Re: [FRIAM] The Last Mile, again

>   > > Thanks So much.  Can you explain the following  passage in greater > detail?  What do you mean by “over-subscription”.  > If I actually got my 10Mbps down and 5Mbps up from my provider consistently and I had say 4 devices running in my house, potentially all trying to use *all* 10/5, then

Re: [FRIAM] The Last Mile, again

Nick - I'd say there is good news and bad news... but most likely mostly good news.   (TLDR and TMI for most here): Richard Lowenberg formed a group here in SFe some 10 years ago (nearly?) called "the FIRST Mile" to turn the language around.   "Last Mile" leaves it to the industry to treat us

Re: [FRIAM] Diesel OK?

> > > > > Frank Wimberly > > > > > > www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly<http://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly> > > > > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 > >

Re: [FRIAM] Diesel OK?

I just read up a little on Selective Catalytic Reduction which seems to characterize Bruce's Urea-injection system.     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_catalytic_reduction Which is similar but different to Air Injection:     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_air_injection both in

Re: [FRIAM] Diesel OK?

On 3/29/18 9:45 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > Steve, hi, > > Two quick questions since this brings back things I was curious about > as a child: >> >> 1. >> >> >> Higher MPG >> 1. higher energy density per liter of fuel >> 2. higher compression engine (more efficient) >> 3. leaner

Re: [FRIAM] Diesel OK?

Owen - I would generally recommend diesel but have a few caveats for you: First the pros: 1. Higher MPG 1. higher energy density per liter of fuel 2. higher compression engine (more efficient) 3. leaner combustion at idle or under low load 4. better emmisions *except*

[FRIAM] Whorfianism and Xibipio

I've not participated in this discussion of  Peirciean Pragmatism for many reasons including a lack of firsthand knowledge of Peirce's work (to even vaguely approach that of Nick or Eric for example.   The talk of control loops, habits, belief and coupling with reality vs coupling with beliefs was

Re: [FRIAM] the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology?

I appreciate and second Ed's observaions here.  While my own role as an instructor during this period was very limited.   I was first a student *among* CS majors (I was a Physics/Math major with a CS minor) in the 70's when it was all pretty new by some measure and the participation by women was

Re: [FRIAM] the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology?

hompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > -Original Message- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:

[FRIAM] Fwd: Re: the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology?

that is more motivated? Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [FRIAM] the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 11:19:47 -0700 From: Steven A Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> To: uǝlƃ ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com> Glen - >> I doubt that

Re: [FRIAM] the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology?

Glen - > OK. But I believe I merely asked the question: Why talk about these vague > behaviors like "dress for sex", when we can talk about reasonably > well-defined things like hormones and neurotransmitters? What explanatory > power does evopsych have that, say, evolutionary neuroscience

Re: [FRIAM] the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology?

Dave and Nick (and others) intended.  Threads here seem to easily/naturally diverge (fray?). > > > On 02/21/2018 11:59 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: >> But don't you agree that *physiology* is NOT what is being directly >> selected for, but rather what is more directly *expre

Re: [FRIAM] the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology?

Glen - > Re: artificial distinctions -- > Allergy? No. The word "allergy" implies something like an *unhealthy*, more > than normal, immune response. My take would be that my (yes, abnormally > high) immune response to artificial discretization is *healthy* and > appropriate. Those of you

[FRIAM] Socratic Trolling

In my last contribution to the EvoPsych thread I referenced the following paper: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-the-american-philosophical-association/article/aristotle-on-trolling/540BB557C82186C33BFFB61E35A0B5B6/core-reader and accused him of "Socratic Trolling".  I of

Re: [FRIAM] the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology?

On 2/20/18 12:14 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > It seems to me the best way to have the conversation is to see the "women at > the GG" topic as the exact same (pseudoscience) as the "alpha male" nonsense > invoked by Peterson. Both you and Steve seem to have succumbed to the "every > thought is

Re: [FRIAM] the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology?

> Since the horse isn't quite dead: I think the horse has barely been flicked with the tip of the quirt... or perhaps it is the wrong horse which we are flogging, or both? 1. Is it possible that female hominids, specifically "modern women", are responding to their own instinctual responses

Re: [FRIAM] more on tissue-size population dynamics

I hear there have been some altercations where Australians carrying armloads of Vegemite collided with Frenchmen carrying Nutella and instead of fighting, they invented a new, rich candy bar.   Nobody has declared a name or copyrighted it yet.  Hershey who holds the trademark on Reese's is getting

Re: [FRIAM] merging with the mob

I think it just represents their attempt to moderate their response to you! btw... as I wrote that I realized how differently we use the term "moderate"  as a verb and as an adjective or noun.   The noun seems to naturally derive from the verb... that if a process is moderated then it's

Re: [FRIAM] merging with the mob

Glen/Nick/Marcus/List - When reading Ben Franklin's autobiography as a young man (me not Ben), I remember being disturbed by his observation about the members of the Continental Congress as (paraphrase) "building factions in response to a particular topic, then dissolving and reforming them into

Re: [FRIAM] Los "países de mierda" le dejan millones de dólares a EE.UU.

Cody - As Vietnam and the related Conscription of young men approached (like a freight train) in my teens, I seriously considered self-exile from the US to avoid risking becoming yet another trained/habituated killer (or more likely but not mutually exclusively a PTSD-damaged Veteran for life).  

Re: [FRIAM] City University of Santa Fe

Eric - I really appreciate your thorough information on this topic, you have clearly considered it seriously for some time.  > I would say that Ronin agrees with the sense of value, and doesn’t > take for granted having to give it up.  Their main architecture is the > internet interface and the

Re: [FRIAM] City University of Santa Fe

er hand, > there are things that a structured community can make possible which > would be unreachable if each individual had to re-discover and > re-implement them on his own, and there are critical mass effects for > which services can be offered. > >   > > All best, >

Re: [FRIAM] City University of Santa Fe

l person".Surely your Taotic > position is not, "Whatever is is for the best" or even "Que sera sera?" Or > is it? > > Nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nic

Re: [FRIAM] City University of Santa Fe

Nick - My sympathies are with you in aching to see the potential of such a rich milieu as is implied by this city/region (more) fulfilled (elaborated?).   At the same time, my inner Taoist believes it is "precisely as it should be".  Your appeal reminded me of my reading on the origin of "Coffee

Re: [FRIAM] City University of Santa Fe

Nick- I do believe these systems are set up to accommodate high aspirations coupled with benign neglect.  I'm sure you are not the only one to have stood up something only to realize years later it is just sitting there waiting for some attention. If your goal is to "disband", the easiest route

Re: [FRIAM] the bad pun thread

In my youth I did those long distance hauls exclusively on a motorcycle.  The cold wind whistling through the chinks in my clothing/helmet and the pavement whizzing by a few feet away were sufficient to keep me awake.   To keep me from getting too bored, I used those times to work on math/physics

Re: [FRIAM] Charlie Stross keynote to 34th Chaos Communcation Congress

Eavesdropping through "benign" technology is not new of course... from using a drinking glass to focus sound waves through a wall to tapping old school phones, but the current situation is orders of magnitude crazier.    Some of us here probably grew up on party lines where if you lifted the

Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Bug hive remover needed

Gil - I don't know what kind of "hive bugs" you are talking about.   The most obvious in our environs would be wasps, followed by bees, with ants and termites burrowing.  I'm fairly confident that *all* wasps/hornets build new nests each spring.   I know the main contact for honeybee relocation

Re: [FRIAM] Climate Change

Pieter - I think Eric responded extremely well to the actual gist of the (bent) thread on Climate Change as it was elaborating.   The (thread's subject) question of whether there is significant anthropogenic climate changes underway, the extent of them, how bad the consequences are likely to be

[FRIAM] Narrating Complexity

Narrative Theory and the Cognitive Sciences Susan Stepney is "a friend of FriAM", currently professor at U. York but formerly research scientist at Logica, UK nominally a competitor to Bios Group back in the day.   She has visited here several times over the past two decades.  Some of you

Re: [FRIAM] Google self-evolving AlphaZero artificial intelligence program mastered chess from scratch in 4 hours: Rich Murray 2017.12.10

Marcus wrote: > > Is a strategy anything more than a coarse-grained tactic?   And is > intuition anything more than an associative memory that connects > coarse- and fine- grained information? > Is it any more?  Or any less? Learning is an iterated game that operates at many scales and on many

Re: [FRIAM] causation / evolution

Holy Moly guys (and gals)! Maybe it is just my POV (in time as well as myriad other perspectives) but this three layer deep larding of subthreads feels very deep and rich and on-point for me relative to many of the discussions that erupt (autopoetically?) here in this venue. I think Nick...

[FRIAM] Cargo Cult

Marcus - Cargo cult programming is like the link below, starting at 4:20. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZAPwfrtAFY=youtu.be That is, not just imperfect, but worse than nothing. An aphorism by a former LANL Colleague:     "sometimes the most you can do is nothing" I think that was *his*

[FRIAM] Cargo Cult

/ Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/> *From:*Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven A Smith *Sent:* Saturday, Nov

Re: [FRIAM] Postmodernism for Rationalists

, Nov 18, 2017, at 05:39 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: In my experience, growing up in n the Bay Area, Beatniks had come and gone before the Hippies emerged. Frank Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 <tel:%28505%29%20670-9918>

Re: [FRIAM] Postmodernism for Rationalists

Glen ☣- A Postmodernist trying to Rationalize Postmodernism to Rationalists? Actually I found it somewhat interesting...  and was (nicely?) put off by the formatting... the ragged use of bullet points... a "bulleted list of one" seems very symbolic of my caricature of PoMo aesthetic. As for

Re: [FRIAM] death

"self" entirely. If you want to extend that practicality into your metaphysics, then so be it. But the metaphysics is irrelevant because practically, there is no self. On 10/30/2017 07:42 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: I'm curious about your reference to "the temporally extended self".   If it isn't *rea

Re: [FRIAM] death

Roger writes: “It seems that this sort of dead code, undead code, zombie code problem is fairly ubiquitous in information processing systems.  No matter whose system, there are always things around that don't go away because nobody cared to do anything about them.  They always need a

Re: [FRIAM] death

I'm wondering if pupating isn't more relevant to the topic than moulting? As for molting, I was surprised to learn that lobsters (and other decapods?) appear to avoid/eschew cellular senescence...  and their apparent increase in sexual reproductivity with age...   death seems to come (if not

Re: [FRIAM] death

That was a lot, forcing me to cherry-pick. 8^) I disagree with the *fairly* quickly part. The time scales being traversed are huge, as you point out. When you make the argument that death happens fairly abruptly you bias that comment towards a few scales, namely the ones related to

Re: [FRIAM] death

Glen - I think the topic of death in it's broadest sense is very apropos of an Applied Complexity discussion group, here is what came up for me off the cuff: Life itself is nothing if not "complex" by any measure or meaning of the term?  Even me, trying hard to live "a Simple Life".

Re: [FRIAM] death

Glen - As always, you pose interesting points to ponder, and very apropos as we approach el Dia de los Muertos, Samhain, All Souls, Halloween. As often, my first response was to clatter out a massive missive pondering the many facets of death (and life) from my own idiosyncratic Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] KRACK

I recently heard from a friend who achieved a very transient and unexpected contact with a US Antartica Science team member via a 1W handheld DMR RX/TX device.   Anecdotally, they field about 10 such contacts a week.   This is more than a little misleading since DMR is a packet-relay system,

Re: [FRIAM] Truthiness <==> Entrainment

Dave - So far, at least as far as my definition of truth is concerned it is confined to a singular entity(system). Phase locking, et. al. are phenemona of multiple interacting systems - as is convergence. My Bad...     I got distracted by the imagination that we were discussing whether

[FRIAM] Truthiness <==> Entrainment

the 'right' inputs to the 'right' outputs the outcome can be cacophony that morphs into an exquisite performance. But when individual systems start to fail - establish truthiness - start to "mail in" their part of the overall performance, the ban

Re: [FRIAM] Truth: “Hunh! What is it good for? Absolutely Nothing!”

Dave sez: It is certainly possible for one sensor-web-effector state machine to "infect" another, i.e. stimulate a second machine to replicate the behavior. If that happens we have 'convergence' which is nothing more than collective 'fault'/ 'defectiveness'. It sounds as if you believe that

[FRIAM] Crow Conscription?

Nick - You seem to have a history with/affection for the Corvids, at least Ravens.   Do you see these two efforts as having any credibility or possibility?  It almost seems like there could be an ethical question of whether we *should* do these things, even if we *can*?   Of course, many,

Re: [FRIAM] Truth: “Hunh! What is it good for? Absolutely Nothing!”

Without trying to make a strong point in support of either end of this argument (as I understand it) but rather add some extra fodder. What of examples of /convergent evolution/ where similar structures (with similar form and function) appear to arise independently.   I would not claim that

Re: [FRIAM] What is Stopping Poor People From Moving? - The Atlantic

.' (In my head ) I 've been turned down many times simply because I am not physically located in the city the place is. Even though it's webyweb work much of wich can be done by TeleComute. Perhaps others have a different view ^_^ On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Steven A Smith <

Re: [FRIAM] What is Stopping Poor People From Moving? - The Atlantic

While the world has seen many mass migrations forced by economics (and climate), I doubt it has ever been a "pretty picture" either for those forced to migrate or those forced to receive them. Certainly the indigenous people of North (and to a lesser extent South) America got quite the shock

[FRIAM] AGW

Glen/Cody - I think it's natural for someone struggling toward an objective to accept resources from wherever. A useful example is the Templeton Foundation's funding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Templeton_Foundation They fund some cool stuff, e.g. https://u.osu.edu/friedman.8/. But

Re: [FRIAM] on Feynman, again

Glen/Marcus - Once again, a nicely chewy (if mildly pithy) exchange here: To try to summarize my own responses...   I think Glen is suggesting (via Aaronson quotes/references) that some folks believe that by invoking an aphorism of a well-respected/famous person and finding fault with it

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

we seriously trading aphorisms? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YKbYLb5GVc On 09/21/2017 11:09 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: in stark juxtaposition, we have Freeman Dyson saying: "it is better to be wrong than vague" I think I know what he meant and generally support not getting froz

Re: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

sopher can't distinguish their own _why_. Someone who does it because it's fun shouldn't waste any time yapping about how useful it is. And someone who does it because it's useful shouldn't waste any time yapping about how fun it is. Get over it. Be confident. Engage your fetish and ignore the nay-

[FRIAM] Fwd: Re: Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

fish.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gillian Densmore *Sent:* Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:22 PM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making H

Re: [FRIAM] Fun facts about coffe

Gil- Adding to the wimsical side: http://www.minq.com/lifestyle/8913/19-coffee-hacks-that-every-coffee-drinker-has-to-know-immediately?fb_comment_id=659282570844212_812541528851648#f382a4af585002c Weird a small amount helps you process certain fats? oO  that's awesome! Great rundown on

[FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Tangentially on the topic of Philosophy v. Physics,  in my review of Dempster-Shaffer (to avoid making too stupid of misrepresentations on my bumper-sticker) I was fascinated to find Raymond Smullyan's "Types of Reasoners" reduced to formal logic (but also couched in natural language

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

ks... now if they show up full coffee been... On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith <sasm...@swcp.com <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote: Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by default, so this just went to Merle the

Re: [FRIAM] The Atlantic article on "the illusion of reality"

REC/MD/GR/RA/et alii - Having worked on problems roughly described as multivariate optimization decision support, I'm thinking, a high dimensional Pareto Frontier with modified Dempster-Shaffer methods implementing Fuzzy Belief and Plausability measures.   It maps well onto consciousness as

Re: [FRIAM] Maybe a new hardware approach to deal with AI developments

Great phrase/takeway from this thread "Syncopated Intelligence"! I've already reprogrammed my bluetooth  mic/speaker in my Truck to say (in a somber, sotto voce, male voice) "What are you doing, Steve?" in place of the tiny accented female Asian Voice that used to say "Powah Onha" and then "I

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

y in the sun and you are good to go   choice of sock to use is based on even/odd days for left/right. I think they were pulling my leg? Or just trying to keep me from drinking up their coffee! --Barry On 19 Sep 2017, at 19:57, Steven A Smith wrote: PS.  a more whimsical answer is t

Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by default, so this just went to Merle the first time! Gil - I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do (e.g. motel or visiting a friend) I forget that the filling system is measured in 8 oz cups

Re: [FRIAM] The World Turned Upside Down (and what to do about it)

Right here in River City (well, mostly California, but throughout the US) the 1930's "Mexican Repatriation Act" deported on the order of 1-2M US Citizens because of their ethnicity (along with a smaller number of non-Citizens more recently immigrated from Mexico), qualifying for our modern

Re: [FRIAM] The World Turned Upside Down (and what to do about it)

Merle - By some measure, didn't we just experience a "bloodless" revolution just under a year ago? Didn't the 1% and the Evangelicals enlist the mainstream Conservatives to rally the unwashed masses to help them put a manipulable (if not predictable or exactly controllable) clown on deck to

Re: [FRIAM] The World Turned Upside Down (and what to do about it)

Owen - Thanks for the link to something I would otherwise not have found. I particularly appreciated his quote of Yeats, and cherry-picking from his other text, I was particularly taken by: /subtlety is not our strong suit as human beings. We like simple stories without too much

[FRIAM] Pacifism: was Enlightened Self Interest: was Help for texas

Marcus - I can only answer this for myself.  To the extent I am pacifistic, and identify with pacifism as a principle, I will state my own position/experience: While I do value consequences, I value intentions yet more, there has been a lot of ambiguity and ambivalence in my life because of

Re: [FRIAM] Enlightened Self Interest: was Help for texas

Glen - Great find. I was just in DC over Labor Day and experienced the various Monuments, the Museums, the Galleries, and the edifices of power in a whole new way... more as a tourist than ever before, but also able to take in some of the grandeur, not just the grandiosity of it all.   The

[FRIAM] Enlightened Self Interest: was Help for texas

Glen/Marcus/et alia - I have of late, been trying to understand a little more deeply the concept of "Enlightened Self Interest", mostly as it applies to me personally, but by extension how it applies to my identity groups (family, neighbors, region, culture, nation, species,

Re: [FRIAM] well..so much for watching the ecipse in person

With or without the eclipse, we can still admire the fireflies as our lifeblood oozes into the ground! On 8/21/17 8:54 AM, Carl Tollander wrote: "Ieyasu says 'wait' " On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Gillian Densmore > wrote: If

Re: [FRIAM] Stock Bubble

reasons. Expect the big whoosh and then reasonably rapid recovery. And don't expect it to have any effect on Trump, the admin, or his followers. davew On Fri, Aug 18, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: > With morbid fascination, I believe we are about to see the "Tru

Re: [FRIAM] @fakedonaldtrump

Marcus - Thus, it is not a necessarily a good sign when someone that has to make people cooperate takes a direct approach. It may just show that they lack the memory and patience to turn over all the necessary rocks and think about how they relate before taking action. Thus: *"< *Give him

Re: [FRIAM] Stock Bubble

DaveW - I have several friends with tons of money (multi-millionaires, not billionaires) and they are all leaving stocks. Not because of Trump but because of the massive shift away from actively managed funds to passive ones and the overvaluation of price as a result. Bloomberg business just

Re: [FRIAM] @fakedonaldtrump

Well said (as usual). >Pedestrian black humor is very irritating. But when it's done right, it carries just the right balance of poignancy and >banality. In contrast, tag clouds are antiseptic and devoid of any humanity. There is no "there" there. There is only posturing and marketing. So,

Re: [FRIAM] @fakedonaldtrump

Gil - Thanks for the reference to Anonymous@YouTube. You can tell I'm an old fogey by my irritable reaction to the style of their videos. I felt like it was created by/for Max Headroom! I HAVE watched one or two before (over a year ago?) with the same reaction. I have a natural

Re: [FRIAM] @fakedonaldtrump

Marcus - While I like the idea of his continued self-sabotage, his pronouncements probably keep a part of the base stoked. I do understand that and agree that this channel is a significantly powerful/focused one for his fringe/base. If his accounts were to go away, those folks might not

Re: [FRIAM] @fakedonaldtrump

Glen - This is interesting if you type in "trump": https://www.csc2.ncsu.edu/faculty/healey/tweet_viz/tweet_app/ 15 minutes with this make me painfully aware of how much I'm not in tune with twitter culture... the tool seems pretty well made, but I found myself having a hard time drawing

[FRIAM] Stock Bubble

With morbid fascination, I believe we are about to see the "Trump Bubble" in the stock market, driven by the promises of deregulation, collapse under the weight of the belligerent dysfunction of his administration and sycophants. I don't know how transparent the financial holdings of his fat

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

he color of his skin or his background or his religion … People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love … For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite,” On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Steven A Smith <sasm...@swcp.com <mai

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

Well, just because all rule sets are faulty doesn't mean some rule sets aren't better than others. (Need I repeat it? Surely not. ... All models ... yadda yadda.) And so your intuition is right, all rule sets are faulty, including the rule set of all rule sets. The lesson isn't to throw

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

Glen - I am inclined to agree with you, but am left somewhat empty-handed with: "because ALL rule sets are faulty! Damnit." my instincts are with you on this, yet in some kind of Godelian (not Gordian) knot I find myself: A) questioning the "rule" you just stated. and B)

Re: [FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

Marcus/Eric - Great observations, both. I think this cuts to (part of) the heart of the matter. I just recently watched "Glass Castle" (current run at Violet Crown) with Woody Harrelson playing the role of a fairly intelligent (his daughter, the memoirist characterizes him as brilliant)

[FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

Glen - Ha! You see? That's not even wrong. 8^) But it's more plausible than asserting that my ideas are mutated and crossed over from ... yours ... or Szasz' ... or my mom's, for example. What I'm trying to tickle apart here is what we do with the very idea that you might have a

[FRIAM] the Skeptical Meme

there is a pretty high skeptical hurdle that I have to leap over in order for any such education to take root. On August 13, 2017 9:56:16 AM PDT, Steven A Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote: Is there an alternate way of thinking/talking about the *apparent* encoding of human/social/cultural a

Re: [FRIAM] random v stochastic v indeterminate

Glen - I absolutely loathe the meme metaphor. I do agree that it has been overused and overpopularized. I don't usually agree with Nick's distinction between metaphor and analogy. 8^) But here, I claim the meme isn't *anything* like a gene... or more clearly, there is no idea/thought

Re: [FRIAM] random v stochastic v indeterminate

your point about "point mutations" and non-connected spaces (not connected by point mutations anyway) is well taken and is what I think your last message that I was calling "latent" (expression) is about. From my daughter's sage anecdotal claims about Cancer, it seems that something like 7

Re: [FRIAM] random v stochastic v indeterminate

with some genomes is "neutral" or benign but when mixed with a particularly different one has selective (positive or negative) value? There may be something in there in the whole Malaria/SickleCell duality for example? Or maybe I'm mixing apples and pears. - Steve

Re: [FRIAM] random v stochastic v indeterminate

Nick - Thanks for allowing me to sling irresponsible insults at you with impunity. It has been VERY helpful to my recovery. You might consider opening a clinic. One of my favorite authors, Chuck Palahnuik, wrote a protaganist who visits his mother in a dementia/alzheimer's ward every

Re: [FRIAM] random v stochastic v indeterminate

Nick - ... continued What is presented to the world by the epigenetic system is not mutations but “hypotheses” about ways to live. And presumably epigenetic systems are shaped by natural selection to produce more or less plausible hypotheses. And what is the "hypothesis

Re: [FRIAM] random v stochastic v indeterminate

Nick - I am very glad to note that you are recovering and your scrappiness is properly returning! */[NST==>The best cardio rehab is for you-guys to keep annoying me. Thanks for that. <==nst] /* You might check with your cardiologist on this one, I'm not sure a rise in BP is the same as

Re: [FRIAM] The apocalypse

I'm not following the public debate/discussion on this, but I think we discussed this here a few months ago? Even though I lived and worked in the belly of the (Nuclear Weapons Complex) beast for decades, I admit to not knowing with any degree of certainty how direct the "Launch Codes" and

Re: [FRIAM] random v stochastic v indeterminate

of us can read the Wagener book (apparently he shows up at the Santa Fe institute from time to time as an external something or other) and see what we can do with the ideas. I'll be in Amsterdam but can follow e-mail threads to skype. Jenny On 8/9/2017 10:01 AM, Steven A Smith wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

from up there"/ - R. Edward Lowe Steve, it is a Renesan course on Tue, September 7 and 14. I have read Jack Williamson, not all 90, and he would have been included in another course I proposed to Renesan on science fiction themes. Maybe in the future. davew On Wed, Aug 9, 2017, at 09:5

Re: [FRIAM] random v stochastic v indeterminate

Jenny - What a powerful quote: /Natural selection can //preserve//innovations, but it cannot create them./ In my own maunderings about the (continued?) relevance of Free Markets and Capitalism, it has occurred to me that the value of said Free Markets may well be restricted to the

Re: [FRIAM] Future of humans and artificial intelligence

Dave - Most excellent of you to do this, and what will be your venue for this class? Are you familiar with our own Jack Williamson 's vague parallel work in his "Humanoids" which began in 1947 with the Novelette: "With Folded Hands". I do not

Re: [FRIAM] just for fun

6:30 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Shouldn't it be used for Hyperloop? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Steven A Smith <sasm...@swcp.com <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote: So... *IF* you could bore a perfectly straight hole thorugh the earth to your precise antipodal locatio

Re: [FRIAM] just for fun

So... *IF* you could bore a perfectly straight hole thorugh the earth to your precise antipodal location (probably having to put one hell of a "well casing" in, probably of neutronium to withstand the temperatures and turbulences of the core?) what would the "orbit" of a falling body be?

Re: [FRIAM] Trump Support

Glen - Thanks for your analysis. I suffer mightily on the axis of over-simplification to over-complication. I suffer it personally (making bad choices, mostly biased toward complification) and by proxy (suffering friends and colleagues who operate on some other region of that axes, often

Re: [FRIAM] Legado de Nuevo Mexico

It's interesting that you would have liked more anecdotes. I could have made the book twice as long but I thought that would make it boring and I was in a hurry for fear of becoming disabled before it was published. Irrational, I know. Let's just say I was captivated, but I have a lot of

[FRIAM] Legado de Nuevo Mexico

Frank and Congregation - I finally checked my USPS mail today and discovered that the copy of your memoir on your NM legacy had arrived from Amazon. Uncharacteristically I sat down over a long lunch of Huevos Rancheros (Xmas, over easy, extra garnish in place of rice/beans) and quaffed the

Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

Nick! Thanks for sharing your status and good news (well, relatively?). I'm glad Dean had the forwardness to ask the "obvious question". Keep up the recovery! - Steve On 7/27/17 11:01 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: Thanks for your concern, Dean. Don’t have a heart attack in Maine in the

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