Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-29 Thread shirling & neueweise
thanks to all for the comments. At 17:02 +0100 1/28/07, Daniel Wolf wrote: I've lived in Germany since 1989. I can't imagine that there is a law regulating the format of sheet music but there may be either a state regulation for workplaces or an agreement in the individual orchestra's employm

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-28 Thread John Howell
At 1:48 PM -0500 1/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You all do know that in the USA there are union specifications for the size of parts & amount of staves for the major orchestras. No, I don't think we do know that; at least I don't. Could you provide specifics? There are MOLA guidelines, of

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-28 Thread Carl Dershem
Lora Crighton wrote: --- Daniel Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In fact, I've often been surprised at how tolerant musicians are of parts with bad page turns etc.. We're just resigned to it - so much of the music I buy has really evil page turns that I don't even comment on it anymore.

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-28 Thread Lora Crighton
--- Daniel Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In fact, > I've often been surprised at how tolerant musicians > are of parts with > bad page turns etc.. > We're just resigned to it - so much of the music I buy has really evil page turns that I don't even comment on it anymore. -- Io la Musi

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-28 Thread VivianAR
You all do know that in the USA there are union specifications for the size of parts & amount of staves for the major orchestras. And even if you are a freelance composer with a small job for a symphony performer, you better have those parts in the same whatever. Vivian Vivian Adelberg Rudow

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-28 Thread Daniel Wolf
I've lived in Germany since 1989. I can't imagine that there is a law regulating the format of sheet music but there may be either a state regulation for workplaces or an agreement in the individual orchestra's employment contract regarding the legibility of reading materials, i,e, it would be

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.01.2007 shirling & neueweise wrote: As to whether it's a "law" or not, I find it hard to believe that the German government would have wasted time enacting any law governing the size and other specifications of orchestra music. hmmm, you've never spent time in germany, have you? Now,

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-28 Thread Robert Patterson
shirling & neueweise wrote: i long ago came to the conclusion that an orchestra is not a musical body, but a political one. Every group of humans larger than one is a political body. Orchestras are certainly no exception. Professional orchestras are beyond political: each one is a tribe. A

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-28 Thread dhbailey
shirling & neueweise wrote: In the future, if you will be dealing with any orchestras in Germany, ask them what size paper and what size staves and margins and inter-staff space they want, and keep the printed response with you at all times. yeah, it just pisses me off that they are so easy

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-28 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jan 28, 2007, at 7:21 AM, dhbailey wrote: shirling & neueweise wrote: [snip] i can't do anything to avoid things like the violist who stuck a white cloth on the tip of his bow and waved it above his head like a flag during the single run-through dress rehearsal, but i want to try and

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-28 Thread shirling & neueweise
In the future, if you will be dealing with any orchestras in Germany, ask them what size paper and what size staves and margins and inter-staff space they want, and keep the printed response with you at all times. yeah, it just pisses me off that they are so easy to throw it at you but don'

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-28 Thread dhbailey
shirling & neueweise wrote: [snip] i can't do anything to avoid things like the violist who stuck a white cloth on the tip of his bow and waved it above his head like a flag during the single run-through dress rehearsal, but i want to try and avoid having materials i spent time and money on be

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-27 Thread Aaron Rabushka
bushk - Original Message - From: "Andrew Stiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] parts - german laws > > On Jan 27, 2007, at 11:14 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: > > > > > hi, recently a german

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-27 Thread John Howell
At 5:14 AM +0100 1/28/07, shirling & neueweise wrote: hi, recently a german orchestra refused to use the parts that i had prepared for them, claiming they didn't meet the laws on minimum size. it must be said that they were looking for pretty much any excuse not to play the piece in fact, an

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-27 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jan 27, 2007, at 11:14 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: hi, recently a german orchestra refused to use the parts that i had prepared for them, claiming they didn't meet the laws on minimum size. it must be said that they were looking for pretty much any excuse not to play the piece in fa

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-27 Thread Aaron Rabushka
age - From: "shirling & neueweise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:14 PM Subject: [Finale] parts - german laws > > hi, recently a german orchestra refused to use the parts that i had > prepared for them, claiming they didn't meet the l

Re: [Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-27 Thread Chuck Israels
This sounds entirely like you got caught in local politics. I have seen this kind of thing (not exactly - but similar attitude) when working at the WDR in Koln. I spent a week there - working with Bill Dobbins, who was then the leader of that band. Bill is a consummate musician and an i

[Finale] parts - german laws

2007-01-27 Thread shirling & neueweise
hi, recently a german orchestra refused to use the parts that i had prepared for them, claiming they didn't meet the laws on minimum size. it must be said that they were looking for pretty much any excuse not to play the piece in fact, and they found one in this law! the festival director wo