Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-20 Thread David M. Ensteness
> Except that the person asking the question specifically mentioned what > he > does with his computer, and none of the things you mentioned were on > the > list. His uses are quite simple and non-demanding. In such > circumstances, he > could run for days or weeks without crashing 9. :-) You m

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-20 Thread Jon Glass
on 12/19/02 12:44 AM, David M. Ensteness at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Uhm, beyond stability ... preemptive multitasking - the ability to burn > a CD, act as a router for your network, play MP3s, download software > updates, have a couple web browsers, your email client, 4 QuickTime > movies playi

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread Jonathan Andrew
In the Digest John Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I will never go back to Windows, and I am currently in the process of >convincing (a futile attempt) my Dad to switch. Microsoft is to >computers what the Black Death was to Europe. Or, more accurately to my ear, and paraphrasing Ortega y Gasse

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread David M. Ensteness
> For you? Probably none--at least just yet. Do you crash a lot? If so, > then > definitely consider it. Most of the apps you have mentioned have > upgrades, a > couple of them even free--and you may have the X version of Quicken on > your > CD. > Uhm, beyond stability ... preemptive multitaski

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread Mark Loeffler
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Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread Mark Loeffler
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Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread Jon Glass
on 12/17/02 11:11 PM, Bill Fischer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I currently have a Pismo and the primary applications I use are; > AppleWorks; Filemaker; BluePrint; Quicken; Now UptoDate & Contact; > Eudora; Explorer; Reunion; Route 66; Solitaire; > > Anyway, what am I missing? What are the real

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread Jon Glass
on 12/18/02 2:46 AM, Obi-Wan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > System Tools 5.0 (System 4.2, Finder 6.0) This is where I joined the Mac, and I called it System 4, because I believe this is what you saw in the About the Finder window. Of course, this was many years ago, so I don't remember details, an

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread George Gunderson
On Wednesday, December 18, 2002, at 12:19 PM, Amber Rhea wrote: > On Wednesday, December 18, 2002, at 11:18 AM, (G-Books) wrote: > >> Compare this to Mac OS (9 or X) where you plug in a USB or FireWire >> drive and (*GASP*) it just works! > > I have to add to this discussion, too. A few weeks ago

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 18/12/02 12:19, "Amber Rhea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip!] > And yet there are still plenty of people in my program (Master of > Internet Technology) who CONTINUE to scoff at and make fun of Macs, > even though they've never used one (or if they have, it was at least 10 > years ago) AND the

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread Amber Rhea
On Wednesday, December 18, 2002, at 11:18 AM, (G-Books) wrote: > Compare this to Mac OS (9 or X) where you plug in a USB or FireWire > drive and (*GASP*) it just works! I have to add to this discussion, too. A few weeks ago I was using an Olympus digital camera borrowed from my department at the

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread David M. Ensteness
Ah. I see. On Wednesday, December 18, 2002, at 10:04 AM, Jeremy Derr wrote: > When I said "check" I meant that as a checklist... these programs are > all OS X native or carbonized. -- G-Books is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com |

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread Jeremy Derr
When I said "check" I meant that as a checklist... these programs are all OS X native or carbonized. On Wednesday, December 18, 2002, at 09:50 PM, David M. Ensteness wrote: >> AppleWorks 6 - check, 6.0 and up > > 6.0 has free updates that make it carbon > >> Filemaker

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread Jeremy Derr
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 07:53 PM, David M. Ensteness wrote: > Curiosity, what was the first one to be Mac OS instead of System? I > believe the change happened with 7.5.something or 7.6 but it was at or > before 7.6 because it boots with the newer welcome splash screen. the first vers

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread David M. Ensteness
> As for the programs you run, and whether it's worth it to you to > upgrade from OS 9. Many of those are now out for OS X. Some are not. OS > X has the Classic Environment, which allows you to run OS 9 apps in OS > X. However, if most of your apps > > AppleWorks 6 - check, 6.0 and up 6.0

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread Jeremy Derr
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 04:11 PM, Bill Fischer wrote: > I currently have a Pismo and the primary applications I use are; > AppleWorks; Filemaker; BluePrint; Quicken; Now UptoDate & Contact; > Eudora; Explorer; Reunion; Route 66; Solitaire; > > Anyway, what am I missing? What are the rea

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread George Gunderson
On Wednesday, December 18, 2002, at 07:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 12/17/2002 11:45:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> How did you get Jaguar on a rev A clamshell iBook? The Apple >> site says it needs 3 gig on the hard drive and that's the en

Re: [PB]Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 18/12/02 07:11, John Fox at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all: > > I thought that a Switcher's opinion might be helpful here too. > > I, since my introduction to computers in 1985 to the IBM PC Jr. have > been using PCs. All my life everything I knew was Microsoft, IBM > compatible and a Wi

Re: [PB]Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread John Fox
Hi all: I thought that a Switcher's opinion might be helpful here too. I, since my introduction to computers in 1985 to the IBM PC Jr. have been using PCs. All my life everything I knew was Microsoft, IBM compatible and a Windows world for me. I took the plunge back in May with $500 on a Wa

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-18 Thread paulatx1
In a message dated 12/17/2002 11:45:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > How did you get Jaguar on a rev A clamshell iBook? The Apple > site says it needs 3 gig on the hard drive and that's the entire hard > drive. I have such an iBook, love it and would love to get > OS X

Re: [PB]Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-17 Thread Marty Lindower
> NOT ONE single system crash? I haven't even gotten a kernal panic > yet. It's fast, it's powerful, you can do actual multitasking. I can > download files from the net and still surf the net and read and write email. I'd like to add to this... first; no crashes, ever. Second, as far as multit

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-17 Thread Terry McCune
> > You should try it. I regret waiting so long to switch. I >have it on a rev A clamshell iBook and an 800 Ti. > Paula Rutledge Hey Paula ( I've wanted to open with that since the '62 song) How did you get Jaguar on a rev A clamshell iBook? The Apple site sa

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-17 Thread David M. Ensteness
First, I just read my own response, and it was kinda a jerk thing to write. The original post does sound troll like to me but I sounded pretty harsh, sorry to all for that. >> Is this an honest question or a troll? >> The last reason I suspect this to be a troll is that you start by >> talking a

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-17 Thread Obi-Wan
On 12/17/02 5:35 PM, "David M. Ensteness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Spew into the Cybertrough: > Is this an honest question or a troll? > The last reason I suspect this to be a troll is that you start by > talking about how you are a Mac user and have been forever, but you > want to compare Mac OS X to

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-17 Thread David M. Ensteness
Is this an honest question or a troll? I say that because Mac OS X has been out for two years and every review of 10.2 says that it is incredible. MacWorld, MacAddict, PC World, PC Magazine, TechTV, heck its hard to find someone who doesn't think its the most incredible OS there is. I also tak

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-17 Thread paulatx1
In a message dated 12/17/2002 5:11:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have been a Mac user since 1986 going from OS 4 through OS 9. I > learned early on to read about the advantages of the system and wait > for a couple of updates before upgrading. Based on what I have r

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-17 Thread SGM Ferrare
Bill: I'm going through the same decision loop. I sold my Pismo about a month ago and am waiting until the announcements in January to see what I want to buy. But my wife has a PC, which I (re)built. I would love to build another for myself with all the latest goodies. I love the i

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-17 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 17/12/02 17:11, "Bill Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been a Mac user since 1986 going from OS 4 through OS 9. I > learned early on to read about the advantages of the system and wait > for a couple of updates before upgrading. Based on what I have read > so far I just do not see a

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-17 Thread Hal
Bill, I definitely hear you. I've been a Mac user since OS 6, and also have tended to wait until a bug fix or 2 before upgrading on my main machine. The main reasons to upgrade to OSX are really about convenience and stability. I found OS 9 to be pretty stable, but when it crashed, it took dow

Re: OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-17 Thread Kevin Stevens
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Bill Fischer wrote: > I currently have a Pismo and the primary applications I use are; > AppleWorks; Filemaker; BluePrint; Quicken; Now UptoDate & Contact; > Eudora; Explorer; Reunion; Route 66; Solitaire; > > Anyway, what am I missing? What are the real advantages of OS 10 ov

OS 10 vs Windows?

2002-12-17 Thread Bill Fischer
I have been a Mac user since 1986 going from OS 4 through OS 9. I learned early on to read about the advantages of the system and wait for a couple of updates before upgrading. Based on what I have read so far I just do not see any advantage to upgrading to OS 10. In fact it seems more Windows-