I likely would as well, which leaves Flatpak or building from source as
the only options to get a proper GnuCash upgrade path via 3.x. And
building might be quite messy with respect to dependencies in this case.
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/26/22 4:19 PM, David Carlson wrote:
It's not me, But if it
Interesting question.
Perhaps try a 3.x flatpak?
Otherwise, if you haven't yet jumped from 18.04 to 22.04 maybe an
interim stop at 20.04 will get you GnuCash 3.x.
(Can you even go directly from 18.04 to 22.04? I didn't think it would
even give you the option)
Be sure to review the Wiki
As for using the Expenses account, unless you intentionally made it
*not* a placeholder account, you can't put transactions in it. I'll
hazard a guess that is why the importer is not assigning it.
Create a sub-account of Expenses for tracking the commissions/fees and
try to assign that one in
Unless I've confused something, purchasing or selling a stock/fund/etc.
should be between 2 asset accounts. Considering a split for a commission
or such, (like the first line of your CSV) it would be a *specific*
expense account, not the parent and placeholder "Expenses" account.
Regards,
the instructions but it didn't work.
On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 8:44 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
Glenn, check the wiki with respect to the GTKInspector which might be
able to help you find the proper id/class/object to target.
From the Inspector you can als
Peter,
I think the problem stems from your choice of report options.
Namely, by default, 'Account Name' under the Display tab is *not*
selected, while the 'other account' is.
This is because by default the Sort options are:
Primary: account
Secondary: register order
So by default, the
Sorry, while I did send screenshots on 8/2, my reply on 8/3 contains the
annotated versions.
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/16/22 8:25 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
I sent a reply on 8/2 with annotated screenshots showing the issue using
default options save for the account selection
Thanks Geoff, good to know!
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/16/22 8:17 PM, Geoff wrote:
Both Microsoft Windows 10 & 11 have a comprehensive automated file based
backup and restore utility built in. Read this article for an overview:
Peter,
You are reading the report incorrectly.
I sent a reply on 8/2 with annotated screenshots showing the issue using
default options save for the account selection.
John replied this afternoon saying the same thing using significantly
less words than I did on 8/2.
The reports are all
Indeed, my apologies David. I got lost in the thread, which it seems has
now broken again (2 new messages I see are threaded separately as a new
topic) and one reply from Chris Good concerning OFX import having the
auto-creation option somehow ended up in a thread "Due Invoices Reminder
form"!
On 8/16/22 1:33 PM, dsamo...@shaw.ca wrote:
I am new to Gnucash and have a few questions regarding saving data. I use
Windows 10 and Gnucash Version: 4.11 Build ID: 4.11+(2022-06-25)
1. I would like to save everything in one folder named Gnucash. I
think I will use the xml format.
Glenn, check the wiki with respect to the GTKInspector which might be
able to help you find the proper id/class/object to target.
From the Inspector you can also make changes in real time to experiment.
I'm pretty sure that GnuCash doesn't expose this element to styling, but
customizing the
David,
This thread keeps breaking, but unless I've lost track as a result, I
thought this was flywire's thread from the start. (who also has several
other related threads dealing with specific aspects of the task at hand.)
The goal was to import transactions for, and as a result, mass create
Same place:
Preferences > Business
You've set Preferences > Business > Bills > Notify when due with a # of
days, simply do the same for Invoice right above that.
The two numbers can of course be different.
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/15/22 10:53 AM, Eric Hammond wrote:
When I enable the "Due
Not officially.
There was a 'GnuCash for Android' created by someone else that is no
longer maintained for a few years now. (it was never a part of the same
project)
There may be other apps that can export their transactions which you can
then import to GnuCash on your computer.
Maybe
Check the 'Using GnuCash' page perhaps.
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/14/22 9:50 AM, Tom Browder wrote:
P.S. Is there a spot on the Wiki to list things like Geoff's suggestion and
flycatcher's program? If not, I will be glad to start one--suggestions
welcomed.
If the issue is creating the security, why not set that up in GnuCash
before the import?
Am I missing something?
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/14/22 3:06 AM, flywire wrote:
Portfolio Performance also exports broker account transactions that can be
normalised with a python script to import into
Apologies, that was a different user.
The other thread involved editing a payment with a job assigned. Is that
your case too?
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/12/22 7:40 PM, Robert Simmons wrote:
If I use the process payment feature on an invoice to a customer, and then
go to the checking account the
Does this invoice involve a job? I thought this was what you were
reporting the other day.
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/12/22 7:40 PM, Robert Simmons wrote:
If I use the process payment feature on an invoice to a customer, and then
go to the checking account the payment was processed to, and then
Yet another example of how awesome the GnuCash team is. Thanks John!
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/12/22 3:11 PM, John Ralls wrote:
That was it: The registers weren't refreshed unless the SLR dialog runs and the
user clicks OK. I've pushed a fix that will be in tomorrow's nightlies
I'm pretty sure the Guide (or Help) covers other/multi-currency
questions with regards to stocks.
The account has to be of the same currency as the stocks. So even if you
buy the same stock but in different currencies, you'll need separate
accounts for each stock & for each currency—e.g.,
Do you simply want to track activity but are not concerned with
individual share counts and prices?
If that is the case, then a basic account of type Asset would do.
You then make your entries as needed just like the Pen & Paper method.
I'm sure there are plenty of resources online to
I thought one was already opened. (but I admit I didn't search for it)
If I recall correctly, it has to do with refreshing the register view.
This seems to happen with registers that are left open at the last close
and which re-open before the Since Last Run dialog fires.
Though hitting
Robert,
Done: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798598
However, it seems you're on quite a streak finding bugs.
Consider registering an account.
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/11/22 7:03 AM, Robert Simmons wrote:
do you need me to file it?
I don't have an account. Can you file it?
If I'm not mistaken, Mint has a backup utility. So you can just set it
up and make sure the GnuCash locations noted in the Wiki and Guide are
included in the paths to be backed up.
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/10/22 9:29 PM, davidcousen...@gmail.com wrote:
James
Correct.
You can register an account at bugs.gnucash.org.
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/10/22 4:02 PM, Robert Simmons wrote:
No Bugzilla account. Github account, but it looks like you all only handle
PRs there, not issues.
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you need me to file it?
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Adrien
On 8/10/22 3:45 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Nope, I already had a credit note that I ended up not using. (but since
you can't delete them, it was available for testing) I had previously
deleted the line items so I added some dummy data and couldn't
Nope, I already had a credit note that I ended up not using. (but since
you can't delete them, it was available for testing) I had previously
deleted the line items so I added some dummy data and couldn't reproduce
the effect you described.
However, this credit note is to a customer, not from
I cannot duplicate this on v4.11 running on BigSur.
The highlights change as they should, but the values remain correct and
do not change to 0.00. (There is a Subtotal column, and a Subtotal
'total' at the top, neither change for me)
What is your GnuCash & OS version?
Regards,
Adrien
On
I guess I read the chart differently.
It does make sense to know what you started a period with in regards to
an asset like a bank account or cash on hand. (And I also see your point
of wanting to know where you ended up.)
Though I suppose an option could be added, clearly, your position on
Yes I did, thanks Chris. I intend to play with that soon. That is an
interesting approach.
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/9/22 6:49 PM, Christopher Lam wrote:
AdrienM: You may have seen my successful experiment in building on Linux
(or WSL2) using Nix to load the dependencies into a temporary shell for
Aha, thanks John. I wonder how much trouble it would be for a user to
update their compiler or if that is just a mess for the rest of the
system. (all else being equal, which I'm sure it isn't)
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/9/22 3:06 PM, John Ralls wrote:
Caveat: Check the dependency requirements in
respectively -
still not so terrible.)
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/9/22 1:37 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Seems reasonable to me.
I'd think the only versions with instructions that are useful are those
still supported by Canonical, namely, these LTS releases:
14.04 - EOL 4/24 (ESS 4/19)
16.04 - EOL
As Michael noted, Transaction order is up to you.
They appear as you enter them.
You can 'sort' by various means, see View > Sort.
I abuse the NUM field to enter a 'time stamp' to intentionally order my
transactions so I don't have to worry about the entry order.
There is no auto-numbering
Seems reasonable to me.
I'd think the only versions with instructions that are useful are those
still supported by Canonical, namely, these LTS releases:
14.04 - EOL 4/24 (ESS 4/19)
16.04 - EOL 4/26 (ESS 4/21)
18.04 - EOL 4/28 (ESS 4/23)
20.04 - EOL 4/30 (ESS 4/25)
22.04 - EOL 4/32 (ESS 4/27)
That's just another workaround though. It creates multiple transactions
when in the real world, there was only one event.
The Process Payment feature doesn't really 'support' the desired
function, but can still be used to accomplish the the task.
I'm personally comfortable using the 'assign
Eric, you didn't specify your OS.
To clarify other replies:
If you are on Mac, you can't open your data file by clicking on it. But
you can create a simple Automator Workflow or AppleScript (or other
script) to create a shortcut for each book. (or use the Terminal) That
would be useful if
Here's a use case:
Vendor invoices containing 10+ line items that need to be entered into
both an accounting package and an inventory/POS system.
Multiply that case by a dozen or more a week.
And compound it by said 'PDF' invoice being a *scan*. (which of course
means really good OCR needs
I agree, this is already possible, but *not* using the 'Process Payment'
feature as it is currently implemented. (that is, if one is paying on a
Vendor invoice.)
To accomplish this, you have to enter the payment with multiple source
splits as Frank and others have noted, and AP as the debit
Kalpesh,
Thanks for the links. I have a need for a PDF to CSV solution for other
software and this looks like it is a good fit for me. (folks may be
shocked how many large businesses in 2022 can't generate decent business
documents/data in a proper electronic format for using in various
Ditto concerning Ubuntu versions.
In my experience so far building on older versions of Ubuntu, you can
stumble into a nasty nearly un-resolvable dependency hell. It *can* be
resolved (best I have figured out so far) by pinning lots of packages,
but that may not always be the best solution
After you re-create the payment, does it show as 'owned by' the Customer
or the Job? (as before)
I'm going to hazard a guess this is due to the following:
In order to match payments, each payment and invoice need a common
'owner'. There can be only one 'owner' of a document. (payment,
Keith, sorry I don't use the Jobs feature so can't comment specifically.
Is there something holding you back from v4.11? 4.5 is over 2 years old
and there are 5 regular releases since then. (and 1 snap release, so
only small changes for that one.)
Maybe do a search on the release notes for v
Of course. Sorry if it seemed I implied otherwise.
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/5/22 9:02 AM, Glenn Fowler wrote:
Even with the SQLite database you still need backups.
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An alternative is to use the SQLite backend. There is no file
cluttering, and the added bonus of instant saves rather than periodic.
I'm not sure how easy that is to set up on Windows, however.
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/4/22 5:47 PM, GNC mailinglist wrote:
Hi,Im new to GnuCash but, yep, I was
James, of course, move on to something else if you really want to, but
there are lots of us here to help. There aren't too many places
(especially with respect to accounting software) to find such a community.
If you decide to stick it out, we can do our best to help.
However, *specifics* are
Thanks David, interesting.
There is a 'reply via e-mail to' button at the bottom left of a
mail-archive.com message, but that would go by default to the original
author - not the list.
However, from the actual archive on the list server you *can* send a
message to the list, with the subject
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/2/22 12:24 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Peter,
Yes, I caught all of that.
I'm referring to default options of the report - not GnuCash generally.
If you have the report still open, close it.
Now, run it again. Note, you shouldn't get anything at first except a
page te
lease see
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information."
On August 2, 2022 8:26:38 AM GMT+03:00, Adrien Monteleone
wrote:
I would think editing the Wiki would be in order. (no need for historical notes)
What filters are you referring to?
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/2/22 12:14
Yep. For summary:
If you want to change options, you have to click Options, make your
change, then click Apply or OK. (Apply leaves the Options window open
for further fiddling, OK will close it.)
If you want to keep your options set as-is, but you edit a transaction
and want to see the
Indeed, If the plot dimensions of the chart are set to their minimums
(100 x 100 px or 10 x 10 %) then the chart disappears. (not sure why
that works, but so be it)
Pity though, you have to run two separate charts in a Multi-Column to
get both Assets & Liabilities on the same screen. I see a
I would think editing the Wiki would be in order. (no need for
historical notes)
What filters are you referring to?
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/2/22 12:14 AM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
Hello,
Since the Nabble mirror of Gnucash lists went down (last year?) and doesn't
seem to be getting up
Peter,
Yes, I caught all of that.
I'm referring to default options of the report - not GnuCash generally.
If you have the report still open, close it.
Now, run it again. Note, you shouldn't get anything at first except a
page telling you that you need to set options first, particularly to
I just upgraded to 4.11 (but I'm still on BigSur, though that should not
matter) and ran a transaction report on one of my asset accounts and it
works as expected.
I'll note that your the screenshot of your Transaction report looks like
you have *two* transactions with the same date, not both
That preference is merely for presentation.
Yes, the manual describes how the options work.
It has nothing to do with debit vs. credit but rather the account
balance shown as positive or negative. Whether an account has a debit or
credit balance is not changed by the preference.
Regards,
Apologies. I hadn't viewed the entry attachment.
Indeed something is amiss then.
I am on MacOS, so I'll see if I can duplicate it.
Regards,
Adrien
On 8/1/22 9:18 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
My entry is not backwards.
In the first of my attachments you can see how I entered the Checking
The report is correct.
Your entry is backwards.
Open your Checking register.
Then View > Transaction Journal (now you see all splits for all
transactions, nothing hidden)
This particular transaction should be:
dr. Checking
cr. Donations
That will increase *both* the amount in your
What you are looking for (other than the Accounts Tab) is perhaps a
Report. Play around with various reports to see what suits you best.
Specifically for the particular accounts you mentioned, experiment with
the reports in the Assets & Liabilities menu. The Balance Sheet, Asset
Chart/PieChart
James, the Cinnamon desktop is the default desktop for Linux Mint.
Unlike Windows (and MacOS) with Linux, you have a choice of which
Desktop you want to use.
Mint offers 3 main options out of the box:
1. Cinnamon (the main option if you didn't intentionally choose #2 or #3)
2. MATE (looks
Indeed, I see that now. I had simply use `apt show gnucash` (similar to
`apt-cache policy gnucash`)
I just sent a message to the upstream maintainer requesting that be
cropped out to avoid confusion.
Though I'm not sure how that gets propagated. Most likely, it won't be
updated until the
Alan,
Edit > Find Account shows a list of accounts and lets you search the
list by name.
Edit > Find — returns a list of transactions in 'register' format
matching your search criteria. The dialog title says so — "Find
Transaction". (maybe the menu entry should be changed to reflect this?)
David, I just checked a VM of Mint 20.3 I have and the GnuCash version
is 3.8, not 2.2.9. Mint 20.x appears to be based on Ubuntu Focal. (20.04)
Still, yes, 3.8 is quite aged, but not as ancient as 2.2.9.
Mint 21 Vanessa was released and I see it has 4.8 in its repo. (based on
upstream Ubuntu
James,
GnuCash doesn't provide 'downloads' for Linux. (that is, ready to
install and run.) GnuCash instead provides the source code for download
to 'build' GnuCash. This is probably *not* what you want. (for advanced
users and developers)
You install it from *within* Linux (not downloading
That only works for me if that part of the tree is already expanded. I
tested this myself before sending my initial reply because it was my
first thought to try.
I think what you are describing is a GTK find function that is operating
on the panel with focus. (which is the Account Tree) But
It isn't supposed to bring up a list of accounts, only Find Account does
that.
Find is designed to give you a 'register' of transactions matching your
criteria.
So the idea was an alternative way to find out where the account is in
the tree by searching for transactions assigned to the
I just noticed something in the Find Account dialog.
If you choose Edit > Find Account, you see a list and can search all
accounts.
If however, you right-click an account and then choose Find Account in
the menu, there is a new preference for Scope which defaults to
'sub-accounts of'
I thought MariaDB was supposed to be a 'drop-in' replacement for MySQL.
Was it really necessary to use XML in the migration?
Frank has already pointed you to the config wiki page, but for the
theme, check the FAQ on the wiki. There's an entry in the 'Customizing'
section that will lead you to
What version of GnuCash and on what operating system?
-
Does the account appear in your account tree? (I'm guessing you don't
see it though, which is why you're using the Find Account feature)
Is it Hidden?
(note, this should not matter, I can 'find' hidden accounts)
Also note, the
Welcome to GnuCash!
When you do the import, all of those transactions should have one
account the same, for whatever you are importing from, say, a bank
account. You then assign the 'other' account for each transaction.
(expenses, paying liabilities, income, etc.)
Check out the Help Guide &
If the window is not in focus, ALT+TAB can cycle through windows for you.
ALT+SPACE (or SHIFT+right-click) will bring up the 'window' menu of the
window in focus which has a 'Move' option. Then use your mouse or arrow
keys to reposition the window.
You can also right-click the taskbar to
The 'search' feature on the list archive is broken, so your options are:
View the Archive and use your browser's Find feature for various terms.
(but that will only work for the particular page of the Archive you are
viewing)
Using your favorite search engine, specify 'lists.gnucash.org' as
So...user error?
Regards,
Adrien
On 7/22/22 6:41 PM, David Carlson wrote:
The auto save interval might default to 5 minutes but for me it is one of
the first mandatory changes to make when setting up a new file to set it
to a half hour or longer because I won't turn it off altogether.
Is the default not 5 minutes? One shouldn't lose more than 5 minutes of
work in such a case.
Regards,
Adrien
On 7/22/22 2:04 PM, Jean Laroche wrote:
I fully agree. Does this mean that the default autosave should be
changed to something more reasonable?
On 7/22/22 11:46 AM, David T. via
A crash doesn't always mean GnuCash is at fault. Sure, it may encounter
a condition that should be handled much more gracefully, but there are
potentially many, many, many variables out there that influence that
condition.
Part of triaging a crash (without a log, crash report, stack trace,
Someone else can help with the logfile, and it *should* replay your
steps, but I'd offer two suggestions for a different workflow:
1. copy the file locally first, then open it. (other users of DropBox
may have additional/alternative practices to help with sync issues)
2. Import, match &
Tom, forgive me if I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to
accomplish. (based on the initial direction of some of the replies,
perhaps I am not grasping the original question properly.)
But what do you mean by "ignore accounts"?
If you have any data in GnuCash, it *is* double entry.
I wasn't trying to cause you work, just offering ideas on tracking down
the cause. Eliminating variables is part of that process. Lots of tabs
and especially reports open = variables.
I'm going to hazard there is a report that feeds off one of those
registers (likely the one you are
First, I'd reduce the steps before trying to save as a way of narrowing
down the trigger of the crash.
If you normally have many tabs open, particularly reports, perhaps
consider closing everything but the CoA, and then keep only the register
you need at one time.
Since it is so easy to do,
Someone who is more familiar with the importer can help, but from what I
see in the screenshots:
The first image looks reasonable. You just need to assign the 'transfer'
accounts in the first column. (the sources or destinations for funds
in/out of the bank account)
The second screenshot
Thanks for reporting back your success! Glad to have been of assistance.
Regards,
Adrien
On 7/16/22 3:07 PM, Don Gray wrote:
You should have a:
~/Library/Application Support/GnuCash/checks/
directory.
I do! And it has check format files in it.
These show in gnucash as expected.
Thank
:02 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Simply copying over the relevant directory should transfer the custom
formats.
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You should have a:
~/Library/Application Support/GnuCash/checks/
directory.
(*note, that is the Library directory under your HOME directory, not the
root version at '/Library' or the OS version at '/System/Library'. It is
not visible by default, you need to view it explicitly using the 'Go
The Customer Report can show current 'credit available' once the
pre-payment is processed and can be given to the client. Of course, this
doesn't show rate info, etc. (though a footer type stylesheet might
offer room for such info)
An alternative would be to create a Credit Note and send that
A negative asset is effectively a liability. It is part of a concept
called 'contra' accounts. You can have contra-liability accounts too,
that are effectively assets.
Asset - normally a Debit balance - amount you own.
Contra-Asset - Credit balance - amount you owe someone else. (liability)
On 7/12/22 5:18 PM, Eric Hammond wrote:
Revisiting the pre-paid invoice (coupon, credit note ...) issue:
In standard accounting a prepaid debt (aka a coupon, credit note, etc) is
booked as a liability.
On paper, and as direct import of transactions into GnuCash, this works
However, I
to
Martin for providing a path for investigation, and thank you again Tracy
for reporting back your findings. These posts are what this User list is
all about.
Regards,
Adrien
On 7/12/22 9:14 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
For the simple reason they'll be annoyed and try to ignore the bug
report, I'd
For the simple reason they'll be annoyed and try to ignore the bug
report, I'd file it. You never know who else has the same problem with
various apps. Heck, I'd bet the bug is already filed, maybe even closed
as 'won't fix'. That's even better. File another and make them spend
their time
As Michael noted, this is a budgeting vs. accounting question.
Other than the 'Cash Flow' report, I would recommend investigating the
Budget module. (*not* necessarily changing your account tree or
transactions, though that may be in order anyway.)
You can budget what is expected and get a
I would think a Report Option for specifying the Labels might work better.
Your idea would work, but only for one language at a time.
Regards,
Adrien
On 7/6/22 4:55 PM, Paul Kroitor wrote:
New idea: create a new localization for English-language Non-profits.
This would allow us to change
As a followup to my previous reply, you can submit a PR with the
'Non-Profit' version of the report for inclusion in a future release.
This will then get translated as needed.
Regards,
Adrien
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Glad to hear it worked out! And thanks for reporting back with details.
Others may have need for that report if you don't mind sharing, and if
you think it is general enough. I think you can attach Scheme files
here, but if not, posting a link to a file hosting site works too.
(I'm not
Ah, I see the problem now.
Check the wiki concerning custom reports. You could edit the report's
hard-coded total labels and then add that report to your menu.
Odds are, you don't have to know Scheme either. Just do a Find/Replace
on the report code for whatever you want to change and then
It is also possible to enter a 'reference transaction' for documentation
purposes if you don't enter a value. So you'll only have one split for
the same account as the open register.
Find > Value > Has Debits or Credits > Equal to > 0.00 worked for me.
I suppose you could also add a criteria
Did you try changing the name of the Equity account to 'Net Assets'?
Regards,
Adrien
On 7/4/22 6:33 PM, Paul Kroitor wrote:
Most of the entities we use GnuCash for are non-profits, and here (at least)
non-profits don't have "Equity". They have "Net Assets", which is the same
thing but doesn't
No, not limited to securities accounts.
There might be more than one cause, but it also happens for any account
with a notes content that spans more than one line.
There's already a working bug report on it.
Regards,
Adrien
On 7/2/22 7:18 AM, John Layman wrote:
Note that double spacing
I always have notes displayed. I didn't try removing the column. But
yes, removing the extra line in the note solves the spacing issue. I'm
going to hazard a guess that the note field 'has wrap' set to true in
the GUI code. I don't have time at the moment, but if someone can fire
up their GTK
Indeed, it is the multi-line note that causes it. But I can't get it to
go away no matter what I collapse and expand.
Regards,
Adrien
On 7/3/22 9:24 AM, Gyle McCollam wrote:
Seems, I don't have the OP in my email thread, but David Cousens is correct. I
added the notes filed to my accounts
Weird. Definitely not on Mac BigSur as far as I can tell.
Likely something OS specific.
Regards,
Adrien
On 6/30/22 7:00 PM, dull...@gmail.com wrote:
I think since 4.11 (am using Windows 11 and a dark theme), I notice very odd
random line spacing in Account list window (the default window when
12:56 PM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
On 7/2/2022 3:38 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Starting from the source account is good practice no matter the type
of transaction.
Since funds in double-entry have to 'come from somewhere' and 'go to
somewhere', by always entering the transaction
Starting from the source account is good practice no matter the type of
transaction.
Since funds in double-entry have to 'come from somewhere' and 'go to
somewhere', by always entering the transaction in the source account,
you are always choosing the destination(s).
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