...not to mention the CanadiEns, on and off the ice!
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- Original Message -
From: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Doubling part label
On Tue Jul
Cor anglais is stuck up? I thought it was simply British, for
people who know that the English horn is neither English nor a horn.
French, actually. French for English horn, which is apparently
where the term came from.
Actually it was originally: angelic horn, as in horn of the angels.
/
At the moment I'm editing a cantata by Telemann written for a funeral in 1722
which calls for one oboa d'amore, which sent me running to Johann Gottfried
Walther, who writes (Musicalisches Lexikon, 1732) that the oboe d'amore
appeared around 1720. He continues it resembles the oboe in almost
Angelic horn? you mean a sackbut?
Aaron J. Rabushka
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- Original Message -
From: ch...@directionsinmusic.com
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Doubling part label
Cor anglais is stuck up? I thought it was simply
At 8:56 PM -0700 7/6/10, dershem wrote:
But a warning is always welcome. I do the same with mute changes,
using get plunger ready and the like. With software, it's easy to
do, and there's really no reason not to.
Absolutely. Case in point: we're in rehearsal for our annual summer
At 12:09 AM -0400 7/7/10, Christopher Smith wrote:
Roemer agrees with John Blane (and with me!) that the key signature
change should occur in the first measure containing notes on the new
instrument. The change itself (in English) is indicated well in
advance, but the key only changes with
there is really no way to apply a document style to an existing
document, have i understood this correctly? you can only apply a doc
style at the setup wizard stage?
i am starting work on a piece in many many small sections and have
considered having them as separate docs (several page
On Wed Jul 7, at WednesdayJul 7 1:11 PM, John Howell wrote:
Absolutely. Case in point: we're in rehearsal for our annual
summer musical (The Pajama Game, 1954), and the string books are
filled with pizz., arco, con sordino, and senza sordino markings
that ARE NOT CANCELLED! We're
At 12:58 AM -0400 7/7/10, Christopher Smith wrote:
And most anglophone Canadians who speak French too are not stuck up,
they are just trying to get along with their fellow citizens. Some
might take exception to your position.
And they would be quite correct to, so my apologies in advance.
There ARE libraries of things that can be loaded, and Patterson's
Copy utilities can copy a whole slew of other things. A combination
of loading a library and then redefining pages could do what you are
looking for.
Christopher
On Wed Jul 7, at WednesdayJul 7 1:03 PM, SN jef chippewa
On Wed Jul 7, at WednesdayJul 7 1:29 PM, John Howell wrote:
Of course the guy who managed my quartet for a while grew up in
Canada and was fluent in French (his father was a famous chef on
the Canadian-Pacific Railroad), and he acted as a liaison with the
French military right after WW
At 4:06 AM -0500 7/7/10, Aaron Rabushka wrote:
Angelic horn? you mean a sackbut?
Well, in the King James translation, Gabriel plays the trumpet, but
in the Luther translation he plays the Posaune. Different unions,
I guess!
Of course the Italian trombone does mean a big trumpet. (The
If there's no oboe in the orchestra (pit orchestra), what's the next best
choice to tune to? Muted trumpet? Ha. In all seriousness; Clarinet? Flute?
According to the League of American Orchestras, The penetrating tone of the
oboe is easy for all players to hear, and its ability to sustain pitch is
Ryan wrote:
If there's no oboe in the orchestra (pit orchestra), what's the next best
choice to tune to? Muted trumpet? Ha. In all seriousness; Clarinet? Flute?
According to the League of American Orchestras, The penetrating tone of the
oboe is easy for all players to hear, and its ability to
You make good points. After I hit send I remembered that we're using a
synth in the group to cover the accordion part. I'll tune to that (not the
accordion sound though!)
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:09 AM, dhbailey
dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote:
Ryan wrote:
If there's no oboe in
I concur with David. Clarinet is an excellent choice if the player is
good, but keyboard is best if there is one in the orchestra. I use
clarinet in my college wind ensemble, unless my oboist is
exceptional, because the general level of clarinet tone production
and stability is so much
At 10:58 AM -0700 7/7/10, Ryan wrote:
If there's no oboe in the orchestra (pit orchestra), what's the next best
choice to tune to? Muted trumpet? Ha. In all seriousness; Clarinet? Flute?
According to the League of American Orchestras, The penetrating tone of the
oboe is easy for all players to
At 2:09 PM -0400 7/7/10, dhbailey wrote:
Seriously, though, why doesn't everybody have their instrument
already tuned when they unpack it and start warming up? It's not as
though perfectly capable automatic tuners are beyond anybody's
financial reach these days.
That's assuming that all
The IU bands that I played in always tuned to the 1st clarinetist, even when we
did have oboes on hand.
ajr
dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote:
Ryan wrote:
If there's no oboe in the orchestra (pit orchestra), what's the next best
choice to tune to? Muted trumpet? Ha.
I also recall a lot of paintings where the angels are playing
sackbuts/trombones in heavenly settings. As you used to say to me and Bill
Taggart, John, you guys belong to a good union!
Anyone see Fellini's Orchestra Rehearsal movie? Where the trombonist carries
on about his instrument being
At 1:26 PM -0400 7/7/10, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Wed Jul 7, at WednesdayJul 7 1:11 PM, John Howell wrote:
Absolutely. Case in point: we're in rehearsal for our annual
summer musical (The Pajama Game, 1954), and the string books are
filled with pizz., arco, con sordino, and senza
Good thoughts on tuning. I love the contributors to this list. I do want to
clarify that I was joking about using the muted trumpet. I was referring to
the ubiquitous arranger's technique of cueing the oboe part for muted
trumpet. Besides, I doubt the players will arrive early enough to give the
On 7 Jul 2010 at 15:07, John Howell wrote:
And for string players, tuning to a meter means tuning tempered 5ths,
not pure 5ths.
Er, doesn't that depend on what temperament you have your electronic
tuner set to?
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David Fenton Associates
Well, in my band transcriptions (available from Lauren Keiser Music) I provided
a special OBBLIGATO CLARINET to cover the oboe part if necessary--will blend
better with other woodwinds than a muted trumpet, I think.
ajr
Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote:
Good thoughts on tuning. I love
On Wed Jul 7, at WednesdayJul 7 3:27 PM, Ryan wrote:
Good thoughts on tuning. I love the contributors to this list. I do
want to
clarify that I was joking about using the muted trumpet. I was
referring to
the ubiquitous arranger's technique of cueing the oboe part for muted
trumpet.
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 7 Jul 2010 at 15:07, John Howell wrote:
And for string players, tuning to a meter means tuning tempered 5ths,
not pure 5ths.
Er, doesn't that depend on what temperament you have your electronic
tuner set to?
And that also assumes that the string player wouldn't
At 4:06 PM -0400 7/7/10, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Wed Jul 7, at WednesdayJul 7 3:27 PM, Ryan wrote:
Good thoughts on tuning. I love the contributors to this list. I do want to
clarify that I was joking about using the muted trumpet. I was referring to
the ubiquitous arranger's technique of
At 3:57 PM -0400 7/7/10, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 7 Jul 2010 at 15:07, John Howell wrote:
And for string players, tuning to a meter means tuning tempered 5ths,
not pure 5ths.
Er, doesn't that depend on what temperament you have your electronic
tuner set to?
Unless things have changed
At 4:19 PM -0400 7/7/10, dhbailey wrote:
And that also assumes that the string player wouldn't use an
electronic tuner to get the A and then tune by ear from there. I
never suggested that they use the tuner for all their strings, just
that if everybody were using an electronic tuner to get
Wow! I thought I was the only one who knew that movie!
And just FWIW: it wasn't a balloon. It was anothersimilar.latex item.
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On 7/7/2010 10:11 AM, John Howell wrote:
At 8:56 PM -0700 7/6/10, dershem wrote:
But a warning is always welcome. I do the same with mute changes,
using get plunger ready and the like. With software, it's easy to
do, and there's really no reason not to.
Absolutely. Case in point: we're in
Seriously, though, why doesn't everybody have their instrument already
tuned when they unpack it and start warming up? It's not as though
perfectly capable automatic tuners are beyond anybody's financial reach
these days.
My horn was tuned at the factory. I shouldn't have to change it now,
At 5:48 PM -0700 7/7/10, dershem wrote:
The local light opera company is doing Pajama Game this summer.
Apparently it's a popular show right now. :)
Alas, I'm not on the contractor's short list, and won't be in the pit. :(
You'd be welcome in my pit anytime, but unfortunately we're a
On 7/7/2010 6:29 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 5:48 PM -0700 7/7/10, dershem wrote:
The local light opera company is doing Pajama Game this summer.
Apparently it's a popular show right now. :)
Alas, I'm not on the contractor's short list, and won't be in the pit. :(
You'd be welcome in my pit
I did Pajama Game some years ago and have a not-so-funny story.
As I recall, the exit music is a reprise of Hey there. It is in a key
that makes for a smooth transition from the final fashion show number. I
think they are both in B major (ugh!). At any rate, for the final
performance which was
On 7 Jul 2010 at 18:30, John Howell wrote:
At 3:57 PM -0400 7/7/10, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 7 Jul 2010 at 15:07, John Howell wrote:
And for string players, tuning to a meter means tuning tempered
5ths, not pure 5ths.
Er, doesn't that depend on what temperament you have your
On 7 Jul 2010 at 18:31, John Howell wrote:
At 4:19 PM -0400 7/7/10, dhbailey wrote:
And that also assumes that the string player wouldn't use an
electronic tuner to get the A and then tune by ear from there. I
never suggested that they use the tuner for all their strings, just
that if
At 9:36 PM -0400 7/7/10, Guy Hayden wrote:
I think PG is from a period when the
key-signatures only occur at the top of the page.
It sure is, and it drives me nuts. Especially with constant key changes.
I just checked my book. The exit music is actually in C major, but
the Fashion Parade
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