Richard Yao posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:35:22 -0500 as excerpted:
Having a builtin is a good idea, but the implementation as a mandatory
dependency on kmod is not. The plan is to reintroduce it as an
optional dependency, so that distributions (and Gentoo users) that do
not want it can avoid
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 02:54:38AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
On 05/09/2012 06:36 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:51:37PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
I foresee a new udev fork then.
Please feel free to do so, the code has been open since the first day I
created it.
On 11/18/2012 03:08 AM, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 02:54:38AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
On 05/09/2012 06:36 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:51:37PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
I foresee a new udev fork then.
Please feel free to do so, the code has been open since
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 03:10:08AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
You are the one claiming that this is our official fork. None of us are.
It's on the Gentoo github site, and it has the Gentoo Foundation
copyright all over all of the files in one of the branches, reviewed by
you.
I think I would be
On 18/11/2012 00:08, Greg KH wrote:
But if this fork is now the official Gentoo fork, owned by the Gentoo
Foundation, and it's the way forward that Gentoo the distro is going to
take with regards to how the boot process works on the system, then I
have something to say about it, as it affects
On 11/18/2012 03:19 AM, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 03:10:08AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
You are the one claiming that this is our official fork. None of us are.
It's on the Gentoo github site, and it has the Gentoo Foundation
copyright all over all of the files in one of the
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:19:21AM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 03:10:08AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
You are the one claiming that this is our official fork. None of us are.
It's on the Gentoo github site, and it has the Gentoo Foundation
copyright all over all of the files
El dom, 18-11-2012 a las 00:27 -0800, Greg KH escribió:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:19:21AM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 03:10:08AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
You are the one claiming that this is our official fork. None of us are.
It's on the Gentoo github site, and it
On 18/11/12 10:21, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 18/11/2012 00:08, Greg KH wrote:
But if this fork is now the official Gentoo fork, owned by the Gentoo
Foundation, and it's the way forward that Gentoo the distro is going to
take with regards to how the boot process works on the system, then I
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
Richard Yao posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 00:35:22 -0500 as excerpted:
Having a builtin is a good idea, but the implementation as a mandatory
dependency on kmod is not. The plan is to reintroduce it as an
optional dependency,
On 18/11/12 07:19, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:00:52AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
Having a builtin is a good idea, but the implementation as a mandatory
dependency on kmod is not. The plan is to reintroduce it as an optional
dependency, so that distributions (and Gentoo users) that
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
I understand the bizarre need of some people to want to build the udev
binary without the build-time dependencies that systemd requires, but
surely that is a set of simple Makefile patches, right? And is
something that small
As talked with Dagger via mail, feel free to get it
Thanks
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El dom, 18-11-2012 a las 11:13 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió:
On 18/11/12 07:19, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:00:52AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
Having a builtin is a good idea, but the implementation as a mandatory
dependency on kmod is not. The plan is to reintroduce it as
apache team is currently composed by nelchael (that is inactive since
May 2012) and trapni (that is not taking care of that packages)
If you are interested please join. If it's still inactive in next week,
I will assign apache bugs to maintainer-needed (I am still unsure about
if, in that case,
# Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org (18 Nov 2012)
# Dead upstream, replaced by gitolite
dev-vcs/gitosis
dev-vcs/gitosis-gentoo
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Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee Infrastructure Lead
E-Mail : robb...@gentoo.org
GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85
As Trapni is not taking care of them at all, we (retirement team)
decided to drop him from their maintainership to reflect reality and
give others the opportunity to know they need a maintainer and get them
if possible:
media-sound/teamspeak-server-bin - assigned not to proxy-maint as looks
some
On 11/18/2012 04:48 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El dom, 18-11-2012 a las 11:13 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió:
On 18/11/12 07:19, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:00:52AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
Having a builtin is a good idea, but the implementation as a mandatory
dependency on kmod
By the way, Diego, what is you current point of view on Gentoo default
init system?
i.e., what do you personally prefer to see as default init here: SystemD
or OpenRC?
[Just asking because all you angry answers to some devs make me think
that you're on SysD side, when tons of Gentoo users and
Over the years, I've come to be the maintainer a huge number of
packages (~300 or so, and I just gave up ~100 of those back to relevant
herds). Many of them are from inheriting packages when other developers
have retired - the upstream may also be dead, but there is nothing that
supersedes the
Matt Turner schrieb:
Then udev switched to kmod as a build-time dep. I could no longer
package.provide kmod as I had module-init-tools, because it was required
to /build/ udev. For no valid reason on my system. Like any unnecessary
feature that can be used to load an exploit, it's worse
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
apache team is currently composed by nelchael (that is inactive since
May 2012) and trapni (that is not taking care of that packages)
If you are interested please join. If it's still inactive in next week,
I will assign
El lun, 29-10-2012 a las 12:16 +, Markos Chandras escribió:
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org
wrote:
On 28/10/12 14:26, Pacho Ramos wrote:
Hello
I would like to know about mobile team status and also show that this
team has important bugs
app-admin/longrun
app-laptop/fnfx
app-laptop/hdapsd
app-laptop/ibam
app-laptop/laptop-mode-tools
app-laptop/radeontool
app-laptop/spicctrl
app-laptop/tp_smapi
app-laptop/tpb
app-misc/gpsdrive
app-mobilephone/obex-data-server
media-libs/sbc
net-misc/xsupplicant
net-wireless/acx-firmware
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On 18.11.2012 06:00, Richard Yao wrote:
but we are doing AGILE development, so long term goals have not
been well defined.
[...]
With that said, Linux distributions are victims of people
continually trying to reinvent the wheel with no formal
Wow, that's some kind of thread you started... :) I'll respond in
general to a bunch of stuff on this list by topic.
COUNCIL MEETING
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
So, that's a nice summary, but, what is the end result here?
Speaking as somebody who was
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov m...@mva.name
wrote:
So, I really hope, that Gentoo will not obey RedHat's will and will not
force SystemD as default init system, and not drop pretty OpenRC to
trash. And I hope, that ryao's eudev will be most used (if not default)
On 18.11.2012 08:57, Greg KH wrote:
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:02:19PM -0800, Alec Warner wrote:
1) systemd-udev will require systemd. Stated by the systemd
maintainers themselves as a thing they want to do in the future. Some
users don't want to use systemd. We could go into detail as to why;
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM, justin j...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 16/11/12 09:48, Samuli Suominen wrote:
does this mean it puts the binary-only package, nvidia-cg-toolkit, to
the default search path when you call the linker (compiler)?
please don't do that, it is counterproductive with the
On 11/18/2012 03:08 PM, Peter Alfredsen wrote:
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM, justin j...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 16/11/12 09:48, Samuli Suominen wrote:
does this mean it puts the binary-only package, nvidia-cg-toolkit, to
the default search path when you call the linker (compiler)?
please
On 18/11/12 16:11, hasufell wrote:
On 11/18/2012 03:08 PM, Peter Alfredsen wrote:
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM, justin j...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 16/11/12 09:48, Samuli Suominen wrote:
does this mean it puts the binary-only package, nvidia-cg-toolkit, to
the default search path when you
On 18/11/2012 03:11, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote:
[Just asking because all you angry answers to some devs make me think
that you're on SysD side, when tons of Gentoo users and Gentoo devs are
on non-SysD-related udev side.]
The fact you're asking means you really haven't been following
On 18/11/12 17:04, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 18/11/2012 03:11, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote:
[Just asking because all you angry answers to some devs make me think
that you're on SysD side, when tons of Gentoo users and Gentoo devs are
on non-SysD-related udev side.]
The fact you're
On 18-11-2012 17:16:18 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote:
Nobody has ever provided a valid reason for using sep. /usr in the ML
either.
No need for a reason.
It is a fact that it is in use *right now*.
(Existing systems/installs that are not to be phased out anywhere near
soon.)
Fabian
--
On 18/11/2012 07:16, Samuli Suominen wrote:
I'm still happy enough with building udev out from systemd tree and
letting sep. /usr consept from 90s to finally die in favour of
simplifying the system.
The BIOSes have been upgraded last century to support booting from
larger partitions, the
To be honest, in my opinion, «killing of separate /usr» can reasonable
be continued by moving all it's content to / (/usr/bin - /bin, /usr/lib
- lib, and so on) in despite of all objections, as it was invented just
because of disk space exhaustion.
18.11.2012 22:16, Samuli Suominen пишет:
On
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:14:48 +0100 as
excerpted:
Matt Turner schrieb:
Then udev switched to kmod as a build-time dep. I could no longer
package.provide kmod as I had module-init-tools, because it was
required to /build/ udev. For no valid reason on my
On 18/11/2012 07:34, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote:
To be honest, in my opinion, «killing of separate /usr» can reasonable
be continued by moving all it's content to / (/usr/bin - /bin, /usr/lib
- lib, and so on) in despite of all objections, as it was invented just
because of disk space
The fact you're asking means you really haven't been following anything
I've been doing lately.
Nope ;) I knew that, but as far as I read some of your emails, it was
thoughts that you protect udev+sysD integration and followed udev's
functionality downgrade.
So your whole rant picking up on
On 18/11/2012 07:43, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote:
And, by the way, I doubt, that people laugh about eudev (previously
named udev-ng) creation. Mostly they just can't understand why gentoo
devs created third udev's fork, where it was already done (and
maintained) fork for LFS (somewhere on
On 11/18/2012 04:34 PM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote:
To be honest, in my opinion, «killing of separate /usr» can reasonable
be continued by moving all it's content to / (/usr/bin - /bin, /usr/lib
- lib, and so on) in despite of all objections, as it was invented just
because of disk space
On 18-11-2012 07:42:40 -0800, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
Also, I doubt anybody would argue that it's not commutative (move to
/usr, move to /) — it's just pragmatic, most stuff uses /usr anyway as
base, so the move / - /usr is infinitely less painful than /usr - /.
You end up with a symlink
On 18-11-2012 07:47:22 -0800, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 18/11/2012 07:43, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote:
And, by the way, I doubt, that people laugh about eudev (previously
named udev-ng) creation. Mostly they just can't understand why gentoo
devs created third udev's fork, where it
On 11/18/2012 04:47 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
But yes, many more can't understand that... and neither do I.
Then would be nice if everybody shuts up, let people play with their
toys and if something useful happens evaluate the result.
According to the people that asked me to help the whole
On 18/11/2012 07:54, Fabian Groffen wrote:
It's your choice to participate on those social platforms. Please don't
make it our problem. It doesn't add anything useful to this discussion.
It adds. Because, while I don't know about you, I rely on Gentoo on my
job. And many others do, too.
And
On 18/11/2012 03:11, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
net-libs/libmonetra
Maybe time to get rid of this one?
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341721
--
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flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Kacper Kowalik xarthis...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 18.11.2012 08:57, Greg KH wrote:
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:02:19PM -0800, Alec Warner wrote:
1) systemd-udev will require systemd. Stated by the systemd
maintainers themselves as a thing they want to do in the
It depends on who is actually laughing I'd say.
just my 0.01c.
--
Fabio Erculiani
El 18/11/12 04:39, Greg KH escribió:
Anyway, I now see a _very_ dangerous commit in the Copyright branch
that better not get merged into the tree, as it's wrong, and illegal
under all countries that follow the normal body of Copyright Law. It
should be removed right now before someone gets
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Rafael Goncalves Martins
rafaelmart...@gentoo.org wrote:
If these organizations aren't governed by Gentoo they should have some
disclaimers, saying that the projects hosted there aren't sponsored by
Gentoo, but this udev-ng/eudev/whatever thing does the
Rich Freeman posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:26:17 -0500 as excerpted:
I'm sure all of the options will be offered as options for as long as
people care to take care of them. With the number of anti-systemd posts
on -dev I don't see openrc going away anytime soon.
I'm sure the default will
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Rafael Goncalves Martins
rafaelmart...@gentoo.org wrote:
If these organizations aren't governed by Gentoo they should have some
disclaimers, saying that the projects hosted there aren't
Hey guys,
Just read through this entire thread, and one concern still rings loud
and clear -- what is the purpose of this fork?
The various responses I've read so far are something like:
- Because Linus yelled a lot when udev/Kay broke firmware loading.
Except both Linus and the udev people
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:48:33AM +0100, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El dom, 18-11-2012 a las 11:13 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió:
On 18/11/12 07:19, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:00:52AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
Having a builtin is a good idea, but the implementation as a
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Rafael Goncalves Martins
rafaelmart...@gentoo.org wrote:
Yeah, but I think that there's a big difference about any developer
being allowed to create a project under the gentoo umbrella and create
a project and claim it as Gentoo sponsored without any review of
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Rafael Goncalves Martins
rafaelmart...@gentoo.org wrote:
Yeah, but I think that there's a big difference about any developer
being allowed to create a project under the gentoo umbrella and
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:22 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
So here is the question I'll pose. Is it worth all of that extra
work for us to support separate /usr correctly, or should we just tell
everyone to start using initramfs or, if they don't want to use
initramfs and they
Duncan wrote:
kmod itself is trivial in size time and space requirements, but it's
the principle as much as anything, and in the case of an unneeded
module loader there's an additional security concern as well
I'm afraid this is flawed. If you want to hinder modules from being
loaded then you
Le dimanche 18 novembre 2012 à 11:11 +, Robin H. Johnson a écrit :
net-nds/nsscache
sys-auth/nss_ldap
If nobody else want them and I don't forget about them, I'll take care
of these.
--
Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org
Gentoo
On Sun, 2012-11-18 at 17:19 +, Duncan wrote:
Diego Elio Pettenò posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:47:22 -0800 as excerpted:
On 18/11/2012 07:43, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote:
And, by the way, I doubt, that people laugh about eudev (previously
named udev-ng) creation. Mostly they just
Rich Freeman wrote:
I think that there's a big difference about any developer
being allowed to create a project under the gentoo umbrella and
create a project and claim it as Gentoo sponsored without any
review of the council. I agree that it can exists in the Github
account, or even in
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Rafael Goncalves Martins
rafaelmart...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Rafael Goncalves Martins
rafaelmart...@gentoo.org wrote:
Yeah, but I think that there's a big
Hi list,
gstreamer-1 has been around for some time now and it is needed for gnome
3.6 to enter the tree. Since gstreamer devs have been a bit busy irl, a
few guys from gnome herd decided to take a look at it and try to bump
everything. I had an itch to scratch wrt current eclass writing so I
Peter Stuge posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:00:59 +0100 as excerpted:
Forget about the loader. Your knob is in a different configuration,
specifically CONFIG_MODULES=n in the kernel.
Just to note now that the specific topic has come up, yes, I am aware of
and have that kernel option set to
Gilles Dartiguelongue posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:06:30 +0100 as
excerpted:
It's admittedly a style thing thus pretty much up to the author, purely
bikeshedding in the original sense of the essay's trivial color choice,
but...
# Even though xz-utils are in @system, they must still be added to
On 11/18/2012 2:39 PM, Duncan wrote:
Peter Stuge posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:00:59 +0100 as excerpted:
Forget about the loader. Your knob is in a different configuration,
specifically CONFIG_MODULES=n in the kernel.
Just to note now that the specific topic has come up, yes, I am aware of
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Rafael Goncalves Martins
rafaelmart...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Rafael Goncalves Martins
Hmm, pretty cool! Then I can create a stupid project, put it on gentoo
infra and claim it as being Gentoo sponsored. Good to know, thanks!
Just
app-misc/dailystrips
app-misc/gramps
dev-php/PEAR-PEAR
dev-php/pear
games-misc/fortune-mod-mormon
games-misc/fortune-mod-scriptures
media-libs/libbluray
media-tv/ivtv-utils
media-tv/ivtv
media-video/mplayer-resume
sys-fs/mhddfs
x11-themes/gdm-themes
Some of them are co-maintained but, if you want
Le dimanche 18 novembre 2012 à 20:45 +, Duncan a écrit :
Gilles Dartiguelongue posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:06:30 +0100 as
excerpted:
[...]
But as I said up top, that's (mostly, the pattern matching vs string
matching will occasionally bite if you're not on the lookout for it)
trivial
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
Gilles Dartiguelongue posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:06:30 +0100 as
excerpted:
It's admittedly a style thing thus pretty much up to the author, purely
bikeshedding in the original sense of the essay's trivial color choice,
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 08:11:49AM -0800, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 18/11/2012 03:11, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
net-libs/libmonetra
Maybe time to get rid of this one?
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341721
Gone.
--
Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee Infrastructure
On 11/18/2012 11:59 AM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
All I'm asking is some kind of coherent mission statement.
How can we define a mission statement when we are still in the process
of understanding the codebase, what it does well and what it can do better?
A project announcement should answer
On 11/18/2012 12:37 PM, Rafael Goncalves Martins wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Rafael Goncalves Martins
rafaelmart...@gentoo.org wrote:
Yeah, but I think that there's a big difference about any developer
being
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2012-11-18 23h59 UTC.
Removals:
app-crypt/cryptoapi 2012-11-15 18:15:12
pinkbyte
x11-misc/pnmixer2012-11-17
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 11/18/2012 11:59 AM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
All I'm asking is some kind of coherent mission statement.
How can we define a mission statement when we are still in the process
of understanding the codebase, what it does
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 01:51:14AM -0600, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote
... systemd is a cross-distro project: every major and many, many
minor distros have had people contributing to systemd. last i heard
even two debian devs have commit access to the repo, among many
others. systemd upstream
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:52:22PM -0800, Greg KH wrote
Yes, I know all about the firmware issue with media drivers. It's now
resolved and fixed, in two different ways (the kernel now loads firmware
directly, and on older kernels, udev has fixed the issue.) So that's no
longer an issue for
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 07:06:50AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
COPYRIGHT
I think this issue is best dealt with on the side - it has no bearing
on any of the really contentious points here.
I note that the owners of the copyright on udev have announced to the
world that (emphasis mine):
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 08:50:07PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:52:22PM -0800, Greg KH wrote
Yes, I know all about the firmware issue with media drivers. It's now
resolved and fixed, in two different ways (the kernel now loads firmware
directly, and on older
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 08:13:55PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 01:51:14AM -0600, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote
... systemd is a cross-distro project: every major and many, many
minor distros have had people contributing to systemd. last i heard
even two debian devs
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
True, but removing a copyright line doesn't change the real copyright of
a file, although it is generally considered something that you really
should not do at all (see your local copyright laws/rules for details.)
Agreed that
On 11/18/2012 10:06 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 08:50:07PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
It's a bizarre development model, I know. :)
Works better than Windows' model:
http://moishelettvin.blogspot.com/2006/11/windows-shutdown-crapfest.html
(Okay, old, and I know MS has since
On 18/11/2012 19:38, Joshua Kinard wrote:
Correct me if wrong, but didn't the issue start with udev wanting to put the
PCI ID database/file into /usr/share from /etc? Then kmod was changed to
link against libs in /usr/lib, and then udev made dependent on kmod? I
think that led to a scenario
On 11/18/2012 09:58 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 07:06:50AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
COPYRIGHT
I think this issue is best dealt with on the side - it has no bearing
on any of the really contentious points here.
I note that the owners of the copyright on udev have announced
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:05:05PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
On 11/18/2012 09:58 PM, Greg KH wrote:
an on-topic discussion about copyright thread response from me snipped
We develop open source software in public repositories. A developer
decided it would be helpful to change the software
Gilles Dartiguelongue posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 23:59:44 +0100 as
excerpted:
Anyway if you read all that up and only mailed about this, I guess you
found no problem with the rest, right ?
Yes, but I already admitted to bikeshedding the easy stuff, so I'd
honestly not assign too much review
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 07:42:11PM -0800, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 18/11/2012 19:38, Joshua Kinard wrote:
Correct me if wrong, but didn't the issue start with udev wanting to put the
PCI ID database/file into /usr/share from /etc? Then kmod was changed to
link against libs in /usr/lib,
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:29:35PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
True, but removing a copyright line doesn't change the real copyright of
a file, although it is generally considered something that you really
should not do at
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:21:20PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
On 11/18/2012 11:22 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:05:05PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
On 11/18/2012 09:58 PM, Greg KH wrote:
an on-topic discussion about copyright thread response from me snipped
We develop
On 18/11/2012 20:28, Greg KH wrote:
But note, we are moving that file out of pciutils (and the usb.ids file
out of usbutils) and they will eventually be generated from the udev
package itself, as it holds the master hardware database. But that's a
totally different topic than the one at hand,
On 18 November 2012 16:41, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
media-sound/dbmeasure
I'll take this one, since it's tangentially related to PulseAudio.
Cheers,
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Arun Raghavan
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On 11/18/2012 11:28 PM, Greg KH wrote:
Yes, it was always in /usr/somewhere.
And the pci.ids file came from the pciutils package, not udev.
But note, we are moving that file out of pciutils (and the usb.ids file
out of usbutils) and they will eventually be generated from the udev
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:43:44AM +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote:
On 18 November 2012 16:41, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
media-sound/dbmeasure
I'll take this one, since it's tangentially related to PulseAudio.
Speaking of PA, are you still upstream? If so, can you please
That's probably some topic for gentoo-project ml.
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