Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-24 Thread Mohammad Islam
My personal experience with Tez for last few months was very good.  Although I am not from the same company from where the Tez project originally started, the Tez community was very helpful to quickly ramp me up. The community has patiently and promptly gave the constructive feedbacks/comments

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-24 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
If I am not mistaken, no one really doubt the possible value of Tez (incubating) for other open- and close-source projects. I don't think it is an intention of the IPMC or a wider incubator community to pass the judgement on the technical viability of a project. What is discussed, on the other

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-24 Thread Chris Douglas
I'll detail why I think Tez is ready to graduate. Nobody is concerned about its activity, relevance, or ability to produce releases. So I won't belabor those points. Let's focus on whether the Tez project is approachable as a project and as a community. Posting project plans and discussing them

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Ted Dunning
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Regardless of whether it is an explicit requirement to have some specific level of diversity, there is a requirement that the group demonstrate community building. I'm also sympathetic to this:

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment] On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Regardless of whether it is an explicit requirement to have some specific level of diversity

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Ted Dunning
[Was: Request for mentor assessment] On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Regardless of whether it is an explicit requirement to have some specific level of diversity, there is a requirement that the group demonstrate community

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment] On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Regardless of whether it is an explicit requirement to have some specific level of diversity, there is a requirement that the group

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Hitesh Shah
for mentor assessment] On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Regardless of whether it is an explicit requirement to have some specific level of diversity, there is a requirement that the group demonstrate community building. I'm

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
@incubator.apache.org Date: Monday, June 23, 2014 1:20 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Cc: d...@tez.incubator.apache.org d...@tez.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment] Hi folks, To be very clear, the project's source of truth has always

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Ted Dunning
I will look as soon as possible. I am on a trip right now and am occupied with day job stuff 12 hours a day. If you don't hear from me in a short time, move forward based in your best judgment. I trust the group to consider my impressions and to think about what merit they may (or may not)

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Monday, June 23, 2014 1:39 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Cc: d...@tez.incubator.apache.org d...@tez.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment] I will look as soon as possible. I

RE: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Bikas Saha
Tez. Thanks Bikas -Original Message- From: Mattmann, Chris A (3980) [mailto:chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 1:46 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: d...@tez.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment] Thanks Ted

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Ted Dunning
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Bikas Saha bi...@hortonworks.com wrote: Community building is an organic process that grows on its own accord. Really, I was going to run away for a bit, but my feeling is that this statement is amazingly naive about how communities are built. Community

RE: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Bikas Saha
...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 2:41 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: d...@tez.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment] On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Bikas Saha bi...@hortonworks.com wrote: Community building is an organic process that grows

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Bikas Saha bi...@hortonworks.com wrote: Community building is an organic process that grows on its own accord. Really, I was going to run away for a bit, but my feeling is that this

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli
I see two threads here - Concerns about graduation of Apache Tez project w.r.t diversity based on the PPMC html page - Community related threads about things like whether diversity is a hard requirement or how to grow communities. AFAICT, Hitesh's latest information on the state of the

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli vino...@apache.org wrote: I see two threads here - Concerns about graduation of Apache Tez project w.r.t diversity based on the PPMC html page - Community related threads about things like whether diversity is a hard requirement or

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Rohini Palaniswamy
I will add my two cents in here on the diversity front as a member of the Pig team which has been working closely with Tez team for the past 3 quarters. There has been a whole lot of features and design changes done in Tez driven by requirements from Pig and it has been a pleasure working with

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-22 Thread Ted Dunning
@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:18 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment] Looks like the page is not updated because the proposal mentions more diverse people [1] [1

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-22 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment] Looks like the page is not updated because the proposal mentions more diverse people [1] [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TezProposal On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Konstantin

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-21 Thread Henry Saputra
@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Request for mentor assessment On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like NPanday should go to attic. One mentor I asked did not even monitor it anymore I've had exactly the same experience. My plan here is to wait

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-21 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment] Looks like the page is not updated because the proposal mentions more diverse people [1] [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TezProposal On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org wrote: Ok, I've reached

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-21 Thread Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli
...@shaposhnik.org Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:44 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Request for mentor assessment On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-20 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
, 2014 5:44 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Request for mentor assessment On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like NPanday should go to attic. One mentor I asked did not even monitor

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-20 Thread Ted Dunning
- From: Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:44 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Request for mentor assessment On Wed, Jun 11, 2014

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 16 Jun 2014, at 21:56, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:31PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: On 06/12/2014 07:56 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: This suggests that ASF is being used as a GitHub of sorts. Are we comfortable with this? It's not really like GitHub. There is a

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-18 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: - no new committer for a year - AND no release for a year - AND less than 20 emails in a month on dev@ - AND less than 10 commits in a month - AND no way to change this in the next three months (in example:

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-17 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:44 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Request for mentor assessment On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like NPanday should go to attic

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Roman, On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: ... * DeviceMap has been in the incubator since 2012-01-03. It seems like it is still struggling with the basics: producing releases and growing its PMC. What's the recommendation here?...

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-16 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:44 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Request for mentor assessment On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like NPanday should go to attic. One mentor I asked did not even

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-16 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:31PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: On 06/12/2014 07:56 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: This is one of the questions, I'd like to explore in greater details: are we comfortable with having professional student projects in the incubator? In response to the general question,

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-16 Thread Chris Douglas
for mentor assessment On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like NPanday should go to attic. One mentor I asked did not even monitor it anymore I've had exactly the same experience. My plan here is to wait for folks to chime in on this thread

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-13 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I pinged Kalumet on their dev list and they seem keep to continue. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-13 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:00 AM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, I pinged Kalumet on their dev list and they seem keep to continue. Hm. It would be useful if we could come up with concrete steps to move this project in a particular direction. But even before that happens, I'd

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-13 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote: On 06/12/2014 07:56 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: This is one of the questions, I'd like to explore in greater details: are we comfortable with having professional student projects in the incubator? In response to the

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-12 Thread Upayavira
Roman, Regarding Wave, this comes up periodically. The two mentors (myself and Christian) are of the opinion that it sitting in the incubator is not doing harm. The project is definitely in need of new resource, and I wonder whether it will gain the necessary, but up until now, those active devs

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-12 Thread Patrick Hunt
The S4 retirement vote is in progress: http://markmail.org/message/mkxdu6fnzmsybeq2 Patrick On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: Hi! I would like to kindly request some assistance from the mentors of the following projects: devicemap, kalumet, s4, wave

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like NPanday should go to attic. One mentor I asked did not even monitor it anymore I've had exactly the same experience. My plan here is to wait for folks to chime in on this thread and for those mentors who

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-12 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:44 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Request for mentor assessment On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like NPanday should go to attic

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:26 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: Roman, Regarding Wave, this comes up periodically. The two mentors (myself and Christian) are of the opinion that it sitting in the incubator is not doing harm. The project is definitely in need of new resource, and I wonder

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-12 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 06/12/2014 07:56 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: This is one of the questions, I'd like to explore in greater details: are we comfortable with having professional student projects in the incubator? In response to the general question, it seems that professional student podlings are inconsistent

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-12 Thread Deng Ching-Mallete
Hi all, As I've replied to Roman earlier in a separate email thread in NPanday list, I have already stepped down as mentor for the project over a year ago. Anyway, I took a quick look at the Jira and commit notifications, and the last commit made was on April 4. There have been a number of

Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-11 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! I would like to kindly request some assistance from the mentors of the following projects: devicemap, kalumet, s4, wave and npanday (all CCed). I would like to figure out whether the concerns I have for these projects are justified and if they are, what would be the proposed steps for the

Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-11 Thread Henry Saputra
Seems like NPanday should go to attic. One mentor I asked did not even monitor it anymore On Wednesday, June 11, 2014, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: Hi! I would like to kindly request some assistance from the mentors of the following projects: devicemap, kalumet, s4, wave and