[Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jim Wilson -- Thursday 20 May 2004 01:46: Melchior FRANZ said: Here's a small MetaPost file that I used to make the Bo105 rotor tacho (which is totally made up; need some expert advice first): Check out: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/438320/L/ Hey, very cool. The best cockpit

[Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Roy Vegard Ovesen -- Wednesday 19 May 2004 22:22: http://home.tiscali.no/rvovesen/fuel.png (19,964 bytes) Nice! With the MetaPost user number at least doubling within just one day I'd say that this is now the preferred way to make instrument faces. ;-)

[Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Thursday 20 May 2004 09:37: What I would [...]: (1) [...] (2) [...] (2) [...] (3) [...] And finally: (7) learn to count m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Flightgear-devel] Atlas CVS: fails to render 1024x1024 png maps

2004-05-20 Thread Chris Metzler
Hi. I should probably be asking this in atlas-devel, but at first glance it looks pretty dead there; and I'm guessing someone here has encountered this, or can easily. I recently built Atlas from CVS (that took some work, but that's a different conversation). I then set about generating maps,

[Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Josh Babcock -- Thursday 20 May 2004 01:01: On Tuesday 18 May 2004 19:09, Melchior FRANZ wrote: http://members.aon.at/mfranz/tach.mp (1.9kB) [instrument faces created with MetaPost] Ok, this stuff looks really cool, but I am encountering a pretty steep learning curve with MetaPost.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] YASim prop changes

2004-05-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jim Wilson wrote Andy Ross said: Vivian Meazza wrote: Performance: max = 437mph at combat emergency power at 25000ft, 413mph at 15000ft, 395mph at 5000ft, cruising speed 362mph, climb rate 3475 ft/min. Service ceiling 41,900ft. How much is combat emergency power? The

[Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
BTW: this is my little transparency trick: in my fgfs.mp library file I have this: color foreground, transparent; background:=black; transparent:=white; white:=255/256white; foreground:=white; which lets white actually be written as 254/254/254 ... white enough (who needs true

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New contributor questions: taxiway and airport stuff; 3D building/landmark model stuff.

2004-05-20 Thread David Luff
On 5/17/04 at 12:58 PM Chris Metzler wrote: At any rate, as far as manually placing them and putting that capability in TaxiDraw, sure, that'd be cool! In the short-term, though, I have another request: a scrollbar slider for the taxiway list brought up with the z key. You can use numpad 9

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: JSBSim Cessna 172p stability patch

2004-05-20 Thread David Megginson
Jon Berndt wrote: Thanks, David. There are a couple of things I can think of to do, here. One is that I sure wish I had time to make a DATCOM model of the C-172 that could give me some aero data for comparison. But with my schedule now I can't make any promises, but I will get to this someday!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: JSBSim Cessna 172p stability patch

2004-05-20 Thread David Megginson
Jon Berndt wrote: Given these numbers I'd suspect that if there is a problem, perhaps we need to review our MoI's. That makes a lot of sense -- I was worried that the damping numbers were masking a different problem. All the best, David ___

RE: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: JSBSim Cessna 172p stability patch

2004-05-20 Thread Jon Berndt
That is a tricky issue, because using spring-loaded controllers gives a significantly different feel than fully-loaded aircraft controls, and there is always a danger of altering the flight characteristics to compensate for the control differences. FWIW, I sent an email to Cessna customer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Al West
On Thursday 20 May 2004 08:13, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Looks like Maik's rotor RPM numbers are off (442 RPM). I can't make sense of the dual tacho. What doesn't make sense? ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Flightgear-devel] WARNING: Flightgear spam attack; open relay at baron.me.umn.edu

2004-05-20 Thread David Megginson
I'm under a serious spam attack from an infected computer of someone on the list. Here is where the spam is originating: user-24-214-247-18.knology.net Many of the spams are arriving with Curt's e-mail address spoofed on them, and unfortunately, baron.me.umn.edu seems happy to relay them for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] WARNING: Flightgear spam attack; open relay at baron.me.umn.edu

2004-05-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson wrote: I'm under a serious spam attack from an infected computer of someone on the list. Here is where the spam is originating: user-24-214-247-18.knology.net Many of the spams are arriving with Curt's e-mail address spoofed on them, and unfortunately, baron.me.umn.edu seems

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Jim Wilson
Melchior FRANZ said: * Jim Wilson -- Thursday 20 May 2004 01:46: Melchior FRANZ said: Here's a small MetaPost file that I used to make the Bo105 rotor tacho (which is totally made up; need some expert advice first): Check out: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/438320/L/ Hey,

[Flightgear-devel] animation bug

2004-05-20 Thread Josh Babcock
I think I found another bug in the animation code. Here is a snippet of the xml. This code (with the comment) causes both of the right hand objects to move when the right brake is applied. This does not happen to the left pedal arm since I commented out the left pedal from the rudder

[Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Al West -- Thursday 20 May 2004 14:43: On Thursday 20 May 2004 08:13, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Looks like Maik's rotor RPM numbers are off (442 RPM). I can't make sense of the dual tacho. What doesn't make sense? The ticks are labeled from 0 to 140, with a lot of colored marks around 100.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jim Wilson -- Thursday 20 May 2004 15:18: The rotor can exceed the drive shaft speed (e.g. autorotation). Is that what you are asking? No, I couldn't see where 442 would fit into that scale, and what 140 should stand for (140 RPM? ... too low; or 14000 RPM? ... too high), but ... Those

Re: [Flightgear-devel] WARNING: Flightgear spam attack; open relay at baron.me.umn.edu

2004-05-20 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson said: David Megginson wrote: I'm under a serious spam attack from an infected computer of someone on the list. Here is where the spam is originating: user-24-214-247-18.knology.net Many of the spams are arriving with Curt's e-mail address spoofed on them, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] animation bug

2004-05-20 Thread Jim Wilson
Josh Babcock said: I think I found another bug in the animation code. Here is a snippet of the xml. This code (with the comment) causes both of the right hand objects to move when the right brake is applied. This does not happen to the left pedal arm since I commented out the left pedal

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote * Jim Wilson -- Thursday 20 May 2004 15:18: The rotor can exceed the drive shaft speed (e.g. autorotation). Is that what you are asking? No, I couldn't see where 442 would fit into that scale, and what 140 should stand for (140 RPM? ... too low; or 14000

Re: [Flightgear-devel] WARNING: Flightgear spam attack; open relay at baron.me.umn.edu

2004-05-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Jim Wilson wrote: Curtis L. Olson said: David Megginson wrote: I'm under a serious spam attack from an infected computer of someone on the list. Here is where the spam is originating: user-24-214-247-18.knology.net Many of the spams are arriving with Curt's e-mail

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Al West
On Thursday 20 May 2004 14:02, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Al West -- Thursday 20 May 2004 14:43: On Thursday 20 May 2004 08:13, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Looks like Maik's rotor RPM numbers are off (442 RPM). I can't make sense of the dual tacho. What doesn't make sense? The ticks are

[Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear news letter

2004-05-20 Thread Pablo J. Rogina
I hope not to be late with my suggestions for the upcoming FG newsletter. Title: Higher, Faster, Farther. But Simulated. I think this reflects what FG is all about: aviation and simulation Size Format Frequency: Looking at JSBSim newsletter, I think that's pretty cool: 4 pages (no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] animation bug

2004-05-20 Thread Josh Babcock
Jim Wilson wrote: Josh Babcock said: I think I found another bug in the animation code. Here is a snippet of the xml. This code (with the comment) causes both of the right hand objects to move when the right brake is applied. This does not happen to the left pedal arm since I commented out

[Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Thursday 20 May 2004 16:07: Melchior FRANZ wrote only the rotor hand, though, because there's no turbine RPM in YASim (?). Maybe I'll make the turbine RPM up with Nasal ... [...] N1 N2 ? Yes, but there's no way to start/stop the turbines in YASim, so the values don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Andy Ross
Melchior FRANZ wrote: hh ... now that makes sense. I couldn't read the word PERCENT. I guess one needs to be native English speaker to be able to decipher that. OK, I'll do this instrument now -- only the rotor hand, though, because there's no turbine RPM in YASim (?). Maybe I'll make the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote * Vivian Meazza -- Thursday 20 May 2004 16:07: Melchior FRANZ wrote only the rotor hand, though, because there's no turbine RPM in YASim (?). Maybe I'll make the turbine RPM up with Nasal ... [...] N1 N2 ? Yes, but there's no way to start/stop the turbines

[Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Thursday 20 May 2004 17:00: [turbine RPM] They go from idle to max, isn't that enough? no m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFD: JSBSim Cessna 172p stability patch

2004-05-20 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 05:17, David Megginson wrote: Jon Berndt wrote: Thanks, David. There are a couple of things I can think of to do, here. One is that I sure wish I had time to make a DATCOM model of the C-172 that could give me some aero data for comparison. But with my schedule

[Flightgear-devel] Re: making instrument scales with MetaPost

2004-05-20 Thread Melchior FRANZ
OK, here's a new version, just so you can see how easy instrument face creation with MetaPost is. Note that there's a function @() defined, that maps the real instrument angles to MetaPost angles. So I could directly input all the values as I saw them on the cockpit photo. Also, the program

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New contributor questions: taxiway and airport stuff; 3D building/landmark model stuff.

2004-05-20 Thread Jon Stockill
David Luff wrote: I'm not entirely sure where the acceptable number of segments / amount of detail trade-off will end up. Jon Stockill has done some very detailed UK military layouts with hundreds of segments to show all the dispersal areas, but I don't think he's submitted them yet. So far the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] animation bug

2004-05-20 Thread Jim Wilson
Vivian Meazza said: Josh Babcock wrote: I think I found another bug in the animation code. Here is a snippet of the xml. This code (with the comment) causes both of the right hand objects to move when the right brake is applied. This does not happen to the left pedal

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Atlas CVS: fails to render 1024x1024 png maps

2004-05-20 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 20 May 2004 08:43, Chris Metzler wrote: Hi. I should probably be asking this in atlas-devel, but at first glance it looks pretty dead there; and I'm guessing someone here has encountered this, or can easily. I recently built Atlas from CVS (that took some work, but that's a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] WARNING: Flightgear spam attack; open relay at baron.me.umn.edu

2004-05-20 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 20 May 2004 13:51, David Megginson wrote: I'm under a serious spam attack from an infected computer of someone on the list. Here is where the spam is originating: user-24-214-247-18.knology.net Many of the spams are arriving with Curt's e-mail address spoofed on them, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] WARNING: Flightgear spam attack; open relay at baron.me.umn.edu

2004-05-20 Thread David Megginson
Lee Elliott wrote: I'm under a serious spam attack from an infected computer of someone on the list. Here is where the spam is originating: user-24-214-247-18.knology.net These e-mails almost certainly have spoofed 'From' addresses and just about the only thing you can be sure of is that they

Re: [Flightgear-devel] WARNING: Flightgear spam attack; open relay at baron.me.umn.edu

2004-05-20 Thread Chris Metzler
On Thu, 20 May 2004 15:34:02 -0400 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: I'm under a serious spam attack from an infected computer of someone on thelist. Here is where the spam is originating: user-24-214-247-18.knology.net These e-mails almost certainly have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] WARNING: Flightgear spam attack

2004-05-20 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: The worst b*ds in this whole mess are [...] the enterprise anti-virus software vendors, who sell systems that automatically send useless virus warnings every time a message like this comes. Either (a) they're complete idiots who couldn't be trusted with the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] WARNING: Flightgear spam attack; open relay at baron.me.umn.edu

2004-05-20 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Thursday 20 May 2004 8:48 pm, Chris Metzler wrote: On Thu, 20 May 2004 15:34:02 -0400 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If anyone one the list has the IP address 24.214.247.18 right now and is unfortunate enough to use Windows and Outlook, please disconnect your ethernet

Re: [Flightgear-devel] WARNING: Flightgear spam attack; open relay at baron.me.umn.edu

2004-05-20 Thread Chris Metzler
On Thu, 20 May 2004 21:26:39 +0100 Jonathan Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 May 2004 8:48 pm, Chris Metzler wrote: On Thu, 20 May 2004 15:34:02 -0400 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If anyone one the list has the IP address 24.214.247.18 right now and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] WARNING: Flightgear spam attack

2004-05-20 Thread David Megginson
Andy Ross wrote: (a) they're complete idiots who couldn't be trusted with the washroom key at a gas station, much less corporate network security; Would this be a good time to point out that my day job is at McAfee Security (the artist formerly known as Network Associates)? :) OK, I'll revise that

[Flightgear-devel] JSBSim C-172 Performance

2004-05-20 Thread Jon S Berndt
Well, I got a note back from Cessna and (as I pretty much expected) they were tight-lipped about supplying any aero/mass props data, saying instead that the owner's manual was about all I could get. After thinking about this some more, there are three possibilities I can see for any perceived

Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to get cesna to follow a set of way points.

2004-05-20 Thread Seamus Thomas Carroll
Hi Jim, I was the one who asked this question but when i tried to implement the solution it resulted in the same flight behaviour. I will detail the changes i implemented so you can see if i did anything incorrectly. 1) I changed, in file Aircraft/c172/c172-610x-null-set.xml,

[Flightgear-devel] multiple windows problem again - heading still not working

2004-05-20 Thread Keeyoung Choi \(???\)
Hi I posted a message that adjusting the offset for the side windows is not working with the new version. Curt suggested a method. (See the attachment). What he suggested works for the pitch axis, but not for the heading. I tried both the Linux and Windows version, but nothing works. Would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to get cesna to follow a set of way points.

2004-05-20 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Thursday 20 May 2004 23:50, Seamus Thomas Carroll wrote: Hi Jim, I was the one who asked this question but when i tried to implement the solution it resulted in the same flight behaviour. I will detail the changes i implemented so you can see if i did anything incorrectly. 1) I changed,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim C-172 Performance

2004-05-20 Thread David Megginson
Jon S Berndt wrote: 3) This one just occurred to me: I wonder if the control inputs from stick and rudder are linear? Or, are they perhaps graduated? The controller devices can be all over the place, but as I mentioned, I'm trying to factor that out -- for example, I'm looking at how the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim C-172 Performance

2004-05-20 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 20 May 2004 18:48:13 -0400 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you might have been onto something with the moments of inertia: our current IXX, IYY, and IZZ apply to a Cessna 182, which is a heavier plane than a 172, though with the same wing area and wingspan. Here are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim C-172 Performance

2004-05-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt wrote: Well, I got a note back from Cessna and (as I pretty much expected) they were tight-lipped about supplying any aero/mass props data, saying instead that the owner's manual was about all I could get. You could always send up a volunteer to do some flight testing. :-) Don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim C-172 Performance

2004-05-20 Thread David Megginson
Jon S Berndt wrote: I'm not sure I see how the 182 figures into this. Higher values for MoI will make the aircraft slower to react to control inputs, and slower to react to damping. From your discussion yesterday I got the feeling that you were stating that the 172 was too wild - i.e. it was

RE: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim C-172 Performance

2004-05-20 Thread Jon Berndt
2) The MoIs are too low. This is possible - I have not yet checked these out, but again I believe we will find these numbers to be pretty good. I have access to a commercial C172 model that has been FAA certified for a level 3 FTD. I wish I could share more of it, but I will say that

RE: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim C-172 Performance

2004-05-20 Thread Jon Berndt
Relevant technical reports (I think the C-172 is included in this report): http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/DTRS/1966/Bib/H-451.html Abstract: A review of existing criteria indicated that the criteria have not kept pace with aircraft development in the areas of dutch roll, adverse yaw, effective

Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to get cesna to follow a set of way points.

2004-05-20 Thread Seamus Thomas Carroll
Thanks Roy, I looked at the post and it is dated the day i left so i must have missed it. I would like the autopilot to adjust to new waypoints faster but I do not know how to make the plane turn quicker using the generic autopilot. Looking at the documentation i am guessing i need to modify

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Atlas CVS: fails to render 1024x1024 png maps

2004-05-20 Thread Chris Metzler
On Thu, 20 May 2004 19:54:51 +0100 Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 May 2004 08:43, Chris Metzler wrote: So it seems that 1024x1024 files are the problem. Does anyone else see this with a current Atlas from CVS? Any suggestions on what I can do to fix this? Obviously

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New contributor questions: taxiway and airport stuff; 3D building/landmark model stuff.

2004-05-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Are we using spline for the taxi way at the moment? Regards, Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel