Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>> All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs >>> do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't >>> do anything if this is lacking, and you would need a

[gentoo-user] Re: NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> If you don't play games, then definitely get integrated graphics. >> Even if the CPU costs a tiny bit more, it will give you a free empty >> 16x PCIe slot at whatever speed the CPU supports (v5 in this case - >> which is as good as you can get right

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dale wrote: > I still use Nvidia and use nvidia drivers.  I to run into problems > on occasion with drivers and kernels.  When you switched from > Nvidia, what did you switch too? Do you still use drivers you > install or kernel drivers? All in-tree kernel drivers for integrated

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Meik Frischke wrote: > Am 2024-04-17 12:33, schrieb Dale: >> I found a benchmark website that compares the two.  Link below.  It >> claims about 80% faster.  In some ways, twice as fast. Sometimes those >> bench tests don't reflect the real world to well.  Most of them seem to >> test gaming

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 01:18:39PM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: > > > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > > All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs > > > do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > > 2) Lack of support for old hardware when running a newer kernels. > > I used to run into this when running nvidia-drivers. > Gentoo-sources would mark a new kernel stable, but my video board > would not be supported by nvidia-drivers versions that were >

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 14:11:21 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> If what you want is access to all upstream longeterm kernel versions, >> then you should be using sys-kernel/vanilla-sources. > > I was not aware of this package. Excatly what

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/04/2024 10:10, Michael wrote: I am not sure the assumption "... aging hardware possibly can less and less cope with newer and newer kernels" is correct. As already mentioned newer kernels have both security and bug fixes. As long as you stick with stable gentoo-sources you'll have these

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Meik Frischke
Am 2024-04-17 12:33, schrieb Dale: I found a benchmark website that compares the two.  Link below.  It claims about 80% faster.  In some ways, twice as fast. Sometimes those bench tests don't reflect the real world to well.  Most of them seem to test gaming speeds which isn't of much use anyway

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs > > do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't > > do anything if this is lacking, and you would need a dedicated GPU. > > > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Grant, On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 14:11:21 -, you wrote: > ... > If what you want is access to all upstream longeterm kernel versions, > then you should be using sys-kernel/vanilla-sources. I was not aware of this package. Excatly what could come in handy, if everything else fails. Thank

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Wednesday, 2024-04-17 10:10:56 +0100, you wrote: > On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:26:25 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > ... > > > But, to get back to the beginning of this discussion: if there is a > > > risk that my aging hardware possibly can

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > >> ... >> That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" >> kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" >> kernel versions from kernel.org are

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-17, Michael wrote: >> > But, to get back to the beginning of this discussion: if there is a >> > risk that my aging hardware possibly can less and less cope with >> > newer and newer kernels, should I put something like >> > >> >>=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.7.0 >> > >> > into

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale wrote: >> On the AM5 link, I found a mobo that I kinda like. I still wish it had >> more PCIe slots tho. > AM5 has 28 PCIe lanes. Anything above that comes from a switch on the > motherboard. > > 0.1% of the population cares about

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale wrote: > > On the AM5 link, I found a mobo that I kinda like. I still wish it had > more PCIe slots tho. AM5 has 28 PCIe lanes. Anything above that comes from a switch on the motherboard. 0.1% of the population cares about having anything on their

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:37:04 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > > ... > > That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" > > kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" > > kernel versions

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:29:09 BST Eli Schwartz wrote: [Big snip] Never mind. I've solved the problem by removing sci-misc/boinc and its 40-odd dependencies. The machine was only barely capable of running it anyway. -- Regards, Peter.

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Grant, On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > ... > That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" > kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" > kernel versions from kernel.org are available as "stable" in > gentoo-sources. > > It is a

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:04:15AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > >> I've seen some server type mobos that have SAS connectors which gives >> several options.  Some of them tend to have more PCIe slots which some >> regular mobos don't anymore.  Then there is that ECC memory

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:26:25 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Arve, > > > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > >> ... > >> Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily > >> available. > > > > I'm sure I don't

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Arve, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > >> ... >> Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily available. > > I'm sure I don't understand this: According to "https://www.kernel.org/; > kernel 6.6.27 is "longterm",

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Arve, On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > ... > Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily available. I'm sure I don't understand this: According to "https://www.kernel.org/; kernel 6.6.27 is "longterm", but according to "eix" the most recent 6.6.*

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Eli Schwartz
On April 16, 2024 10:44:55 AM EDT, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >This is what I get after this morning's update: > > >Dependency resolution took 16.03 s (backtrack: 0/20). > >[ebuild N ] gui-libs/gtk-4.12.5:4::gentoo USE="X cups gstreamer >introspection wayland (-aqua) -broadway

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Dale wrote: > I've never understood what is supported long term either.  I use > gentoo-sources.  I've never figured out just how to pick a kernel that > is supposed to be stable for the larger version.  In other words, only > security and bug fixes, no new hardware.  Right now,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-16, Arve Barsnes wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok >> wrote: My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS upstream releases. >>> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok > wrote: >>> My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS >>> upstream releases. >> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just >> looking at the available

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-16, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok > wrote: >> > My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS >> > upstream releases. >> >> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just >> looking at the

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
(Rearranged in chronological order...) On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:08:33 BST Waldo Lemmer wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 15:43 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Monday, 15 April 2024 12:19:02 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: --->8 > > I'm still mystified by these Gentoo binary packages. I assume that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Jack
On 4/16/24 7:15 AM, Michael wrote: On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more time than it would if you updated often and added all the time

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Waldo Lemmer
If you add --ask --verbose, Portage should tell you why it's falling back to the source package. Does your emerge command include --getbinpkg, or -g? On Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 15:43 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 15 April 2024 12:19:02 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > [Big snip] >

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:43, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I'm still mystified by these Gentoo binary packages. I assume that they're > generated using the default USE flags in the profile version (whence the need > to > specify it in gentoobinhost.conf). > > So why is portage not fetching webkit-gtk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS > > upstream releases. > > Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just > looking at the available "gentoo-sources" which one is LTS and

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 15 April 2024 12:19:02 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, [Big snip] I'm still mystified by these Gentoo binary packages. I assume that they're generated using the default USE flags in the profile version (whence the need to specify it in gentoobinhost.conf). So why is portage

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 11:15:07 +0100, you wrote: > ... > > But this brings up two related questions: > > > > 1. Why does Gentoo not somehow mark LTS kernels either in the version > >number or in the slot name? This would make it easier to prevent the > >installation of too

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: > >> If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If >> you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more >> time than it would if you updated often and added all the time >> together. As

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: > If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If > you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more > time than it would if you updated often and added all the time > together. As far as I know, if one

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > >> ... >> Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? > Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your > point of saving time which could be better used to successfully

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 10:04:43 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > > ... > > Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? > > Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your > point of saving time which

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > ... > Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your point of saving time which could be better used to successfully unmount the "/home/" partition. I'll

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-15 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:04:15AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >>> The physical connector is called M.2. The dimensions of the “sticks” are >>> given in a number such as 2280, meaning 22 mm wide and 80 mm long. There >>> are >>> different lengths available from 30 to 110

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-15 Thread Waldo Lemmer
Hi Peter, "Profile version" is the correct term here. I don't have the privileges required to edit the Handbook, but as soon as I have the time, I will propose a fix and make sure it gets applied. Thanks for getting back to me. Regards, Waldo On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 16:04 Peter Humphrey wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 15 April 2024 13:24:59 BST Waldo Lemmer wrote: > I'd like to understand your confusion. Where did you get 27 from? >From ref 1, viz: "The architecture and profile targets within the sync-uri value do matter and should align to the respective computer architecture (amd64 in this

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-15 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:04:15AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > The physical connector is called M.2. The dimensions of the “sticks” are > > given in a number such as 2280, meaning 22 mm wide and 80 mm long. There > > are > > different lengths available from 30 to 110 mm. M.2 has different “keys”,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-04-15 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 08:33:20AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > (moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) > […] > We're going on almost 20 years since the Snowden revelations, and back > then the NSA was basically doing intrusion on an industrial scale. Weeaalll,

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-15 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 08:23:27AM -0500 schrieb Dale: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 8:11 AM Dale wrote: My biggest thing right now, finding a mobo with plenty of PCIe slots. They put all this new stuff, wifi and such, but remove things I

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-15 Thread Waldo Lemmer
Hi Peter, I'd like to understand your confusion. Where did you get 27 from? Cheers, Waldo On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 13:25 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 15 April 2024 12:19:02 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > I've decided to follow the instructions in [1] on one of my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-15 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 14 April 2024 19:41:41 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Greetings, > > On Friday, 2024-01-05 18:46:09 +0100, I myself wrote: > > ... > > since a few month or so off and on my laptop fails to resume from hiber- > > nation due to the "dirty bit" being set on the ext4 "/home" partition. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 15 April 2024 12:19:02 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > I've decided to follow the instructions in [1] on one of my machines, which > runs too hot for my comfort on long emerges, but I need some advice, please: > where the wiki gives this [2], I'm setting 'amd64' as the and

[gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, I've decided to follow the instructions in [1] on one of my machines, which runs too hot for my comfort on long emerges, but I need some advice, please: where the wiki gives this [2], I'm setting 'amd64' as the and '27' as the . Then, when I try to emerge a package, I get this: !!!

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-15 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 08:23:27AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 8:11 AM Dale wrote: > >> My biggest thing right now, finding a mobo with plenty of PCIe slots. > >> They put all this new stuff, wifi and such, but remove things I do need, > >> PCIe slots. >

Re: [gentoo-user] merge-usr and lib[ow]crypt*

2024-04-15 Thread Joost Roeleveld
--- Original message --- From: Matthias Hanft To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 10:14:18 +0200 Hi, after updating the kernels to the latest stable version (6.6.21)

[gentoo-user] merge-usr and lib[ow]crypt*

2024-04-15 Thread Matthias Hanft
Hi, after updating the kernels to the latest stable version (6.6.21) and updating the profiles from 17.1 to 23.0, the last update step would be "merge-usr" as described at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Merge-usr in order to have complete up-to-date systems. But my two (nearly identical) systems

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-14 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Greetings, On Friday, 2024-01-05 18:46:09 +0100, I myself wrote: > ... > since a few month or so off and on my laptop fails to resume from hiber- > nation due to the "dirty bit" being set on the ext4 "/home" partition. I was reading this flickering by on the screen, and it wasn't quite cor-

Re: [gentoo-user] How to find out all openrc dependencies?

2024-04-14 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, 14 April 2024 10:24:54 CEST Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 14 April 2024 08:28:07 BST J. Roeleveld wrote: > > > > > > Our systems are certainly different, but I noticed this dependency on my > > > localmount which is missing on yours: > > > > > > # /lib/rc/bin/rc-depend localmount > >

Re: [gentoo-user] How to find out all openrc dependencies?

2024-04-14 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 14 April 2024 08:28:07 BST J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 12:10:31 CEST Michael wrote: > > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 10:48:15 BST J. Roeleveld wrote: > > > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 11:35:10 CEST Michael wrote: > > > > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 06:19:57 BST J.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to find out all openrc dependencies?

2024-04-14 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 12:10:31 CEST Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 10:48:15 BST J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 11:35:10 CEST Michael wrote: > > > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 06:19:57 BST J. Roeleveld wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > For a while I've been

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-13 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 13 April 2024 15:49:27 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 12 April 2024 16:39:12 BST Michael wrote: > > On Friday, 12 April 2024 16:05:46 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Friday, 12 April 2024 14:35:02 BST Michael wrote: > > > > There are GUI front-ends for the above to suit

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 13/04/2024 14:23, Dale wrote: >> I see lots of mobos with those little hard drives on a stick.  I think >> they called NVME or something, may have spelling wrong.  For most >> people, that is likely awesome.  For me, I think I'd be happy with a >> regular SSD.  Given that,

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Wols Lists
On 13/04/2024 14:23, Dale wrote: I see lots of mobos with those little hard drives on a stick.  I think they called NVME or something, may have spelling wrong.  For most people, that is likely awesome.  For me, I think I'd be happy with a regular SSD.  Given that, I'd like them to make a mobo

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 12 April 2024 16:39:12 BST Michael wrote: > On Friday, 12 April 2024 16:05:46 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Friday, 12 April 2024 14:35:02 BST Michael wrote: > > > There are GUI front-ends for the above to suit various desktop and user > > > preferences, some more polished than

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 8:20 AM Dale wrote: >> Right now, I have a three drive setup in a removable cage for the NAS >> box. > If you only need three drives I'm sure you can find cheap used > hardware that will handle that. Odds are it will use way less power > and perform

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 8:11 AM Dale wrote: >> My biggest thing right now, finding a mobo with plenty of PCIe slots. >> They put all this new stuff, wifi and such, but remove things I do need, >> PCIe slots. > PCIe and memory capacity seem to have become the way the >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 8:20 AM Dale wrote: > > Right now, I have a three drive setup in a removable cage for the NAS > box. If you only need three drives I'm sure you can find cheap used hardware that will handle that. Odds are it will use way less power and perform better than whatever you're

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 8:11 AM Dale wrote: > > My biggest thing right now, finding a mobo with plenty of PCIe slots. > They put all this new stuff, wifi and such, but remove things I do need, > PCIe slots. PCIe and memory capacity seem to have become the way the server/workstation and consumer

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 3:58 AM Dale wrote: >> Given the FX-6300 has a higher clocks speed, 3.8GHz versus 3.2GHz for >> the Phenom, I'd think the FX would be a upgrade, quite a good one at >> that. More L2 cache too. Both are 6 cores according to what I found. >> Anyone

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 13 April 2024 12:12:04 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Saturday, 13 April 2024 08:58:50 BST Dale wrote: Howdy, As most likely know, I have a older box I use for backups. The hard drives are encrypted which likes the CPU to have AES

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 3:58 AM Dale wrote: > > Given the FX-6300 has a higher clocks speed, 3.8GHz versus 3.2GHz for > the Phenom, I'd think the FX would be a upgrade, quite a good one at > that. More L2 cache too. Both are 6 cores according to what I found. > Anyone know something I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 13 April 2024 12:12:04 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Saturday, 13 April 2024 08:58:50 BST Dale wrote: > >> Howdy, > >> > >> As most likely know, I have a older box I use for backups. The hard > >> drives are encrypted which likes the CPU to have AES support. The > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 13 April 2024 08:58:50 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> As most likely know, I have a older box I use for backups. The hard >> drives are encrypted which likes the CPU to have AES support. The >> Phenom CPUs don't seam to support AES from what I've seen. The specs

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 13 April 2024 08:58:50 BST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > As most likely know, I have a older box I use for backups. The hard > drives are encrypted which likes the CPU to have AES support. The > Phenom CPUs don't seam to support AES from what I've seen. The specs > for the mobo says

[gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Dale
Howdy, As most likely know, I have a older box I use for backups.  The hard drives are encrypted which likes the CPU to have AES support.  The Phenom CPUs don't seam to support AES from what I've seen.  The specs for the mobo says the mobo does support the FX-6300 CPU tho which has AES support. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-12 Thread Michael
On Friday, 12 April 2024 16:05:46 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 12 April 2024 14:35:02 BST Michael wrote: > > There are GUI front-ends for the above to suit various desktop and user > > preferences, some more polished than others. > > Hm. I haven't found one for iwd yet... There is

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 12 April 2024 14:35:02 BST Michael wrote: > For clarity: > > The iwlwifi is a kernel driver for Intel wireless chips. > > The net-wireless/iw software can be used to manage the wireless association > with an AP if the latter has been configured to offer connections with the >

Re: [gentoo-user] acct-user/man usermod: user 'man' does not exist in /etc/passwd

2024-04-12 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:08:54 BST Dale wrote: > >> I don't recall editing this file ever. From my understanding, commands >> are used to manage that file. I can't say for sure but it's doubtful I >> edited that file. >> >> I can easily do a emerge -ek world if you think

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-12 Thread Michael
On Friday, 12 April 2024 13:51:37 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:56:28 BST Wojciech Kuzyszyn wrote: > > On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 14:23:31 +0100 > > > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Hello list, > > > > > > I want to move my Intel i5 NUC box to a place where Ethernet is not > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:56:28 BST Wojciech Kuzyszyn wrote: > On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 14:23:31 +0100 > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > I want to move my Intel i5 NUC box to a place where Ethernet is not > > available, nor like to become so. That means I have to get WiFi > >

Re: [gentoo-user] acct-user/man usermod: user 'man' does not exist in /etc/passwd

2024-04-11 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:08:54 BST Dale wrote: > I don't recall editing this file ever. From my understanding, commands > are used to manage that file. I can't say for sure but it's doubtful I > edited that file. > > I can easily do a emerge -ek world if you think it would be wise to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:18:51 BST Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:15:52 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:08:35 BST Michael wrote: > > > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:49:18 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > --->8 > > > > > > I decided to establish a

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-11 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:15:52 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:08:35 BST Michael wrote: > > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:49:18 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > --->8 > > > > I decided to establish a firm, clean system to fall back to after > > > messing > > > about with

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:56:28 BST Wojciech Kuzyszyn wrote: > I have never managed to get WiFi working with iwlwifi, but iwd works > great for me. Give it a try! I will - thanks! -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:08:35 BST Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:49:18 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: --->8 > > I decided to establish a firm, clean system to fall back to after messing > > about with the various wifi packages, so I built a fresh system building > > on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-11 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:49:18 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:44:05 BST Paul Sopka wrote: > > On 09.04.24 15:23, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Hello list, > > > > > > I want to move my Intel i5 NUC box to a place where Ethernet is not > > > available, nor like to

Re: [gentoo-user] acct-user/man usermod: user 'man' does not exist in /etc/passwd

2024-04-11 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 12:58:17 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Thursday, 11 April 2024 10:22:59 BST Dale wrote: I fixed it by commenting out the entry in the passwd file. It then created a new entry. I guess it was set wrong at some point. Just

Re: [gentoo-user] acct-user/man usermod: user 'man' does not exist in /etc/passwd

2024-04-11 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 12:58:17 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 10:22:59 BST Dale wrote: > >> I fixed it by commenting out the entry in the passwd file. It then > >> created a new entry. I guess it was set wrong at some point. Just > >> looks like emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:44:05 BST Paul Sopka wrote: > On 09.04.24 15:23, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > I want to move my Intel i5 NUC box to a place where Ethernet is not > > available, nor like to become so. That means I have to get WiFi working, > > but I've had no success

Re: [gentoo-user] acct-user/man usermod: user 'man' does not exist in /etc/passwd

2024-04-11 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 10:22:59 BST Dale wrote: > >> I fixed it by commenting out the entry in the passwd file. It then >> created a new entry. I guess it was set wrong at some point. Just >> looks like emerge would be able to update it tho. Joost showing my >> setting was

Re: [gentoo-user] How to find out all openrc dependencies?

2024-04-11 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 10:48:15 BST J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 11:35:10 CEST Michael wrote: > > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 06:19:57 BST J. Roeleveld wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > For a while I've been seeing the following ERROR-messages when booting 1 > > > of > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] How to find out all openrc dependencies?

2024-04-11 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 11:35:10 CEST Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 06:19:57 BST J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > For a while I've been seeing the following ERROR-messages when booting 1 > > of > > my systems: > > > > * ERROR: cannot start multipathd as localmount would

Re: [gentoo-user] How to find out all openrc dependencies?

2024-04-11 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 06:19:57 BST J. Roeleveld wrote: > Hi all, > > For a while I've been seeing the following ERROR-messages when booting 1 of > my systems: > > * ERROR: cannot start multipathd as localmount would not start > * ERROR: cannot start zfs-import as localmount would not start

Re: [gentoo-user] acct-user/man usermod: user 'man' does not exist in /etc/passwd

2024-04-11 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 10:22:59 BST Dale wrote: > I fixed it by commenting out the entry in the passwd file. It then > created a new entry. I guess it was set wrong at some point. Just > looks like emerge would be able to update it tho. Joost showing my > setting was different gave me the

Re: [gentoo-user] acct-user/man usermod: user 'man' does not exist in /etc/passwd

2024-04-11 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 02:23:22 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> This failed once before but I didn't worry about it. However, since the >> profile update, it still fails. I'd like to figure out how to fix it. >> I tried doing a emerge -C and then emerging it again. No

Re: [gentoo-user] acct-user/man usermod: user 'man' does not exist in /etc/passwd

2024-04-11 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 10:16:52 CEST Dale wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 03:23:22 CEST Dale wrote: > >> Howdy, > >> > >> This failed once before but I didn't worry about it. However, since the > >> profile update, it still fails. I'd like to figure out how to

Re: [gentoo-user] acct-user/man usermod: user 'man' does not exist in /etc/passwd

2024-04-11 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, 11 April 2024 03:23:22 CEST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> This failed once before but I didn't worry about it. However, since the >> profile update, it still fails. I'd like to figure out how to fix it. >> I tried doing a emerge -C and then emerging it again.

Re: [gentoo-user] acct-user/man usermod: user 'man' does not exist in /etc/passwd

2024-04-11 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 02:23:22 BST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > This failed once before but I didn't worry about it. However, since the > profile update, it still fails. I'd like to figure out how to fix it. > I tried doing a emerge -C and then emerging it again. No help. This is > the

[gentoo-user] How to find out all openrc dependencies?

2024-04-10 Thread J. Roeleveld
Hi all, For a while I've been seeing the following ERROR-messages when booting 1 of my systems: * ERROR: cannot start multipathd as localmount would not start * ERROR: cannot start zfs-import as localmount would not start This isn't a big concern as these services will start correctly later:

Re: [gentoo-user] acct-user/man usermod: user 'man' does not exist in /etc/passwd

2024-04-10 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, 11 April 2024 03:23:22 CEST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > This failed once before but I didn't worry about it. However, since the > profile update, it still fails. I'd like to figure out how to fix it. > I tried doing a emerge -C and then emerging it again. No help. This is > the

[gentoo-user] acct-user/man usermod: user 'man' does not exist in /etc/passwd

2024-04-10 Thread Dale
Howdy, This failed once before but I didn't worry about it.  However, since the profile update, it still fails.  I'd like to figure out how to fix it.  I tried doing a emerge -C and then emerging it again.  No help.  This is the output.  It's not to long, whole thing.  :-D >>> Failed to

Re: [gentoo-user] Successfully upgraded to new profile 23.0

2024-04-10 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Wol, On Tuesday, 2024-04-09 18:36:53 +0100, you wrote: > ... > Btw, where are all the messages for packages stored? I ought to go > through them and make sure there aren't any messages of interest... My script for package installations or upgrades sets begin=$(date '+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %Z')

Re: [gentoo-user] Successfully upgraded to new profile 23.0

2024-04-09 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 4/9/24 5:55 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > There is one caveat, though: all the binary packages have been compiled with > default USE flags. If you've changed any on your system, you'll still have to > install those packages the standard way. I have 24 such USE settings on this > machine. But

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