Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Dan
At 4:00 AM + 6/14/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Dan mailto:dantear...@gmail.comdantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:01 PM + 6/13/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. Be

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread James Therrault
On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Dan wrote: At 4:00 AM + 6/14/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Dan mailto:dantear...@gmail.comdantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:01 PM + 6/13/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Ted Treen
From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, 14 June, 2010 4:45:38 Subject: Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.net wrote

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote: ___ You're right in what you say, but at least here in the UK, stereotypes - at least in the bosses' eyes - still rule. I was a techie/systems programmer back in the

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:33 AM, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.comwrote: On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Dan wrote: At 4:00 AM + 6/14/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Dan mailto:dantear...@gmail.com dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:01 PM +

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-14 Thread Justin The Cynical
On 6/13/10 6:42 PM, Albert Carter wrote: Mark, Since you are going to re-do the video to prove this I have one further suggestion. Do this as one complete video, do not segment it and do not turn off or pause the video camera. This will lead to further validate your proof. Albert

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Dennis Myhand
Dan wrote: At 9:01 PM + 6/13/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. Be comforted, that in the face of all irridity and disillusionment, and despite the changing fortunes of time, there is always a big future in

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Dennis Myhand
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I can understand that in an office drone paper shuffler who is on the IT lockout track. But media types of all persuasions who enter small or freelance operations and ignore the need of CPU and network system practices will be a burden to their bosses and

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-14 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
I will re do the cideo, but because of the 4GB of RAM change, the Jaguar system constantly tells me to restart the system over and over again. I tried reverting back to 2GB of RAM, and still, it tells me to restart. i don't know what is going on. Any suggestions? --  Sent from my Power mac G4

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread iJohn
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:08 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, The universe is laughing behind your back. For some reason the part that always stuck in my mind was Take heart in the deepening

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-14 Thread Dan
At 4:07 AM -0700 6/14/2010, Justin The Cynical wrote: On 6/13/10 6:42 PM, Albert Carter wrote: Since you are going to re-do the video to prove this I have one further suggestion. Do this as one complete video, do not segment it and do not turn off or pause the video camera. This will lead to

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete? ? 4GB on G4

2010-06-14 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I don't shout anything just because I can't do it. As many are interested as I am about how/if one can run 4GB RAM on this machine. There was nothing magical about 2GB, 2^32=4G so, it passes the first logical test. 2 to 4 is not the same jump as 4 to anything higher. I'd like to see the exact

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread John Callahan
On Jun 13, 2010, at 11:45 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.net wrote: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. I have tried to teach that very class for

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread John Callahan
I think he meant aridity. On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: irridity John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com If there are no dogs in Heaven, when I die I want to go where they went. --Will Rogers extreme positive = (ybya2) -- You received this message because you are

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-14 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Okay. I will have the video posted on youtube in a while. In the meantime I have to resolve issues with Jaguar not working properly and to re-install Mac OS X SL on Q because i did not back up my info. What a bummer. I will get it running soon. I can handle the problem with SL on a Q emulator, i

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-14 Thread ah...clem
On Jun 10, 4:17 am, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: I'm not certain if this article will enable 4GB RAM for you, but I   suspect it will, if this is possible? Instead of reducing the memory,   as the title of this article references, you'd be increasing it instead:

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-14 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:15 PM, ah...clem wrote: On Jun 10, 4:17 am, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: I'm not certain if this article will enable 4GB RAM for you, but I suspect it will, if this is possible? Instead of reducing the memory, as the title of this article references, you'd be

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-14 Thread ah...clem
On Jun 14, 2:24 pm, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: . . . how and where to get a hold of some of these 1GB PC133 sticks without trolling dumpsters for old Dell servers? Easily and cheaply found on eBay. I just sold 8 1GB sticks for $30   shipped. Problem is that registered sticks

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-14 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 14, 2010, at 3:24 PM, ah...clem wrote: On Jun 14, 2:24 pm, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: . . . how and where to get a hold of some of these 1GB PC133 sticks without trolling dumpsters for old Dell servers? Easily and cheaply found on eBay. I just sold 8 1GB sticks for $30

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-14 Thread ah...clem
On Jun 14, 2:24 pm, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: Problem is that registered sticks are keyed differently than regular   SD ram stick and will not fit in the slot. Even if you physically   modify the slot, the contacts will not line up. So they can not work   in a Mac. Len also

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-14 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 14, 2010, at 4:21 PM, ah...clem wrote: On Jun 14, 2:24 pm, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: Problem is that registered sticks are keyed differently than regular SD ram stick and will not fit in the slot. Even if you physically modify the slot, the contacts will not line up. So

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Dennis Myhand
John Callahan wrote: I have tried to teach that very class for the last 7 years. Most of my students could not care less about what I am talking about. Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com Why not start an internet course for a small fee I would be interested.

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete? ? 4GB on G4

2010-06-14 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:57 PM, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.comwrote: I don't shout anything just because I can't do it. As many are interested as I am about how/if one can run 4GB RAM on this machine. There was nothing magical about 2GB, 2^32=4G so, it passes the first logical test. 2

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.netwrote: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I can understand that in an office drone paper shuffler who is on the IT lockout track. But media types of all persuasions who enter small or freelance operations and ignore the

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Give 'em a 7 MHz processor and 1 MB RAM and see what they can do ! And no I am not kidding. Uphill both ways, I presume, barefoot in the snow? 8-P My first layered composite image process was done on a machine of that spec.

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Give 'em a 7 MHz processor and 1 MB RAM and see what they can do ! And no I am not kidding. Uphill both ways, I presume, barefoot in the

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Why we had to scratch the bits onto pieces of paper we peeled up from the floor of the butchers shop and wrote on with our own blood! Three graphics artists would die every time we did a layer mask! Those

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why we had to scratch the bits onto pieces of paper we peeled up from the floor of the butchers shop and wrote on with our own blood! Three graphics artists would die every time we did a layer mask! But it beat getting the

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why we had to scratch the bits onto pieces of paper we peeled up from the floor of the butchers shop and wrote on with our own blood! Three

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Dan
At 9:05 PM + 6/14/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: But I still often hear of the generations raised on computers. I guess that does not mean much. Playing games and sneaking porn does not teach you how to handle system resources We've been toodling around in cars for how long? 100+

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:05 PM + 6/14/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: But I still often hear of the generations raised on computers. I guess that does not mean much. Playing games and sneaking porn does not teach you how to handle

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 14, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:05 PM + 6/14/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: But I still often hear of the generations raised on computers. I guess that does not mean much.

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Bill Connelly
This thread be obsolete of PowerPC ... seems like forever ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-14 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.netwrote: This thread be obsolete of PowerPC ... seems like forever ... Wrong thread Bill. This is a clearly marked spin-off regarding Rich text as a communicative tool and has gotten into a discussion of other subjects. To

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-13 Thread Baha Ata
i cannot say anthing else than MASTER! :=) you shock me !!! conversion you may use popcorn video conversion tool from www.maxosxapplications.com... search in the site... popcorn 2010/6/12 Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com: Like i said... it goes like this: I first pulled 4 1GB So-dimm low

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-13 Thread Baha Ata
lol even i shocked i cannot write my site well www.macosxapplications.com Hmmm i got 3 G4 Sawtooth... so lets try only rams :). 2010/6/13 John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com: I must come to Mark's defense here. FWIW. I've read in the past a post by someone I think maybe Bruce J about the ability

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/Great job!

2010-06-13 Thread Bequette Jeff
On Jun 12, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Here is that proof you wanted. Please, after you watch it, don't bug me about this subject ever again. I started what i thought would be an interesting conversation, but all i got is Fed up from other people annoying me with It's fake

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-13 Thread Damian
This is just lame! Are u really thinking, that people would elive this? On Jun 12, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Here is that proof you wanted. Please, after you watch it, don't bug me about this subject ever again. I started what i thought would be an interesting conversation,

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-13 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Like I said, you don't have to believe me if you don't want to. If You don't believe, than good for you. Everyone's different. If you look at my evidence in the face and say that it's fake or a scam, well then, oh well. I really don't care. For those of you who know this is real, thank you for

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-13 Thread Chance Reecher
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: For those of you who know this is real, Funny, because it's not. thank you for realizing what people like us can do. Or rather, can't. --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-13 Thread Chance Reecher
Hmm, the amazing discovery you made back in April, and so stupidly told the group about? Copy-Pasted from your modify the about this mac box message: Well, the reason why this is supposedly running Snow leopard on a PPC mac, is because i hacked one of the .strings files that display that system

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Chance Reecher cha...@reecher.net wrote: Hmm, the amazing discovery you made back in April, and so stupidly told the group about? Copy-Pasted from your modify the about this mac box message: Well, the reason why this is supposedly running Snow leopard on a

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Chance Reecher
My apologies. The highlighting was totally unintentional. As you may know, when you search in Gmail, it highlights the search terms in messages. So when I copied and pasted from Mark's April email, the highlighting came too. I wasn't looking carefully and didn't correct it before sending. No need

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Dan
At 5:38 PM + 6/13/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Chance Reecher mailto:cha...@reecher.netcha...@reecher.net wrote: Hmm, the amazing discovery you made back in April, and so stupidly told the group about? Copy-Pasted from your modify the about

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
WTF ? It was a complement ! I was being sincere. Sorry if I didn't use emoticons or such but I never trust them much anyway. Have we gotten so convoluted here that honesty is miscalculated? No wonder there are so many misunderstandings here. People these days don't understand the up front

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 13, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: List rules or no, after a decade it is nice to see rich text used on LEM to effectively communicate. Notice how the color bars pop out the relevant words and emphasize the salient points. No, I didn't notice it at all, since my

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Illirik Smirnov
PPC as an architecture will never become obsolete. PPC computers will. Illirik Smirnov On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 13, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: List rules or no, after a decade it is nice to see rich

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 13, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: List rules or no, after a decade it is nice to see rich text used on LEM to effectively communicate. Notice how the color bars pop out the

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Illirik Smirnov illir...@gmail.com wrote: PPC as an architecture will never become obsolete. PPC computers will. Illirik Smirnov That's the other thread dude. But we get *PowerPC* (short for *Performance Optimization With Enhanced RISC – Performance

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 13, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I hardly ever see any of that . Probably because my friends are more knowledgeable. Those who sent the garish ones year ago, the circuit letters have been warned off. But if it is a truly personal message rather than

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 13, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I hardly ever see any of that . Probably because my friends are more knowledgeable. Those who sent the garish ones year ago, the

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Chance Reecher mailto: cha...@reecher.netcha...@reecher.net wrote: Hmm, the amazing discovery you made back in April, and so stupidly told the group about? Copy-Pasted from your modify the about this mac box message: Well, the reason why this is

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 13, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 13, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I hardly ever see any of that . Probably because my friends are more

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Chance Reecher mailto: cha...@reecher.netcha...@reecher.net wrote: Hmm, the amazing discovery you made back in April, and so stupidly told the group about? Copy-Pasted from your

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 8:15 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Can it Wally. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA From Earl Cube 1.2 GHz Johns always have a canny ability to perceive feculence. It's is the very reason for their existence.! ;) And shamefully this thread has again

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Dennis Myhand
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Bruce Johnson You don't do computer support for ~600 faculty, staff and students, in addition to the myriad mailing lists I'm on. You would not believe what some folks consider acceptable for 'professional'

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.netwrote: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Bruce Johnson You don't do computer support for ~600 faculty, staff and students, in addition to the myriad mailing lists I'm on. You

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Dennis Myhand
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. I have tried to teach that very class for the last 7 years. Most of my students could not care less about what I am talking about. They are there to fulfill the state requirements for

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-13 Thread Justin The Cynical
On 6/13/10 9:08 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Like I said, you don't have to believe me if you don't want to. If You don't believe, than good for you. Everyone's different. If you look at my evidence in the face and say that it's fake or a scam, well then, oh well. I really don't care. For those

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-13 Thread iJohn
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Justin The Cynical cyni...@penguinness.org wrote: The problem is that your evidence is something that is easily faked, and you claiming to have done something that shouldn't be possible. Finally a more rational, even tempered response. Thank you! My attitude

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-13 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 13, 2010, at 4:41 PM, iJohn wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Justin The Cynical cyni...@penguinness.org wrote: The problem is that your evidence is something that is easily faked, and you claiming to have done something that shouldn't be possible. Finally a more

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-13 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Well why didn't I think of that earlier? I'll have the video posted on July 9, 2010, because I am going on vacation. I will be back to post the video. --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-13 Thread Albert Carter
Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 8:49:24 PM Subject: Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete? Well why didn't I think of that earlier? I'll have the video posted on July 9, 2010, because I am going on vacation. I will be back to post the video

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Dan
At 9:01 PM + 6/13/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. Be comforted, that in the face of all irridity and disillusionment, and despite the changing fortunes of time, there is always a big future in computer

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.netwrote: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. I have tried to teach that very class for the last 7 years. Most of my students could not care less about

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text

2010-06-13 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:01 PM + 6/13/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. Be comforted, that in the face of all irridity and disillusionment, and despite the changing

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Here is that proof you wanted. Please, after you watch it, don't bug me about this subject ever again. I started what i thought would be an interesting conversation, but all i got is Fed up from other people annoying me with It's fake comments. Since iMovie wasn't compatible with the videos i

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Jeffrey Engle
Hey mark, Thanks for the post!!! I would love to know how you did it? I'm not all that geeky, but I'd like to do this myself. Any way I could get step by step instructions from you? Jeff On Jun 12, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Here is that proof you wanted. Please, after you

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Like i said... it goes like this: I first pulled 4 1GB So-dimm low profile SDRAM modules from a Dell Poweredge 2500 server, and then updated my firmware version from 4.2.8f1 to 5.2.5f1. I restarted, and pressed and held COMMAND+OPTION+P+R. Warning, the PM G5 2003 firmware update only works on the

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Dan
At 3:05 PM -0400 6/12/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Since iMovie wasn't compatible with the videos i recorded (I used my phone, it came out as .WMV files, grrr.) Use ffmpeg to convert the wmv to whatever. The easiest way to get ffmpeg is to install Burn -- it includes an already built copy of

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Jeffrey Engle
well that counts me out. Jeff On Jun 12, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Warning, the PM G5 2003 firmware update only works on the PM G4 sawtooth -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Albert Carter
: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete? Like i said... it goes like this: I first pulled 4 1GB So-dimm low profile SDRAM modules from a Dell Poweredge 2500 server, and then updated my firmware version from 4.2.8f1 to 5.2.5f1. I restarted, and pressed and held COMMAND+OPTION+P+R. Warning, the PM G5 2003

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Frank J. R. Hanstick
Hello, I noticed that when I download many of the Darwin 10 source modules that they have the capability to build for PPC. I have not been able to get xcode to compile some of the modules in PPC and have not figured out how to bypass the xcode lockout. I was wondering if you tried

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 12, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Frank J. R. Hanstick wrote: Hello, I noticed that when I download many of the Darwin 10 source modules that they have the capability to build for PPC. I have not been able to get xcode to compile some of the modules in PPC and have not figured out how to

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 12, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Here is that proof you wanted. Please, after you watch it, don't bug me about this subject ever again. I started what i thought would be an interesting conversation, but all i got is Fed up from other people annoying me with It's fake

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Chance Reecher
Alright, I'll believe the 4GB-in-a-Sawtooth deal, but not the 10.6.3. You are going to want to hurt me for this, but YOUR VIDEO IS FAKE. You're either running a Hackintosh or running 10.5 with a modified About This Mac dialog. Your big mistake was running front row. Front row on 10.6 requires a

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Chance Reecher
Dang it, Bruce. You beat me to him. ;-) On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 12, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Here is that proof you wanted. Please, after you watch it, don't bug me about this subject ever again. I started

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Albert Carter
-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 5:28:16 PM Subject: Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete? Alright, I'll believe the 4GB-in-a-Sawtooth deal, but not the 10.6.3. You are going to want to hurt me for this, but YOUR VIDEO IS FAKE. You're either running a Hackintosh or running 10.5

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Albert Carter slvrmoonti...@yahoo.comwrote: I don't know if I buy the 4 GB of RAM thing. His video didn't offer much proof of that either. He showed the sticks installed he didn't take them out and show us up-close detailed information and didn't show us in the

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 12, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Albert Carter slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't know if I buy the 4 GB of RAM thing. His video didn't offer much proof of that either. He showed the sticks installed he didn't take them

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Chance Reecher
*To:* g3-5-list@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sat, June 12, 2010 5:28:16 PM *Subject:* Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete? Alright, I'll believe the 4GB-in-a-Sawtooth deal, but not the 10.6.3. You are going to want to hurt me for this, but YOUR VIDEO IS FAKE. You're either running a Hackintosh

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread John Callahan
OMG Will this never become obsolete? On Jun 12, 2010, at 5:55 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jun 12, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Albert Carter slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't know if I buy the 4 GB of RAM thing. His video didn't

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 12, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 12, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Here is that proof you wanted. Please, after you watch it, don't bug me about this subject ever again. I started what i thought would be an interesting conversation, but all i got is

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
It's simple. I donot have 10.6.3 on the machine itself. I have it installed as a Virtual system inside an emulation program. You see, the 'flaw you considered wasn't actually a flaw. The reason why it says Mac OS X 10.6.3 and powerPC G4 @400mhz in the same window, is because i took the system

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Chance Reecher
Stop it. You edited the About this Mac dialog in hopes we'd fall for it, and now that we haven't, you're trying to talk your way out of your lie. Why not show us the 4GB in 10.2's ATM window, and then whatever 10.6 supposedly reports without modification? Why fake it in the first place? And

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
i know Q emulator emulates a basic VGA card, but don't forget, i downloaded a virtual Driver for generic Nvidia GeForce cards with 64MB of RAM. I don't think alot of you listened. I asked kindly not to post rude comments. I'm really surprised the group manager hasn't barked at you yet. --  Sent

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Chance Reecher
Mark Sokolovsky wrote: i know Q emulator emulates a basic VGA card, but don't forget, i downloaded a virtual Driver for generic Nvidia GeForce cards with 64MB of RAM. Oh, using big words like virtual driver now are we? One, Q doesn't emulate a GeForce GPU, it emulates a Cirrus Logic

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 12, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: Mark Sokolovsky wrote: i know Q emulator emulates a basic VGA card, but don't forget, i downloaded a virtual Driver for generic Nvidia GeForce cards with 64MB of RAM. MARK, cool it I been trying to get an answer to why my MacBook screen

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Look. I said no mean comments, and i also said no bugging me about this afterwards in the original message. This topic is closed. BYE. I really don't care if nobody believes me. this is your proof for ya, and you twisted it into into garbage. Why can't people accept that such accomplishments have

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread John Ruschmeyer
And this is where the whole thing breaks down into fairy land... Here we have a host system of a PPC G4 @ 400mhz emulating a DUAL-CORE processor of a completely different architecture at approx. 4x the clock speed of the native processor. This defies all common sense whatsoever. I can maybe buy

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 12, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Look. I said no mean comments, and i also said no bugging me about this afterwards in the original message. This topic is closed. BYE. I really don't care if nobody believes me. this is your proof for ya, and you twisted it into into

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-12 Thread John Carmonne
I must come to Mark's defense here. FWIW. I've read in the past a post by someone I think maybe Bruce J about the ability to boot from USB on PPC machines direct not through OS 9, however I never quite was able to figure how, anyway I read one of Mark's posts a while back and he explained how

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-11 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 10, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: okay, i will post a video on sunday, but anywhere i can get a screen recording program for Mac OS X? http://tinyurl.com/37fs9rb -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-11 Thread Baha Ata
www.macosxapplications.com 4 GB is impossible... If you do not change your mainboard with an amiga mainboard and install... 2010/6/11 Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com: okay, i will post a video on sunday, but anywhere i can get a screen recording program for Mac OS X? --  Sent from my

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-10 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 9, 2010, at 11:28 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: If you can get 4gigs of RAM in a sawtooth (which officially has a max capacity of 2 gigs), I want to know how! I'm not certain if this article will enable 4GB RAM for you, but I suspect it will, if this is possible? Instead of reducing

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-10 Thread Daniel Stewart
Whether a computer is obselete really depends on what you want to do with the computer. I mean the space shuttle runs of a i386. I use mine primarily as my digital darkroom for photography and it works perfectly for what I use it for. Furthermore various open source software will likely extend

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-10 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
4 1GB So-dimms LOW PROFILE from a dell poweredge 2500 server. They must be low profile or they won't work. Be prepared to re-install the OS. Insert the RAM, start up and press and hold COMMAND+OPTION+P+R. There was a combined OF command, but i forgot what it was. It was after a while of learning

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-10 Thread Albert Carter
: Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 2:45:13 AM Subject: Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete? 4 1GB So-dimms LOW PROFILE from a dell poweredge 2500 server. They must be low profile or they won't work. Be prepared to re-install the OS

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-10 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
That method does not work, because this was one of the ways I tried out, and it showed up as 1Gb instead of 4Gb of ram, so i quickly ditched the resort. --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4,

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-10 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 10, 2010, at 5:00 AM, Albert Carter wrote: First of all G4 Power Macs do not take SO-DIMMs and neither do Dell Servers. SO-DIMMs are for Laptops and Tray Loading G3 iMacs. Secondly I doubt a PowerMac G4 would except a G5 Firmware the board wouldn't allow it the structure is

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