On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 18:09:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 21:52 05/07/01 -0500, you wrote:
Preferez-vous le finir?
To non-french speaking-people : the question was : do you prefer to
finish it ?
Sorry if I came across a bit snappy, but it's just that if I can't read
a conversation on a
On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 12:52:13 Jean-Claude Magras wrote:
Preferez-vous le finir?
Sincerely
Jean-Claude Magras
Could you please use English on this list? Only a minority
of people here speak any French.
--
Robert Merkel
On Mon, 02 Jul 2001 12:55:43 Chris Lyttle wrote:
Hi
I've been following the GnuCash-devel mailing list for some time now and
now that we have 1.6.0 out the door I was wondering what the feeling
would be for an occasional News email sent out to the various Linux
News sites to keep people up
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 08:36:22AM -0500, Greg Hewgill wrote:
I've just started using gnucash 1.6 (migration from Money 95). I've been
running the reports and have found some odd discrepancies. In particular, in
the expenses piechart (account-piecharts.scm), even expense accounts that have
a
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:22:43 Robin Coon wrote:
Eric Schwartz wrote:
The current thing that is blocking me is setting up a brokerage
account.
Create all the relevant commodities first (check)
Create accounts for each commodity in the brokerage account (check)
Create an account for
WRT to account display bug in transaction report, I've checked
in a fix to CVS HEAD. Would it be possible for you to check
it works before I merge the fix into the 1.6 tree?
1 down (I think), several to go :)
--
Robert Merkel
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:52:08 Arnaud Calvo wrote:
Well, I have understood your last message :
install name-devel.rpm when you have name.rpm !
So when I encountered other pb, I installed :
db1-devel-1.85-4mdk.i586.rpm
libgal4-devel-0.5-2mdk.i586.rpm
... but it would have been too easy
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:15:46 Christian Stimming wrote:
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Oops, that bug goes on me. The problem is that I didn't manage to get the
sub-balance calculation and the account showing/not-showing to follow the
same rules on which accounts to include and
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:27:58 Austad, Jay wrote:
Has anyone here used Paytrust.com? How hard would it be to set up
Gnucash
to pull down bill information and handle transactions with paytrust?
(Paytrust receives your bills for you, scans them in, and sends you an
email
when a bill comes
I have read Bill's suggestions, and I thoroughly support
the concept of increasing modularity.
There are, however, a couple of related issues I'd like
to raise . . .
1) Are there self-contained parts of gnucash that we
could turn in to libraries, enabling their easy use in
projects that
Linas,
I'm currently going through the user docs, and I notice
that we don't have the postgres backend documented in the online
help. Is it OK to transplant your stuff from src/engine/sql/README
into a help file? Is that document currently up-to-date?
--
On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:45:08 Phillip Shelton wrote:
I am lost. How does glib compare with glibc?
glib and glibc are two seperate libraries. Glib was
originally written as part of the gtk+ toolkit, and
provides a whole collection of useful routines, such as
basic data structures like lists,
On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:41:37 Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
Hi,
I've been trying to install GnuCash off and on for at least two years.
1.5.97 is the first version that I have successfully installed.
Congratulations are in order, I think. Here is a rundown of my
impressions:
Installation is
It appears that the average-balance report is fundamentally wrong-headed
about balance displays for stock and mutual fund accounts.
Basically, when the average-balance report converts to the report currency,
a fixed price is calculated which is used for all intervals in the report.
This is OK
On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 11:59:33 Damian Ivereigh wrote:
OK I have fixed it. I needed to actually *save* the file before running
the reports. I hope that doesn't mean we have to do that generally.
Damian
Sorry I didn't reply to your earlier email. This sounds like it's a bug. We
have had
On Thu, 31 May 2001 19:30:13 Herbert Thoma wrote:
Klaus Ridder wrote:
I totally agree: checkes are nearly not used here, focus on online
banking
would be much more important.
I agree, too.
A few points:
1) fixing check printing is a considerably smaller job than online
On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 03:47:50 James LewisMoss wrote:
I didn't want to go messing with this stuff not knowing how things
were setup and planned, but here's the issues I see with the docs (I'm
willing to fix these issues I just wanted to make sure I'm not messing
with things that are meant to
A little while ago you reported having some problems with
GnuCash locking up Enlightenment when opening a new register
window. I don't know whether you received a reply (if not,
sorry about that), but your problem was added to our bug
tracker (http://www.gnumatic.com/bugs) by one of the
You reported a report with style: multi-line in the transaction
report a little while ago. Nobody has been able to duplicate the
crash, and there wasn't much to go on in the bug report.
Is this crash still happening? Does GnuCash hang totally? Is there
a scheme backtrace?
I'd really like to
Ben,
You're right - fixing the currency printing for cheques,
for full generality, is going to be a major PITA,
and there's no way we can get it into 1.6.
However, for a quick hack to make things work just for
AU users, you can just modify the function number-to-words in
number-to-words.scm.
GnuCash 1.5.x has the ability to print checks. Unfortunately,
it writes out the amounts in words in a US-specific way - for
examples, $234.56 is written out as
Two hundred and thirty-four Dollars 56/100
and $234 is written as
Two hundred and thirty-four Dollars 0/100
on Australian cheques,
On Wed, 30 May 2001 23:06:31 Duarte Loreto wrote:
Hope this helps someone. I can look at the scheme file and see how it
could work in portuguese, although I promisse nothing as I never coded
in scheme nor C.
Do you know perl? Python? Basic? Pseudocode?
If you can code a little
On Thu, 31 May 2001 10:03:29 Duarte Loreto wrote:
I think it woul be easier to do the code than explain the grammar... ;)
OK. By weekend, I can send you a Java class that gets a number and
returns
the string. The languages I'm better at (or least worse) are Java and VB.
My
current
On Tue, 29 May 2001 22:57:41 Matthew Condell wrote:
Hi,
I've just started trying to get 1.5.97 compiled on FreeBSD 4.3.
Haven't had a chance to try out earlier releases in the 1.5.x
series.
I've had a couple of hangups so far:
Fixes (or at least workarounds) for the problems you
Please ignore.
--
Robert Merkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Go You Big Red Fire Engine
-- Unknown Audience Member at Adam Hills standup gig
(sorry for the crossposting, but probably appropriate in this case).
I've been investigating bugs with gnucash's printing of guppi graphs. One
seems to be a straightforward guppi bug, the other is somewhere in the
interaction of guppi, gnucash, gtkhtml and possibly gnome-print :(
Firstly, a
On Sun, 27 May 2001 02:07:12 Klaus Ridder wrote:
Talking about GnuCash for business:
It is already possible to set accounts to tax-related, which is quite
useful.
{tax} is inserted in the notes-field, as I can see.
I _am_ using gnucash for business, and one of the functions I'm really
OK, below is a list of all the requirements I can *currently* think of for
building
and running gnucash 1.5.x, soon to be gnucash 1.6. Feel free to flame for
errors
and omissions :)
Once we've corrected the errors we'll put this up
on gnucash.org.
Software requirements for GnuCash 1.{5,6}:
O
This is weird, as gtkhtml uses A4 size. I am not sure what is the
standard way of printing settings like paper size, resolution, ...
Lauris?
I did notice this. I think the margins are probably fine for general
text, for for tables, you want the option to use as much as the page
as
On Thu, 10 May 2001 17:50:56 Klaus Ridder wrote:
29/4/2001 Woolworths
50.25
Assets:GST Credits 2.64
Expenses:Foodstuffs 47.61
Cash
On Thu, 10 May 2001 14:55:07 Linas Vepstas wrote:
Found a bug in balance sheet report, Christian, is this yours?
When I back-date a report, and select 'nearest price',
it doesn't seem to actually use the nearest price.
It seems to always use the latest price ...
Maybe this is a price-db
On Sun, 06 May 2001 18:00:33 Dave Peticolas wrote:
Christian Stimming writes:
Bill Gribble will know more, but as I recall the libguppitank interface
was already in existance when we decided to use guppi. I don't think it
was created just for gnucash, but I'm not sure if any other apps use
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:13:22 Nathan A. Smith wrote:
Hi,
I have been
trying to run the latest gnucash, but when I do I get the
following errors:
Could not find platform independent libraries prefix
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
'import site' failed; use -v
Christian Stimming writes:
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Hi goonie,
we forgot another case. If the user chooses a small display-depth so that
children accounts are not shown, then what balance should the
parent-account show?
Ok, given accounts
Rob's Liabilities
There's something screwy happening in in gnc:numeric-mul. Here's a
snippet of code, and the results out of the gnc-warn . . .
(let . . .
;;; stuff . . .
;;;
(price (gnc:price-get-value
(gnc:pricedb-lookup-nearest-in-time pricedb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd like to see 'invoice' added as a report type. The way I envision
it, its almost identical to 'transaction report', except that the visual
layout resembles an invoice. The adressee would either be typed in by
hand, or maybe pulled out of the account
Guppi supports them (though I'm not sure whether guppitank does), but
it doesn't seem like we do.
I was thinking that they'd be a kind of useful way to present
income/expense data (ie each slice of the bar representing a different
expense account). What do you think?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am facing a similar situation as Markus. I was using version 1.4.3 while
Suse 7.0 was installed. Recently I upgraded to Suse 7.1, gnucash 1.4.3 still
worked fine. Problems started when I discovered that later versions of gnucash
were available. In the beginning
Ben Stanley writes:
The bane of a GNUCash user's life seems to be getting all the shared
libraries installed - and learning what a shared library is etc. One
would hope that rpm and other packaging systems would look after this
for us, but a recent posting to the gnucash-users list
Derek Atkins writes:
Robert Graham Merkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You might notice that we never hear of problems from Debian users
trying to install the Debian packages. That's because Debian *does*
have this problem solved. Debian dependancies are package rather than
file
Bill,
I'm just trying to get my head around the table style code,
and I'm not sure how the API appears to work matches up with what I
want to do.
As you anticipated a while ago, I want set different rows different
colours (heading rows different to subheading rows, alternating
colors
Bakki Kudva writes:
Just a quick note to put down my recent thoughts on image enabling gnucash.
I made a diagram with Gnu Dia and have attached it. Still at a high leve
conceptual stage.
My thoughts are to keep mods to the gnc tree to an absolute minimum (so
I don't have to dig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
Sounds like not a bad idea, you should pursue this on the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.
--linas
It's been rumoured that Booster said:
Hello,
I am using Gnucash regularly, its really great.
But I have one problem,
Darryl Okahata writes:
Christian Stimming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 27 February 2001 10:59, James LewisMoss wrote:
etags != ctags
ctags produces a vi tags file. etags produces an emacs tags file.
I don't agree.
For that matter, why is gnucash even
Derek Atkins writes:
I was trying to create a new account for some stock. When I tried to
add the new stock, I decided to ask for "help", and this is when
Gnucash went into an error loop. I did the following:
o Right-click in the main window
o Select "New Account"
Bill,
It appears that the new report-generation code appends new html
elements to the end of scheme lists. This is fine for short reports,
but it's obviously O(n^2) and thus it seems like it's a real performance
bottleneck for the transaction report, which can generate very large
html tables.
Olaf Marc Zanger writes:
hi there,
on my suse 7.0 system with suse-gnucash 1.4.9
with the rpmfind guile-1.3-7.i386.rpm installed i get the following error
message
maxwest@sino:~ : error in loading shared libraries: libguile.so.9: cannot
Bakki Kudva writes:
teri wrote:
In its current state OCR seems to work only in very controlled
situations. eg. a warranty return card which you have control over and
you force the user to write into boxes, or neatly typed paper documents
which law firms use to do full text OCR and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's been rumoured that Jason Rennie said:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
What way is a profit or loss calculated; should be (total_amount *
current_price) - sum_t(value(t)), that is (current value of account -
money spent to buy the current amount).
Looks interesting, but strictly personal finance, and closed source.
http://www.thekompany.com/products/kapital/
Robert Merkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"We can build a better product than Linux" - Jim Allchin,
Jonathan David Wheelhouse writes:
Hi
Already sent this to debian-user but didn't get any really helpful responses.
Needless to say I _don't_ want gnucash removed but the following seems
to be a mistake in dependencies.
I've cut other bits out that seem to be irrelevant.
Robert Graham Merkel writes:
Jonathan David Wheelhouse writes:
Hi
Already sent this to debian-user but didn't get any really helpful responses.
Needless to say I _don't_ want gnucash removed but the following seems
to be a mistake in dependencies.
I've cut
Bill Gribble writes:
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 02:38:17PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote:
However, if we are to have some reasonable hope of saving/restoring
state (not to mention the popup menu issues) we can't just have
arbitrary GtkWidgets put in panes, and at the moment
WRT our discussions on simplifying panes by replacing the
gnc_report_window * member of the gnc_pane structure with a GtkWidget
*, I agree that this would be a win. However, if we are to have some
reasonable hope of saving/restoring state (not to mention the popup
menu issues) we can't just have
Dan Kegel writes:
Could something similar be done for gnucash? Would it help
make crash bugs less likely?
One of the problems with that is that the majority of crashes seem to
come from GUI code. Writing test scripts for a GUI is rather more
difficult than writing them for server code.
Dan Kegel writes:
That's interesting. So the crashes are usually in the C that
handles the GUI, not in the C that handles the database or any of
the Scheme?
We get the occasional crash from all three, but the engine stuff is
probably the most reliable, and also easiest to debug if it
Birger Retterstl Olaisen writes:
I've made some modifications to the file
share/gnucash/scm/report/transaction-report.scm to add the posibility to sort
by account number. These modifications may perhaps not be well coded (it's my
first attempt to code in sceme, so I don't know the
Alex J.P. writes:
Hi All,
Finally got the unstable version to compile and run. The initial look at the
new register windows and the help system in one short word is WOW!!. It looks
really good. (A few more WOWs like this and we are going to make a lot more
waves than we are making
Clark Jones writes:
Christian Stimming wrote:
[...]
trtd colspan=2Assets/td.../tr
trtd/tdtdCash/td.../tr
trtd/tdtdChecking/td.../tr
I think this solution looks a bit more sound than the rather ad-hoc
Have a look at the development version, There's a bunch of table
Christian Stimming writes:
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On Sunday 21 January 2001 13:09, Robert Graham Merkel wrote:
Have a look at the development version, There's a bunch of table
generation code in it that ALL reports are going to get converted to
using.
I did have
Jonathan David Wheelhouse writes:
Hi
First, thanks for a great app; I use it daily (and drive my wife nuts
asking for receipts after she's done the shopping).
I'm glad you like it!
I'm a programmer and am interested in hacking on gnucash (although I have
a mainframe background
I should have realised this earlier, but your report window
code shoves the options dialog in a gtk_paned container
even when the report is itself embedded in another container
(in the case of panes, in another gtk_paned).
Do you think it might be better to have a seperate options
dialog for
Bill Gribble writes:
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 03:53:49PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote:
Hey grib, I'm almost to the point of doing useful things
with panes (finally). One of the final things that needs
to be in place is a renderer along the lines of the
gnc:html-*foo*-render
Christopher Browne writes:
This is with a CVS checkout from last night of the latest and greatest.
This is admittedly one of those pathological cases where the "dumb user"
has _nothing to save_, so that trying to save the DB is a mite silly.
Crashing is nonetheless an irritating
Hey grib, I'm almost to the point of doing useful things
with panes (finally). One of the final things that needs
to be in place is a renderer along the lines of the
gnc:html-*foo*-render that are required to display guppi
charts in reports.
However, I'm not exactly clear on how these are
Ariel Rios writes:
On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Dan Kegel wrote:
I'm sure this has been discussed a zillion times but I'd like to bring it up again:
Requiring that all high-level Gnucash code be in Scheme might be
restricting the number of developers able to contribute to it.
Linas Vepstas writes:
FYI, just for grins,
I had occasion to look over the web server logs recently, and
couldn't not notice that folks at Microsoft like to look at our
screenshots every now and then. Also, curiously, they seem
very interested in our documentation for the QIF file
To support saving reports (required for panes, amongst others)
we really need to create report instances
with options already specified, and thus a constructor that takes
report options as an argument. Any problem with this?
Robert
WRT the bug discussed on IRC where multiple report windows caused a
crash in Redhat (with guile 1.3.4), I can confirm the bug is
repeatable on Debian potato (also with guile 1.3.4).
Fun fun fun for everyone to debug :/
Robert Merkel
Rob, I'd like so save the pane layout as part of the .xac file, rather
than have it as a seperate file or as a part of the .gnucash-auto
file.
As it's file metadata, rather than something that fits with a specific
account, transaction, or split, it's not really suitable for putting
in the
Bill Gribble writes:
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 01:56:45PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote:
Bill, I'm busily working on the pane code, and I need to get the
actual widget from a gnc_report_window and shove it in a container.
How do I do so?
You do it the other way 'round
Bill,
I think we discussed before how I'd like to be able to pass
a popup menu to a report_window. How difficult would this be
to arrange?
Robert Merkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"We are excited and
Bill, I'm busily working on the pane code, and I need to get the
actual widget from a gnc_report_window and shove it in a container.
How do I do so?
Robert Merkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"We are excited and
Eugene Tyurin writes:
snip
Is this really something a casual user who wants to balance his
checkbook and know how much he spends on beer can bear?
Unless it's totally transparent to them, no. Basically, it may be
that GnuCash, in the long term, has to split into two seperate
--
rijweoprjwoiejrpoiwej
Robert Merkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"We are excited and optimistic about its usage going
forward and, yes, we can teach penguins the military
close-order drill", Mark Norton, US
The following code in latest CVS src/guile/Makefile.am is kinda machine-specific . . .
FLAVOR=gnome guile -c \
'(set! %load-path (cons "/usr/local/opt/g-wrap/share/guile" %load-path)) \
(primitive-load "./gnc.gwp") \
(gw:generate-module "gnc")'
CLEANFILES
Phillip J Shelton writes:
Woud also having the date functions in this library be a good thing?
On the face of it, that's not a bad idea. However, the gnumeric
people to some extent have already had their date representation and
functions decided for them (by the desire for Excel
Phillip Shelton writes:
As gnucash is in C, should we look at seeing if it is ok to rewrite in C or
just run with the gnumeric date functions?
Or add another dependency? :-\
Um, I can't speak definitively but I think we'd all be extremely wary
of adding dependancies to C++ libraries,
Rob Browning writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Gribble) writes:
jody suggested that the gnumeric folks might be receptive to an
app-neutral refactoring of the financial stuff in gnumeric. If we can
make a freestanding library from their code, we can share it with them
and
Bill Gribble writes:
On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 12:04:59PM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote:
Bill, you wanted some information about ROI calculation.
All this stuff is all archived in the ML - read the thread starting
at this URL:
http://gnucash.org/gnucash-devel/June-2000
I also agree that a shared financial library would be an excellent
idea.
Is there any other project that might get on board, or should we just
get going and if we start producing something good other people can
get involved as they see fit?
Bill, you wanted some information about ROI calculation.
All this stuff is all archived in the ML - read the thread starting
at this URL:
http://gnucash.org/gnucash-devel/June-2000/msg00409.php3
This calculations are slightly nontrivial, so sharing them with
gnumeric if possible may not be a
Mike Sabin writes:
I fall into the category of "wanting-to-help-but-lousy-at-C-and-scheme".
Your idea is a good one. Python is about the only language i'm
worth anything in. I will consider it for a few weeks. December
is looking pretty hopeless, workload-wise.
If you get a chance
Looking for a way to help gnucash, but your scheme and C is a little
rusty? Want to learn some xml? Want to help speed up development?
Want to build a tool that could be the building block for a bunch of
other very nifty things? Well, have I got a project for YOU!
Generally, one of the first
Derek Atkins writes:
That's still not a fair comparrison. I can go compress the
old binary format, too. Let's compare apples to apples here
and leave file compression out of it.
You certainly can go and compress the old binary format, and it
shrinks a file down to about 1/3rd the size of
OK, we've continued discussing this on IRC, and it turns out that like
many things in life it's more complex than I first envisiaged.
Not only do we need to record which accounts contain transactions
related to a stock, for later tax reporting purposes we need to
differentiate between interest,
OK, one thing that we need to do for stock reporting is associate
stock accounts with income and expense accounts containing (surprise
surprise) income and expenses related to that stock.
I propose to add turn the "account add/edit dialog" into a tabbed
dialog. The first page would stay
I'm intending to be away Friday 1st through the morning of Sunday 3rd
December.
--
Robert Merkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"We are excited and optimistic about its usage going
forward and, yes, we can teach
Is there something incredibly clever going on here that I'm not
understanding, or is this code just crufty:
src/gnome/window-main.c:
static void
gnc_account_cb(GNCMainWinAccountList *tree, Account *account, gpointer
data)
/* why the extra argument */
{
gboolean sensitive;
account =
I was kind of afraid something like this might happen!nbsp; If every time
where a null string used to be returned, we now get a #f, this could cause
a lot of bugs in numerous places. It would be better to fix the source
of the problem, rather than the downstream problems it causes.
Richard -Gilligan- Uschold writes:
gnucash: latest CVS
guile: 1.3.4
g-wrap: 0.9.12
Herbert.
--
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FhG-IIS A, Studio Department
Am Weichselgarten3, 91058 Erlangen, Germany
Phone: +49-9131-776-323
Fax: +49-9131-776-399
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linas,
would you like to put something on the webpage about the #gnucash
channel on irc.gnome.org? We've been using it quite a bit the past
week or two, and I think it's working quite well.
Robert Merkel
Glen Ditchfield writes:
On November 18, 2000 12:13 am, Robert Graham Merkel wrote:
Bill Gribble writes:
... which makes the HTML look sort of like what Linas was hoping it
would:
iframe src="gnc-scheme:(scheme-func-to-spew-html)"
Then maybe somebody could
Bill Gribble writes:
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 10:25:46AM +1100, Robert Graham Merkel wrote:
snip
With suitable conventions for encoding the object's parameters (they
get passed in via a GHashTable) we can use this as a handy way of
embedding a LIVE guppi plot in the HTML widget. I have
You mentioned briefly on IRC that you were doing something
with printing. Was that gtkhtml printing, or just checks?
It's just that we're still having problems with table splitting,
despite the latest CVS gtkhtml supposedly fixing this. Is it
somehow possible that the interface has changed
According to the gtkhtml people, they have now implemented table
splitting in CVS gtkhtml. However, when I try it, the tables are
still split in the middle of lines.
Could somebody else try printing (to a file is easiest) a multi-page
transaction report with CVS gnucash and gtkhtml, just as a
Guys, I've just tried the new gtkhtml which was supposed to fix the
page splitting with tables, but doesn't.
Is it possible that we're doing something wrong with our use of
gtkhtml to cause this to occur?
Robert Merkel
Matthew Vanecek writes:
Robert Graham Merkel wrote:
A couple of questions that must be answered about something like that.
Do you want it simply because Quicken has it, or because it looks cool?
Those in charge would really have to look very hard at whether such a
feature truly
For those of you who haven't used Quicken lately, apparently it now
has a main window that displays a configurable set of reports, graphs and
other financial information (including downloaded stock quotes). It's
a very nice feature and probably worth trying to do something similar.
The question
Hans-Juergen Hay writes:
Robert Graham Merkel wrote:
I can't duplicate your crash. Is there any other distinguishing
features you can identify when the crash occurs.
No, I try to buid it with debugging info so that I can look at the core
file. I get back to you when I can
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