On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:12, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote:
On 2010-08-11, Niall Pemberton wrote:
The real point though is not size - its *activity*.
[absolutely correct observation of low activity snipped]
My concern is if RAT goes TLP then it may be a small step away from
not
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 15:30, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Hi Guys,
[...]
So yes, development activity is low.
OTOH patches get applied and releases are made if there is anything to
fix. I'm sure we could have gotten more people to vote if it had been
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 19:24, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 6:28:17 PM
Subject: Re: an experiment
Ant,
My personal opinion (and i am hoping!) was that such individuals
from
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 09:58, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
However, I'm not sure I get the whole reasoning below RE: TLP? Why not have
a RAT TLP? The overhead of filing board reports and
Let me repeat: where does it say a TLP must be at least THIS size ?
Answer: nowhere.
Small projects are just fine. We're looking at the overall community
and the people to shepherd that community. Those are the RAT
developers and users. Not the Apache Commons or Apache Maven people.
They have
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 06:40, Jochen Wiedmann
jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote:
...
WDYT?
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 15:26, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote:
...
I'd suggest letting the RAT PPMC decide what they want to do. If they are
unable to come to a decision, they can come
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 15:25, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
Hi!
Maybe I need to catch up with the current status: is RAT still mainly targeted
to ASF projects, or is it a general Release Audit Tool and as such also useful
for releasing GPLed or BSL style projects?
If it is still
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 22:43, Philip M. Gollucci pgollu...@p6m7g8.com wrote:
On 8/10/2010 10:39 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Greg Steingst...@gmail.com wrote:
It is *very* true that Infra, Legal, and (all?) ASF PMCs will be
clients/users of the tool. But
Hi all,
The ASF Board just voted to approve the graduation of Subversion from
the Incubator. We are now an official project of the Apache Software
Foundation!
Go forth! Be merry!
Cheers,
-g
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for my initial role. I've placed a resolution onto the Board's
agenda for its meeting tomorrow.
Thanks,
-g
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 23:08, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all,
I started a discussion thread a week-ish ago to seek out issues for
Subversion's graduation. The couple bits
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 23:51, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
...
The graduation page [1] mentions that a resolution should be
available. Do we need/Is there one for subversion ?
We don't need one until the vote passes. It sure looks that way, but
we'll wait the standard 72 hours.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 04:56, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
On 1/26/10 6:00 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Greg Steingst...@gmail.com wrote:
Before calling for a vote to graduate Subversion, I figured it prudent
to have a discussion first. I believe
Hi all,
Before calling for a vote to graduate Subversion, I figured it prudent
to have a discussion first. I believe Subversion is quite ready (and
has been, but the holidays and whatnot kept me from sending this
earlier).
Any thoughts on why Subversion should NOT graduate now?
Thanks,
-g
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 17:21, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@sun.com wrote:
Hi Greg,
On Jan 25, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
Hi all,
Before calling for a vote to graduate Subversion, I figured it prudent
to have a discussion first. I believe Subversion is quite ready (and
has been
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Key: INFRA-2349
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2349
Project: Infrastructure
Issue Type: Task
Security Level: public(Regular issues)
Components: Subversion
Reporter: Greg Stein
Dunno. Lots of java packages have had to deal with the issue as they
migrate to the ASF. I'm sure that gene...@incubator (cc'd) has some
prior knowledge and precedent.
Cheers,
-g
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:47, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net wrote:
What does the migration mean for
Hey all,
The Subversion mailing lists have been created. The dev community has
not (yet) decided on its migration strategy/timing, but if you're
interested in subscribing to any of the lists, that's now possible.
We have five lists: dev, users, announce, commits, and private.
For any lists,
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:06, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
But your above paragraph is some conflation of release practices,
legal review, and how this fits into graduation requirements. And I
just got
@incubator.apache.org
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:
* moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org
* placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than /incubator/subversion/
We
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:32, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote:
...
I agree with this, and as a Cassandra committer I have in the past
protested our use of RTC. However, the current work-flow *in practice*
is more about having someone, anyone, give changes a once over (making
sure they
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:18, Niall Pemberton
niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings
how to work here at Apache.
It is not about making podlings thoughtlessly
, it
is still under purview of the IPMC)
Is there any further discussion or concerns before we pull the trigger?
fwiw, the software grant should arrive tmw, and ICLAs are being
recorded as we speak.
Thanks,
-g
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 14:27, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
There are two other
Thanks, and yes: agreed on the rationale.
And have no fears. We aren't going to back out. And I'm not seeing
that the ASF would boot us. So that just means we need to work through
it :-)
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 19:17, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Greg
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:44, Matthieu Riou matthieu.r...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:24 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote:
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 07:16 +, ant elder wrote:
so about 6 months ago
that stresses individualism rather than cooperation.
Cheers,
-g
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 17:46, Aidan Skinner aidan.skin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Not a strong opinion, but I think that RTC hampers the free-flow of
ideas
Forgot to list the Infrastructure ticket, in case you would like to
follow the migration more closely:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2321
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 13:41, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
It looks like we might be moving the code repository over on
Sunday
to this list
after the creation is complete so that you can subscribe.
Cheers,
-g
[1] but shifting subscribers w/o consent is not among them :-)
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 14:27, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:
* moving the mailing
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 22:05, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Plan: raise an issue, and we fix it.
Not sure what else you're looking for.
I was just pointing out that if you want to do the release review
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 00:14, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
...
On your other subject, svn and lists and site at subversion.apache.org, that
is a problem but not insurmountable.
If we move 1) the lists to subversion.apache.org [it's just a discussion,
right? Only publicized
Plan: raise an issue, and we fix it.
Not sure what else you're looking for. We have a lot of active developers.
Lots of hands to be responsive.
Cheers,
-g
On Nov 11, 2009 1:48 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Davanum Srinivas
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 07:06, Niall Pemberton
niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
...
It already has the Apache License (v2), and it uses a NOTICE file (per
the license), and our packaging is tighter/stronger than typical
Apache
Not a strong opinion, but I think that RTC hampers the free-flow of
ideas, experimentation, evolution, and creativity. It is a damper on
expressivity. You maneuver bureaucracy to get a change in. CTR is
about making a change and discussing it. But you get *forward
progress*.
I also feel that RTC
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 20:48, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
Is this topic really appropriate for incubator general? I'm having trouble
following along with all the noise.
At the root, it is a discussion about LGPL dependencies in an incoming podling.
Neon is LGPL. Serf is
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:59, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net wrote:
...
I certainly understand why license issues would be a concern. But I could
use an education about why this particular case matters. We currently ship
Neon in a separate tarball from Subversion's core code for the
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:23, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
...
* Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker, Daniel
Rall
Once again, caution against committers == mentors (== 'project leads').
It puts certain committers above others, an inequitable
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 07:06, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:23 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
Sponsors
* Champion: Greg Stein
Cool
* Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker, Daniel
Rall
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:48, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings
how to work here at Apache.
I'm a little confused. I'm reading a really long rant here, but I expect
if you look at what
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:59, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
Yup. And I'll note that that limbo you describe has been an issue
with the Board for a long while now. That is why the Board instructed
the IPMC to request all podlings to list two items
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:07, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Leo Simons wrote:
Here's what I understand:
1) Apache rule: all apache releases must be made by PMCs
2) Apache rule: a release needs at least 3 binding +1s and more +1s than -1s
3) from #1 and #2 it follows that
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:16, Blair Zajac bl...@orcaware.com wrote:
On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:59, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net wrote:
...
I certainly understand why license issues would be a concern. But I could
use an education
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:29, Jochen Wiedmann
jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net
wrote:
Subversion client and server that doesn't use a DAV layer at all. The
Subversion community has never released binaries -- ever -- not
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:22, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
...
The IPMC is in charge of its operation. It can redefine the rules of
releases as it pleases. The three +1 rule was developed to show that
the PMC
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:23, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
...
And that is exactly what I'd like to do. But when the Incubator
*imposes* requirements of release that does not meet the project's own
quality guidelines
/mirror
system, announcements, among others[1]. We believe that the Subversion
community already has a deep understanding of the Apache release
model, based on the following qualifications of several of its
committers/mentors:
* Greg Stein has been a committer at Apache since before the
Foundation
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:11, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
The IPMC is in charge of its operation. It can redefine the rules of
releases as it pleases. The three +1 rule was developed to show that
the PMC is in charge of the release, and is therefore
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:02, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
We're making a 1.6.7 release in the next 2-3 weeks, as I stated
before. The Incubator can see how that works (I also gave pointers to
1.6.6
I have no idea why the term Board even comes up in your response.
What's that got to do with my problems with the IPMC attempting to
impose make-work on the svn podling?
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:03, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:59
for
Incubator graduation
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
Hello IPMC,
The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make
a release before graduation.
As we understand this requirement, it is present in order to
demonstrate to the podling how
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:51, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello IPMC,
The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make
a release before graduation.
As we understand this requirement
Consider this withdrawn for now.
I'll resubmit when we think we're nearing time for graduation.
Cheers,
-g
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:17, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello IPMC,
The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make
a release before graduation.
As we
There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:
* moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org
* placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than /incubator/subversion/
We are hoping to minimize overall disruption to the community with a
move to incubator
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 14:23, Garrett Rooney
roo...@electricjellyfish.net wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Jochen Wiedmann
jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net
wrote:
Subversion client and server that doesn't use a
The project status will stay there and be maintained as long as we're
incubating. That's my initial draft to get it into the system. I need
to spend more time with it (but have spent time getting other
discussions/tasks into the pipeline). I'm just about out of that
stuff, so will go update that
much of a burden for you guys :)
On 11/10/2009 02:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:
* moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org
* placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than
/incubator/subversion/
We
(was:
[PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
Unfortunately, some documentation needs to be brought in sync.
See: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist
I'm nitpicking, but even there we only ask the podlings to
demonstrate
Dims: Exactly.
The svn devs have been talking off/on what to do about contrib/ for
nearly a year. Various options: simply toss it and wait for people to
cry and do something to fix it; somehow get it all relicensed (one of
the contributors already said no); etc etc.
Current consensus seems to be
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 17:35, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
...
Neither 1.6.6 nor the upcoming 1.6.7 are Apache-branded releases. The
input that I received was that that was insufficient -- a branded
release was necessary.
I haven't seen that discussion, but unless you actually
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 21:09, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:
* moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org
* placing the source code
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 22:17, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 21:09, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
...
I am fine with doing everything as if this was a TLP with the two exceptions
that 1) the main page should say it is still in incubation 2
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 22:41, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 21:09, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
wrote:
On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
There are two other issues to discuss
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 09:14, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings
how to work here at Apache.
So what are you teaching with e-mails like this, Greg
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 09:27, Martijn Dashorst
martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, *AND* ensuring legal dots are put on the i's and j's. This is
done through checking the release and ensuring that it is in adherence
to our policies which you and others have crafted. *All* podlings have
to
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:11, Andrus Adamchik and...@objectstyle.org wrote:
Hi Greg,
I am not on either side of the debate here, but Martijn is correct in
pointing that the formal standard was applied to *all* podlings to date.
I understand, and will simply ask was that the right thing to do?
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:53, Andrus Adamchik and...@objectstyle.org wrote:
On Nov 9, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
I mean, really... how many other projects that are 9.5 years old(*) do
we expect to see arriving here? And of those, how many *started* with
the ideas and precepts
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:16, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
...
Not merit, just binding vote. I agree that it sucks, but it is not
something where the incubator has gone awry, it has _always_ been
messed up like this.
Here's what I understand:
1) Apache rule: all apache releases must
The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings
how to work here at Apache.
It is not about making podlings thoughtlessly follow checklists.
It is about TEACHING them what are the important aspects of
development at Apache. About SHOWING them each of the items to be
aware
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 20:07, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
The proposal to make Subversion an Apache Incubator podling has PASSED.
Later this weekend, I'll start sending out emails and requests to
begin the process. I've also started on the Podling web documents
the process. I've also started on the Podling web documents.
etc. There are also a number of issues for the dev list to decide
upon, and followups from that.
Cheers,
-g
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 15:12, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Subversion is a version control system. You probably know
, which was incorporated into the
FS design. In February Brian Behlendorf invited Greg Stein to
contribute his WebDAV experience to Subversion. Ben Colins-Sussman
was hired in April 2000 to work on the project. In that same month
the first all hands meeting was held, where a number of interested
people
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 23:15, Curt Arnoldcarn...@apache.org wrote:
Noah Slater | 9 Aug 12:42 wrote:
I think this is a poor summary. Your thread was taken seriously, and
people responded, but as far as I knew, discussion was still ongoing. The
way you've worded it could lead people into
+1
I'll make the edits.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Currently on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html, we have:
---
Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list, with notice posted to the
Incubator private list. The notice is a separate
I don't find the name provocative either, but the connotations are a
bit weird :-P
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Niclas Hedhman wrote:
a) The name Pig is somewhat provocative (not kosher/halal) and I
would like to hear the
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comfortable with it
being added, I will defer to your judgement.
I just did my reviews and it wasn't in there, so +1 for not accepting.
-- justin
Having already reviewed it while it lived at incubator, I'm giving Greg
my 100% backing to accept or not, his call.
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to the carpet and demand an explanation. If he
had a good one, then alright. That's how it works.
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the board minutes:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2005/
board_minutes_2005_05_18.txt
Anybody can point to a better template?
Thanks
Andrus
On Dec 2, 2006, at 4:51 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
The name would be Apache Cayenne Project. Please fix before
submitting to the Board
The name would be Apache Cayenne Project. Please fix before
submitting to the Board.
There is some stupid virus of a template showing these as Apache Foo
PMC which has to stop.
People should really look at actual resolutions that the Board
approves, not what gets sent in. We sometimes tweak
again, it can change again.
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...
Projects have included their start date and one line description at the
Board's request. Please note that this has always been available at
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/.
Thanks!
And yes... we knew about that, but we felt
On 10/24/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
The Incubator is about verification, not participation. I think Geir
is wrong in trying to lever IPMC members into more project
involvement. We are here as volunteers to oversee the process, not
participate
. It isn't that formal. We all know what's going on. A vote
happens here, a resolution passes there. 'nuf said.
...
Please send in your +1/0/-1 to approve/abstain/disapprove.
+1
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not interested in... this is a volunteer system. I'm
participating in the Incubator, not Harmony. Sure, Harmony is part of
it, but trying to say that I must now participate in harmony-dev to
have a say? Bull.
The binding voters are on *this* list, or on our private list.
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themselves together to produce a release. I've seen long-time Apache
folks who know what's going on still have difficulty pulling the
community together.
Food for thought...
Cheers,
-g
On 10/19/06, Greg Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Without question, Harmony knows how to manage its legal bits
burrell donkin wrote:
On 10/18/06, Greg Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You said that you have run Tomcat on top of Harmony. Why can't you
produce a release such that I can throw the Tomcat jar at it, too?
Sure, it is a developer release, but it let's non-Harmony folks play
with your project
that would be busy work
with no utility. Fair answer, but I will note that nobody has made a
clear statement like that. Talked around the issue, but never directly
answered.
Cheers,
-g
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actually *get* those votes, rather than people being
quiet, too afraid to counter the majority.
Cheers,
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with the request-response nature of the
HTTP protocol. will really help. The web *is* request/response.
Whatever. ETIMEOUT.
-0 (binding)
Cheers,
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voted -0 based on the information I was pointed
out, which (as you said) is not a very good comparison point.
*shrug*
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the
benefit of Geronimo sponsoring that you're seeing. And without that
understanding, then I get to make up crazy reasons :-P
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, and the more important it is
to stamp it out right here and now. And that is what the Incubator is
all about. Erase the lines and create a community that can work on
something with a cooperative atmosphere.
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 05:56:49PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 12:42:58PM -0800, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
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Sybase wants to donate to the service-mix community and the
ServiceMix community wants to work with the code
Sergey Vladimirov.
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require that it be amended. But you should not
simply be able to kill it outright. Go to the Board for that because
the implication is that the PMC is not acting in the Foundation's best
interests, and THAT is for the Board to handle. Not the Incubator.
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is valid, but
how many and how badly will it hurt them? Can projects that use the
old namespace just stick to the old codebase? If they want new stuff,
then couldn't they just update their references?
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as all of the other project resources,
e.g., the web site and SVN subtree.
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On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:58:40AM -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
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Derby is actively trying to expand the number and independence of their
Committers, with an eye towards graduating from the Incubator.
They're missing a status report.
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