On Jun 6, 2005, at 4:29 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
Doesn't the last triangle have an effect on the selected syllable?
I think so, which is why I have little use for it. Why not just drag
the syllable directly, instead of clicking to select it then dragging
the arrow?
This is not so
On 7 Jun 2005 at 8:39, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jun 6, 2005, at 4:29 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
Doesn't the last triangle have an effect on the selected syllable?
I think so, which is why I have little use for it. Why not just drag
the syllable directly, instead of clicking to select
The fourth triangle effects the next syllable to be entered. It allows you
to shift your lyric baseline mid-system as you type, to get out of the way
of that low G you wrote for the altos...
On 6/7/05 11:02 AM, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] said this:
the fourth
triangle does nothing of
On Jun 7, 2005, at 9:30 AM, Allen Fisher wrote:The fourth triangle effects the next syllable to be entered. It allows youto shift your lyric baseline mid-system as you type, to get out of the wayof that low G you wrote for the altos...Amazing things one can learn on this list. tank you,
On Jun 7, 2005, at 9:30 AM, Allen Fisher wrote:
The fourth triangle effects the next syllable to be entered. It allows
you
to shift your lyric baseline mid-system as you type, to get out of the
way
of that low G you wrote for the altos...
Hmm, even I know that's bad engraving practice;
Except, the implementation is a little weird: Usually when you notice
that the syllable doesn't fit, you are already entering it. Hence, the
fourth triangle should ideally move the current and all following
syllables. Instead it moves only the following syls and I find this
extremely
I'm trying to put expression marks _above_ a vocal staff, but the
positioning triangles just won't work. Both for note positioning and measure
positioning the expressions are defined to go below the staff baseline (or
entry) and I want to drag them up for that vocal staff. The lyrics
positioning
Barbara Touburg wrote:
I'm trying to put expression marks _above_ a vocal staff, but the
positioning triangles just won't work. Both for note positioning and measure
positioning the expressions are defined to go below the staff baseline (or
entry) and I want to drag them up for that vocal
Dag Barbara..
Which set of triangles are you using? You can set them to either above
the staff or below the staff through the expressions dropdown list. The
expressions that are attached to above the staff will be handled by the
upper set of triangles, and those from below the staff by
Barbara,
You need to use a separate set of dynamics for vocal staves, defined to
go above the staff instead of below.
There is a Choral Dynamics library (already set up for placement above
the staff) in the Maestro Font folder inside your Libraries folder.
Load that library, and use those
A quick and dirty solution for just one file with dynamics already
entered (with no other non-choral instruments with different
requirements to mess things up) would be to just drag the
below-the-staff-baseline up, over the staff. This beats going in and
changing the automatic positioning for
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Barbara Touburg wrote:
I'm trying to put expression marks _above_ a vocal staff, but the
positioning triangles just won't work. Both for note positioning and
measure
positioning the expressions
stay below the staff. Am I missing something? I don't get it.
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Barbara Touburg wrote:
I'm trying to put expression marks _above_
Barbara Touburg wrote:
OK, but what are the triangles there for then??
The manual says:
Drag the positioning triangles to adjust the vertical positioning of the
expressions. These triangles are handles that control the baseline for the
expressions (the invisible line against which the bottoms
On 06 Jun 2005, at 9:55 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
A quick and dirty solution for just one file with dynamics already
entered (with no other non-choral instruments with different
requirements to mess things up) would be to just drag the
below-the-staff-baseline up, over the staff.
On 06 Jun 2005, at 10:18 AM, dhbailey wrote:
I figure I've done more profitable work simply clicking and dragging
than messing around trying to get the triangles to do that job for me.
And I've never wanted all my expressions exactly the same distance
above or below the staff, since the
On Jun 6, 2005, at 10:19 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 06 Jun 2005, at 9:55 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
A quick and dirty solution for just one file with dynamics already
entered (with no other non-choral instruments with different
requirements to mess things up) would be to just drag
triangle up just does not work (for me). The
expressions
stay below the staff. Am I missing something? I don't get it.
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Subject: Re: [Finale] Expression positioning
On 6 Jun 2005 at 8:44, Darcy James Argue wrote:
You need to use a separate set of dynamics for vocal staves, defined
to go above the staff instead of below.
There is a Choral Dynamics library (already set up for placement above
the staff) in the Maestro Font folder inside your Libraries
On Jun 6, 2005, at 2:23 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
Either that, or you should be able to position the dynamics above or
below the staff. This seems especially so if, as I understand from
the description, the same UI for horizontal baseline positioning that
is found with lyrics is being re-used
On 6 Jun 2005 at 15:04, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jun 6, 2005, at 2:23 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
Either that, or you should be able to position the dynamics above or
below the staff. This seems especially so if, as I understand from
the description, the same UI for horizontal baseline
On Jun 6, 2005, at 3:30 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
I assume you have the same number of options with multiple triangles
that move the baseline in different contexts, as with lyrics, where
the last triangle moves the baseline for a single system in page
view?
Yes, the interface is identical
On 6 Jun 2005 at 16:11, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jun 6, 2005, at 3:30 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
I assume you have the same number of options with multiple triangles
that move the baseline in different contexts, as with lyrics, where
the last triangle moves the baseline for a single
Yes, the interface is identical (but isn't it the SECOND last one
that does what you say?
Yes, I think that's what David meant.
I've never found a use for the last triangle.)
That may be the biggest mystery (for me) in my long experience with
Finale!
Chuck
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At 02:46 AM 09/30/2004, Michael Cook wrote:
At 16:19 -0400 29/09/2004, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Personally, I would prefer that it work the way it looks like it
ought to. Bottom Note position ought to line up the baselines of the
expression and the bottom notehead, taking into account the
additional
Aaron Sherber writes:
When I create a note expression with vertical positioning set to top note
or bottom note and then place that expression in the score with a metatool,
the expression actually places itself vertically at the click position. I
have to right-click and choose Remove Manual
At 02:27 AM 09/29/2004, Jari Williamsson wrote:
Why not just press backspace?
Because I didn't know that that did the same thing!
Anyway, problem still there in Fin2005 initial release.
Thanks -- I'll send it in to winsupport.
Aaron.
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This works for me in Finale 2004c...Mac or PC? Here's what I did:
Opened a new default doc
Edited the marking to be top note positioning
Added an A above middle C and an E a fifth above to make a chord.
Applied the marking.
If I move the entire chord up in simple entry, the the
At 11:09 AM 09/29/2004, Allen Fisher wrote:
This works for me in Finale 2004c...Mac or PC? Here's what I did:
Opened a new default doc
Edited the marking to be top note positioning
Added an A above middle C and an E a fifth above to make a chord.
Applied the marking.
If I move the
Allen Fisher writes:
What am I missing?
Perhaps you didn't apply the expression in the document using a
metatool?
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
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At 11:47 AM 09/29/2004, Jari Williamsson wrote:
Allen Fisher writes:
What am I missing?
Perhaps you didn't apply the expression in the document using a
metatool?
Actually, you can see the same thing even if you apply the expression using
the expression selection dialog. The Note Expression
This is one of those curious Finale features. While we were
beta-testing 2004 I chanced on this and reported it as a bug, but it
is actually meant to work that way. The three settings Top Note,
Bottom Note and Vertical Click Position are designed so that in each
of the three cases the
At 03:25 PM 09/29/2004, Michael Cook wrote:
This is one of those curious Finale features.
I was afraid someone was going to say that.
While we were
beta-testing 2004 I chanced on this and reported it as a bug, but it
is actually meant to work that way.
Then the graphic which displays to illustrate
WinFin2004b
When I create a note expression with vertical positioning set to top note
or bottom note and then place that expression in the score with a metatool,
the expression actually places itself vertically at the click position. I
have to right-click and choose Remove Manual Adjustments to
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