; Verzonden: Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:00 PM
> Aan: Jakarta General List
> Onderwerp: RE: Printable pages
>
>
> Berin:
> > > > In that case, the entire Jakarta site needs to be redesigned.
> > > > It makes use of embedded tables and elements. It does
> &
> > thoughts? Is this wanted?
>
> Looks good to me, certainly better than the avalon section as it stands
> IMHO, just a couple of points though.
> I like the "Apache.org > Jakarta > Avalon > Framework: " depth indication -
> would be great to see this applied across the board.
> I can't decide w
- Original Message -
From: "Leo Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 8:59 PM
Subject: RE: Printable pages
> Berin:
> > > > In that case, the entire Jakarta site needs to
"Leo Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 25/03/2002 07:59:47 AM:
> Berin:
> > > > In that case, the entire Jakarta site needs to be redesigned.
> > > > It makes use of embedded tables and elements. It does
> > > > not use CSS at all.
>
> Jon:
> > > Correct.
>
> Me:
> > I don't know much abou
Berin:
> > > In that case, the entire Jakarta site needs to be redesigned.
> > > It makes use of embedded tables and elements. It does
> > > not use CSS at all.
Jon:
> > Correct.
Me:
> I don't know much about anakia, but I know more about xhtml and css
> than I do about java (sadly so =). I'll
gt; On 3/21/02 5:20 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/03/2002 08:13:31
> > AM:
> >>>
> >>>>> -Original Message-
> >
On 22 Mar 2002, Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BTW, you don't need admin rights to install Mozilla.
There may be a difference between what you can do and what you are
allowed to do 8-)
> BTW, you should bug your admins to upgrade.
I'm happily using mozilla-0.9.9, thanks. I was
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 02:57, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> on 3/21/02 11:50 PM, "Stefan Bodewig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > True, but not everybody is allowed to upgrade. Quite a few of our
> > (Jakarta's) users sit behind corporate firewalls at machines they
> > don't have administrative acc
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 02:50, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> On 21 Mar 2002, Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 16:53, Ted Husted wrote:
>
> >> I would be -1 on a product change that made the main Jakarta web
> >> site inaccessible with Netscape 4.x.
> >
> > Why...how
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/03/2002 08:13:31
> AM:
>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:07 PM
>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
on 3/21/02 11:50 PM, "Stefan Bodewig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> True, but not everybody is allowed to upgrade. Quite a few of our
> (Jakarta's) users sit behind corporate firewalls at machines they
> don't have administrative access to and are not allowed to install
> additional software.
>
On 21 Mar 2002, Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 16:53, Ted Husted wrote:
>> I would be -1 on a product change that made the main Jakarta web
>> site inaccessible with Netscape 4.x.
>
> Why...how long has Netscape 6 been out > 1yr.
True, but not everybody is a
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 16:53, Ted Husted wrote:
> Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> > I'm ok with that. Netscape 6 and IE 5.5 are released versions of the latest
> > technologies. If those new technologies support the features we need, then
> > lets require them for those features. It is like the big swit
> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:07 PM
> >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Subject: Re: Printable pages
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> on 3/21/02 12:57 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>&
on 3/21/02 2:20 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Being one of the XSLT weenies, could we use the site.xsl as the basis for
> site.dvsl? Last I checked, they were in sync. Not that I know squat about
> vsl :)
I'm talking about re-doing the stylesheets entirely. There is no 'ba
on 3/21/02 1:53 PM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
>> I'm ok with that. Netscape 6 and IE 5.5 are released versions of the latest
>> technologies. If those new technologies support the features we need, then
>> lets require them for those features. It is like t
; Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:07 PM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: Re: Printable pages
>>>
>>>
>>> on 3/21/02 12:57 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In that case, the ent
"Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/03/2002 08:13:31 AM:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:07 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Pri
on the stylesheet
>working.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:51 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Printable pages
>>
>>
>> What I would like to do regar
Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> I'm ok with that. Netscape 6 and IE 5.5 are released versions of the latest
> technologies. If those new technologies support the features we need, then
> lets require them for those features. It is like the big switch from JDK 1.1
> to JDK 1.2. :-)
I agree that a more
> on 3/21/02 12:57 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In that case, the entire Jakarta site needs to be redesigned.
> > It makes use of embedded tables and elements. It does
> > not use CSS at all.
>
> Correct.
I don't know much about anakia, but I know more about xhtml and c
> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Printable pages
>
>
> on 3/21/02 12:57 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
on 3/21/02 12:57 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In that case, the entire Jakarta site needs to be redesigned.
> It makes use of embedded tables and elements. It does
> not use CSS at all.
Correct.
My long time goal has been to convert the Jakarta site over to use Scarab's
you can't count on the stylesheet
working.
> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Printable pages
>
>
> What I would like to do regarding this
What I would like to do regarding this is to not have to generate two sets
of pages or have to generate PDF files as well as HTML.
I would rather see the Jakarta site/stylesheet to use CSS and take advantage
of the tag to have a printable stylesheet...
This is what Scarab does...
-jon
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: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:57 PM
>> To: Jakarta General List
>> Subject: Re: Printable pages
>>
>>
>> On 3/21/02 11:17 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>
. Whether it is in the form of
PDF docs or just printerfriendly HTML docs I really don't care.
> -Original Message-
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:57 PM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: Printable pages
>
&
On 3/21/02 11:17 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 08:39, Berin Loritsch wrote:
>
>> I tried looking at the BCEL manual, and while it looks nice on screen,
>> when I
>> tried to print it out it cut off almost two inches of text.
>
> Yup, that's my fault. I w
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 08:39, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> I tried looking at the BCEL manual, and while it looks nice on screen,
> when I
> tried to print it out it cut off almost two inches of text.
Yup, that's my fault. I will remedy the situation with PDFs. A very long
time ago before Anakia we
Could we have two templates for the jakarta pages? The problem is that
the
embedded tables inside tables inside tables inside tables ... approach
of the
default template causes many very useful pages to not print nicely. We
need
a nice template that produces printable pages. That means that
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