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Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The list is named [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ok, I suggest the creation of such mailing list and the creation of
a Jon page explaining the whole Jon issue... linked from Jakarta's
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From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
[...]
Now, I'm going to go back and start writing some more code
(and answering
some more user questions). I suggest we all do the same.
Craig,
While I more than vastly respect the huge work you are doing
Stephane Bailliez wrote:
I just had the same problem a couple of hours ago. Someone asked how to
retrieve the servlet parameters from web.xml, I replied with the link to the
servlet api..then I got a private email please help, could you give the
name of class that does it. Like what he did
: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Comment for Apache.org
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Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The list is named [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ok, I suggest the creation of such mailing list and the creation
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From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
[...]
The most important thing to remember is that we are all
volunteers here,
and we are not alone. If you don't want to do something, don't do it.
Someone else will step in ... that's what meritocracy is all about.
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Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The list is named [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ok, I suggest the creation of such mailing list and the creation of
a Jon page explaining
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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:35 PM
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From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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The most important thing to remember is that we are all
volunteers here
On 10 Dec 2001, Kevin A. Burton - burtonator wrote:
| Give jon a break. With all the hard work he has done he at least deserves the
| benefit of the doubt on all these e-mails.
What about the times when there is no doubt? When he just behaves totally
assholeish?
|
| When you come close to
In my opinion, if you haven't contributed anything, then you are
just leeching off the hard work of the many individuals behind the
Jakarta project
What does one's relative standing in the Jakarta project have to do with
how you conduct yourself with other project members - or even
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:45 PM
When you come close to 1/5th the amount of work he has done
for Apache then you
can judge.
So, if I understand Apache's so-called meritocracy system, the
more you do for a project, the more
At 10:32 AM -0500 12/11/01, Tiseo, Paul wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:45 PM
When you come close to 1/5th the amount of work he has done
for Apache then you
can judge.
So, if I understand Apache's so-called meritocracy
On Tuesday, December 11, 2001, at 03:19 PM, lloyd wrote:
In my opinion, if you haven't contributed anything, then you are
just leeching off the hard work of the many individuals behind the
Jakarta project
What does one's relative standing in the Jakarta project have to do with
how you
On 12/11/01 10:32 AM, Tiseo, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:45 PM
When you come close to 1/5th the amount of work he has done
for Apache then you
can judge.
So, if I understand Apache's so-called
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, robert burrell donkin wrote:
if you want things to change, then you need to do something about it (am i
sounding like jon? ;) if you were to answer newbie questions - to the best
of your ability - then jon wouldn't have to make time to answer them.
there's something
I vastly respect Jon's contributions to Apache -- but I'm disappointed
that he doesn't seem to care that his approach to email makes
the overall
community smaller than it otherwise would be (due to people not being
willing to deal with his style).
Thanks Craig, Sorry Jon, I Agree..
In my opinion, if you haven't contributed anything, then you are
just leeching off the hard work of the many individuals behind the
Jakarta project
Everybody could disagree with someone but the generally accepted
rule is to stay correct with the person. There is many forums on
the web to
On 12/11/01 5:12 PM, GOMEZ Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my opinion, if you haven't contributed anything, then you are
just leeching off the hard work of the many individuals behind the
Jakarta project
Everybody could disagree with someone but the generally accepted
rule is to stay
.
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From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:27 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: Comment for Apache.org
On 12/11/01 5:12 PM, GOMEZ Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my opinion, if you haven't contributed anything
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From: robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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if you want things to change, then you need to do something about it (am i
sounding like jon? ;) if you were to answer newbie questions - to the best
of your ability - then jon wouldn't have to make time to
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From: Frans Thamura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
[...]
Is there a team that responsible for managing the projects of apache
projects.
Like in Apache XML may be there is a team that manage that.
I have been working several years in IT, and managing the
Wow. It would be really great if you wrote an email that made some logical
Having lurked on this list for awhile, I'd say it would be great if you
could get through one e-mail exchange without being an asshole.
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lloyd wrote:
Wow. It would be really great if you wrote an email that made some logical
Having lurked on this list for awhile, I'd say it would be great if you
could get through one e-mail exchange without being an asshole.
Not again.
People, even if you don't like Jon, can we just let
It is admittedly not a perfect universe, but I think the Jakarta
Universe would be poorer without Jon Stevens in our midst. Some things
are a package deal, and Jon seems to be one of them.
I sometimes wonder if he is not employing reverse psychology on the rest
of it. For example, it was Jon's
Frans,
Jakarta has a Project Management Committee, much the same as XML. We are
all run by the Apache Software Foundation, and have the same ground
rules.
http://apache.org/foundation/roles.html
There is a private PMC mailing list, but it is rarely used. Most
communication takes place here,
Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:08 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: Comment for Apache.org
It is admittedly not a perfect universe, but I think the Jakarta
Universe would be poorer without Jon Stevens in our midst. Some things
are a package deal
Ted Husted wrote:
I sometimes wonder if he is not employing reverse psychology on the rest
of it. For example, it was Jon's flames that gave birth to the Commons
(like a Phoenix rising from the ashes). He said that saying some of us
weren't playing nice with others -- so we set up a
On 12/10/01 9:08 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is admittedly not a perfect universe, but I think the Jakarta
Universe would be poorer without Jon Stevens in our midst. Some things
are a package deal, and Jon seems to be one of them.
I sometimes wonder if he is not employing
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lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wow. It would be really great if you wrote an email that made some logical
Having lurked on this list for awhile, I'd say it would be great if you
could get through one e-mail exchange without being an asshole.
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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:28 AM
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lloyd wrote:
Wow. It would be really great if you wrote an email that made some
logical
Having lurked on this list for awhile, I'd say it would be great if you
could get through one e-mail exchange without being
on 12/10/01 4:43 PM, Scott Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nope!!! jon is a complete ASSHOLE! If YAFF happens it is jon's fault!
Put the responsibility where it belongs... on jon. It's him that keeps
creating these commotions needlessly.
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html
p.s.
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From: Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:08 PM
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on 12/10/01 4:43 PM, Scott Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nope!!! jon is a complete ASSHOLE! If YAFF happens it is jon's
on 12/10/01 6:14 PM, Scott Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You also know that I haven't contributed to the Jakarta project in close to
three years now because you insulted me one too many times.
Lame excuse. Life is full of people you may not like. If you use that as
your excuse for not
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From: Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lloyd wrote:
Wow. It would be really great if you wrote an email that made some
logical
Having lurked on this list for awhile, I'd say it would be great if you
could get through one e-mail exchange without being an
Wow. It would be really great if you wrote an email that made some logical
sense.
-jon
on 12/9/01 3:57 AM, Frans Thamura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear All,,
Do you know where the list for comment the apache.org web site..
Is there a team that responsible for managing the projects of
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