Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
if you leave it in the garage for 6 months it complains very very loudly. I've been reading this thread all along, and one thing is clear to me: Gentoo is not for you (unless you change your expectations), it does not do what yu want and likely never will. You need a binary distro. -- Alan McKinno

Re: [gentoo-user] Sweet Sweet Portage

2016-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/08/2016 02:24, james wrote: > >> Please post the output of layman -l > alunduil > java > pentoo > science > sunrise > torbrower > ultrabug > xmw That's what I thought. I reckon I know what your problem is. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Sweet Sweet Portage

2016-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
cally; dozens of times as I update 3 or 4 times a week. Please post the output of layman -l > > > > YMMV. --livin the dream, brah, livin the dream. > hth, > James > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about genkernel's default kernel config

2016-08-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
for a binary distro or a LiveCD - works everywhere (by enabling everything). You can customized it with a config somehwow (I forget the details). But this is gentoo: cd /usr/src/ make menuconfig -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-apps/kde-l10n-16.04.3:5/5::gentoo conflicting with kde-apps/kdepim-l10n-15.12.3:5/5::gentoo

2016-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
wl.) > > Dan > > Every time I've seen Thunderbird stuuter and stall, it's been network related. Usually I'm trying to access a large IMAP store remotely (that tends to stall all IMAP clients to some degree depending on how well the system deals with blocking). -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-apps/kde-l10n-16.04.3:5/5::gentoo conflicting with kde-apps/kdepim-l10n-15.12.3:5/5::gentoo

2016-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/08/2016 09:52, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 08 Aug 2016 22:45:09 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> KMail is the lost child of KDE for many months now, I reckon this >> situation is just going to get worse and worse. I know for myself my >> mail problems ceased the day I

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-apps/kde-l10n-16.04.3:5/5::gentoo conflicting with kde-apps/kdepim-l10n-15.12.3:5/5::gentoo

2016-08-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/08/2016 19:20, Michael Mol wrote: > > > > > On Monday, August 08, 2016 06:52:15 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 08/08/2016 17:02, Michael Mol wrote: > >> > Been getting this in my email every morning for several days now. Rather > >

Re: [gentoo-user] 2 MTA at the same host

2016-08-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
> What i need to change in ebuild files of these packages in order to > install both of them ? > > Thanks. > > -- > *This message was delivered using 100% recycledelectrons***. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-apps/kde-l10n-16.04.3:5/5::gentoo conflicting with kde-apps/kdepim-l10n-15.12.3:5/5::gentoo

2016-08-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
/4::gentoo, installed) > > > Now, it's not clear, if I'd like to continue using both KMail and non- > deprecated kde-apps, what to do here. Just hope that kdepim gets updated to > qt5 soon? I'd pitch in, but I don't have the time. > please post the portion of the output/mail that shows the blockers. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2016 17:01, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Check the link posted by Douglas. > Ubers article has some misunderstandings about the architecture with > conclusions drawn that are, at least also, caused by their database

Re: [gentoo-user] Opera-12 license mask warning

2016-07-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
e informative to do away with any guessing? > echo $category/$package $license > /etc/portage/package.license I guess it's not listed explicitly in every ebuild with a non-free license because you are supposed to know how to unmask stuff on your on Gentoo system. The info is in the portage man pages -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2016 22:58, Mick wrote: Interesting article explaining why Uber are moving away from PostgreSQL. I am running both DBs on different desktop PCs for akonadi and I'm also running MySQL on a number of websites. Let's which one goes sideways first. :p

Re: [gentoo-user] Machine running before modem turned on - Network weirdness

2016-07-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/07/2016 18:53, Andrew Lowe wrote: On 27/07/16 00:10, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 26/07/2016 18:01, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I can remember in the distant past that I had to have my modem turned on before the computer otherwise, I wouldn't get an IP address. Then something changed. One

Re: [gentoo-user] Machine running before modem turned on - Network weirdness

2016-07-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
g time" or > something similar that I need to set to get this running nicely again? > > Thoughts greatly appreciated, > Andrew > There's no single global default, that is set is whatever dhcp client you are using. Which one is it? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

2016-07-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 19/07/2016 22:04, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On 07/19/2016 03:37 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 19/07/2016 20:58, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Can anyone tell me what package I need to get the KF5 kcmshell modules for >>> i

Re: [gentoo-user] KF5 icons/styles settings UI. Which package?

2016-07-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
b64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so ... kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.7.1 (/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_style.so) alan@khamul ~ $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so * Searching for /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so ... kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.7.1 (/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kcm_icons.so) --

Re: [gentoo-user] Install dkms: which package

2016-07-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
easy if > they're > frozen. > > > It is not in portage. It is a unique module. Edited by me in the source > code. > > But how can I install the module without dkms? usually I make this > automatically with dkms :S > make, make install, modprobe ? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage getting slicker?

2016-07-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
ng. The input set for those commands differs, so the output set might also be different. Those two commands you ran are not guaranteed to produce the same results (although the often will). -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage getting slicker?

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/07/2016 23:41, James wrote: Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: On 13/07/2016 20:25, James wrote: So, today I ran a sync and upgrade to a gentoo workstation:: emerge -uvDNp world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Total: 0 packa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: qtcore 5 missing the lrelease binary?

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/07/2016 23:21, walt wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 21:42:37 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:35:26 -0700, walt wrote: I just installed qt5 for the first time because the latest virtualbox requires it. Now virtualbox 5.1.0 won't build because it can't

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage getting slicker?

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/07/2016 20:25, James wrote: So, today I ran a sync and upgrade to a gentoo workstation:: emerge -uvDNp world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gitlab experiences

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/07/2016 21:13, James wrote: Jeremi Piotrowski gmail.com> writes: Has anyone attempted to install a self hosted gitlab on gentoo server(s)? I would deploy it with docker. The gitlab guys push official images of the main gitlab app[1] and CI runners[2] to dockerhub. That should be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gitlab experiences

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/07/2016 20:14, James wrote: "J." García gmail.com> writes: I know the Gentoo Infra team has had negative experiences with hosting just about anything Java and don't want to go near it. I don't know if that is based on specific experiences with GitLab or with just avoidance with Java

Re: [gentoo-user] qtcore 5 missing the lrelease binary?

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/07/2016 22:35, walt wrote: I just installed qt5 for the first time because the latest virtualbox requires it. Now virtualbox 5.1.0 won't build because it can't find /usr/lib64/qt5/bin/lrelease, which (I think) should be in the qtcore package. I copied lrelease from qtcore-4, which worked

Re: [gentoo-user] executing a command as a nologin user

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/07/2016 19:05, wabe wrote: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: On 13/07/2016 18:42, wabe wrote: Fernando Rodriguez <cyklon...@gmail.com> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/13/2016 07:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 12/07/2016 03:47,

Re: [gentoo-user] executing a command as a nologin user

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/07/2016 18:42, wabe wrote: Fernando Rodriguez <cyklon...@gmail.com> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/13/2016 07:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 12/07/2016 03:47, jens w wrote: .procmailrc :0 c * !^X-Loop: n...@example.com | formail -X "From:&q

Re: [gentoo-user] executing a command as a nologin user

2016-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/07/2016 03:47, jens w wrote: .procmailrc :0 c * !^X-Loop: n...@example.com | formail -X "From:" | $HOME/bin/script.sh procmail.log procmail: Executing " formail -X "From:" | $HOME/bin/script.sh for incoming mail, a script is executed. logfile has the same entry as it is in other users.

Re: [gentoo-user] executing a command as a nologin user

2016-07-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/07/2016 22:39, jens w wrote: Am Tue, 12 Jul 2016 16:17:42 +0200 schrieb wabe : jens w wrote: .procmailrc :0 c * !^X-Loop: n...@example.com | formail -X "From:" | $HOME/bin/script.sh procmail.log procmail: Executing " formail -X "From:" |

Re: [gentoo-user] Using SSH around the LAN

2016-07-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
en user's keychain creds are valid over all that user's login sessions on a machine. User's cannot share each other's keychain -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wireless DHCP takes over resolv.conf

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/07/2016 23:03, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2016-07-11, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: On 11/07/2016 22:29, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2016-07-11, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: why don't you go with the dns server addresses supplied by each ne

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/07/2016 23:05, konsolebox wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 4:50 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: On 11/07/2016 22:07, konsolebox wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 3:18 AM, Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks, that led me to sync the kde-sunset over

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/07/2016 22:07, konsolebox wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 3:18 AM, Daniel Frey wrote: Thanks, that led me to sync the kde-sunset overlay. However, I think I am missing a step as when I use emerge or eshowkw it doesn't seem to show anything from the kde-sunset overlay.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wireless DHCP takes over resolv.conf

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/07/2016 22:29, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2016-07-11, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: why don't you go with the dns server addresses supplied by each network's dhcp? Presumably the admin put them their because they work on that network. One might think that, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless DHCP takes over resolv.conf

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/07/2016 20:13, Mick wrote: On Monday 11 Jul 2016 17:31:29 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 11/07/2016 10:32, Emanuele Rusconi wrote: Wouldn't it be better to just use the same servers for both wired and wireless? It's what I use and it works flawlessly. It works flawlessly *for you

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless DHCP takes over resolv.conf

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
wired and wireless network will use the same dns caches. If it happens to work, great, use it. But be aware there will come a day when that is no longer true. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/07/2016 02:46, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 07/10/2016 01:27 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> It's an overlay, not an Attic. Enable the overlay with layman. >> >> A single kde-4 ebuild is useless without the rest of KDE it depends on. >> > > I just tried t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/07/2016 00:06, Philip Webb wrote: The proliferation of pkgs in KDE, Gnome, Perl + other areas is going to become a problem for Gentoo, as they will tend to demand more dev attention & will also add to users' burden in keeping track of what they use + need. I disagree. My burden is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/07/2016 22:25, James wrote: Michael Palimaka gentoo.org> writes: On 10/07/16 05:44, Philip Webb wrote: What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? We recently dropped most of 4.14 as it is old, unsupported, and assists in easing our general maintenance burden. As usual, it has been copied

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/07/2016 21:19, Philip Webb wrote: 160711 konsolebox wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Philip Webb wrote: What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? root:508 ~> eix konsole [U?] kde-apps/konsole Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/07/2016 20:54, Andrew Savchenko wrote: Hi, On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:44:45 -0400 Philip Webb wrote: What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ? root:508 ~> eix konsole [U?] kde-apps/konsole Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test} Installed versions:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4

2016-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/07/2016 19:43, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:22:32 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: The KDE project are notorious for that, or at least in my book they are. I told them last year that if I'd allowed an embryonic KDE-4 out the door the way they did I'd have been out of a job

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nodejs 6.2.1 fails to compile

2016-06-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
his has nothing to do with Java. It's JavaScript which bears zero relation to Java apart from the 3 letters j, v (twice) and a showing up in the name. JavaScript is a cute name coined by Netscape way back in the 90s to cash in on the java craze when Sun released 1.0 -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge of `screen' possible perl mismatch

2016-06-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
). I suppose this sort of issue is best handled with dependencies in the texinfo ebuild itself. Probably warrants a bug entry if re-emerging texinfo fixes it -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Me, and how to troll LIKE A BOSS.

2016-06-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/06/2016 00:14, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Samstag, 25. Juni 2016, 16:31:22 schrieb Alan Grimes: Hello, Let me introduce myself again. [snip] Alan is currently enjoying a vacation from the list. No point in replying anymore. What

Re: [gentoo-user] booting - I don't anystand how the (Linux) world works anymore

2016-06-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
t device naming came into udev, to try guarantee the same device will always have the same name -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS, L10N, and local-gen

2016-06-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/06/2016 20:58, Dale wrote: Since Alan's post makes more sense to me than the docs, I added the L10N to make.conf and I got a clean output. So, that works. Mine is what Alan posted. I guess I'm ready for the future now.;-) And gmail helpfully delivered half my mail after me being out

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS, L10N, and local-gen

2016-06-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/06/2016 22:09, Dale wrote: allan gottlieb wrote: On Fri, Jun 24 2016, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 24/06/2016 16:06, allan gottlieb wrote: Having read the latest news article and rereading parts of the localization guide, it is not clear to me what action, if any, I need to take. My

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS, L10N, and local-gen

2016-06-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/06/2016 17:40, Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 24 Jun 2016 09:54:35 Dale wrote: I agree that the news item was confusing. The guide it linked to wasn't much better either. In the end, I just fiddled with the setting until I found a setting that didn't change what I already

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS, L10N, and local-gen

2016-06-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
llel and the devs will do the heavy lifting. For the moment all changes will be light touch, the big tasks will happen later. One day you will need to remove LINGUAS from make.conf entirely, but that day is not today. And all of this is necessary because making a USE_EXPAND env var called LINGUAS was a really stupid idea from day one. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

2016-06-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 21/06/2016 09:57, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Does anyone have a pointer to where Gnome 3 (3.20 in my case) stores my wifi credentials? I would love to sync that over to my new laptop without re-entering PSKs at customers. Surely the password is kept in an encrypted wallet? Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] how to upgrade perl

2016-06-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/06/2016 18:27, lee wrote: Hi, how do you do an update despite perl blocking it? emerge -a --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y --keep-going @world [...] dev-lang/perl:0 (dev-lang/perl-5.22.2:0/5.22::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by =dev-lang/perl-5.22*

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?

2016-06-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/06/2016 02:02, José Maldonado wrote: El 16/06/16 a las 16:33, Rich Freeman escribió: FWIW - the subject of this thread suggests that this is some kind of "official" Gentoo thing. As far as I can tell somebody took it upon themselves to make this available for Gentoo, but it is not in any

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?

2016-06-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/06/2016 21:11, Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:27:29 + (UTC) James wrote: José Maldonado gmail.com> writes: The last days, ArsTechnica publish this new:

Re: [gentoo-user]

2016-06-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 15/06/2016 13:50, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking at grub2 as a possible boot loader -- I have been using lilo for years, but one thing puzzles me -- there seems to be no grub command, I don't see it in the list of files and typing grub does nothing. I have not run

Re: [gentoo-user] [A bit off-topic] Bash alias and

2016-06-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/06/2016 16:33, Nico Verrijdt wrote: Hi Andrew, 2016-06-12 16:26 GMT+02:00 Andrew Lowe >: Hi all, A bit off topic here, but there are plenty of people who seem to know their shells back to front so here goes. I

Re: [gentoo-user] imagemagick / graphicsmagick collision

2016-06-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/06/2016 12:50, Heiko Baums wrote: Am 12.06.2016 um 12:05 schrieb Alan McKinnon: My main desktop has been giving me these stupid error for a week now. ANd I can't figure out what portage wants to do or how to stop it (other than masking graphics magick): [blocks B ] media-gfx

Re: [gentoo-user] imagemagick / graphicsmagick collision

2016-06-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/06/2016 12:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:05:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: My main desktop has been giving me these stupid error for a week now. ANd I can't figure out what portage wants to do or how to stop it (other than masking graphics magick): [blocks B

[gentoo-user] imagemagick / graphicsmagick collision

2016-06-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi all, My main desktop has been giving me these stupid error for a week now. ANd I can't figure out what portage wants to do or how to stop it (other than masking graphics magick): [blocks B ] media-gfx/graphicsmagick[imagemagick] ("media-gfx/graphicsmagick[imagemagick]" is blocking

Re: [gentoo-user] How to decode this?

2016-06-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
d bug and should be reported at bgo. My setup has all those packages installed since a long time, but trying to re-install fails the same way as you. I reckon the maintainer missed the build failure. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-apps/libksane blocker

2016-05-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
ight be > a actual bug but before I file one, I want to hear from someone else who > can confirm it. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > P. S. I hate breaking down a lawn mower tire when it is 92F outside > with some humidity. Also, I live under a large hill, no wind. I guess > it could be 98F tho. o_O > It could be worse. You could live in Africa and deal with roads at temp 42 C :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

2016-05-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
u >> that the way you are doing things is wrong pretty much says it all. If >> I post that I was doing something and getting a bad result and someone >> such as Neil and/or Alan McKinnon tells me I am doing it wrong, you can >> bet your last dollar that I am about to chang

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-apps/libksane blocker

2016-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/05/2016 12:08, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On 30/05/2016 05:20, Dale wrote: Howdy, I'm trying to do a update and have this last blocker that I can't figure out. I fixed another one but this one doesn't make sense to me. Here is the relevant output. Portage is abusing your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin peculiarities with plasma5

2016-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/05/2016 00:39, Mick wrote: On Sunday 29 May 2016 22:20:56 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 29/05/2016 20:46, Mick wrote: On Sunday 29 May 2016 16:58:29 Mick wrote: On Monday 30 May 2016 01:09:26 Michael Palimaka wrote: On 29/05/16 23:42, Mick wrote: Following the latest round of KDE updates I

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-apps/libksane blocker

2016-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/05/2016 05:20, Dale wrote: Howdy, I'm trying to do a update and have this last blocker that I can't figure out. I fixed another one but this one doesn't make sense to me. Here is the relevant output. Portage is abusing your pixels (using too many). Here's the important bits:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin peculiarities with plasma5

2016-05-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
or works as you want your's to. My deps for that package: # equery depends kde-apps/kdebase-kioslaves * These packages depend on kde-apps/kdebase-kioslaves: kde-apps/mplayerthumbs-15.12.3 (>=kde-apps/kdebase-kioslaves-4.14.3:4[aqua=]) media-gfx/digikam-4.14.0-r1 (kde-apps/kdebase-kioslaves:4) media-sound/amarok-2.8.90-r2 (>=kde-apps/kdebase-kioslaves-4.4:4[aqua=]) and I have these konquesror/dolphin packages installed: kde-apps/konqueror kde-apps/konq-plugins kde-apps/libkonq kde-apps/dolphin kde-apps/dolphin-plugins -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

2016-05-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/05/2016 19:54, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 29/05/2016 11:28, Dale wrote: >>> Håkon Alstadheim wrote: >>>> Den 29. mai 2016 03:17, skrev Gregory Woodbury: >>>>> WOW! >>>>> >>>>> Alan just wa

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads up perl-5.24 and virtual/

2016-05-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/05/2016 10:13, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 29 May 2016 09:40:10 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Heads up to any ~arch users who might run into this. >> >> I've just spent too many annoying hours dealing with perl-5.24 and it's >> modules. As usual with recent perl upgrad

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] How to be a penguin.

2016-05-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
here you tell it to upgrade and then walk away > without checking anything. You are both wrong. What Alan Grimes really wants is an excuse (any excuse) to whine, whinge and bitch about $STUFF. Notice how he never replies to any thread he starts? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Heads up perl-5.24 and virtual/

2016-05-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
with "--backtrack=99" gets portage back into a state where it's willing to continue. Perhaps someone else with more patience can figure this one out. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-base/baloo is blocking an upgrade

2016-05-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
11_pre20160211:4/4.14::gentoo USE="(-aqua) -debug -google -kolab" 1,617 KiB [ebuild N ] kde-apps/kdepim-common-libs-4.14.11_pre20160211:4/4.14::gentoo USE="(-aqua) -debug -google" 18,117 KiB Mick, have you re-synced the tree and updated just portage in the last day? I'd do that first as all indications are that your setup isn't wrong and it should work. You might have to go through your original emerge output and set USE="minimal" for all kde4 packages that support it and hwere there's an equivalent frameworks package. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-base/baloo is blocking an upgrade

2016-05-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
kde-apps/kdepim-common-libs-4.12.1-r1:4[aqua=]) > kde-apps/knotes-4.14.10 (>=kde-apps/kdepim-common-libs-4.14.10:4[aqua=]) > kde-apps/konsolekalendar-4.14.10 (>=kde-apps/kdepim-common- > libs-4.14.10:4[aqua=]) > kde-apps/kontact-4.14.10 (>=kde-apps/kdepim-common-libs-4.14.10:4[aqua=]) > kde-apps/korganizer-4.14.10 (>=kde-apps/kdepim-common-libs-4.14.10:4[aqua=]) > kde-apps/ktimetracker-4.14.10 (>=kde-apps/kdepim-common-libs-4.14.10:4[aqua=]) > Neil is on the right track, kde-base/baloo[minimal] works with kde-frameworks/baloo I suspect you have a kdepim package that requires kde-base/baloo[-minimal], so please equery depends baloo and lets see what wants it -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-base/baloo is blocking an upgrade

2016-05-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
t; > I also attach the complete output in case there is something evident in there > that I have missed. > I think you're screwed, and kdepim is at the bottom of it. gwenview dolphin require kde-frameworks/baloo kdepim-common-libs requires kde-base/baloo Those 2 versions of baloo are mutually incompatible, you have to let one go or move onto whatever Frameworks offers to replace kdepim. What bits of kdepim do you use? equery depends kdepim-common-libs rinse repeat till we get a clear view of the deps (or run emerge world again with -t) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Git for gentoo users?

2016-05-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
SVN works on files, so you commit files. git works with consistent contained diffs so you commit a bunch of diffs as a unit to your repo after adding a new file to the list of stuff to be tracked. As Linux says, when confronted with two choices and no clear winner between them, pick the opposite to what cvs does. Perhaps the git devs went a tad overboard in being contrary :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Death of KDE-4?

2016-05-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
is signal the end of KDE-4 in Gentoo, or can I work round the > blocker somehow? Why does portage want to install kded-5.21.0? That's what is starting the chain leading to polkit-qt needing to be built against Qt5. emerge -t is the place to start. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] what goes on with duplicity?

2016-05-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
thing to fix a > typo, so I wonder if this has something to do with the problem? > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > I think you want section "Repository Constraints" in man 5 portage -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] In Any Build of Firefox I Make it Uses a Poor Method of Downscaling

2016-05-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 19/05/2016 23:11, TheXzoron wrote: > > > On 05/19/2016 04:06 PM, TheXzoron wrote: >> >> >> >> On 05/19/2016 03:54 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> I don't have those issues here, here's my settings: >>> >>> Installed versions: 46.0^d

Re: [gentoo-user] In Any Build of Firefox I Make it Uses a Poor Method of Downscaling

2016-05-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
bout needing to click a link :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't figure out gcc-4.9 blocker

2016-05-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
> (sys-devel/gcc-4.3.6-r1:4.3/4.3::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > sys-devel/gcc:4.3 required by @selected > > (sys-devel/gcc-4.6.4:4.6.4/4.6.4::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > sys-devel/gcc:4.6.4 required by @selected > > > For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following > section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant): > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Working/Portage#Blocked_packages > > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] A Glitch in the Matrix or just another burb of emerge... ;)

2016-05-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
ind and face and by no means meant > as critsm. But please: Make emerge a little more ... understandable ... It's a hard problem to solve, and portage doesn't really know the solution. It likely knows how to make itself shut up (remove the low version compilers) but that's unlikely to *solve* it. Maybe you really want to have 4.4 and 4.9, portage doesn't know how it can give that to you so it brain dumps everything it's got and tells you to figure it out. I think we're all going to have to live with this, it's a problem unique to Gentoo and the amount of complexity we support. Price of flexibility I guess -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] extracting text, numbers from screencasts

2016-05-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
tible with > computers, which makes them useless for anything else but > making phone calls. Huh? da fuck you talkin' 'bout? My trusty collection of Android devices would be very surprised to hear they now don't have real CPUs, wifi chips, RAM and storage. Or can't run a web browser, do email, instant chat, play x264 video with less cpu load than my 8 core laptop, share with smb on the network, do bluetooth, video calls or any of the other bazzillion things computers have always done with each other. How odd. I really thought my Android phones could do all of that. I must have imagined it that means my delusions are worse than I thought and maybe I need different and more pills from the nice lady who's my GP. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: how to share a directory tree with files in it with multiple users (Re: [gentoo-user] local shared directory)

2016-05-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
tem objects in shares it controls. To be accurate, it runs as root and presents the perms you want to the user, but only when accessing the files via samba. Look at these options in smb.conf create mask = 664 force create mode = 664 security mask = 664 force security mode = 664 directory mask

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DRM Problem : Radeon HD 7670M

2016-05-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/05/2016 12:22, JingYuan Chen wrote: When grub or new kernel was installed in boot partition, their permission can be determined by umask. That is incorrect. Permissions are what you see with ls -l or stat. umask is nothing more than a convenience for the user to set a default Why set

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia-drivers does not compile anymore

2016-04-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
[_module_/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-340.76/work/kernel] > Error 2 > 3654:make[1]: *** [sub-make] Error 2 > 3659:make: *** [nvidia.ko] Error 1 > > Any idea ? New patch ? > > Thanks a lot, > > Regards, > > /--/ > /Jacques/ The real error is higher up in the output. Please post it. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Webcamviewer (or such) ?

2016-04-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
Best regards, > Meino > > > vlc and mplayer can usually be persuaded to play almost anything using every imaginable URI out there. Very adaptable softwares :-) Plus the added benefit of not having all that browser resource and screenspace overhead -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Kadu 2.1...OTR / Encryption defunct ???

2016-04-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
adable and understandable to the possibly 1000s of other people reading it. Read through all the posts of today that have more than one reply, you'll quickly see why this method is by far the best. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] And thus the emerge spake...

2016-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/04/2016 14:09, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> [16-04-17 14:00]: >> On Sunday 17 Apr 2016 11:44:50 Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 17/04/2016 11:36, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >>>> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> [

Re: [gentoo-user] And thus the emerge spake...

2016-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/04/2016 11:36, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> [16-04-17 11:08]: >> On 17/04/2016 05:45, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> ...and the novice was buffled and even the master shifted a little

Re: [gentoo-user] And thus the emerge spake...

2016-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/04/2016 11:00, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 17/04/2016 05:45, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> ...and the novice was buffled and even the master shifted a little bit >> after recognizing this words of the eternal being named emerge. >> I know

Re: [gentoo-user] And thus the emerge spake...

2016-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
uldn't go so far as to call it a "bug" as such, because nothing in the spec requires a package manager to guarantee that it will always find the best way to upgrade everything. It only needs to keep the system consistent with the ebuilds it has. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Calm

2016-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/04/2016 21:54, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Saturday, April 16, 2016 09:51:52 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 16/04/2016 21:35, John Blinka wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com >>> >>> <mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com>&g

Re: [gentoo-user] Calm

2016-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
:-) <==== Big fat notice to draw attention to this bit -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge

2016-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
but a port only has one version and each has a poor replacement for USE. [1] in truth, it's the devs who have to cope with that. They need to get a reasonably good idea of what will work with set and set the blockers accordingly. Portage only follows their hints. So thumbs up to our devs! > > (Sorry, everyone. I'll try to quit feeding it, I promise.) > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge

2016-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
when A 1.0 is incompatible with > B 2.0 , you should RTFM you stoopeed nooob!" > > It is fundamentally broken. =| > Hey derp, yo! Put your money where your mouth is and post the output that proves emerge is doing it wrong. Go on, I DARE you. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: why emerge sucks nuts:

2016-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
> Doing things like a madman may, in fact, be the problem. > Or, he might just be the world's most successful troll ever. Look at the number of replies he gets -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Calm

2016-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
/etc/ backup it was really just a little more work than emerge -e world. So yes, huge kudos to the gentoo devs for giving us these tools to make all of that possible! -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge

2016-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
uch much much more grief by refusing to do it's goddamned > motherfucking job than it would be by giving revdep-rebulid a chance to > do it's job. > Hello Mr Grimes, I see you still have trouble dealing with your rage issues. I recommend you seek professional help about that. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE Plasma 5 moved to stable

2016-04-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 15/04/2016 15:09, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 15/04/16 16:06, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 15/04/2016 15:00, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 15/04/16 01:10, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >>>> We even had the choice of installing both KDE3 and 4 at the same time. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE Plasma 5 moved to stable

2016-04-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
tially true. It's plasma 4 and 5 that cannot co-exist, not KDE -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: confessions of a current USE=*

2016-04-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
p-i18n/scim:gtk3 - Enable support for x11-libs/gtk+:3 > app-i18n/scim-anthy:gtk3 - Enable support for x11-libs/gtk+:3 > app-i18n/uim:gtk3 - Enable support for x11-libs/gtk+:3 > ... [ 37 similarly useless descriptions] > > This urgently needs cleaning up, like much of Emerge's output. Indeed. Most flag definitions give you MORE information when removed. Less junk implies more truth -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
wever, I have not added sddm > to the video group and have not noticed anything undue in my logs. I have > however noticed that sddm is slightly slower than kdm. > > Why is the video group needed? What does it do? > It's a simple group permission scheme to allow users access to advanced features on the video card, like what compositing does. cdrom has an equivalent, if you're in the group you can use the drive. If not, you can't -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

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