Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Dale
et's just not overreact just yet.  The devs has rolled back to a safe, safer, version.  Let time and more info sort this out. If it is needed, xz will go away, which shouldn't come as a surprise.  I'm sure the person who did this will never get that trust back.  Long term, this is going to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Dale
provide a workaround until a solution is found. Gentoo has some awesome devs. Someone will find a solution. I notice that it has already been changed in the tree to a version that does not have the malicious code. That alone should be a solution until a new plan is made. While I'm a little concerned and hope for a proper solution, I'm not to worried. I certainly don't think we should overreact this early. Give the devs and upstream time to work this out. Just a users opinion. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-16 Thread Dale
Sam James wrote: > Oskari Pirhonen writes: > >> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] >> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 03:10:51 -0500, Dale wrote: >>> Andrew Ammerlaan wrote: >>>> And then another thing, how is it possible that so many people missed >>>> th

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-13 Thread Dale
ho did, could there have been a glitch and it didn't show for some weird reason?  Has someone who understands the code checked to see if there was some typo that made it not show for most users?  I do think this is worth looking into.  It just seems odd.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-13 Thread Dale
Alexe Stefan wrote: > On 9/13/23, Dale wrote: >> Alexe Stefan wrote: >>> While my posts may be a little bit inflammatory, no one pointed out >>> where I'm wrong. >>> I don't hate gentoo, but I don't want choice to be taken away from users. >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-13 Thread Dale
and and ebuilds has improved a LOT.  I still wish the error output was more friendly but hey, at least there is a whole lot less of it.  :-D  Let's deal with what is in front of us.  Thanks again to the devs.  Dale :-)  :-)  I'm going back to my hole now. 

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Dale
in case it masks or prevents something from being installed.  I already checked mine. My vote, give it time.  If someone steps up, great.  If not, we just have to switch to udev and move on.  Debating it even more is unlikely to change anything and may even send some running away.  I just wish we knew just how many people actually used eudev.  Based on this thread, I know of 2.  I know one of them can't code.  That's me!!  ;-)  My $0.02 worth.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-11 Thread Dale
no one wants to take it.  Like others, I use it but didn't know it wasn't maintained anymore.  I hope someone will step up but if not, looks like we have to use udev.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] making rust-bin ordered first in virtual/rust

2022-01-17 Thread Dale
uide so new users are aware of this, provided it isn't already mentioned.  Gentoo is known for compiling from sources.  Defaulting to a package that is a binary but available as a package from source that requires compiling, that would be unexpected.  Just my $0.02 worth, as a user.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] check-reqs.eclass: clamp MAKEOPTS for memory/RAM usage

2022-01-05 Thread Dale
t, I'm not a coder so no idea but I know there are some awesome coders here who may can find a way.  If that idea is even something that could be done.  Since I rarely post here, keep up the great work.  :-D Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] portage.output: Replace darkblue colors with teal

2021-12-04 Thread Dale
> As a user, I like the new color.  I to use a black background and the dark blue is hard to see.  I've also had to either copy and paste elsewhere or change the default color of Konsole.  I might add, every console, the ctrl+alt+F1 console, that I have ever seen is also black.  As a user, +1 for the change.  If it is OK, +10.  Dale :-)  :_) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last-rites: app-admin/lastpass-cli

2021-03-14 Thread Dale
y be worth mentioning somewhere that you can export from Lastpass and import to Bitwarden and not lose any passwords.  My switching took about 5 minutes, some of which is downloading the sources and add-ons.  Thought it worth a mention. Dale :-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Codec project

2020-06-11 Thread Dale
a user, how about media?  Multimedia?  Or would those interfere with other packages? I might add, regardless of name, will it be active enough to keep it alive or will it go the same as the last?  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] x11-base/xorg-server: No longer enabling suid by default.

2020-05-26 Thread Dale
notice about the change.  One that is easily seen since it can cause problems.  In the middle of typing, I made the change and ran into no problems so far. I restarted the GUI and logged in just fine. Just a users perspective.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning up the installation handbook (Legacy boot / MBR / ...)

2020-05-02 Thread Dale
My system is not to old and would need legacy as a option as well.  I actually picked one that didn't do EFI and such.  I'd be fine with a link to another page tho.  It may make it easier for everyone else while those of us with legacy can still get to the info.  Users point of view. Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-25 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > Hi Dale, > > I would like to call your attention to a couple of things in my message. > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 01:40:10PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> William Hubbs wrote: > *snip* > >>> I want to hear from people who have / and /us

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-25 Thread Dale
oned either.  At some point, having separate partitions won't be easy with or without a init thingy.  I can't easily resize / without reworking the whole thing. Just my point of view on why I don't like the thing and wish I didn't have to have one.  Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: Ancient x11-drivers/*

2017-11-24 Thread Dale
ers/xf86-input-evdev: kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.11.3 (mouse ? x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev) x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.19 (input_devices_evdev ? x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev)  * These packages depend on x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa: x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.19 (video_cards_vesa ? x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa) root@fireball / # What will change without it, not sure.  :/ Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Providing a `service` scripts that speaks OpenRC and systemd

2017-09-28 Thread Dale
r as I can tell, nothing came of it.  https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/9bd54475fc23b9c265984c5a91129710  Hope that link works, if not, this is the subject of the discussion.  "[openrc] [systemd] make `service` common for both OpenRC and SystemD (like Debian/Ubuntu/whatever did)" It has a few replies. Dale :-)  :-)  * *

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Sphinx really depends on PYTHON_COMPAT/PYTHON_USEDEP for `dev-python/*` ebuilds?

2017-05-12 Thread Dale
ing to get something to work to only find out that the way things are set up has changed and no longer applies to what I have installed. Having the docs included when available should be required. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org

2017-02-27 Thread Dale
Christophe Farges wrote: > Not quite there. List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org> Send a empty email TO that address not with it in the subject line. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc 0.22 updates (second draft)

2016-09-26 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:27:18PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> William Hubbs wrote: >> >> "then overridden bby configuration stored in" >> >> should be >> >> "then overridden by configuration stored in" >

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc 0.22 updates (second draft)

2016-09-26 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: "then overridden bby configuration stored in" should be "then overridden by configuration stored in" Minor typo or sticky keyboard. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project

2016-06-08 Thread Dale
ld be done, then users who don't use it won't be bothered by it but users who do will get the news announcement about its future. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] please remove me off your mailing list

2016-05-23 Thread Dale
Kent Fredric wrote: > On 24 May 2016 at 08:08, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Nope. It doesn't work that way. Try this: >> >> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org> >> >> Send a empty email to that and I think you ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] please remove me off your mailing list

2016-05-23 Thread Dale
Tyler Pohl wrote: > tylerap...@gmail.com <mailto:tylerap...@gmail.com> > > Thanks, > -- > Tyler Pohl Nope. It doesn't work that way. Try this: List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org> Send a empty email to that and I think you have to confirm. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider

2016-02-09 Thread Dale
abled systemd for a package. Once that was found and removed, the switch was like it should be. Unmerge udev and emerge eudev. Back to my hole. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider

2016-02-08 Thread Dale
t. >>> >> just pile the pressure on :) > +1 > I use eudev on all setups (both home and work) for years now. > The experience is yummy. > > Best regards, > Andrew Savchenko +1 As a lowly user, I switched very shortly after eudev was started. I think it was like the second or third release. So far, I've not seen any problems. It just works. One thing about Gentoo, for those who don't want eudev, they can always select another tool. Back to my hole. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item: GRUB security update

2015-12-19 Thread Dale
only time I read a blog is if it is linked to here or on -user. Other than that, rarely if ever. All things considered, if it isn't a news item or something I follow on this list, I may never know about it. I really depend on the news items. Just keep the noise down or folks will start to ignore them too, although y'all are good at it only telling us about things that affect us. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-03 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> That is why a link was posted for me to use github instead. I >> do realize and understand that git and github are two different things >> but it seems they can work tog

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Then perhaps all this should have been worked out BEFORE switching to >> github? > We didn't switch to github. Then why are people saying to use git to look at the logs? I don't w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Dale
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600 > Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Then perhaps all this should have been worked out BEFORE s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Dale
hasufell wrote: > On 11/02/2015 10:54 PM, Dale wrote: >> Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600 >>> Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Rich Freeman wrote: >>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale <rdalek

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Dale
Matt Turner wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> hasufell wrote: >>> On 11/02/2015 10:54 PM, Dale wrote: >>>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600 >>>>> Dale <r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I thought Gentoo was not depending on git/github either. > Take 5min and read the wikipedia articles on both git and github, please. > > Gentoo is not going to depend on githu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I thought Gentoo was not depending on git/github either. > Take 5min and read the wikipedia articles on both git and github, please. > > Gentoo is not going to depend on githu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-01 Thread Dale
the you need to figure out a way to fix it yourself comment. One thing about being around so long, when you see that comment, you may as well kiss it good bye. That's code for we aren't going to fix it, you figure out a way for yourself. It's rare that anything gets fixed after that. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] drop iputils from @system (i.e. ping)

2015-10-15 Thread Dale
us it is tiny. > > A lot of hosts now block ICMP requests but it's just habit for many to type > `ping google.com` or similar to test when they suspect their internet is down. > > Andrew > +1 I do this all the time myself. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] tcltk herd empty

2015-10-04 Thread Dale
Joshua Kinard wrote: > On 10/02/2015 08:44, Dale wrote: >> Michał Górny wrote: >>> Dnia 2015-10-02, o godz. 03:38:16 >>> Daniel Campbell <z...@gentoo.org> napisał(a): >>> >>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>>> Hash: SHA2

Re: [gentoo-dev] tcltk herd empty

2015-10-02 Thread Dale
i-electronics/pcb-20140316:0 [IP-] [ ] virtual/python-imaging-2:0 root@fireball / # equery h tcl * Searching for USE flag tcl ... [IP-] [ ] dev-db/sqlite-3.8.10.2:3 [IP-] [ ] media-gfx/graphviz-2.26.3-r4:0 [IP-] [ ] net-analyzer/rrdtool-1.5.4:0 [IP-] [ ] net-im/pidgin-2.10.11:0 [IP-] [ ] sys-libs/db-4.8.30-r2:4.8 root@fireball / # Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: USE="gui"

2015-09-11 Thread Dale
; +1 If there is not some way to disable/enable things, there is little point is using Gentoo. Actually, Gentoo loses something huge that makes Gentoo different. Besides, how would you tell a package how and what to compile without USE flags?? Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

2015-09-08 Thread Dale
this done for well . . . ages now. Even if there was another year of waiting, there would still have been a few bumps/issues to work out. Just keep up the good work and thanks for all you do. I been bumping around Gentoo for over a decade now. It doesn't get any better. Dale :-) :-) Robin H

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

2015-09-07 Thread Dale
Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 09/06/2015 05:10 PM, Dale wrote: > > Robin H. Johnson wrote: > >> The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or > >> removed from the tree, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC. > >> > >> Removals:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

2015-09-06 Thread Dale
ntoo.org > GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85 U. You sure? Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Excessive rsync time after git migration

2015-08-15 Thread Dale
I'm syncing). I have synced a few times since the change and each time, it takes a lot longer to sync. You are not the only one that has noticed this. No clue as to why or how to fix tho. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Dale
know if we need to change something. :-) Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] useflag policies

2015-08-03 Thread Dale
took your point wrong, my apologies. Lowly user. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] A question to Russian Gentoo Developers Community about import software substitution

2015-07-08 Thread Dale
Tyler Pohl wrote: How can I unsucribe from this mailing list https://gentoo.org/get-involved/mailing-lists/instructions.html Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item review: SquashDelta syncing support

2015-05-17 Thread Dale
and unless one reads the man page, one has no clue. Of course, my wish is not limited to portage's new features. Other new Gentoo things would be nice too. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2014-07-20 23h59 UTC

2014-07-21 Thread Dale
Diamond wrote: On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:25:02 + Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: Removals: net-misc/curl2014-07-15 09:29:56 blueness Is this a joke? Isn't curl as basic package as wget? Look under additions. It's there. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: news item for upower

2014-06-04 Thread Dale
and don't do scripting stuff so diggin in the ebuilds doesn't generally help me much either. Just a users point of view. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-13 Thread Dale
-in replacement, or do I have to do some thinking when replacing vixie-cron? It should be a drop-in. The only change to make would be to remove vixie-cron and add cronie to the default runlevel. I switched my system and that is all I had to do. I think drop-in is a good term. ;-) Dale

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-04 Thread Dale
when I have something acting odd and can't put my finger on the issue. Sometimes, that fixes it, sometimes not. Again, most of this comes from experience. The handbook explains it then the user figures it out from there. My $0.02 worth. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-04 Thread Dale
Tom Wijsman wrote: On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:06:52 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: But after a person has used Gentoo a while, they figure out what process leads to the most stable update process. Do they? What do you consider a stable update process? I consider it stable when things

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-04 Thread Dale
Tom Wijsman wrote: On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:02:28 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: You are right, it does require prior knowledge and as a user gets that knowledge, they likely end up where Alan, Duncan and myself are. That would be emerge -uaDN world. And from there you can continue

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-16 Thread Dale
to that to now. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-16 Thread Dale
a backup myself, just in case. Generally, a successful reboot is a good sign that the configs are working. Going to look into this but the home page doesn't really show me much, yet. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted

Re: [gentoo-dev] revbumping ebuilds after USE dependency changes

2013-07-25 Thread Dale
on this for a few days now. I'm almost bald from all the hair pulling. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Switchup-mode and boottime selector? Was: eselect init

2013-05-30 Thread Dale
provide it to clear up the matter. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Dale
trouble or another. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Dale
not needing the root mount line. If this is a change, someone needs to tell the users, even us old timers. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: new qt category

2013-01-20 Thread Dale
all one at a time too. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: new qt category

2013-01-20 Thread Dale
Ben de Groot wrote: On 20 January 2013 21:35, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Same here. I have had to re-emerge qt packages several times myself. It seems that when I do, I have to do them all one at a time too. In which case you're better off with something like: emerge -a1 `eix --only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Wordiness

2012-12-21 Thread Dale
. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-21 Thread Dale
,initramfs} , correct? Yes On the Gentoo-user mailing list, that's one of the two common ways of referring to it. The other one is init-thingy . ;) -- Joost I plead guilty on starting this one. It was I. Joost, point your fingers at me. It's OK. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-21 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday, December 21, 2012 08:52:00 AM Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday, December 21, 2012 08:51:09 AM Ian Stakenvicius wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 21/12/12 03:10 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: An init* needs to be kept in sync

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-20 Thread Dale
shouldn't ever be typing that path in... I was thinking tab completion myself. Just hit a couple letters and hit tab. That tab key types much faster and more accurately than I can. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you

Re: [gentoo-dev] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Dale
luck and success. Success comes in many forms, so I won't try to predict exactly what that means. Suffice to say, we will all recognise it when we see it. +1 and I'm looking forward to using it too. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-01 Thread Dale
. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-01 Thread Dale
am a 3 year old crossing the road. If a person needs that hand holding, maybe Gentoo is not for them. There are plenty of distros that hold your hand while you cross the road. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Dale
wbrana wrote: Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations Donate to support our development efforts. Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain advertisements. My questions are this: Does Gentoo need more money? Is it in need of more funds to support itself? Dale

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to raise money for Gentoo

2012-09-27 Thread Dale
Alec Warner wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: wbrana wrote: Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations Donate to support our development efforts. Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain advertisements. My questions are this: Does

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-07 Thread Dale
like the way things are going, can he write code and be left in peace to do so? Maybe have a little bit of support while he is doing it? Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile)

2012-07-24 Thread Dale
of other users. I would MUCH rather see a message sent out that doesn't apply to me than to not see one that should have been sent out but wasn't. Just a users opinion and expectations. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile)

2012-07-24 Thread Dale
a heads-up before it breaks. Rich +1 I might also add, I printed the manual years ago. I rarely look at the online version. User opinion. Back to eating my apple pie. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-17 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: This is not quite correct. The initramfs is required because of [1]. William Where is [1]? Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge

2012-07-17 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 06:13:06PM -0500, Dale wrote: William Hubbs wrote: This is not quite correct. The initramfs is required because of [1]. William Where is [1]? [1] http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken We have a way around

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UEFI secure boot and Gentoo

2012-06-17 Thread Dale
$ in any shape, form or fashion. Period. Thing is, they will likely try to make it so you can't disable it eventually. Some politician will try to make it a law if nothing else. After all, politicians are clueless anyway. Reminds me of chickens and it raining. :/ Dale :-) :-) -- I am

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-16 Thread Dale
emerged something but then want to add it to the world file, just add the -n option too. That keeps the world file clean and I can test things before adding anything to the world file. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-05-05 Thread Dale
the possibility that the user may miss the change since they are not expecting it. I would expect it when I was changing profiles but not so much just coming out of the blue. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-05-05 Thread Dale
Michael Weber wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/05/2012 09:55 PM, Dale wrote: Not to mention, you add the possibility that the user may miss the change since they are not expecting it. I would expect it when I was changing profiles but not so much just coming

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-05-05 Thread Dale
Ben wrote: On 6 May 2012 08:29, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I mentioned this once a long time ago. We expect things to stay the same unless we do something to change them. If things change without us doing the change, we tend to freak out a bit. We don't need any freaking out

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-04 Thread Dale
apps open. I use about 1.5Gbs when my desktop is in normal use. Swappiness is set to 20. In other words, only use swap when it is getting deep. It was using half my swap so it must have been pretty deep. So, even dbus can have a bad day at times. Sure wish I knew what caused it tho. Dale

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-28 Thread Dale
, Gentoo is almost endless in options. Back to my hole. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-28 Thread Dale
changing files and CAN get fragmented a lot, this solves a lot of issues since a lot of things in /var are in the same boat. A user could use a file system that is better at this sort of thing and have only one partition to handle it all. Back to my hole. Twice now. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-28 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: Dale posted on Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:35:40 -0500 as excerpted: Joshua Saddler wrote: Agreed, tho ACTUALLY having the documentation available, AND LINKING to it in the handbook (For an in-depth discussion, read...), would be a good thing. Well, way back when I first

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-28 Thread Dale
accidentally do an emerge something without it mounted. Having portage decide that it should automatically start downloading a new tree directly onto the filesystem containing the mountpoint is *NOT* ideal! +1 Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
the initramfs doesn't work. Rich +1 Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n

Re: [gentoo-dev] About masking net-misc/mDNSResponder for removal

2012-02-13 Thread Dale
to break something. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The following USE changes are necessary to proceed - Why?

2012-02-10 Thread Dale
=proj/portage.git;a=commit;h=2d08e6c4520556e5acc0055cdb3d68028eed3243 wOOt! Yea, he's getting quicker all the time. I'm scared to even *THINK* of something new now. :/ Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-21 Thread Dale
Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:20:03 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:38:26 -0600 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100 Enrico Weigeltweig...@metux.de wrote: * Micha

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-21 Thread Dale
Michał Górny wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:28:54 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:20:03 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:38:26 -0600 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michał Górny wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-21 Thread Dale
Michał Górny wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:34:39 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michał Górny wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:28:54 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:20:03 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michał Górny wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-21 Thread Dale
Zac Medico wrote: On 01/21/2012 01:34 PM, Dale wrote: Michał Górny wrote: It's funny how I never needed one before either but now things are being broken. It's not LVM that is breaking it either. I wouldn't need the initramfs even if It was on a regular partition until the recent so called

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-libs/glibc: glibc-2.14.1-r2.ebuild glibc-2.12.2.ebuild glibc-9999.ebuild glibc-2.15.ebuild glibc-2.10.1-r1.ebuild glibc-2.14.1-r1.ebuild

2012-01-18 Thread Dale
not complaining mind you. It's just a wish. I'm with Duncan tho. It's cold right now. I can't get folding to download a unit and I need some HEAT. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-17 Thread Dale
is not anywhere close to 80Kbs, or maybe my calculator is broken. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-17 Thread Dale
-3.2.0-r1.img root@fireball / # That's using the dracut tool. Somehow, over 50Mbs is not anywhere close to 80Kbs, or maybe my calculator is broken. Your calculator is off by a power of 10. It is. Still, 5Mbs is a lot larger than 80Kbs. Thanks for the correction. Dale :-) :-) -- I am

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-17 Thread Dale
larger and it still adds one more thing to break. I really wish someone would get a better plan. I think I see a garbage dump ahead with lots of Linux distros headed that way. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-11 Thread Dale
hack category to? Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-11 Thread Dale
Alec Warner wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Michał Górnymgo...@gentoo.org wrote: It is a hack. Your opinion is noted, but that doesn't make better or worse than other folks ideas. -A -- Best regards, Michał Górny I agree. It doesn't break things that was working either. Dale

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