MP3 file automatically begins as soon as QuickTime thinks it can complete the file without interruption. In other words, *every* MP3 you click on

Re: [Finale] TAN: Audacity

2007-02-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On 5-Feb-07, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: OK, I downloaded Audacity and read the manual. But when I go to open one of my MP3 files, the program tells me both that it can't read the file type *and* that the file doesn't exist! Help? Did you also download the optional LAME Mp3 encoder

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread shirling & neueweise
This brings up another point. Andrii Didorenko is a world-class virtuoso, and the MP3 of his piano trio is absolutely of commercial quality, though he himself thinks it's "not very good." He knows I'm going to put it up on my site, but I don't think he's thought of the possibility that people

Re: [Finale] TAN: Audacity

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 16:56, Andrew Stiller wrote: > OK, I downloaded Audacity and read the manual. But when I go to open > one of my MP3 files, the program tells me both that it can't read the > file type *and* that the file doesn't exist! I've never had any difficulty on Windows opening MP3 files. M

[Finale] TAN: Audacity

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
OK, I downloaded Audacity and read the manual. But when I go to open one of my MP3 files, the program tells me both that it can't read the file type *and* that the file doesn't exist! Help? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ _

RE: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread Lee Actor
> Is this a Windows thing? On Macs, if your web browser is set to use > QuickTime, playback of an MP3 file automatically begins as soon as > QuickTime thinks it can complete the file without interruption. In > other words, *every* MP3 you click on in a web browser is streaming > (by default). If yo

Re: [Finale] Drum Set parts redux

2007-02-05 Thread shirling & neueweise
ah yes i was thinking the all or nothing route. and you're talking about cues... nevermind. It seems hands are always stems up and feet are always stems down, regardless of whether there are notes in the other layers or not. naturally: o o | | \O/ | | / \ | | _ _ -- shir

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 15:50, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Is this a Windows thing? On Macs, if your web browser is set to use > QuickTime, playback of an MP3 file automatically begins as soon as > QuickTime thinks it can complete the file without interruption. In > other words, *every* MP3 you click o

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Is this a Windows thing? On Macs, if your web browser is set to use QuickTime, playback of an MP3 file automatically begins as soon as QuickTime thinks it can complete the file without interruption. In other words, *every* MP3 you click on in a web browser is streaming (by default). If you

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread dhbailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:10 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: No MP3 of a full work is small enough for a dialup listener, in my opinion. For downloading, certainly--but for mere playback? I myself only got DSL about a month ago, and prior to that I can't recall any difficulty

Re: [Finale] student vs. academic vs. regular version

2007-02-05 Thread dhbailey
Martin Banner wrote: I have a former student who is now teaching in a public school. He wanted to know what the differences are in a regular (full) version of Finale, vs. buying a student version or academic version. Are they all full feature versions of Finale, or are the academic and/or stude

Re: [Finale] student vs. academic vs. regular version

2007-02-05 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:49 PM 2/5/2007, Martin Banner wrote: >I have a former student who is now teaching in a public school. He >wanted to know what the differences are in a regular (full) version of >Finale, vs. buying a student version or academic version. Are they all >full feature versions of Finale, or are th

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 15:27, Andrew Stiller wrote: > On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:10 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > No MP3 of a full work is small enough for a dialup listener, in my > > opinion. > > For downloading, certainly--but for mere playback? That's the difference between downloadn and *streaming

Re: [Finale] student vs. academic vs. regular version

2007-02-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
There is no "academic version" -- there is only an academic discount on the full version. The product is identical. Most third-party retailers offer a better price than MakeMusic. (You can still get the academic discount from third-party retailers.) Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] student vs. academic vs. regular version

2007-02-05 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
As far as I know they are identical except for the price tag. All the best, Lawrence lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

[Finale] student vs. academic vs. regular version

2007-02-05 Thread Martin Banner
I have a former student who is now teaching in a public school. He wanted to know what the differences are in a regular (full) version of Finale, vs. buying a student version or academic version. Are they all full feature versions of Finale, or are the academic and/or student versions somewhat

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:10 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: No MP3 of a full work is small enough for a dialup listener, in my opinion. For downloading, certainly--but for mere playback? I myself only got DSL about a month ago, and prior to that I can't recall any difficulty playing back online MP

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 14:29, Christopher Smith wrote: > On 5-Feb-07, at 11:17 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > >> Minor thirds could be doubled, at least, more so than major thirds. > >> In most cases, it is the bass note that gets doubled most of the > >> time (first inversion being a notable exception

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:17 PM 2/5/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: >No, they contain instructions to download the TZEDIT program, which >gives you a GUI to change the date of the time change. Yes, you're right. My point was that there's not a specific patch the way there is for XP -- download, double-click, and you'r

Re: [Finale] Drum Set parts redux

2007-02-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On 5-Feb-07, at 12:37 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I know this is off topic, but as a fellow Canadian, I've often wondered what the metric version of the word "mileage" should be. I assume the K in YKMV means kilometerage. Is that even a word? How about meterage? In which case it would stil

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:51 PM 2/5/2007 -0500, dhbailey wrote: >The only way to guarantee that something won't be ripped off is to not >put it on line. Period. You made me chuckle. Though the technology discussed is out of date, my essay from ten years ago had about the same things to say

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On 5-Feb-07, at 11:17 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Minor thirds could be doubled, at least, more so than major thirds. In most cases, it is the bass note that gets doubled most of the time (first inversion being a notable exception) but the needs of voice leading can cause some rarer note to be d

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 13:13, Aaron Sherber wrote: > At 12:54 PM 2/5/2007, Phil Daley wrote: > >Windows update only works for WinXP SP2 as far as I know. (Well, > and Vista) > > Win2000 has it as well. I don't know about earlier OSes; I would guess > not. > > However, Win2000 and earlier have reach

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 13:46, Aaron Sherber wrote: > At 01:25 PM 2/5/2007, A-NO-NE Music wrote: > >Aaron Sherber / 2007/02/05 / 01:13 PM wrote: > > > >>Win2000 has it as well. I don't know about earlier OSes; I would > guess not. > >Windows Update as in go fetching the list of new > patches? >

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 12:54, Phil Daley wrote: > At 2/5/2007 12:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > >But for Windows users, it takes about 30 seconds of Googling to find > >the patch for it: > > Windows update only works for WinXP SP2 as far as I know. (Well, and > Vista) What are you talking about

Re: [Finale] [OT] etymological origin of royalties?

2007-02-05 Thread John Howell
At 7:49 PM +0100 2/5/07, shirling & neueweise wrote: interesting, if what you suggest were the case, then the first payment originally went in the other direction (!), to secure the rights of exclusive exploitation for the rights holder for a defined time period. this was certainly typical f

Re: [Finale] [OT] etymological origin of royalties?

2007-02-05 Thread shirling & neueweise
I've never thought about this, actually, but isn't it more likely to go back to royal privileges (i.e. monopolies) and the bribes necessary to secure same? yeah, i thought there should be some connection to the court, but so far nothing backs it up. interesting, if what you suggest were t

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Robert Lingnau / 2007/02/05 / 01:17 PM wrote: >Music Theory, maybe throughout history, is and was always a result of >analizing, closely watching at and listening to what other people >already *did*. A rule did not neccessarily apply to them, as theory >was always sort of later than the actual wor

Re: [Finale] Drum Set parts redux

2007-02-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On 5-Feb-07, at 12:43 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: If you keep cues in Layer 1, then you HAVE to have something in another layer for the stems to flip up, with all due respect sir, that's a lie, that's an outright lie! you can do the same in any layer. Well, I know I CAN do it, but

Re: [Finale] Page margins

2007-02-05 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: I have a certain number of files I want to print out together in a single PDF. The right and left page margins are different. So when a piece starts on a left page instead of a right page, I added a blank page to make the first page of music a right page. But this trick doesn't seem

Re: [Finale] Home Editions Of Windows Vista Won't Run On Mac Or Linux Virtual Machines

2007-02-05 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Ok. So?? I have Windows XP running under Parallels on my iMac for Band in a Box 2007. It works fine. I have no intention of running Vista anytime soon..if at all. Phil Daley wrote: The end-user license agreements specifically forbid users from booting the software "within a virtual (

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread dhbailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: On Feb 4, 2007, at 6:51 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: if there is a link beside the mp3 link to buy the album (for example), then 128 (or even lower) as only an example of the artist's work may be fine, and, who knows, may even discourage some from making the extra eff

Re: [Finale] Drum Set parts redux: Now kilometerage

2007-02-05 Thread Wade KOTTER
Just for fun, I just checked the Oxford English Dictionary. Meterage is defined as a noun similar to mileage, but kilometerage is not listed, although it makes perfect sense to me. Wade >>> On 2/5/2007 at 10:37 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Randolph Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:25 PM 2/5/2007, A-NO-NE Music wrote: >Aaron Sherber / 2007/02/05 / 01:13 PM wrote: > >>Win2000 has it as well. I don't know about earlier OSes; I would guess not. > >Windows Update as in go fetching the list of new patches?  I know the Windows Update website has been around for a long tim

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Aaron Sherber / 2007/02/05 / 01:13 PM wrote: >Win2000 has it as well. I don't know about earlier OSes; I would guess not. Windows Update as in go fetching the list of new patches? It has been around since the birth of Win98. When they came out with it, they even supported Win95_SR2 if I remembe

Re: [Finale] [OT] etymological origin of royalties?

2007-02-05 Thread John Howell
At 3:04 PM +0100 2/5/07, shirling & neueweise wrote: anyone know where the word originates? i'm wondering if it has to do with the private and quasi-private "public" concerts held in aristocractic-supported subscription series common in the late 18th and early 19th c. where collections would be

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread Robert Lingnau
Hello @ all, first of all, let me introduce myself. I'm new to this list. I live in Berlin, Germany, and pay my rent by working as an arranger / composer and lecturer. I recently switched programs, so now I'm a Finale user. I subscribed a couple of days ago to this list and just wanted to add my

Re(2): [Finale] long URLs

2007-02-05 Thread Leigh Daniels
There is always which has a handy Widget for the Mac Dashboard and a button for Windows browsers' toolbar. **Leigh On Mon, Feb 5, 2007, Aaron Sherber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 12:34 PM 2/5/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: > >And, BTW, your URL came through word-wra

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Phil Daley / 2007/02/05 / 12:30 PM wrote: >I have no idea what this means to Mac users. The patch is already created. I saw at ADC, but they haven't published yet as far as I know. Anyway, there will be a patch for Mac before too late :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, M

Re: [Finale] Page margins

2007-02-05 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On 2/5/07, dc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a certain number of files I want to print out together in a single PDF. The right and left page margins are different. So when a piece starts on a left page instead of a right page, I added a blank page to make the first page of music a right page.

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:54 PM 2/5/2007, Phil Daley wrote: >Windows update only works for WinXP SP2 as far as I know. (Well, and Vista) Win2000 has it as well. I don't know about earlier OSes; I would guess not. However, Win2000 and earlier have reached the end of direct support by MS, and I don't think MS will

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread A-NO-NE Music
dhbailey / 2007/02/05 / 11:55 AM wrote: >How can you tell on first hearing if it's "creative" or if it's "wrong?" When someone played a wrong note by accident, you can hear that. It does with how it was played. >I've heard the advice given to new jazz improvisers that if they hit a >wrong note

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread shirling & neueweise
I have no idea what this means to Mac users. interesting... only in the states though it seems, so it means nothing to this mac user. perhaps computers sold since 2005 have this integrated...? http://www.energy.ca.gov/daylightsaving.html Beginning in 2007, Daylight Saving Time is extended

Re: [Finale] long URLs

2007-02-05 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:34 PM 2/5/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: >And, BTW, your URL came through word-wrapped, too -- I think it's >being wrapped by the listserv in addition to what our email clients >may be doing. I don't want to get into yet another platform/application war. But Phil's URL was not wrapped by th

Re: [Finale] long URLs

2007-02-05 Thread Phil Daley
At 2/5/2007 12:34 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: >And, BTW, your URL came through word-wrapped, too -- I think it's >being wrapped by the listserv in addition to what our email clients >may be doing. I suspect that is your email client problem. It came through to me unwrapped. Phil Daley

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread Phil Daley
At 2/5/2007 12:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: >But for Windows users, it takes about 30 seconds of Googling to find >the patch for it: Windows update only works for WinXP SP2 as far as I know. (Well, and Vista) An update is useless for anyone running anything earlier than that. Phil Daley

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 4, 2007, at 6:51 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: if there is a link beside the mp3 link to buy the album (for example), then 128 (or even lower) as only an example of the artist's work may be fine, and, who knows, may even discourage some from making the extra effort to rip because of t

Re: [Finale] Drum Set parts redux

2007-02-05 Thread shirling & neueweise
If you keep cues in Layer 1, then you HAVE to have something in another layer for the stems to flip up, with all due respect sir, that's a lie, that's an outright lie! you can do the same in any layer. i rarely make drumset parts, but would agree with keeping music, not slashes, in layer 1,

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 12:30, Phil Daley wrote: > At 2/5/2007 11:21 AM, kim h wrote: > > >Daylight saving marches forward to March > >Daylight saving time begins a month earlier than usual > > I read this in the Sunday papers. > > To a normal Windows user there will be 2 minor problems. > > 1. The

Re: [Finale] Drum Set parts redux

2007-02-05 Thread Randolph Peters
Christopher Smith wrote: I also have no problem hitting Shift-Arrow to change layers. It is second nature to me now. YKMV. I know this is off topic, but as a fellow Canadian, I've often wondered what the metric version of the word "mileage" should be. I assume the K in YKMV means kilometerag

Re: [Finale] long URLs

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 12:19, Phil Daley wrote: > At 2/5/2007 11:06 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > >There's a crisis brewing in EULAs, as this article by Cory Doctorow > >explains (all on one line, no spaces): > > >http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=197 > 00 >3052 > >

[Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-05 Thread Phil Daley
At 2/5/2007 11:21 AM, kim h wrote: Daylight saving marches forward to March Daylight saving time begins a month earlier than usual I read this in the Sunday papers. To a normal Windows user there will be 2 minor problems. 1. The normal "Daylight time has arrived, do you want to update your

[Finale] long URLs

2007-02-05 Thread Phil Daley
At 2/5/2007 11:06 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: >There's a crisis brewing in EULAs, as this article by Cory Doctorow >explains (all on one line, no spaces): > >http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19700 >3052

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread Aaron Rabushka
One of my former band directors used to say "never apologize on a horn." "Correct" is for theory homework, not for composing real music. People who think that it's hard to learn the rules of classroom theory get even more mindboggled by trying to create cogency outside the rules. Aaron J. Rabushka

Re: [Finale] Drum Set parts redux

2007-02-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On 3-Feb-07, at 10:43 AM, Carl Dershem wrote: After Bob Florence's questions of a couple of weeks ago, I began to do a bit of experimenting and goofing around with drum set notation, and have made a major change to the way I work which may (r may not) work as well for those of you who do d

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread dhbailey
A-NO-NE Music wrote: Aaron Rabushka / 2007/02/05 / 01:49 AM wrote: The "no doubling of the leading note" comes from the necessity of the leading tone to go straight up to the tonic. Therefor, a doubled leading tone would result in parallel octaves. Ooops. This is pretty much a D'oh factor. T

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Feb 2007 at 20:44, Christopher Smith wrote: > On Feb 4, 2007, at 8:11 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: > > > Sorry for OT question, but I can't think of any better place to ask > > this. Kinda embarrassed to ask. Please go easy on me. I did google > > around but couldn't find anything helpful. >

Re: [Finale] Home Editions Of Windows Vista Won't Run On Mac Or Linux Virtual Machines

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 6:40, dhbailey wrote: > It would be interesting to see how restrictive the end-user license is > legally allowed to be. I can see the legality of forcing a person to > install and use an application or an OS on one machine, but the > legality of enforcing what sort of machine tha

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 6:25, dhbailey wrote: > One important thing for Andrew to remember in deciding what to do with > the audio stuff is that not everybody is on broadband and that the > audio file should be small enough to be fairly reasonable for modem > users or folks who have to pay by the minute

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 6:30, dhbailey wrote: > There are huge areas of reasonably > well-populated areas of the U.S. that don't even have DSL as an > option, and absolutely no cable access. I'm sure the same is true in > Europe and Japan. But of course not where the computer pundits and > major compu

Re: [Finale] Home Editions Of Windows Vista Won't Run On Mac Or Linux Virtual Machines

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 6:05, Phil Daley wrote: > The end-user license agreements specifically forbid users from booting > the software "within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware > system," Microsoft says. By Paul McDougallInformationWeekFeb > 2, 2007 01:15 PM > > Mac owners and Linux us

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Aaron Rabushka / 2007/02/05 / 01:49 AM wrote: >The "no doubling of the leading note" comes from the necessity of the >leading tone to go straight up to the tonic. Therefor, a doubled leading >tone would result in parallel octaves. Ooops. This is pretty much a D'oh factor. Thanks for pointing thi

Re: [Finale] [OT] etymological origin of royalties?

2007-02-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:04 PM 2/5/2007 +0100, shirling & neueweise wrote: >anyone know where the word originates? i'm wondering if it has to do >with the private and quasi-private "public" concerts held in >aristocractic-supported subscription series common in the late 18th >and early 19th c. where collections wo

[Finale] [OT] etymological origin of royalties?

2007-02-05 Thread shirling & neueweise
anyone know where the word originates? i'm wondering if it has to do with the private and quasi-private "public" concerts held in aristocractic-supported subscription series common in the late 18th and early 19th c. where collections would be made for the composer from the audience members.

[Finale] Re: DP quickscribe into Finale

2007-02-05 Thread Matthew Hindson fastmail acct
Michael Good wrote: Recordare has just released version 3.6 of Dolet for Finale to improve the import of MusicXML files from PDFtoMusic Pro. System breaks in particular will work better with Dolet 3 for Finale than the built-in MusicXML in Finale 2007. Thanks for this Michael, it's very good

Re: [Finale] Home Editions Of Windows Vista Won't Run On Mac Or Linux Virtual Machines

2007-02-05 Thread dhbailey
Phil Daley wrote: The end-user license agreements specifically forbid users from booting the software "within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system," Microsoft says. By Paul McDougallInformationWeekFeb 2, 2007 01:15 PM Mac owners and Linux users hoping to run Windows Vista

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread dhbailey
shirling & neueweise wrote: [snip]> the idea that (for example) in 3-5 yrs everyone on the planet is going to have some sort of mega-broadband is - despite massive and rapid technological changes in recent years - nothing more than euro/americo/japanico-centric arrogance and fairly completely i

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread dhbailey
Daniel Wolf wrote: At 08:11 PM 2/4/2007 -0500, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I remember, in traditional harmony, you are not supposed to double the 3rd, but I don't remember what is the reason for this. Voice leading (specifically, to avoid parallel octaves), and to some extent intonation (th

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 5, 2007, at 3:06 AM, Daniel Wolf wrote: At 08:11 PM 2/4/2007 -0500, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I remember, in traditional harmony, you are not supposed to double the 3rd, but I don't remember what is the reason for this. Voice leading (specifically, to avoid parallel octaves), and to

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Rabushka wrote: Yep, theory homework is one animal, real music is another. I do remember something (probably from Hindemith's harmony book) about it's being permissible to double the third of a minor triad whereas it was forbidden to double the third of a major triad. I remember being ecsta

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread dhbailey
shirling & neueweise wrote: i too find 192 the minimum for listening (128 i find actually painful to listen to for more than brief periods), but it depends on your intentions with the mp3s. if there is a link beside the mp3 link to buy the album (for example), then 128 (or even lower) as onl

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-05 Thread dhbailey
Kim Patrick Clow wrote: On 2/4/07, dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anything which can make it to the soundcard can be recorded, so preventing the actual downloading of an audio file won't prevent people from pirating it. That's very true, But Vista was going to prevent capturing sound v

[Finale] Home Editions Of Windows Vista Won't Run On Mac Or Linux Virtual Machines

2007-02-05 Thread Phil Daley
The end-user license agreements specifically forbid users from booting the software "within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system," Microsoft says. By Paul McDougallInformationWeekFeb 2, 2007 01:15 PM Mac owners and Linux users hoping to run Windows Vista using virtual mach

Re: [Finale] OT: A dumb question

2007-02-05 Thread Daniel Wolf
At 08:11 PM 2/4/2007 -0500, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I remember, in traditional harmony, you are not supposed to double the 3rd, but I don't remember what is the reason for this. Voice leading (specifically, to avoid parallel octaves), and to some extent intonation (the precise intonatio

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