Re: [Fink-devel] ensuring downloadability of Perl modules

2003-12-16 Thread Michael G Schwern
and combine it with the old stuff from BackPAN. BackPAN is a few gigs, but it doesn't change very often so rsync should be able to make short work of it after the initial download. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ And it's made from all-natural baby

Re: [Fink-devel] current fink HEAD

2003-11-27 Thread Michael G Schwern
, I should probably start doing some manual testing until we get better coverage. What do most people do? -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ the chair. it wants to die. oh no! she sees me! she attacks

Re: [Fink-devel] Why doesn't Fink::FinkVersion use Fink::Config?

2003-11-25 Thread Michael G Schwern
things that'll probably blow up horribly when $basepath isn't set in the config file. However, Fink::Config will die without a basepath. Argh! What we need is some way to supply defaults to new_with_path() which is what I'll code up. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Fink-devel] another test failure

2003-11-25 Thread Michael G Schwern
failing to stat a file it doesn't own again. Its possible this is because you have t/ set some funky way. Try the new version. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ That you be hanged by the neck, but not until you are dead, but that you be taken down

Re: [Fink-devel] another test failure

2003-11-25 Thread Michael G Schwern
. I'll try the latest version after I reboot back to 10.2. Does it not fail in 10.3? -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Home of da bomb --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program

Re: [Fink-devel] Stripping libraries

2003-11-23 Thread Michael G Schwern
some benchmarks to back up these claims. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ If you like stomach viruses, this is the movie for you. -- Review of 'The Secret Lives of Dentists' --- This SF.net

Re: [Fink-devel] Stripping libraries

2003-11-23 Thread Michael G Schwern
? That's why you need some numbers. If this is only going to speed most small programs up by, say, 1% its probably not worth it. If its 10%, maybe. If its 50%, sure. But right now we don't know anything. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ You and your

[Fink-devel] Perl testing docs

2003-11-20 Thread Michael G Schwern
the whole output of make test and post that. Too much information is better than not enough. The failing tests contain diagnostic information that's often enough to figure out what's gone wrong. PS Write O'Reilly and tell them a perl testing book would be a GREAT IDEA! ;) -- Michael G Schwern

Re: [Fink-devel] Don't disable tests. Report the failure. (was Re: fink ChangeLog,1.181,1.182 Makefile,1.4,1.5)

2003-11-20 Thread Michael G Schwern
less than 2.00 then you have a shadowing problem. Check perldoc -l Test::Harness to find out what file Perl is loading for Test::Harness. Again, unless I can see the failure report this is complete guesswork. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Stupid am

Re: [Fink-devel] Don't disable tests. Report the failure. (was Re: fink ChangeLog,1.181,1.182 Makefile,1.4,1.5)

2003-11-20 Thread Michael G Schwern
be finding ours first if we're setting PERL5LIB? Looks like it is. So something else is going wrong. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ mendel ScHWeRnsChweRNsChWErN SchweRN SCHWErNSChwERnsCHwERN sChWErn ScHWeRn schweRn

Re: [Fink-devel] make test failure report (run on CVS HEAD, just now)

2003-11-20 Thread Michael G Schwern
. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ I know you get this a lot, but what's an unholy fairy like you doing in a mosque like this? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net

Re: [Fink-devel] Failed make test

2003-11-20 Thread Michael G Schwern
can put the little @VERSION@ replacement line into the Makefile easy enough and make sure Fink::FinkVersion is generated before the tests are run. I'll work on that now. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ They just don't make any good porn music anymore

[Fink-devel] Fink::FinkVersion dependency fixed

2003-11-20 Thread Michael G Schwern
generated. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Beef Coronary --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better

[Fink-devel] Don't disable tests. Report the failure. (was Re: fink ChangeLog,1.181,1.182 Makefile,1.4,1.5)

2003-11-19 Thread Michael G Schwern
didn't see any mention of this error until I saw the test disabled on fink-commits. Maybe it was on fink-core, but that list is unavailable to me. I have a good idea why the test might be failing for some people, but can't be sure until there's a report. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL

[Fink-devel] Basic style guide (was Re: fink/perlmod/Fink Bootstrap.pm,1.40,1.41 Command.pm,1.3,1.4 Config.pm,1.25,1.26 Mirror.pm,1.10,1.11)

2003-11-16 Thread Michael G Schwern
= shift; + $self-SUPER::set_param($key, @_); + push @{$self-{_queue}}, $key; } =item save -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ 7a. Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two (you can't have all three). -- RFC 1925

[Fink-devel] get_perl_dir_arch() and Type: perl (was Re: fink/t/PkgVersion get_perl.t,1.2,1.3)

2003-11-16 Thread Michael G Schwern
{^/ 5 \. \d{1,2} \. \d{1,2} $}x ); like( $perlarch, qr{^darwin} ); unlike( $perlarch, qr{[=']}, 'not picking up extra cruft from -V' ); unlike( $perlarch, qr/\n/,'no stray newlines in perlarch' ); -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ WOOHOO! I'm

Re: [Fink-devel] get_perl_dir_arch() and Type: perl (was Re: fink/t/PkgVersion get_perl.t,1.2,1.3)

2003-11-16 Thread Michael G Schwern
. Since you seem to know the function better than I do could you write up some get_perl_arch_dir() docs and write up the proper test? -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ I'm not actually Kevin Lenzo, but I play him on TV

Re: [Fink-devel] Basic style guide (was Re: fink/perlmod/Fink Bootstrap.pm,1.40,1.41 Command.pm,1.3,1.4 Config.pm,1.25,1.26 Mirror.pm,1.10,1.11)

2003-11-16 Thread Michael G Schwern
right. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Let me check my notes. http://www.sluggy.com --- This SF. Net email is sponsored by: GoToMyPC GoToMyPC is the fast, easy and secure way to access your

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/t/PkgVersion get_perl.t,1.3,1.4

2003-11-16 Thread Michael G Schwern
the behavior has changed. Change the test to match. Its really very simple. I'll do this one. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ mendel ScHWeRnsChweRNsChWErN SchweRN SCHWErNSChwERnsCHwERN sChWErn ScHWeRn schweRn sCHWErN

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/t/PkgVersion get_perl.t,1.3,1.4

2003-11-16 Thread Michael G Schwern
. And get_perl_arch_dir(). I'd planned to add tests for more hacked-upon parts of the code before letting the cat fully out of the bag, but it seems the cat has escaped anyway and doing just fine. :) -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Here's hoping you don't harbor

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/t/PkgVersion get_perl.t,1.3,1.4

2003-11-16 Thread Michael G Schwern
don't go and install the thing. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ They had applied the blinders of steam-grilled hamburgers to my eyes. --- This SF. Net email is sponsored by: GoToMyPC GoToMyPC

[Fink-devel] Re: About perl modules (was: Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.405,1.406 PkgVersion.pm,1.169,1.170)

2003-11-14 Thread Michael G Schwern
of having fink install a symlink /sw/lib/perl5/darwin-thread-multi-2level - /sw/lib/perl5/darwin. Does this sound like a good idea? I don't think so. Anything in /sw/lib/perl5/darwin compiled for 5.6.0 won't work with 5.8.1 because they're not binary compatible. -- Michael G Schwern

Re: [Fink-devel] About perl modules (was: Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.405,1.406 PkgVersion.pm,1.169,1.170)

2003-11-14 Thread Michael G Schwern
. Otherwise something's really broken. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ If your module passes test You're one of the very best Don't fuck up the MANIFEST Burma-Shave - ignatz --- This SF.Net

Re: [Fink-devel] About perl modules (was: Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.405,1.406 PkgVersion.pm,1.169,1.170)

2003-11-14 Thread Michael G Schwern
to decide to turn on things like threads and 64bit ints. Otherwise they'd have to wait for 5.10. So it was a perfectly sensible thing to do. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Out of ammunition. God save the King

[Fink-devel] Why doesn't Fink::FinkVersion use Fink::Config?

2003-11-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
to run inject.pl. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Let me check my notes. http://www.sluggy.com --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand

[Fink-devel] Split fink-commits?

2003-11-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
? Or a list created which doesn't have those commits? That would make watching changes to the parts of the code you're interested in a bit easier. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ It's Airplane Glue sniffing time

[Fink-devel] execute() - Fink::Command

2003-11-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
it over first. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Beef Coronary --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/t/PkgVersion get_perl.t,NONE,1.1 sed-4.0.5-1.info,NONE,1.1

2003-11-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
'runtests(@ARGV)' + @cd t find . -name '*.t' | xargs perl -I../perlmod -MTest::Harness -e 'runtests(@ARGV)' .PHONY: all test install -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Though we adore men individually, we agree that as a group they're rather

[Fink-devel] Sorry for the double posts

2003-11-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
My MTA had one of its periodic arguments with SourceForge's MTA. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ How would you describe TKB? As a disk exerciser? The first manufacturer supplied computer virus? -- Carl Friedberg in [EMAIL

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.405,1.406 PkgVersion.pm,1.169,1.170

2003-11-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
'; } - } - return ($perldirectory, $perlarchdir); + return ($perldirectory, $perlarchdir,$perlcmd); } ### EOF -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ I've just gone through a lung-crushing breakup with my blender and I don't think I

Re: [Fink-devel] Split fink-commits?

2003-11-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:18:39AM -0500, Daniel Macks wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 07:32:44PM -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote: I have a request. The amount of mail on fink-commits generated by .info and .patch file changes is rather daunting. Could the fink-commits list be split

Re: [Fink-devel] Discussions on fink-commits@lists.sourceforge.net

2003-11-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
exceptions for everybody who had them before. Please from now on direct all your replies on that list to fink-devel (and possibly change the subject line to something sensible). Could you set the Reply-To on the fink-commits messages to fink-devel? -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL

Re: [Fink-devel] Begining of a fink roadmap, this is just an overview draft

2003-11-09 Thread Michael G Schwern
for testing. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Shrtr is btr. -- Abhijit Menon-Sen in [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn

Re: [Fink-devel] Begining of a fink roadmap, this is just an overview draft

2003-11-09 Thread Michael G Schwern
totally confused and punching at air. Excellent. *sweeps all this complexity under a rug* Now back to just worrying about testing the modules. :) -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Let me check my notes. http://www.sluggy.com

Re: [Fink-devel] Begining of a fink roadmap, this is just an overview draft

2003-11-08 Thread Michael G Schwern
the installation process, but I can certainly tell you how it should work. :) -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ I sit on the floor and pick my nose and think of dirty things Of deviant dwarfs who suck their toes and elves who drub their dings

Re: [Fink-devel] Begining of a fink roadmap, this is just an overview draft

2003-11-08 Thread Michael G Schwern
. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ WOOHOO! I'm going to Disneyland! http://www.goats.com/archive/980805.html --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn

Re: [Fink-devel] Getting source

2003-11-04 Thread Michael G Schwern
in your /sw/fink/dists/ directory. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ If at first you don't succeed, call in an air strike. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does

Re: [Fink-devel] Fink module documentation, tests and all that icky stuff.

2003-10-30 Thread Michael G Schwern
running fine without docs and tests for a while now, it can wait a few more weeks until 10.3 settles down. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ IMHO bugs in Perl 5 shouldn't carry over to Perl 6. (Unless, of course, we *like* the bugs... ;) -- Ken Fox

Re: [Fink-devel] Fink module documentation, tests and all that icky stuff.

2003-10-30 Thread Michael G Schwern
or if nothing else, $item-[NAME] to make it a little more easier to read. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Do not try comedy at home! Milk Cheese are advanced experts! Attempts at comedy can be dangerously unfunny

Re: [Fink-devel] #fink Channel (was: Re: dists-0.6.0 Problem)

2003-10-30 Thread Michael G Schwern
, are more comfortable with IRC and probably have been using it for years. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ WOOHOO! I'm going to Disneyland! http://www.goats.com/archive/980805.html --- This SF.net

Re: [Fink-devel] #fink Channel (was: Re: dists-0.6.0 Problem)

2003-10-30 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 02:44:46PM -0800, David Brown wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 02:25:35PM -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 02:00:05PM +0100, Julien Salort wrote: Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was told in the #fink channel that I should tell you

[Fink-devel] real_install() questions

2003-10-30 Thread Michael G Schwern
-package_by_name(). PACKAGE looks like its a PkgVersion object maybe? Could someone explain? -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Monkey tennis --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does

[Fink-devel] Commit doc/test patches?

2003-10-30 Thread Michael G Schwern
Would anyone mind if I committed the small pile of doc/test patches I have in the tracker? I'm starting to work on more and I'm afraid of drift. The tracker numbers are: 832828 832822 832063 831614 And there's the little cleanup I did here: 831573 -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Fink-devel] XML::LibXML cpan test problems

2003-10-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
PROTECTED] http://search.cpan.org/~phish/XML-LibXML-1.56/ If you notice in the CPAN testers reports, lots of other people are having problems with findnodes. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Woah, like, did anybody see my watch

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Dependency of dpkg on perl580

2003-10-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
/perl - /sw/bin/perl symlink? That seems much easier. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Playstation? Of course Perl runs on Playstation. -- Jarkko Hietaniemi --- This SF.net email is sponsored

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Dependency of dpkg on perl580

2003-10-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
exception of a fink-installed xfree86). No no, have system-perl do ln -s /usr/bin/perl /sw/bin/perl. So /sw/bin/perl exists and points to /usr/bin/perl. That way both #!/sw/bin/perl and #!/usr/bin/perl both work and use the Apple installed Perl. /usr isn't touched. -- Michael G Schwern

[Fink-devel] Fink module documentation, tests and all that icky stuff.

2003-10-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
and do you care? Can I go ahead and supply patches that will improve and change the module interface? -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ 1. It Has To Work. -- RFC 1925 --- This SF.net email

Re: [Fink-devel] xfree86-{base,rootless} no network?

2003-10-28 Thread Michael G Schwern
XDarwin, but Debian starts the X server without network connections by default as a security issue. $ cat /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp You might want to look for something like that. -- Michael G Schwern[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com

Re: [Fink-devel] How to rebuild all fink packages installed in 10.2-gcc3.3 rsync?

2003-10-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
package command? I'm not sure how to properly script that? If nobody gives you anything better... #!/usr/bin/perl -w my @installed = map { /^\s +i \s+ (\S+)/x; $1 } grep /^\s+i /, `fink list -i`; print(fink rebuild @installed); #system(fink rebuild @installed); -- Michael G