Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 22:55, schrieb mmathew1...@comcast.net: There is an article in the current issue of macilife wherein they seem to be discussing this topic on page 88 and ƒ. Does this help? So what does it say? I haven't got access to MacLife. Johannes

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 23:01, schrieb Darcy James Argue: What mail client are you using? Thunderbird, I never liked Apple Mail much, and at the time it didn't work well for me, as it kept wanting to go online even when I was on a Modem connection. On the other hand I am sure it has evolved since.

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 20:32, schrieb Eric Dannewitz: Well, what are you using that isn't a Monopoly? Apple? Microsoft? Monopoly of technology, yes. But Google is about to have a monopoly of information. Some of that information is actually personal. I know they haven't used it to our disadvantage -

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-11 Thread Matthew Gmail
Fair enough re monopolies: we are financially raped in Australia by the banking oligopoly and obviously a monopoly has greater potential for problems. However I have the same basic system as you for my mail (not finalelist). I access email via google/pOP. When an email is downloaded to

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Honestly, Google can gather information about my email. There is nothing interesting in there. I'd be more concerned with the global banking monopoly that existsbut that is me. I think there were a number of suggestions on how to use both IMAP and POP, or use IMAP in a way similar to how

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 11.01.10 16:08, schrieb Eric Dannewitz: I think there were a number of suggestions on how to use both IMAP and POP, or use IMAP in a way similar to how you are using POP right now. And these things are possible using Thunderbird as well (which I use). Yes, thanks for all the tips, I am still

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-11 Thread mmathew1942
-08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP Am 10.01.10 22:55, schrieb mmathew1...@comcast.net: There is an article in the current issue of macilife wherein they seem to be discussing this topic on page 88 and ƒ. Does this help? So what does it say? I

[Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I this really has only very remotely to do with Finale. On the other hand it has to do with the Finale mailing list, so perhaps there will be some clever person here with some answers. I currently use several email accounts as POP accounts. All the mail gets downloaded to my computer, and

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 10, 2010 9:12 am, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Perhaps I am missing something, but does IMAP allow me to use it like POP with only added convenience, or am I then required to keep everything on the server all the time? I'll give you the simple answer by example. I use both. I check

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 15:26, schrieb Dennis Bathory-Kitsz: When I'm ready to grab the mail that I want to keep, I move everything back to the IMAP inbox, mark it as unread, and run my POP mail program (where I have all my email since 1993). It downloads automatically deletes everything on the server's

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 10, 2010 9:59 am, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Seems rather a lot of extra work: You have to first move everything back to the inbox and mark it unread? Depends on your IMAP interface, I guess. I only have two other mailboxes (Delayed Followup and Temp -- one is stuff I'm done with,

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I'd say go imap. Get a gmail account. You can set up folders and what not. Computers (multiple) and iPhones can use the account via imap, and all your messages will be there. Plus gmail can also function as an exchange server service for the iPhone, and immediately beep the phone when you

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 19:03, schrieb Eric Dannewitz: I'd say go imap. Get a gmail account. You can set up folders and what not. Computers (multiple) and iPhones can use the account via imap, and all your messages will be there. Plus gmail can also function as an exchange server service for the iPhone, and

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Tens of thousands of messages. If not close to 100,000. I have emails going back to 1997 on there, plus interesting messages I've saved from the 40 or so lists I am on (Flute, Klarinet, etc). I don't know why you wouldn't consider Google mail. It works amazingly well. And it's free. And the

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 10, 2010 1:14 pm, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I am certainly not going google, but IMAP is an option... Johannes, Does your musikmanufaktur.com web host not offer both IMAP and POP for the same account? If so, you can have the benefits of both -- IMAP as needed, POP for archiving

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 19:29, schrieb Dennis Bathory-Kitsz: Does your musikmanufaktur.com web host not offer both IMAP and POP for the same account? If so, you can have the benefits of both -- IMAP as needed, POP for archiving locally. That's what I'm using and, like Eric, find using IMAP with my phone an

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 19:20, schrieb Eric Dannewitz: I don't know why you wouldn't consider Google mail. It works amazingly well. And it's free. And the exchange option is great. Apple also offers mobileme.com which is really great too, and it keeps your bookmarks and contact information synced between

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
POP mail can be set to delete itself from the server after a specified amount of time. I don't see why you could not just set everything to IMAP, and create local folders on your computer and drag and drop the messages you want to savethen you wouldn't have to worry about this whole

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Well, what are you using that isn't a Monopoly? Apple? Microsoft? I use Google Mail cause it is robust. Millions of people use it. They provide lots of storage. They aren't going to disappear. And they had just one blip in their service since they started (last year, like 1/2 a day). And again

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 10, 2010 2:22 pm, Johannes Gebauer wrote: As far as I can see it cannot be used at the same time unless you unsort the mail before using the pop access. That sort of defeats the purpose, no? Yes, I understand. I don't really worry about sorting until I download, which I

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 20:40, schrieb Dennis Bathory-Kitsz: Got it. I don't really like IMAP -- the only reason I use it at all is because my POP mail is accessed from and stored on my laptop (with external backup) and I don't use the laptop for 'real' work at home. When I use the laptop at home (such as

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 10.01.10 20:29, schrieb Eric Dannewitz: I don't see why you could not just set everything to IMAP, and create local folders on your computer and drag and drop the messages you want to savethen you wouldn't have to worry about this whole POP/IMAP thing Drag and drop? That seems like

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 10, 2010 3:03 pm, Johannes Gebauer wrote: So when you are using email at home you don't have direct access to your mail database? Yes. I use VNC to operate the laptop from my desktop (screen-in-screen, with cross-computer copy/paste of text, etc.) Dennis

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread mmathew1942
- Original Message - From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:35:28 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP On Sun, January 10, 2010 3:03 pm, Johannes Gebauer wrote: So when you

Re: [Finale] Completely OT: IMAP vs POP

2010-01-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
What mail client are you using? In Apple Mail, it is very easy to have both online (IMAP) folders and On My Mac folders, with automatic rules to handle sorting to each. You could have a rule that moved all messages older than 30 days from your (online) inbox to your (offline) inbox archive,