On Jul 2, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Karen wrote:
Try a Google search on "31 characters hex filename" I found this
for you when I did that search:
http://www.macworld.com/forums/ubbthreads/showflat.php?
Cat=0&Number=498611&Main=497508
Karen,
As usual, you went far beyond the call of duty to h
>
> Perhaps so; I don't know how much training in harmonics a
> violinist gets compared to, say, a guitarist, whose scores
> are littered with harmonics. In looking at your Britten
> example, I can see which strings those harmonics might fall
> on for greatest volume, if only because of knowi
On Jul 2, 2007, at 11:45 PM, Will Denayer wrote:
'You need to setup the transposition properly for a double bass staff.
Set the transposition to be Up Octave, then use mass mover to
transpose
the whole staff down an octave. You will get the lower octave for
playback sound since that's the "
On Jul 2, 2007, at 12:23 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Christopher Smith / 2007/07/02 / 11:32 AM wrote:
Well, really, ALL extensions are actually suspensions that we just
decided didn't need to resolve. Having the note of resolution present
at the same time as the suspension just makes it an added
On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:46 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 01:45 PM 7/2/2007 -0400, dhbailey wrote:
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
David,
Good sequence of questions...
[snip]>
Argh.
One final thought -- either pay your trombone player more or give him
higher billing in the credits. Tromb
Seriously. Thumbs DOWN on this version. Nothing compelling for me to
spend the money on. I'll save it and get an iPhone or something ;-)
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
It seems so, and if you ask me, it seems to be an "update lite", too.
Weren't we all waiting to see the linked parts feature improved?
'You need to setup the transposition properly for a double bass staff.
Set the transposition to be Up Octave, then use mass mover to transpose
the whole staff down an octave. You will get the lower octave for
playback sound since that's the "real" data, and you'll see the music
an octave higher
At 01:45 PM 7/2/2007 -0400, dhbailey wrote:
>Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>> David,
>>
>> Good sequence of questions...
>>
>[snip]>
>> Argh.
>>
>
>One final thought -- either pay your trombone player more or give him
>higher billing in the credits. Trombonists can be so touchy sometimes! ;-)
At 12:20 AM 7/3/2007 +0100, Owain Sutton wrote:
>How about when a harmonic can be produced either as a natural harmonic
>or an artificial one - if a composer prefers the timbre of one over the
>other, which we can hopefully agree is a major difference, why not
>notate it as such?
If there is, and
My employer provides my email and informs me that it's HTML or nothing. This is
Outlook Web Access.
From: David W. Fenton
Sent: Mon 02-Jul-07 17:36
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: RE: [Finale] Semi-OT: Attachments are back in my posts
On 1 Jul 2007 at 8:53, Carlberg Jones wrote:
> I received fo
>
> Back in the early 1990s, I had an orchestral piece performed
> where the concertmaster changed a whole group of critical
> bowings without consulting me. Why? It "sounded better" and
> was "easier on the players' muscles". Hoo-boy. Almost as bad
> as the pianist who said she'd injure her
At 04:11 PM 7/2/2007 -0500, Randolph Peters wrote:
>It is a little confusing. All of the sample players that work are
>based on Native Instruments Kontakt engine. The capabilities vary
>from player to player and they don't produce identical results.
[...]
Thanks for that info. It is confusing!
Hi Christopher,
Try to keep file names short when naming files in apps that seem
to change to the hex name with longer file names (now we perhaps
know which programs are still getting caught with their shorts
down huh?)
Bwhaa! (spit tea all over my screen again! Bad, BAD Finale lister!
At 04:37 PM 7/2/2007 -0400, John Howell wrote:
>Touchy, touchy!!! ;-)
You know that was almost all for you. :)
>I've commented before (on
>this list, I think), so I'll simply repeat what
>I've said. You put in bowings THAT WORK and they
>will not change them. It takes an experienced
>player
On 1 Jul 2007 at 8:53, Carlberg Jones wrote:
> I received four posts from Jim Williams today. The first, third and
> fourth had attachments.
>
> The first message - msg-4190-1681.txt, the third message -
> msg-6999-3031.txt, the fourth - msg-8335-2391.txt.
The messages that had an attachment we
I just checked the MAKEMUSIC website, and I have a tracking number for my
order for 2008.
As a nearly 20-year user of FINALE, I cannot say my anticpation is free of
anxiety;-(
Henry Howey
Professor of Music
Sam Houston State University
Box 2208
Huntsville, TX 77341
(936) 294-1364
http
At 03:11 PM 7/2/2007, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
>bug fixes under the hood. Although my hopes are, really, really low. I
>have certain reasons for this, have to do with certain "restructuring" I
> recently found out about.
Can you be more specific about that?
Aaron.
On 02.07.2007 Colin Broom wrote:
Isn't it earlier than usual?
It seems so, and if you ask me, it seems to be an "update lite", too.
Weren't we all waiting to see the linked parts feature improved?
Unlinkable hairpins? Better handling of cue notes?
I don't know what others feel, but I really
At 03:41 PM 7/2/2007 -0500, Randolph Peters wrote:
>There is an interesting demonstration in the official Finale list
>about how to do multiple simultaneous tempos and meters:
>http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=6&m=192341
>Hint: the trick involves overlapping multiple systems.
The trouble
Randolph Peters wrote:
>Do you get the same results by using different sample players? (I
don't know if you have access to NI's Kontakt 2, but it might give
>different results than Garritan.)
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
Ack. I take it these aren't the same. The settings in HP all talk abou
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randolph Peters
> Sent: 02 July 2007 21:41
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: [Finale] multiple simultaneous meters and tempos
>
>
> There is an interesting demonstration in the official Finale list
I do use Sibelius, primarily, but also use Finale. I have not updated
Finale since 2005. I really need to but passed up last year because of
the complaints. I hear of lots of improvements. I hope 2008 is/becomes
stable enough to use. The yearly upgrade (subscription?) cycle is not
serving Final
There is an interesting demonstration in the official Finale list
about how to do multiple simultaneous tempos and meters:
http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=6&m=192341
Hint: the trick involves overlapping multiple systems.
-Randolph Peters
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At 2:41 PM -0400 7/2/07, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 02:24 PM 7/2/2007 -0400, John Howell wrote:
The problem with that method
is that it leaves it entirely up to the player to figure out how and
where to finger the harmonic.
Exactly. That's what I do.
You put in bowings, they change them.
At 01:50 PM 7/2/2007 -0500, Randolph Peters wrote:
>Do you get the same results by using different sample players? (I
>don't know if you have access to NI's Kontakt 2, but it might give
>different results than Garritan.)
Ack. I take it these aren't the same. The settings in HP all talk about
Gar
>
> On Jul 2, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Owain Sutton wrote:
> >
> > In fact, one of the contexts I was thinking of where
> natural harmonics
> > are best notated with diamond noteheads is in the Ravel
> quartet, with
> > slurs across all four strings of each instrument, with various
> > harmonics on
I don't see ANYTHING in this list of fixes that mentions anything about
the hyphen problem being fixed.
Martin
On Jul 2, 2007, at 3:06 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 02:36 PM 7/2/2007, dc wrote:
>But when will they spill the beans on the bugs that have been fixed.
And
>those that haven't...
Aaron Sherber wrote:
http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=5&m=194009
Please note that this list almost certainly is not exhaustive.
Aaron.
Finale 2008 is already shipping. Carla from MM posted the relevant
section from the ReadMe file about new features and fixes (thanks for
the link):
Here's the list of new features and fixes that was posted on Final
Forums. I don't see anything about "hyphens"!
Mike Greensill
www.mikegreensill.com
Finale 2008 ReadMe excerpt
The complete ReadMe will be available for download. Please see below
for a list of new features and fixes found i
At 11:46 AM -0400 7/2/07, Christopher Smith wrote:
However, Hiro brings up the point that most jazz musicians like to
think of chord scales as originating from the bass note, NOT from
the parent key, which I recognized as well, which is why I wanted to
supply a name starting on G if at all po
There really should be a boycott movement for them. I don't use
Sibelius, but at least they were upfront in saying what was new and what
had been fixed.
I imagine that also, as was the case in the last version, if you use
SmartMusic, and want to create exercises, that files generated from 2008
At 02:36 PM 7/2/2007, dc wrote:
>But when will they spill the beans on the bugs that have been fixed. And
>those that haven't...
http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=5&m=194009
Please note that this list almost certainly is not exhaustive.
Aaron.
Colin Broom wrote:
http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/home.aspx
Isn't it earlier than usual?
Yes, and it's mighty fast, as I just placed my upgrade on Saturday (June
30) and was told via e-mail reply that it expected to ship in early July.
If it's really shipping, that is. It may still be
dc wrote:
Colin Broom écrit:
Isn't it earlier than usual?
But when will they spill the beans on the bugs that have been fixed. And
those that haven't...
I find it pretty irritating that after waiting in vain for 2007a, 2007b,
2007c to fix the hyphen bug they won't even tell us if it is fix
On Jul 2, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Owain Sutton wrote:
In fact, one of the contexts I was thinking of where natural harmonics
are best notated with diamond noteheads is in the Ravel quartet, with
slurs across all four strings of each instrument, with various
harmonics
on the different strings.
To
I just watched the Flash movie about 08's new features/improvements.
I am really steaming.
*I* was working on a surprise hit, "Four Coins in a Fountain" and now
they've ruined it.
--Richard
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Yeah it is. Until I see a bug fix list and hear about improvements (like
linked parts), I'm passing on this.
Colin Broom wrote:
http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/home.aspx
Isn't it earlier than usual?
Colin Broom.
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The next g
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
So I changed the dynamic from fff to mf and the blatts were gone. This much
I can at least take into an audio editor and fix!
This suggests that a sample used in a velocity switch (one that kicks
in only above a certain dynamic) for that one note is somehow corrupt
At 02:01 PM 7/2/2007, Colin Broom wrote:
>http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/home.aspx
>
>Isn't it earlier than usual?
Looks like about a month earlier than the last 2 versions, at any rate.
Aaron.
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At 02:24 PM 7/2/2007 -0400, John Howell wrote:
>The problem with that method
>is that it leaves it entirely up to the player to figure out how and
>where to finger the harmonic.
Exactly. That's what I do. You put in bowings, they change them. You put in
phrasings, they change them. You put in dy
At 9:43 AM -0400 7/2/07, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Will Denayer wrote:
Dear Christopher,
I am using Finale 2007c with Garritan Pers. Orch. 2 and the
playback engine is Kontakt 2.
I am talking about double bass solo KS. Artificial harmonics (using
TGT) play back cor
http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/home.aspx
Isn't it earlier than usual?
Colin Broom.
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Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
David,
Good sequence of questions...
[snip]>
Argh.
One final thought -- either pay your trombone player more or give him
higher billing in the credits. Trombonists can be so touchy sometimes! ;-)
Sorry that I couldn't come up with any effective suggestions!
At 01:14 PM 7/2/2007 -0400, Raymond Horton wrote:
>I haven't been reading everything in this thread, but I will throw in
>that I had some strange sounds from GPO and HP that I discovered were a
>strange implementation of hairpin playback. I reduced the hairpin
>effect, but in some cases I also
I haven't been reading everything in this thread, but I will throw in
that I had some strange sounds from GPO and HP that I discovered were a
strange implementation of hairpin playback. I reduced the hairpin
effect, but in some cases I also eliminated some hairpins for the
playback file.
R
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> Sent: 02 July 2007 17:26
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: RE: [Finale] db harmonics
>
>
> One of my bass-playing college friends had a chart of bass
> harmonics as notated in th
One of my bass-playing college friends had a chart of bass harmonics as
notated in the works of Maurice Ravel, who himself used several different
notation.
Onward and upaward,
Aaron J. Rabushka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://users.waymark.net/arabushk
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These are measure-attached smart shapes, so I know of no way to do
what you've described automatically. Fastest way I can think of is
click Mass Edit, select Items to Copy, clear everthing then choose
Smart Shapes Assigned to Measures, click a measure where you've
entered only the hairpin y
Christopher Smith / 2007/07/02 / 11:32 AM wrote:
>Well, really, ALL extensions are actually suspensions that we just
>decided didn't need to resolve. Having the note of resolution present
>at the same time as the suspension just makes it an added tone
I was taught, in classical theory, that s
On Jul 1, 2007, at 2:26 PM, Karen wrote:
Hi Christopher,
You are right about the corruption happening when you try to
transfer the file to another computer or drive. This can happen
whenever the # sign appears in a file name for whatever reason
(most often, as you have discovered, when
On Jul 2, 2007, at 10:31 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
I wrote:
Bar 2, voiced from the bottom, G,F,Bb,Eb,G
What to call bar 2?
As soon as I saw this, it is G-7(b13) to me. This fits in Modal
Interchange function to the context you provided.
I have to take this back. When I saw this, Parallel
On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:58 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Christopher Smith / 2007/06/30 / 04:07 PM wrote:
Bar 2, voiced from the bottom, G,F,Bb,Eb,G
What to call bar 2?
As soon as I saw this, it is G-7(b13) to me. This fits in Modal
Interchange function to the context you provided.
On Jul 1, 20
On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:58 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Christopher Smith / 2007/06/30 / 04:07 PM wrote:
A major chord with a suspended 4 and 2 is not that uncommon;
I guess we agree not to agree :-)
Sus 4 and 2 isn't in my book. It has to be us 4 (add 9).
Well, really, ALL extensions are actu
On Jul 2, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Owain Sutton wrote:
On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Will Denayer wrote:
Dear Christopher,
I am using Finale 2007c with Garritan Pers. Orch. 2 and the
playback engine is Kontakt 2.
I am talking about double bass solo KS. Artificial
harmonics (using
TGT) play back cor
Say the original first measure was four quarters, with a double hairpin over
the whole measure. When I do the change duration I (correctly) get two
measures of half notes, but the double hairpin still only covers the first
measure, when it should cover the two measures.
Gary
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Sent: 02 July 2007 14:43
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Finale] db harmonics
>
>
>
> On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Will Denayer wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear Christopher,
> > I am
Do you mean that, say for a hairpin that covered 4 beats of one
measure you now want it to stretch out to cover 8 beats of two measures?
If you only need to move hairpins to new measures, I think I know a
way. But explain which it is you want to do.
--Richard
On Jul 2, 2007, at 8:16 AM, G
I wrote:
>>Bar 2, voiced from the bottom, G,F,Bb,Eb,G
>>What to call bar 2?
>
>As soon as I saw this, it is G-7(b13) to me. This fits in Modal
>Interchange function to the context you provided.
I have to take this back. When I saw this, Parallel Modal Interchange
came to my mind right away, bu
Christopher Smith / 2007/06/30 / 04:07 PM wrote:
>A major chord with a suspended 4 and 2 is not that uncommon;
I guess we agree not to agree :-)
Sus 4 and 2 isn't in my book. It has to be us 4 (add 9).
>Bar 2, voiced from the bottom, G,F,Bb,Eb,G
>What to call bar 2?
As soon as I saw this, it
I have a score (The Exodus Song in case anyone is interested) which I have
notated in 4/4 but is very slow and is conducted in 8. I would like to
change this to be in 4/4 conducted in 4.
Ie I need to change the durations by 200%, so each 4/4 measure (in 8)
becomes two 4/4 measures (in 4).
I've tr
On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Will Denayer wrote:
Dear Christopher,
I am using Finale 2007c with Garritan Pers. Orch. 2 and the
playback engine is Kontakt 2.
I am talking about double bass solo KS. Artificial harmonics (using
TGT) play back correctly, natural harmonics (articulation tool - n
David,
Good sequence of questions...
At 06:51 AM 7/2/2007 -0400, dhbailey wrote:
>In your clip it sounds like an extra note is being played -- you don't
>have any hidden notes which might be there for spacing issues but not
>for display, do you?
No. When this happened before (with any HP issue
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 07:50 PM 7/1/2007 -0500, Randolph Peters wrote:
This is probably NOT what is going on, but to my ears it sounds like
a MIDI feedback loop. (Or a bunch of conflicting MIDI messages being
sent at the same time.) I think there are some strange anomalies that
occasio
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