Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-31 Thread Nick Thompson
Monday, October 31, 2016 6:37 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically" Not to burst bubbles Isn't this one of the chall

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-31 Thread Eric Charles
Not to burst bubbles Isn't this one of the challenges that Google Wave was intended to solve? Admittedly, Wave isn't a way to fix old email threads, but if "turning email threads into documents" was a common desire, Wave would have been more popular.

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-29 Thread glen ep ropella
On October 28, 2016 7:28:22 PM PDT, Owen Densmore wrote: >Sorry to be pedestrian, but how about the OP's desire to convert >thread(s) >into posts/correspondence? But that was my point in mentioning a tree threaded mail reader, especially an open source one. It should be a matter of straightfor

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-29 Thread Nick Thompson
Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 8:49 AM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologi

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-29 Thread Steven A Smith
*To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically" Sorry to be pedestrian, but how about the OP's desire to convert thread(s) into posts/corresponden

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-29 Thread Owen Densmore
r thoughts. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Be

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-29 Thread Marcus Daniels
tp://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:28 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" I

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread Nick Thompson
nk.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:28 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Re

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread Owen Densmore
Sorry to be pedestrian, but how about the OP's desire to convert thread(s) into posts/correspondence? I take Nick seriously here, it has been his goal from the beginning, right? -- Owen On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: > Glen - > > I am a Mozilla/Tbird Man myself but a

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread Nick Thompson
-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of ?glen? Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 12:35 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically" Let's think about wha

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread Steven A Smith
Glen - I am a Mozilla/Tbird Man myself but am used to many people clinging to very oldschool text-only (or worse?) mail tools. I also don't have any trouble sorting the complexity of comment/response/inlining/inclusion in my head for the most part, but that is how my head works... I think th

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread Steven A Smith
For the TL;DR crowd, a summary of my last response might be as simple as "I am wanting" == Idle Speculation "I want" == Statement of Intent On 10/28/16 4:45 PM, glen ☣ wrote: On 10/28/2016 03:10 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: I've always assumed everyone else's does too... So, when one looks

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread Owen Densmore
Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread Nick Thompson
ilto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 4:11 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically" Gl

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread glen ☣
On 10/28/2016 03:10 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: I've always assumed everyone else's does too... So, when one looks at the content of a mailing list like this, they can _see_ trees of threads, right? If not, I highly recommend a modern client. 8^) It helps a lot. I agree... but I think many/mos

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 4:19 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread Steven A Smith
Glen - Just to help ensure my sanity, my email subject window looks like this: https://goo.gl/photos/thJWHVxy8cfPv3Qq7 I've always assumed everyone else's does too... So, when one looks at the content of a mailing list like this, they can _see_ trees of threads, right? If not, I highly re

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread Steven A Smith
Marcus - What a wonderfully cryptic yet compelling explanation/example? Are you suggesting a certain grandiosity? Or another way of alluding to the ambiguity I am suggesting? Or perhaps an emotional wanting vs a more intellectual wanting? "Enquiring megalo-minds are wanting to know!

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
<> Read: "I am large I contain multitudes." Like, say, an amygdala and a frontal cortex, the latter remarking on the functioning of the former. Marcus FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread glen ☣
On 10/28/2016 02:00 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: The biggest challenge (I think) to leaving all the text included (other than just text/data bloat) is that many of us aren't responding to the entire linear text of every response that came before... we are often responding only to part of it which

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread Steven A Smith
Two points: The more mundane first. I think Nick is really *wanting* more than is implied by the specific question. I guess I would claim (if I understand Nick's intention well) that if *everyone* *always* left the included text from the earlier parts of the thread, the entire thread would

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread ┣glen┫
In reaction to Nick's question, I re-installed VM (https://launchpad.net/vm), which I used to use. I think you used gnus, but maybe RMAIL... I used to generate digests to store or forward various threads and such back when I used VM. It doesn't seem to work the way I remember it, though. I _

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
"... to standardize things across email clients (e.g. the quotation prefix and "quote" line, plain text vs. html, character encodings)?" My favorite is that Outlook's re-encoding of :-) shows up as the letter J. That kind of defeats the original purpose of text art -- that it is portable acr

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-28 Thread ┣glen┫
Let's think about what you're asking for a minute. There are very few on the list who care to spend the energy to participate at all. such lurkers undoubtedly have valuable opinions. But there's some hurdle of effort (or unwillingness) that prevents them from expressing those opinions. Of t

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-27 Thread Owen Densmore
Here's an idea, to help clarify the discussion. Could you choose a thread you like and try to make an article or post from it? That'd give us an idea of your goal. There are a lot of possibilities, I think. -- Owen On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Dear everybody, > >

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-27 Thread Marcus Daniels
“I have gotten involved in email exchanges on FRIAM and elsewhere that were so good that I wanted to save them in chronological order and perhaps edit them into some kind of text for the authors to present elsewhere.” If you think there is value in some discussion, a better thing to do IMO is s

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-27 Thread Nick Thompson
nsmore Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 10:33 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically" Oh, forgot: Techies who beam into medium should use an in

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-27 Thread Owen Densmore
Oh, forgot: Techies who beam into medium should use an incognito window so that it shows its vanilla welcome page, not one based on your internet profile. Maybe true for all of us. Chrome: click on the url with the ctl key down and a popup will offer incognito as an option. -- Owen On Thu, Oct

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-27 Thread Owen Densmore
I'm sure there is a reasonable solution, but would require effort, an editorial role. ​If you do start putting snippets together, I'd recommend https://medium.com/ as the site to use. It's outlook is less bloggy and more chatty, yet your posts can be organized under your name or a tag. They also

Re: [FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-27 Thread Roger Critchlow
Nick -- Look at https://storify.com/ -- rec -- On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Dear everybody, > > > > On several occasions, this one included, I have gotten involved in email > exchanges on FRIAM and elsewhere that were so good that I wanted to save > them in chronolo

[FRIAM] THREAD BENDING ALERT: Was "Is Bezos a Bozo?" IS NOW"Reading Email exchanges chronologically"

2016-10-26 Thread Nick Thompson
Dear everybody, On several occasions, this one included, I have gotten involved in email exchanges on FRIAM and elsewhere that were so good that I wanted to save them in chronological order and perhaps edit them into some kind of text for the authors to present elsewhere. Two years ago I s