On Thursday 18 May 2006 06:11, Alexey Petrenko wrote:
2006/5/18, Chris Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:27, Alexey Petrenko wrote:
Just FYI...
We WILL have cyclic dependencies. In AWT and Swing modules for example.
Sorry, you've lost me. Do you mean AWT depends on
On 17 May 2006 at 22:27, Alexey Petrenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We WILL have cyclic dependencies. In AWT and Swing modules for example.
We already have them both in the java source and the natives - e.g. luni
and archive.
-Mark.
Right :)
2006/5/18, Mark Hindess [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 17 May 2006 at 22:27, Alexey Petrenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We WILL have cyclic dependencies. In AWT and Swing modules for example.
We already have them both in the java source and the natives - e.g. luni
and archive.
-Mark.
On 5/18/06, Jimmy, Jing Lv wrote:
Stepan Mishura wrote:
SNIP
4)Resource file name MUST contain some index.
In general, a test may use a set of resource files
To summarize: for test org.apache.harmony.tests.java.lang.SomeClassTestwe
have the following structure
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:46:55AM -0700, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
First, they announced some kind of distribution-like agreement with
Ubuntu, so that any Debian-based distro can easily install Java.
About time! Goodness!
Second I'm not sure how to describe this. When Jonathan Schwartz
Rana Dasgupta wrote:
Hi,
Is there an expectation of a standardised deployment model for the
Harmony
compliant VM's like DRLVM and others? Eg., should they all produce
binaries
that can be unpacked to overlay the Harmony Classlib deployment structure
as can the IBM VME? At some point, we will
Gang,
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 05:30:53PM +0100, Tim Ellison wrote:
Mark Hindess wrote:
On 17 May 2006 at 12:30, Daniel Gandara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Hindess wrote:
Daniel,
I've just contributed a JIRA,
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-471
that integrates the
On 5/18/06, Alexey Petrenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2006/5/18, Gregory Shimansky [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you talk about developers only there is no need for swing.jar or tweaks
like that. Developers already have some kind of java SDK installed and the
place to solve missing dependencies is
Right.
2006/5/18, Andrey Chernyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 5/18/06, Alexey Petrenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2006/5/18, Gregory Shimansky [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you talk about developers only there is no need for swing.jar or tweaks
like that. Developers already have some kind of java SDK
Tim Ellison wrote:
Salikh Zakirov wrote:
Vladimir Gorr wrote:
My personal opinion is we need to improve the existent build system for
DRLVM contribution.
...
Therefore there are no needs to compile them each of participants. It'd be
fine to have these sources pre-compiled (another
Mikhail Loenko wrote:
Hi George,
I use ant to build and run the tests, so I'm likely unaware of some
Eclipse
problems.
If we put classpath test classes to
impl/java and api/java
and bootclasspath ones to something like
impl/java.injected and api/java.injected
will it solve the problem
On 5/18/06, Chris Gray wrote:
On Thursday 18 May 2006 06:11, Alexey Petrenko wrote:
2006/5/18, Chris Gray
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:27, Alexey Petrenko wrote:
Just FYI...
We WILL have cyclic dependencies. In AWT and Swing modules for
example.
Sorry, you've lost me. Do you mean
Stepan Mishura wrote:
On 5/18/06, Jimmy, Jing Lv wrote:
Stepan Mishura wrote:
SNIP
4)Resource file name MUST contain some index.
In general, a test may use a set of resource files
To summarize: for test
org.apache.harmony.tests.java.lang.SomeClassTestwe
have the following structure
That sounds very reasonable, but I have a problem:
I tried to implement it and found that as far as we put all test results
into a single directory and generate a single report, we can't have
different tests with the same name.
For example we can't have impl and api tests of
2006/5/18, Jimmy, Jing Lv [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Stepan Mishura wrote:
On 5/18/06, Jimmy, Jing Lv wrote:
Stepan Mishura wrote:
SNIP
4)Resource file name MUST contain some index.
In general, a test may use a set of resource files
To summarize: for test
Alexey Petrenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 18 May 2006 at 13:21, Andrey Chernyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Returning back to the subject of this discussion, I guess it should be
relatively easy to modify the DRLVM building system such that it would
get the binary HDK from web and use
But we need to run the classlib on some machine.
So we need to include some VM to HDK or prepare binary builds of VMs
and put them near the classlib binary build.
2006/5/18, Mark Hindess [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Alexey Petrenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 18 May 2006 at 13:21, Andrey Chernyshev
On 5/18/06, Jimmy, Jing Lv wrote:
Stepan Mishura wrote:
On 5/18/06, Jimmy, Jing Lv wrote:
Stepan Mishura wrote:
SNIP
4)Resource file name MUST contain some index.
In general, a test may use a set of resource files
To summarize: for test
On 18 May 2006 at 14:36, Alexey Petrenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
2006/5/18, Mark Hindess [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I was assuming that the HDK for the classlib would not contain
any VM specific artifacts. If it did, which VM artifacts would
it contain SableVM, drlvm, etc. or all of them?
Hi Mikhail,
That is a very good point and your suggestion of supplementing the class
or package name sounds like a very straightforward way around the
problem. Because there will be a number of tests that must be in an
identical package name to the type under test then it seems that the
Ivan, Andrey,
The main thing I vote for is to evaluate and to take the best from other
distribute dependency management systems before starting relatively
easy to modify the DRLVM building system. I like Ivan's list, though
Apache Maven has a domestic priority :-).
Let me address two real
Mark Hindess wrote:
On 18 May 2006 at 14:36, Alexey Petrenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
2006/5/18, Mark Hindess [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I was assuming that the HDK for the classlib would not contain
any VM specific artifacts. If it did, which VM artifacts would
it contain SableVM, drlvm,
There are classes like X509CertImpl.java in this case impl test for it
would be X509CertImplImplTest which does not look very good.
How about ITest ?
Thanks,
Mikhail
2006/5/18, George Harley [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Mikhail,
That is a very good point and your suggestion of supplementing the
Mikhail Loenko wrote:
There are classes like X509CertImpl.java in this case impl test for it
would be X509CertImplImplTest which does not look very good.
How about ITest ?
Thanks,
Mikhail
Hi Mikhail,
Sure, that works for me.
Best regards,
George
2006/5/18, George Harley [EMAIL
It is hard to notice 'I' letter between others :-) , for example, the next
doesn't look good for me:
SomeExceptionITest.java, SomeExceptionTest.java
What about SomeException_ImplTest.java?
Thanks,
Stepan.
On 5/18/06, Mikhail Loenko wrote:
There are classes like X509CertImpl.java in this case
Mikhail,
For me is hard to differentiate between X509CertImplTest and
X509CertImplITest. So I vote for inventing something different.
Why moving implementation-independent tests into a separate package
(like org.apache.harmony.test.tested_package) is no longer discussed?
BTW, in this case we can
We would not want to couple the classlib to a particular VM however. So
far I have been thinking
about the HDK from a classlib perspective, without considering the VM
used. I imagined that any
developer who used a classlib HDK would just grab a VM snapshot (or the
IBM VME) and overlay
that onto
Quoth Stepan Mishura:
AFAIK java.security doesn't depend on java.awt.
You're right, my bad. There are methods in java.lang.SecurityManager (not
java.security) which look as if they should use java.awt.AWTPermission, but
still no actual dependencies. That's what comes of relying on memory ...
Andrey Chernyshev wrote:
We would not want to couple the classlib to a particular VM however. So
far I have been thinking
about the HDK from a classlib perspective, without considering the VM
used. I imagined that any
developer who used a classlib HDK would just grab a VM snapshot (or the
IBM
Today is Harmony's 1st birthday :)
geir
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Hi,
This is why I had asked the question of VM binary layout compatibility on
the Single Module thread. ( no link ) :-) What Oliver is saying sounds
reasonable to me. Please see below..
On 5/18/06, Oliver Deakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrey Chernyshev wrote:
Well, may be I'm missing some
Leo Simons wrote:
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:46:55AM -0700, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
So, while many of us knew that Sun will OSS Java eventually, it's still
good news, and it's nice to see that the Java ecosystem is moving slowly
but surely to openness :)
Good on them! You know, 2 years
On 5/18/06, Andrey Chernyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That should work as well, at least for class libs. Actually I was
thinking of HDK containing the pre-compiled binaries for all modules,
not just the ones from the class libraries. VM developers would
probably want to be able to work on a
Vasily,
test are not implementation specific; they were developed against the
RI and all of them are supposed to work fine with RI. I believe the
issue is due to the jre version you are using, remember that we have
always assumed Sun's J2SE 5.0 as the RI.
Daniel
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On 5/18/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But that's not open source...
Obviously not. :)
FC
Thought you guys might be interested in this...
http://danesecooper.blogs.com/divablog/2006/05/what_sun_doesnt.html
Danese
On May 18, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
But that's not open source...
Fernando Cassia wrote:
On 5/17/06, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So where are the gifts? :)
-- dims
On 5/18/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Today is Harmony's 1st birthday :)
geir
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On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 05:05:21PM -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
So where are the gifts? :)
it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing ... :)
congratulations!
cheers,
dalibor topic
-- dims
On 5/18/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Today is Harmony's 1st birthday :)
Today during our JavaOne talk (given by Tim and I) I was proud to
demonstrate JEdit running on Harmony!
That's right, with Swing/AWT code. The formal contribution is on it's
way, and I don't wish to steal any more thunder from the contribution
when it's made, but we (Intel hat on here..)
I wrote recently with regard to suns comments on OSS java:
You know, 2 years ago I would've pretty much jumped up and
down a little and I'd have gone whoohooh!.
Then, On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 03:31:15PM -0700, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Today during our JavaOne talk (given by Tim and I) I was
Leo Simons wrote:
I wrote recently with regard to suns comments on OSS java:
You know, 2 years ago I would've pretty much jumped up and
down a little and I'd have gone whoohooh!.
Then, On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 03:31:15PM -0700, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Today during our JavaOne talk (given by
Happy Birthday! Great jobs guys!!! :-D
Way to go Intel!
During the JavaOne talk we were able to demonstrate the following
applications running on last Friday's snapshot build of Harmony with
the IBM VME:
- RSSOwl 1.2 atom/rss newsreader (www.rssowl.org)
- Tomcat 5.5.17, the JSP and Servlet examples
- Eclipse 3.2 RC4 and how it is
Leo Simons wrote:
Gang,
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 05:30:53PM +0100, Tim Ellison wrote:
Mark Hindess wrote:
On 17 May 2006 at 12:30, Daniel Gandara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Hindess wrote:
Daniel,
I've just contributed a JIRA,
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-471
that
I hope you are at JavaOne. Otherwise the time on this note is just silly.
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My two cents ...
It'd be not bad to have some snapshots of HDK for the different VMs.
Depending on the preference each of us can download either of
another snapshot for the development needs.
Do you like the J9, DRLVM or Sable VM? No problems! Download it and enjoy
:-)!
Maybe it makes sense to
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