Re: Pismo X 10.2.4 and Palm Handheld

2003-03-31 Thread Gene Merritt
On 3/31/03 6:48 PM, "Andrew Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 05:12 PM, Nick wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I updated my OS to 10.2.4 from 10.2.3 and since then I cannot sync >> with my >> Palm Handheld. It w

Re: Pismo X 10.2.4 and Palm Handheld

2003-03-31 Thread Andrew Johnson
On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 05:12 PM, Nick wrote: > Hi > > I updated my OS to 10.2.4 from 10.2.3 and since then I cannot sync > with my > Palm Handheld. It was working fine with 10.2.3 > > Anyone have the same problem? YES! I don't know if it was the 10.2.4 upda

Pismo X 10.2.4 and Palm Handheld

2003-03-31 Thread Nick
Hi I updated my OS to 10.2.4 from 10.2.3 and since then I cannot sync with my Palm Handheld. It was working fine with 10.2.3 Anyone have the same problem? -- Nick The average human produces 25,000 quarts of spit in a lifetime, enough to fill two swimming pools. -- G-Books is sponsored by

Re: Problem getting online using 10.2.4

2003-03-31 Thread Bryan Forbes
t have no way of inputting the Router # (it now >> claims it provided by the PPP Server). This message (provided by the >> PPP Server) - I've never seen before. >> >> Can anyone clue me what to change to get back online. I did update to >> 10.2.4 around that tim

Re: Problem getting online using 10.2.4

2003-03-31 Thread Jeremy Derr
t; address (manually), but have no way of inputting the Router # (it now > claims it provided by the PPP Server). This message (provided by the > PPP Server) - I've never seen before. > > Can anyone clue me what to change to get back online. I did update to > 10.2.4 around that time,

Problem getting online using 10.2.4

2003-03-31 Thread Bryan Forbes
the PPP Server). This message (provided by the PPP Server) - I've never seen before. Can anyone clue me what to change to get back online. I did update to 10.2.4 around that time, but was online several days after updating to 10.2.4 before leaving for break. So I don't think upda

Re: Starting OS 10.2.4

2003-03-22 Thread Jeff Hubatka
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:06:48 -0500 > Subject: Starting OS 10.2.4 > From: Daniel Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > My Wallstreet 512K with PL 500 MHZ g4 has given me fits. Several times > in the past 6 months I have reinstalle

Starting OS 10.2.4

2003-03-21 Thread Daniel Pinto
My Wallstreet 512K with PL 500 MHZ g4 has given me fits. Several times in the past 6 months I have reinstalled sys 10. I believe i just broke the code on what the problem is and would like some verification. I have partitioned my disk into 8-gigs and whatever is left. OSX on the first 8 g

Re: Kernel panics, dial-up OS X 10.2.4

2003-03-09 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 09/03/03 15:55, Eric D. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > on 9/3/03 12:03 PM, Eric D. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Yuck, I really didn't proof read this e-mail very closely... what I meant to >> say was: >> >> I will avoid moving the mouse of sub-menus in a pop-up folder unless I need >>

Re: Kernel panics, dial-up OS X 10.2.4

2003-03-09 Thread Eric D.
on 9/3/03 12:03 PM, Eric D. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yuck, I really didn't proof read this e-mail very closely... what I meant to > say was: > > I will avoid moving the mouse of sub-menus in a pop-up folder unless I need > access its contents or I know there are only a few files in the folde

Re: Kernel panics, dial-up OS X 10.2.4

2003-03-09 Thread Eric D.
on 9/3/03 1:00 PM, David Clark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Some things that appear to speed it up (no, most of these aren't > practical...): unmount volumes not containing apps you want to use to open > the files, delete or archive unused apps, blah blah blah. I have NOT, > however, heard of any

Re: Kernel panics, dial-up OS X 10.2.4

2003-03-09 Thread David Clark
> Is this sub-menu delay thing something others have experienced (as a > pre-emptive comment: it doesn't matter if you *haven't* experienced it (I'm > sure people with G4/1000 don't ;) -- what's important are the people who > HAVE, and *why*, and whether there's a *real* workaround that does not >

Re: Kernel panics, dial-up OS X 10.2.4

2003-03-09 Thread Eric D.
on 9/3/03 11:54 AM, Eric D. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > beach ball was active searching for apps). Anyway, when the Finder returned > it hadn't found an app to open with. Selecting fewer docs results in less of > a lag. I've developed a similar kind of strategy with folders I've placed in > the

Re: Kernel panics, dial-up OS X 10.2.4

2003-03-09 Thread Eric D.
(continuation from part 1) My conclusion from this experience is that parts of the serial code are unstable in 10.2.4. There are numerous reports on the web of problems with dial-up access and Apple has even offered a work-around for one problem. My personal observations on this matter are: 1

Kernel panics, dial-up OS X 10.2.4

2003-03-09 Thread Eric D.
Well, I can force OS X 10.2.4 into a kernel panic, *nearly* at will. That said, OS X 10.2.4 *can* be extremely stable, but only if the right settings are used. Remember I posted a problem with dial-up internet access where my Pismo would go into kernel panic if it tried to dial out without a

For the Member in Germany with 10.2.4 Problem

2003-03-03 Thread Obrecht, Jerry A
Last week I recall reading of a subscriber in Germany who was able to switch a Windows user to a new AlBook, and then 10.2.4 caused the switcher to wish that he hadn't switched. Here is a tentative cure... The problem with the modem is in the modem scripts installed by 10.2.4...they are

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-19 Thread Jeremy Derr
On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 11:46 PM, Eric D. wrote: >> I'm not saying that they don't happen, or that you're an isolated >> issue. I'm saying that you're making too much out of this. have you >> tried doing an archive and install, then reap

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-19 Thread Roger Shufflebottom
At 8:15 pm -0500 17/2/03, Eric D. wrote: >Are you talking about the F-key app launching in OS 9? If so, there's >preferences pane called Key Xing (shareware) that brings this functionality >to OS X. That's the thing. I've just tracked it down to: http://www.lumacode.com/keyxing/. I'll take a loo

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-18 Thread Eric D.
D) > I'm not saying that they don't happen, or that you're an isolated > issue. I'm saying that you're making too much out of this. have you > tried doing an archive and install, then reapplying the 10.2.4 update? > you're keen to document all the lines

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-18 Thread Jeremy Derr
been part of the bug reports for every release of > OS X -- > it's good but it ain't perfect. Plus, there are a plethora of reports > both > on Apple's discussion boards and on the independent Mac commentators of > kernel panics and problems with dial-up in 10.2.4

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-18 Thread Eric D.
on 2/18/03 5:40 PM, Jeremy Derr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> These are the modules affiliated with the three panics I've had. I >> cannot >> *ever* remember this many kernel panics in four days, even in 10.0.x >> days! > > dunno what to tell you. sounds

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-18 Thread Jeremy Derr
On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 10:46 AM, Eric D. wrote: > Kernel Panic #3 with 10.2.4! Stable? Yeah right! > > It seems to be consistently related to dial-up (this time it happened > b/c I > unplugged the modem to prevent auto-dial from interfering with a > conversation I

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-18 Thread Eric D.
Kernel Panic #3 with 10.2.4! Stable? Yeah right! It seems to be consistently related to dial-up (this time it happened b/c I unplugged the modem to prevent auto-dial from interfering with a conversation I was having on the phone. This is a bit of the info in the log for each of the three panics

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-17 Thread Jonathan Andrew
>Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:47:47 -0500 >Subject: Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable? >From: "Eric D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >on 2/16/03 9:15 PM, Jonathan Andrew at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-17 Thread Don P.
Eric wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:25:09 I presume you've tried holding down the 'c' key when you startup the Lombard with a CD in the CD-ROM? It'd be very strange indeed if it didn't allow you to boot from CD. Mark wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:04:02 Also try holding down Shift;Option;

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-17 Thread John Gaskell
I think you should just give it to me. :) On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 08:04 AM, Mark Kippert wrote: > Eric D. on 2/17/03 8:25 AM wrote: > >> on 2/16/03 10:01 PM, Don P. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> My Lombard is going into a freeze at the Apple logo >>> upon Startup. No rescue so

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-17 Thread Eric D.
on 2/17/03 3:41 PM, Roger Shufflebottom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Went to 10.2.4 on my DVI TiBook 800 from 10.2.3 three days ago. The > only thing that bugged me was that it messed with my function keys - > had to boot into OS 9 to go into the Keyboard control panel to reset > th

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-17 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 17/02/03 15:41, Roger Shufflebottom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Went to 10.2.4 on my DVI TiBook 800 from 10.2.3 three days ago. The > only thing that bugged me was that it messed with my function keys - > had to boot into OS 9 to go into the Keyboard control panel to reset > th

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-17 Thread Roger Shufflebottom
Went to 10.2.4 on my DVI TiBook 800 from 10.2.3 three days ago. The only thing that bugged me was that it messed with my function keys - had to boot into OS 9 to go into the Keyboard control panel to reset them so they'd work with my Photoshop actions and so on. It's about time w

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-17 Thread Kevin Stevens
>> Also try holding down Shift;Option;Command;Delete at startup. This >> forces the computer to look for a bootable volume other than the >> internal startup drive (including a CD-ROM). This often works when a >> Mac refuses to boot from CD even when holding down the "C" key. > > Does this still w

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-17 Thread Jon Glass
on 2/17/03 4:04 PM, Mark Kippert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Also try holding down Shift;Option;Command;Delete at startup. This forces > the computer to look for a bootable volume other than the internal startup > drive (including a CD-ROM). This often works when a Mac refuses to boot from > CD

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-17 Thread Mark Kippert
Eric D. on 2/17/03 8:25 AM wrote: > on 2/16/03 10:01 PM, Don P. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> My Lombard is going into a freeze at the Apple logo >> upon Startup. No rescue so far. Won't startup from >> externals. No keyboard keys seem to help. May relate >> to Iomega installation. Next s

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-17 Thread Eric D.
on 2/16/03 10:01 PM, Don P. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My Lombard is going into a freeze at the Apple logo > upon Startup. No rescue so far. Won't startup from > externals. No keyboard keys seem to help. May relate > to Iomega installation. Next step is to pull hard > drive and try a hot restar

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-16 Thread Andrew Johnson
10.2.4 has been rock solid on my TiBook 667 DVI for 2 days and 2 hours now... no problems what so ever (and that includes is since updating 3 days ago and then restarting into os 9 for some nostalgia) -Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Elect

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-16 Thread Don P.
on my G4 mirror. Don Eric D. wrote: ate: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:45:41 -0500 Subject: OS X 10.2.4 stable? From: "Eric D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello, has anyone else had problems with OS X 10.2.4 and kernel p

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-16 Thread Eric D.
on 2/16/03 9:15 PM, Jonathan Andrew at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > G3 PB (bronze 333 - Lombard) > 384MB/60GB > > 10.2.4 no problems yet, though did not wake from sleep the first two > times I slept it: had to 3-finger it (same as any OSX version, > though). You should check

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-16 Thread Jonathan Andrew
G3 PB (bronze 333 - Lombard) 384MB/60GB 10.2.4 no problems yet, though did not wake from sleep the first two times I slept it: had to 3-finger it (same as any OSX version, though). Safari seems better (3rd party mouse buttons and wheel now work consistently, etc.). -jra -- G-Books is

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 06:05 PM, Carsten Marx wrote: > Hi, > > first i'd like to say hello to all. > > > I have also a great problem with 10.2.4 on my iBook 800. > I can't change the network-location without restarting my Ibook. When i > change the

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-15 Thread Carsten Marx
Hi, first i'd like to say hello to all. I have also a great problem with 10.2.4 on my iBook 800. I can't change the network-location without restarting my Ibook. When i change the location there are many printouts at the console like this: Feb 15 10:25:38 bion configd[110]: DHCP

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-15 Thread Eric D.
on 2/15/03 7:30 PM, Christopher D Helmkamp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Absolutely nothing out of the ordinary in the logs. A full > spash-screen message telling me to hold down the power button or hit > the reset button appeared on the screen at wake. It was transparent > (so I could see the d

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-15 Thread Andre Ruegg
Been running 10.2.4 on my iBook 800. No kernel panics here. Seems a bit faster. My shared dial-up connection actually behaves better now. I am happy with 10.2.4. Andre > > Eric, > > I'm running a Pismo 400/768RAM/30HD and everything seems to be running fine. > Infact,

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-15 Thread Christopher D Helmkamp
Absolutely nothing out of the ordinary in the logs. A full spash-screen message telling me to hold down the power button or hit the reset button appeared on the screen at wake. It was transparent (so I could see the desktop behind it), with a less-transparent white box directly in the middle.

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-15 Thread Hal
Rock solid stable on my machines; G4 Cube, TiBook 550, Pismo and iMac. on have crashed since the update. -Hal On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 03:45 PM, Eric D. wrote: > Hello, has anyone else had problems with OS X 10.2.4 and kernel > panics? The > update installed fine on my machi

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-15 Thread Eric D.
stay quiet and wait to see if it happened again before I > said something, but looks as though my problems might be common to > 10.2.4! > > --Chris > ibook 700 384MB X.2.4 Well, since you're a former UNIXer would the Kernel Panic logs be of use to you? I'm trying to pu

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-15 Thread Christopher D Helmkamp
On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 06:45 PM, Eric D. wrote: > Hello, has anyone else had problems with OS X 10.2.4 and kernel > panics? The > update installed fine on my machine (Pismo/400 0.5 GB) but I've had two > panics in the past 24 hours I would have to say I agree. I

Re: OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-15 Thread Vic Duong
e the upgrade. vic > Hello, has anyone else had problems with OS X 10.2.4 and kernel panics? The > update installed fine on my machine (Pismo/400 0.5 GB) but I've had two > panics in the past 24 hours -- one was apparently related to dial-up (I had > just been disconnected from

OS X 10.2.4 stable?

2003-02-15 Thread Eric D.
Hello, has anyone else had problems with OS X 10.2.4 and kernel panics? The update installed fine on my machine (Pismo/400 0.5 GB) but I've had two panics in the past 24 hours -- one was apparently related to dial-up (I had just been disconnected from the web when all of a sudden I had the

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-14 Thread Eric D.
Someone mentioned that 10.2.4 had added icons to the Dock that they'd previously removed. I had the same experience. I find the iApps and web apps to be next to useless so I remove them from the dock (Mail, iTunes, AddressBook, iChat, iPhoto, Microsloth Internet Explorer) yet the update to 1

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-14 Thread james barnum
>Geez...royally f*cked up my System. I had to run DW, fsck, restart 3 >times and was threatening to wipe the HD when all finally went well. >The only difference noted so far is that the app not responding in >force quit box is now in red lettering. > >dave > No problems to date on a G3 PB 300 w/512

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-14 Thread Ryan Coleman
>It's easy to remove anything from the dock, just click, drag it up and >release, giving you a nifty little poof. However the update didn't add >anything back to my dock. > >My question Ryan. Since the items in the Dock are actually just aliases, had >you also removed the original applications from

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-14 Thread Eugene Lee
those apps are in my Dock before and after upgrading to 10.2.4. -- Eugene Lee -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! |

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-14 Thread Eugene Lee
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 09:56:30PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : : On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 09:32 PM, David M. Ensteness wrote: : > : > Uhm, the red letter things has been out for a while. : : "Uhm" , that might be true, but if you'd looked at my previous post, : you'd have seen 2

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-14 Thread Mark Kippert
Peter Sealy on 2/14/03 1:15 AM wrote: > On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 04:44 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > >> Oh man... I just upgraded... took 90 seconds to download but they put >> the three worst programs back in my dock: Mail, iChat and Address >> Book. I'm sorry, but I took those out for a re

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-14 Thread Mark Kippert
Guy Masson on 2/13/03 10:10 PM wrote: > is out. > > Installed on a pismo 500. > > no issues. > > yet... Just thought I would share my experience. Last night I installed OS10.2.4, the latest Safari (still beta of course) and the latest iMovie at around 8pm Eastern. Did it via AirPort during a

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread dograt
e was the scare at first when no apps would open, and, unfortunately, I didn't use the scientific method when applying remedies so I don't what or if anything fixed that problem, but all is well now. What is for sure is the the update initially screwed my system and now that things

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread Ryan Coleman
At 10:58 PM -0800 2/13/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 10:24 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > >>> On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 04:44 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>> Oh man... I just upgraded... took 90 seconds to download > > >You got a 40 MB d/l in 90 seconds? Yo

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread Luca Rescigno
> I rely on Mail heavily so that was always there, but the 2.4 upgrade > didn't put iChat or Address in my dock. > > dave I noticed that Sherlock was at the end of my dock after restarting... iChat, Address Book, and Mail were already in the dock. -- G-Books is sponsored by

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread dograt
On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 10:24 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 04:44 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> >>> Oh man... I just upgraded... took 90 seconds to download You got a 40 MB d/l in 90 seconds? You must have a wicked fast ISP. >>> but they put >>> the t

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread Ryan Coleman
>On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 04:44 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > >> Oh man... I just upgraded... took 90 seconds to download but they put >> the three worst programs back in my dock: Mail, iChat and Address >> Book. I'm sorry, but I took those out for a reason to begin with. GRR. >> -- >> Ry

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread Peter Sealy
On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 04:44 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Oh man... I just upgraded... took 90 seconds to download but they put > the three worst programs back in my dock: Mail, iChat and Address > Book. I'm sorry, but I took those out for a reason to begin with. GRR. > -- > Ryan Coleman

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread dograt
On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 09:32 PM, David M. Ensteness wrote: > Uhm, the red letter things has been out for a while. > > David "Uhm" , that might be true, but if you'd looked at my previous post, you'd have seen 2 caveats: 1. I haven't had too much need to force quit apps since Jag,

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread Ryan Coleman
Oh man... I just upgraded... took 90 seconds to download but they put the three worst programs back in my dock: Mail, iChat and Address Book. I'm sorry, but I took those out for a reason to begin with. GRR. -- Ryan Coleman System Administrator LEMLists.com Get your email account at lemlists.com

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread David M. Ensteness
Uhm, the red letter things has been out for a while. David On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 09:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Geez...royally f*cked up my System. I had to run DW, fsck, restart 3 > times and was threatening to wipe the HD when all finally went well. > The only difference

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread dograt
On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 07:55 PM, Kevin Stevens wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> The only difference noted so far is that the app not responding in >> force quit box is now in red lettering. > > That's not new. I guess you're right, but I never saw it bef

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread Kevin Stevens
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The only difference noted so far is that the app not responding in > force quit box is now in red lettering. That's not new. KeS -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refu

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread Luca Rescigno
> Geez...royally f*cked up my System. I had to run DW, fsck, restart 3 > times and was threatening to wipe the HD when all finally went well. > The only difference noted so far is that the app not responding in > force quit box is now in red lettering. > > dave The red lettering thing was already

Re: 10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread dograt
Geez...royally f*cked up my System. I had to run DW, fsck, restart 3 times and was threatening to wipe the HD when all finally went well. The only difference noted so far is that the app not responding in force quit box is now in red lettering. dave -- G-Books is sponsored by

10.2.4

2003-02-13 Thread Guy Masson
is out. Installed on a pismo 500. no issues. yet... guy m -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <