Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread John Check
On Friday 11 October 2002 07:02 am, David Megginson wrote: > John Check writes: > > Dunno. I checked a few revisions back and didn't see anything. > > I'm committing wet tanks shortly. > > Remember that I just fixed FlightGear to stop picking up defaults from > c172.xml. Hmm. > > > All the best,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread John Check
On Friday 11 October 2002 10:30 am, Jim Wilson wrote: > Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Jon Berndt wrote: > > > Who emptied the fuel tanks? > > > > I took it out for a trip on thursday. I must have forgotten to fill it > > up again. Sorry guys. > > hehe...Curt should have caught that pref

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Alex Perry
> Yes we have, at least for the 172. Note, however, that regular fuel > gauges are not all that reliable, FAA certification standards require that fuel gauges read (1) empty when there is only unusable fuel (or less) in that tank (2) a different indication when the tank is full I suspect the on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
Frederic BOUVIER writes: > > hehe...Curt should have caught that preflight. Lucky for him > > they were bone dry :-) Maybe we should randomize tank level. > > Do we have a working fuel gauge ? Can't check for the moment. Yes we have, at least for the 172. Note, however, that regular fuel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Jim Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Jon Berndt wrote: > > > Who emptied the fuel tanks? > > > > I took it out for a trip on thursday. I must have forgotten to fill it > > up again. Sorry guys. > > > > hehe...Curt should have caught that preflight.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Jim Wilson
Norman Vine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > David Megginson writes: > > > > Please remember that FlightGear is not just a > > visualizer for batch-mode aero runs -- people use it to fly > > interactively. > > NIT: Please remember what it says on our Home Page > > """The FlightGear project is worki

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Jim Wilson
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Jon Berndt wrote: > > Who emptied the fuel tanks? > > I took it out for a trip on thursday. I must have forgotten to fill it > up again. Sorry guys. > hehe...Curt should have caught that preflight. Lucky for him they were bone dry :-) Maybe we should

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
Jon Berndt writes: > The question is: which one should override which? Unless the user setting overrides the config file, there's no point in having a user setting because the config file value will always be used. To paraphrase Henry Ford, you'll be able to start with any amount of fuel you w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
Norman Vine writes: > > Please remember that FlightGear is not just a > > visualizer for batch-mode aero runs -- people use it to fly > > interactively. > > NIT: Please remember what it says on our Home Page > > """The FlightGear project is working to create a sophisticated flight > sim

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Jon Berndt
> Jon Berndt writes: > > 1. We have several different FDMs and need a common mechanism for >setting and displaying fuel levels for all of them. > 3. When we restore a saved flight, we want to be able to start with >the same amount of fuel we had when we saved the flight. > Please remember t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: > > Please remember that FlightGear is not just a > visualizer for batch-mode aero runs -- people use it to fly > interactively. NIT: Please remember what it says on our Home Page """The FlightGear project is working to create a sophisticated flight simulator framework fo

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
Jon Berndt writes: > > Right. We allow the users to change the fuel level, so the default in > > the JSBSim config file doesn't matter. > > H. I don't like this at all. Why was this done? 1. We have several different FDMs and need a common mechanism for setting and displaying fuel le

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Jon Berndt
Jon Berndt writes: > The JSBSim config files have fuel loaded for the X15, the X24B, the C310, > the C172, etc. But NOT the shuttle (we just use it as a glider). I don't > know what this "consumables" thing it, but JSBSim loads its aircraft with > fuel in the JSBSim config files. If it has no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
Erik Hofman writes: > Jon Berndt wrote: > > Who emptied the fuel tanks? > > I took it out for a trip on thursday. I must have forgotten to fill it > up again. Sorry guys. Damn -- do you know how much condensation there must be in the tanks? I'll be draining water for half an hour. All th

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
Jon Berndt writes: > The JSBSim config files have fuel loaded for the X15, the X24B, the C310, > the C172, etc. But NOT the shuttle (we just use it as a glider). I don't > know what this "consumables" thing it, but JSBSim loads its aircraft with > fuel in the JSBSim config files. If it has no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: > John Check writes: > > Also, what happened to the runway lighting? I'm a little out of touch > > since I've spent the last week (at least) installing Gentoo > > It should still be there, isn't it? I have been working on building > more infrastructure for doing run

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread David Megginson
John Check writes: > Dunno. I checked a few revisions back and didn't see anything. > I'm committing wet tanks shortly. Remember that I just fixed FlightGear to stop picking up defaults from c172.xml. Hmm. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.co

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Jon Berndt wrote: > Who emptied the fuel tanks? I took it out for a trip on thursday. I must have forgotten to fill it up again. Sorry guys. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flight

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-11 Thread John Check
FWIW I checked the logs for the c172-set.xml: revision 1.10 date: 2002/01/19 17:18:19; author: david; state: Exp; lines: +6 -2 Added initial levels for each fuel tank (not full capacity). revision 1.9 date: 2002/01/19 03:10:07; author:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread John Check
On Friday 11 October 2002 01:17 am, Jon Berndt wrote: > > Whats the deal with the x24b fuel wise? That's missing a > > section as are the shuttle and x15 > > ?? > > The JSBSim config files have fuel loaded for the X15, the X24B, the C310, > the C172, etc. But NOT the shuttle (we just use it as a g

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread Jon Berndt
> Whats the deal with the x24b fuel wise? That's missing a > section as are the shuttle and x15 ?? The JSBSim config files have fuel loaded for the X15, the X24B, the C310, the C172, etc. But NOT the shuttle (we just use it as a glider). I don't know what this "consumables" thing it, but JSBSim

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread John Check
On Friday 11 October 2002 12:41 am, Jon Berndt wrote: > On Friday 11 October 2002 12:15 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > Is this a side effect of no longer getting the C172 defaults? > > > >That sounds like a reasonable deduction. I'm checking the rest > >of the planes to see if we need to gas up. I

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread Jon Berndt
On Friday 11 October 2002 12:15 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Is this a side effect of no longer getting the C172 defaults? >That sounds like a reasonable deduction. I'm checking the rest >of the planes to see if we need to gas up. I noticed the yasim planes >have thier own definition for fuel ins

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Check writes: > Also, what happened to the runway lighting? I'm a little out of touch > since I've spent the last week (at least) installing Gentoo It should still be there, isn't it? I have been working on building more infrastructure for doing runway/approach lighting and working on using

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread John Check
On Friday 11 October 2002 12:15 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Is this a side effect of no longer getting the C172 defaults? > That sounds like a reasonable deduction. I'm checking the rest of the planes to see if we need to gas up. I noticed the yasim planes have thier own definition for fuel insi

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d > > > On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:49 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > I'm not sure what changed, but I can no longer start the c310u3a-3d > > engines. They will fire and turn over, but as soon a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread John Check
On Friday 11 October 2002 12:08 am, John Check wrote: > On Friday 11 October 2002 12:05 am, Jon Berndt wrote: > > Who emptied the fuel tanks? > > Dunno. I checked a few revisions back and didn't see anything. > I'm committing wet tanks shortly. > I forgot to put it in the log message, but I also

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread John Check
]]On Behalf Of John Check > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d > > On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:49 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > I'm not sure what changed, but I can no longer start t

RE: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread Jon Berndt
Who emptied the fuel tanks? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Check Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:49 pm, Curtis

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread John Check
On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:49 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > I'm not sure what changed, but I can no longer start the c310u3a-3d > engines. They will fire and turn over, but as soon as I disengage the > starter, they spin back down and refuse to run. Also, they no longer > come up running by d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] starting the c310u3a-3d

2002-10-10 Thread John Check
On Thursday 10 October 2002 10:49 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > I'm not sure what changed, but I can no longer start the c310u3a-3d > engines. They will fire and turn over, but as soon as I disengage the > starter, they spin back down and refuse to run. Also, they no longer > come up running by d