Re: [Finale] Maestoso spiced meat in a can

2005-04-27 Thread Andrew Stiller
ou from my blocked list because the subject line caused your messages to immediately be channeled into my "Spam" folder AND your addresses blocked. It appears, then, that you need a new ISP. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.

Re: [Finale] The BIG Switch: FinMAC to SIBELIUS 3.1 OS X?

2005-04-27 Thread Andrew Stiller
Noel wrote: and I would say in my defense that since I did not begin with Finale until 2k, I do not even have a user's manual from which to provide a first or second page. Sure you do. Just print out the first two pages of the OLD. VoilĂ ! Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netco

Re: [Finale] Engraver Font Display

2005-04-27 Thread Andrew Stiller
t up with it, since the printed appearance of this font is so superior, but still... Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Muted pizz.

2005-04-26 Thread Andrew Stiller
r discussion, in my book. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: J.S. Bachs Instrumentarium

2005-04-24 Thread Andrew Stiller
limitations by providing it only slow notes to play. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] FWIW: Feature suggestion

2005-04-20 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Apr 19, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Allen Fisher wrote: I'd rather have custom smart shape hairpins that I could attach text to. (A mezzo di voce < > tool is on my list too) That's *messa* [Italian: "placement"] di voce. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http:/

Re: [Finale] Concert Pitch A: Europe v. America

2005-04-19 Thread Andrew Stiller
hat does nothing but broadcast a continuous A-440 worldwide as the embodiment of the standard. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-19 Thread Andrew Stiller
and make a unilateral decision, because the composer's wishes are sovereign. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-19 Thread Andrew Stiller
solute druthers (wh. of course I don't), both the viola and the clarinet would be treble-clef instruments that switched to bass clef for low-lying passages. Just like the marimba. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ __

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-19 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Apr 17, 2005, at 6:35 PM, John Howell wrote: At 3:28 PM -0400 4/16/05, Andrew Stiller wrote: Certainly. But Rachmaninoff's use of the convention was by then no more traditional than Hindemith's use of the viola d'amore. Hindemith directed the Yale Collegium Mus

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th Century Trumpet question

2005-04-18 Thread Andrew Stiller
ituus" required in two of the cantatas? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-18 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Apr 17, 2005, at 4:33 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 17 Apr 2005 at 11:43, Andrew Stiller wrote: With a concert-pitch score, the copyist will need to exercise more initiative than usual in deciding clef change issues, because quite obviously instruments with big transpositions will have parts

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-17 Thread Andrew Stiller
copyist's. Since my full-Boehm Bb clarinet has a low Eb key, I felt no compunction about using it for this piece instead, but I had to copy out the part a half-step up for me to play it. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netco

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-16 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Apr 15, 2005, at 3:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 15 Apr 2005 at 10:12, Andrew Stiller wrote: The 8bassa notation hasn't been traditional for a century and a half. The cello arrangement of the Rachmaninoff Vocalise uses it, and that was unquestionably published less than 150 years ago,

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-16 Thread Andrew Stiller
whose effective range straddles middle C. Since that is manifestly not the case, your assertion is falsified. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-16 Thread Andrew Stiller
. the clef at all--but as a composer, I find it an unnecessary complication of the notational system. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-16 Thread Andrew Stiller
ere) or in multiple stops. Interestingly enough, the same piece sends the vc. below the *treble* staff in two other places--as low as the Bb below middle C. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Final

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-15 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Apr 14, 2005, at 5:48 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: 8vb treble clef notation for cello is no longer used. You mean, in modern editions. No, he means in modern (and late Romantic) *compositions.* Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-15 Thread Andrew Stiller
than switch clefs for single eighth notes, he fearlessly writes isolated notes as low a tenor c without leaving the treble clef. As an editor, my first reaction was to overrule him, but when I saw what the alternative would look like, I realized he was right. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Musi

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-15 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Apr 14, 2005, at 3:51 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Are you talking about [cello] treble clef at pitch or treble 8bassa, the traditional notation? The 8bassa notation hasn't been traditional for a century and a half. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kal

Re: [Finale] Re: clef changes

2005-04-15 Thread Andrew Stiller
uth, I tried to get rid of the alto clef too, but the violists weren't having any... Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] How Do You Reposition Staves?!

2005-04-13 Thread Andrew Stiller
taff Usage dialog. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] ot; the "launching pad"

2005-04-12 Thread Andrew Stiller
one's historically persecuted ethnic group) as atheist, and also because any discussion of the question would raise the miserably contentious issue of just who is a Jew and who isn't. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netco

Re: [Finale] "launching pad/full of S---

2005-04-12 Thread Andrew Stiller
composed at age 44. As I grow older--and I think virtually every composer is this way--I find that an increasing number of the "nuts and bolts" can be found in the handy bin of leftover nuts and bolts from earlier projects--also, gimmicks that worked once so why not do it again?

Re: [Finale] ot; the "launching pad"

2005-04-12 Thread Andrew Stiller
great composer that is an atheist. Varese comes immediately to mind, and Copland right after. I'm sure I could dig up others with a little research. I find this line of thinking to be unutterably poisonous. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com

[Finale] old Mac font

2005-04-11 Thread Andrew Stiller
this font's name makes it not appear in the Viewer, so I'm flying blind here. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Letter shortcuts.

2005-04-08 Thread Andrew Stiller
. Oh well. I believe the preferred term for Apple computer users is "Macinista." Shouldn't that be manzanista? RE German "Macker"--cf, perhaps, British "wanker?" Can't think of an appropriate Americanism... Andrew Stiller Kallisti Musi

Re: [Finale] Orchestral parts

2005-04-08 Thread Andrew Stiller
bined wind parts are absolutely verboten. I don't think it's coincidental that the countries where such parts are commonplace (France is not the only one) are also notorious for bad engraving and flimsy, acid-laden paper. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netco

Re: [Finale] TAN: iTunes

2005-04-02 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Apr 1, 2005, at 1:48 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Anyway, you can do the consolidation in iTunes 4.7 once you import all your songs and playlists. Are you still having trouble? No, I think I have it under control now. Thanx to all who advised :-) Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http

Re: [Finale] TAN: iTunes

2005-04-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
Andrew, is there no "Consolidate Library" command in your OS 9 version of iTunes? That's the command you really want -- it will move everything to the iTunes Music Folder specified in your preferences. - Darcy If there is, it's not in any menu or submenu. Andrew Stiller

Re: [Finale] TAN: iTunes

2005-03-31 Thread Andrew Stiller
album Have you tried this? steve I tried it just now. It seems to be already set up. In any event, all my sound files are aiff. Aren't they higher fidelity than MP3? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Fina

Re: [Finale] TAN: iTunes

2005-03-30 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Mar 28, 2005, at 11:29 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 28 Mar 2005, at 10:42 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 3:34 PM, Steve Gibons wrote: Can't you select a tune in itunes for 9 and hit command-r for reveal original? This shows a bunch of stuff where you'd expect it

Re: [Finale] TAN: iTunes

2005-03-28 Thread Andrew Stiller
System 9 forever--meaning that when my current computer dies, the publication goes out of print. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] TAN: iTunes

2005-03-26 Thread Andrew Stiller
d a search for all folders containing the word "Music" does not reveal an alternative. Ideas? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT: 18th Century Trumpet question

2005-03-26 Thread Andrew Stiller
ivalent note for trumpets in other keys), the "vulgano" above that played just two notes, and the "alto e basso" just 3. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

[Finale] TAN: iTunes

2005-03-25 Thread Andrew Stiller
How do I import the playlists and libraries from my System 9 copy of iTunes into my OSX copy? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-20 Thread Andrew Stiller
r heaven's sake, don't answer! I'm just pointing out that people can mean different things by these expressions, and that it causes confusion in reh. sometimes. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Fi

Re: [Finale] Pick-up measures

2005-03-20 Thread Andrew Stiller
e opening notes, whether the piece was going to be in major or minor mode--and they probably would have assumed the former. The definitive turning to the dark side a few bars in must have been a deliberate effect on B's part, but it's impossible to hear that today, because we know in advanc

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-19 Thread Andrew Stiller
orchestra have totally different sets of rehearsal letters, and the orchestra members have had to go thru their parts and pencil in all the choral letters, which are in different places than the orchestra's letters. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netco

Re: [Finale] Handwritten fonts

2005-03-18 Thread Andrew Stiller
gradually adopted between then and the beginning of the 20th c. The new form was introduced to aid legibility. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-18 Thread Andrew Stiller
made particularly clear when there is a repeat sign back to the beginning, and the pickup forms the back end of a measure that has already been numbered, just before the repeat sign. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kal

Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-18 Thread Andrew Stiller
ction, and exactly where it ended in any given piece. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] American Styles (was Best Works of the 1920s)

2005-03-14 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Mar 14, 2005, at 3:33 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: On Mar 13, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: In 1820? *What* interior heartland? There was an interior alright, but it was very sparsely populated and could hardly be considered the heartland of anything. Good point. I would just amend

Re: [Finale] American Styles (was Best Works of the 1920s)

2005-03-13 Thread Andrew Stiller
nother book that you recommended. With a list price of $175 and no discounted copies available, it's just a little too rich for my blood!) John Yeah, sorry about that. I got my copy of _The Birth of the Orchestra_ at a prepublication price of $70.00, which looks like more and more of a barga

Re: [Finale] American Styles (was Best Works of the 1920s)

2005-03-12 Thread Andrew Stiller
9th c. Hamm's book is the basic text on early American popular music, and it contradicts your highly romanticized interpretation at every turn. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@sh

Re: [Finale] Authentication schemes

2005-03-11 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Mar 10, 2005, at 3:20 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Couperin and Charpentier Lessons of Tenebre That would be: Lessons for Tenebrae. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http

Re: [Finale] Authentication schemes

2005-03-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
t know how to use one were it provided. Long ago, Nora Ephron defined a distinction between Basic Worry and Baroque Worry. Worrying about a disastrous hypothetical combination of corporate, backup, and hard-drive failures is definitely Baroque. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.

Re: [Finale] OT: Best Works of the 1920s

2005-03-09 Thread Andrew Stiller
aware that any such list is acutely sensitive to the exact definition of "best" and "piece," so that others may quite legitimately come up with lists that contain none of my entries. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ __

Re: [Finale] Extend secondary beams

2005-03-08 Thread Andrew Stiller
whole figure in one layer, with normal beams, then create a unison of the triplet only in another layer, make sure the beams overlap perfectly, then extend both beams of the triplet. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kal

Re: [Finale] String divisi

2005-03-06 Thread Andrew Stiller
becomes somewhat different. FWIW, _The Birth of the Orchestra_ apparently bases its assertions in this area primarily on two articles by Stephen Bonta: "From Violone to Violoncello: A Question of Strings," JAMIS 3 (1977), 64-99; and "Terminology for the Bass Violin in Seventeenth-Ce

Re: [Finale] OT Bass low B

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
trument is scordatura regardless of the notation. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] String divisi

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
strongly recommend to anyone interested in the subject. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] String divisi

2005-03-03 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Mar 3, 2005, at 5:57 AM, Ken Moore wrote: ... some bass[es are] five-string (bottom string usually tuned to C in the US, B in Europe) B? That's a new one on me! Can anyone cite a composition (orch., chamber, or solo) that actually requires that note from the cb? Andrew Stiller Kallisti

[Finale] Fwd: [Public Knowledge] Trouble Locating Copyright Owners? Tell the Copyright Office Your Story

2005-03-02 Thread Andrew Stiller
I thought the following might be of interest to some list members. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: March 1, 2005 5:14:49 PM EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Public Knowledge] Trouble Locating

Re: [Finale] Tied note starting a coda

2005-03-02 Thread Andrew Stiller
nding. This would be a Martha Stewart-like Good Thing, IMHO. Christopher I agree completely, and have CCd Macsupport accordingly. This would be a truly elegant and desirable extension of an already extant function. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kal

Re: [Finale] Tied note starting a coda

2005-02-27 Thread Andrew Stiller
tying it right then editing the tie in Special Tools to go backwards won't work. Create a unison in a second layer, tie both notes and kludge one of them. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] OT: Christo's The Gates, NYC Central Park

2005-02-22 Thread Andrew Stiller
hem. a middle school in the Bronx that has no resources at all: no books, no lockers, nothing they need. Not to deny the inadequacy of school funding, but is there in fact, anywhere in NYC, such a school? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://

Re: [Finale] Freeze measure widths?

2005-02-20 Thread Andrew Stiller
And a negative number removes space. Aaron. I find this plugin absolutely invaluable, and strongly recommend it to anyone who doesn't know about it. I find myself using it dozens of times in virtually every one of my projects. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.co

Re: [Finale] Freeze measure widths?

2005-02-20 Thread Andrew Stiller
s sort of thing--for years now--very easily and flexibly with Tobias' Add/Remove Space In Measure plugin. What's the problem? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://l

[Finale] Re: OT: French diacritics (was: German sz)

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew Stiller
ms. This usage was dropped after a couple of centuries--too bad the island S wasn't. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] TAN Magic Flute (was Garritan and other stuff)

2005-02-12 Thread Andrew Stiller
; and I have come to disagree with his characterization of Don Giovanni. But all his observations are thought-provoking, deeply considered, and highly erudite. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] TAN Magic Flute (was Garritan and other stuff)

2005-02-11 Thread Andrew Stiller
improbabilities. The libretto to _The Magic Flute_ was highly admired by no less a figure than Goethe, who even wrote a sequel to it; the opinion of an author of such stature is not, I think, lightly to be dismissed. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___

Re: [Finale] Bernoulli and airplane wings

2005-02-11 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 10, 2005, at 3:29 PM, dhbailey wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: If Bernoulli's law were responsible for lift in aircraft, airplanes wouldn't be able to fly upside-down--and they can. I'm confused by this remark -- Bernoulli's law deals with the flow of air over an air-foi

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
t;How can I know what I think until I see what I say?" Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] TAN Magic Flute (was Garritan and other stuff)

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
background--though of course knowledge of this sort can only deepen one's appreciation of any work. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Re: Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
em on--a shiver up the spine is guaranteed. Don't have to be trombones. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
Since he dangle his grammatical temporal dongle, I wonder if he'd clarify if he meant the fame from the late 18th century on, or the composer from the late 18th century on. Dennis Fame--or rather, reputation, wh. is what I was really talking about. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
ing this too literally. I only used the figure 150 because that's how old Janacek is, this year. I meant merely that "having sustained (and grown) a reputation for so long, a composer is unlikely subsequently to lose it." I stand by that assertion. Andrew Stiller Kal

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
e able to fly upside-down--and they can. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

RE: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-09 Thread Andrew Stiller
ast--especially a TV broadcast--or who has been programmed in a subscription concert of one of the big five orchestras can hardly be considered to be "unknown outside of academic circles." The names of such composers are legion. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-09 Thread Andrew Stiller
to oblivion, but since ca. 1780, those of lasting merit get rehabilitated after a few decades in the doghouse. As far as I can see, this is a one-time, one-way process. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-08 Thread Andrew Stiller
, and even about his long, extramarital affair with Kamila Urvalkova. And BTW, it's not up to you to decide whether J's music is very good or not. On that point, the verdict of history is in, long since. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___

Re: [Finale] TGTools v2.32

2005-02-08 Thread Andrew Stiller
As long as we're on the subject of plugins, may I make a request for one? Finale's Unconventional Key Signature algorithm hasn't changed a bit since Finale 1.0, largely because it is so specialized a feature that Coda/MakeMusic have never felt any urgency to improve it. That being the case, woul

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-07 Thread Andrew Stiller
the supposed overlap of adjacent chords, and quasi-arpeggiations where two successive chords were meant to be heard as if played simultaneously. It is very thoroughly and unambiguously documented both that he got the idea from acoustic theory, and that he consciously applied it in his own wor

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-07 Thread Andrew Stiller
Cage's name as his own, and I imagine a great many of Nicholas Cage's fans know that. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] For the Birds

2005-02-07 Thread Andrew Stiller
with his theories is that he thinks every detail of grammar, syntax, etc. is a consequence of rules learned by the brain during language acquisition. Steven Pinker's recent book about irregular word forms demonstrates pretty conclusively that irregular forms are stored in the brain as if they wer

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-07 Thread Andrew Stiller
c, composed on the same principle, be more successful? No, and no. You have scientific proof that Cage was wrong? Ipse dixit. I actually don't think much of Cage's work as music per se, but he had a lot of good ideas. Yes he did. I believe his ultimate reputation will be rather like tha

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-07 Thread Andrew Stiller
You prove *your* assertion that, in effect, consonance can exist in music in which "dissonance" is never resolved. Dumbarton Oaks Concerto. Last chord. QED I've no interest in playing your childish debating games. Oh dear. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netco

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-07 Thread Andrew Stiller
hesis? Sound recording? Are these things not important? not musical? not "from science?" Beyond that, there is the less measurable by very important influence of acoustic and music-psychological theories upon compositional styles, going back at least to Berlioz. -- Andrew Stiller Kalli

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-06 Thread Andrew Stiller
by the ospedale--they certainly were considered eminently marriageable. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-06 Thread Andrew Stiller
s triggered, it sends an impulse up the auditory branch of the VIII cranial nerve, which impulse is eventually processed by the brain. Everything we have been arguing about here has to do with what the brain does--the rest is simple physics. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netco

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-06 Thread Andrew Stiller
e. Was this music as successful (moving, exciting, attractive) as other musics? Could other music, composed on the same principle, be more successful? No, and no. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-06 Thread Andrew Stiller
at you say. Now prove it. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-04 Thread Andrew Stiller
was a marginal practice). -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-04 Thread Andrew Stiller
of men's mystery is hooey. No, hooey is too mild a term. It's undisguised gender hatred: if someone said such a thing to my face I'd demand an apology. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Fina

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-04 Thread Andrew Stiller
of hit songs from the past 50 years that end with a fadeout on a repeating, non-cadential phrase and have no definite ending sonority at all. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-04 Thread Andrew Stiller
to rely on precisely such means for its effect. Very interesting that composers (some, not all, thank goodness) decided that how their music affected their audiences no longer mattered. This is a straw man: There never was any such composer. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-04 Thread Andrew Stiller
intervals are absolutely dissonant and absolutely consonant respectively, and without regard to musical context. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] iKey woes

2005-02-03 Thread Andrew Stiller
ying on another thread. The whole computer industry now reminds me of the auto industry in the '50s. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-03 Thread Andrew Stiller
At 12:29 PM 2/2/05 -0500, Andrew Stiller wrote: Another crrosspost from Orchestra-L: The pioneer figure was Arnold Schoenberg, with his theory of the emancipation of dissonance The theory, and the term, belong to Charles Seeger. The emancipation of a large chunk of the American population was

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-02 Thread Andrew Stiller
aware that an American classical tradition exists--but that too is typical of Europeans of his mindset. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] up grade advice

2005-02-02 Thread Andrew Stiller
Andrew Stiller wrote: Press three keys to toggle scroll/page view? Give me a break! don't blame Panther for decisions which MM made. What else? Johannes MM wouldn't have made the decision if there hadn't been an OS change. My whole point is that the decisions made by MM in trying

Re: [Finale] OT: Pitch frequency table

2005-02-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
cents, multiply the result by 1200. To work the second equation when your starting value is in half-steps of cents, divide it by 12 or 1200 to get the value of f. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-02-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
r's university professorship must be considered a day job, then so must Mahler's and Haydn's conducting gigs, Palestrina's priesthood and Machaut's canonicate. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ __

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-01-31 Thread Andrew Stiller
ay, though, that prior to the 1960s there was a huge amount of Baroque music that had never received a modern performance, and whose creators were widely thought to be minor figures unworthy of extensive revival. Among these were Telemann and Zelenka. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.

Re: [Finale] Garritan and other stuff

2005-01-31 Thread Andrew Stiller
estra (and probably others as well, but I know the BPO's history particularly well) got its start from a bunch of unemployed musicians getting together in 1930 just to preserve their chops. Comments? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netco

[Finale] Fwd: Trombone problems

2005-01-31 Thread Andrew Stiller
bone could never have been imagined by the founding fathers when they granted us the right to keep and bear arms. Remember: When trombones are outlawed, only outlaws will play "I'm Gettin Sentimental Over You." Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] up grade advice

2005-01-31 Thread Andrew Stiller
appreciate the enormous technology advance that OS X gives me. Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jan 28, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: you will quickly find that it [OSX] is much better than OS 9 That has most emphatically *not* been my experience. OSX is a fix for something that was not broken

Re: [Finale] LONG - SORRY - Performance/recording

2005-01-31 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jan 30, 2005, at 12:10 PM, John Howell wrote: We're talking about 2 different art forms here. Live performance is one, and recording is another. No we're not. Music is an art form. Jazz is a genre. Live performance is a *medium*. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.

Re: [Finale] up grade advice

2005-01-29 Thread Andrew Stiller
waste weeks of time installing and configuring it, simply to continue doing business as usual. If we're lucky. IMO the whole thing is highway robbery, pure and simple. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ F

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