According to the great words of Sirius F. Crackhoe:
> You know, it's always the same tired old argument: "Well if it
> weren't for us who run the servers, online multiplaying would not
> exist.". Give me a break. Look how many servers are out there right
> now? Do you think the few of you who are i
According to the great words of THC_Vaporizer:
> Mad, you continue to get more and more jaded as time goes on...I love
> it.
heh heh...
Funny thing is, aren't we like super late with HL2? Why isn't that the
top priority? Same thing happened with TF2... it had a release date and
then slowly got bu
According to the great words of hondaman:
> When is cs:cz released officially?
At some point in the next five to ten years... unless the source is
stolen, then add another five years.
-Mad
--
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"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proof. And
According to the great words of James Sykes:
> For the time being I don't think the Linux gamer represents a large
> enough percentage of players to spend time and money on, especially
> on such an aging game. Use Winex or something.
Everybody I know who left HL and moved to UT or ET did so becaus
According to the great words of James Sykes:
> As a business decision it is very simple. How much money will it take
> to develop an application on Linux and how much money will it make.
Develop? No, port. 95% of the code is already portable. All the game
logic and all the OpenGL code. The only "W
According to the great words of James Sykes:
> I would rather they didn't _WASTE_ time on a Linux client.
> If you want to play games then stick to Windows.
My version of Windows is no longer supported. Can you send me $200 to
upgrade it so I can play my $20 game?
Thanks!
-Mad
--
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According to the great words of m0gely:
> Basically you mean your server is publicly accessible and users are
> authenticating to Steam to play on it. Users can still authenticate
> to Steam playing a LAN game. Thats how you need to do it. My server
> at work is set up the same way. sv_lan is s
According to the great words of Christopher Kunz:
> ruwen wrote:
>
>> First: Hi all :)
>>
>> Whats the meaning of -tos?
>
> The TOS bit for UDP packets, an optional QoS setting that is thrown
> away by most routers and can be seen as redundant in most networks.
You forgot to mention that it can be
According to the great words of hondaman:
> A few days ago we had a discussion about server-side FPS. MY dual
> opterons were posting this score:
>
> 11:43:13 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players
> 0.00 0.00 0.00 902 157 50.00 0
The server is empty. I don't get it?
-Mad
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According to the great words of Jochen Luerken:
> I installed logmod07a on my server and restarted it.
[...]
> HLDS_L 1.2.2.3
I thought logmod was obsolete since its functionality was available
natively by the engine after about 1.1.1.0 release. Unless they've
added some new features, maybe it's n
According to the great words of hondaman:
> Oh, ok. Mine is 100. And let me guess. The higher the sys_ticrate,
> the higher the cpu usage?
Yes. And if yours is at 100 and you're only getting 50 fps, then
setting it higher won't increase your frame rate. Leave sys_ticrate
alone and check your k
According to the great words of frost:
> I got mine on 10k.
lol! (I hope you were joking. Even 250 is too high.)
-Mad
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"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."
According to the great words of S. Zimmermann:
> -> we have 120 slots running lag free, but i'm sure it will work up
> to 150/70 (untested)
How many per server? 10 servers x 12 players is far less load than 5
servers x 24 players.
-Mad
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"A proof is a proof. What kind of
According to the great words of Ryan Schulze:
> wouter v/d Bergh wrote:
>> valve, just wanted let you know the last update totally fucked our
>> server's cpu useage :(
>
> then turn it off.
Might as well. It doesn't seem to be doing anything.
-Mad
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"A proof is a proof.
According to the great words of Michel \Zody\ de Kramer:
> Can we have the list of cheats detected now?
They've never published that in the past. Why start now?
-Mad
--
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"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proof. And when you have a good p
> Take this program it has a graphic surface and uses the putty engine.
> You can take advantage of your mouse.
> It is very easy to circulate with that.
What benefit does a mouse yield to a console application?
-Mad
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"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a pr
According to the great words of Adam Starblazer Romberg:
> SSH is the only way to go to be totally secure.
I think you meant to say "reasonably secure", since nothing is "totally
secure". Security is all about how much is reasonable given what you
are protecting and how much you are willing to spe
According to the great words of Nelson Marques:
> By the way, racism, where ?! not my fault that a public fact is taken
> by perversed mind into racism.
>
>> According to the great words of Nelson Marques:
>>> there are laws still in russia... stupid and weird ones, but there
>>> are...
Maybe not
According to the great words of Christopher Luk:
> is steam down recently?
This differs from any other day how?
-Mad
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"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."
According to the great words of Erik Johnson:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> There will be a new version of the HLDSUpdateTool released in the
> near future (a couple of hours maximum) that will roll back the
> verify
> func
According to the great words of David Hamilton:
> Noticed my server seg faulting this morning. My custom.hpk was
> ~600k. Deleted the file. Server starts, and does not seg fault.
Has it ever occured to anybody that a segfault caused by custom.hpk
could be a very dangerous thing? If I know what
According to the great words of Chris Adams:
> Has anyone noticed a steep increase in HLDS CPU usage since the last
> few updates? Or is it just me...
It has been heavily discussed for months. Every update gets worse.
Search the archives for the background.
-Mad
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"A pro
According to the great words of ComDT-BigGun alias Commendatore:
> An other thing, the picture of the nux is copyrighted by OMPI for my
> society since May 1996
Actually, Tux the Penguin is licensed under the Gnu GPL. Tux and any
images derived from Tux may be freely reproduced by anybody. :P
-Ma
According to the great words of Steffen Homann:
> Please consider that when the CD hook to hlds is broken, propably all
> cheat hooks are broken too.
And if it takes a day to get CD working again, then it takes an hour to
get the cheat hooks working again. That's not the right approach.
-Mad
--
According to the great words of Ryan Schulze:
> any info if this update is going to break Cheating Death again?
Of course it does! It's written right into the Valve employee contract:
"Break all third party plugins with every new release."
They all signed it when they started working for Valve!
According to the great words of Brett Fernicola:
> Follow my advice and you too will have a good server.
I can't wait to check out your server. Although I'm sure it's full 24/7
since it's so hot, so I'll never be able to get on. Any chance you can
reserve me a slot?
-Mad
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According to the great words of Brett Fernicola:
> Any real Proffesional level CS player like my self
You actually make a living playing CS? Wow! I didn't realize the
tournament awards had grown so high!
-Mad
--
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proof. And whe
According to the great words of Mad Scientist:
>> Can any one from Valve confirm if just kicks occur? Is there still
>> a threat of false posi's?
[...]
> 11/22/2003 - 19:52:48: Secure: "[L^M] BUBBA<571><>"
> was detected cheating and dropped from the
According to the great words of m0gely:
> Ok so I just updated a freebsd test server at home and see what must
> the same as everyone else here. build 2583. So there are two diff
> builds.
This really builds confidence in the integrity checking of steam. I
wonder which of those builds has been t
According to the great words of m0gely:
> I don't think you have the new steam patch installed. HLDS version
> should be 2588 I think. It is on my server.
It would appear to depend on the mod.
HLDM status shows:
version : 47/1.1.2.0/Stdio 2583 secure
TFC status shows:
version : 47/1.
According to the great words of Jay Anstiss:
> Ok - next question - how do I setup a STEAM server?
You get it at http://www.steampowered.com (which, as is often the case,
appears to be down right now)
The config files and server structure are pretty much identical to
pre-steam servers. The only
According to the great words of Jay Anstiss:
> According to the Jolt website there's a patch available that solves
> an issue where the server was allowing 'hackers' to take it over via
> rcon - has anyone got a link for this patch please?
All patches now come through steam. All non-steam versions
According to the great words of kama:
> Where is the autorecord function? or does record do the same thing as
> autorecord used to do?
autorecord is gone, use record [string]. Whatever you put in [string]
will be prefixed to the filename, followed by date/time in format
"yymmddhhmm" and map. The f
According to the great words of Nelson Marques:
> having the idea that considering what the original subject was, guess
> to me it's still a good option, specially for shell providers, which is
> not my case.
I agree that chroot jail is a good option. I'm not trying to suggest
they shouldn't be u
According to the great words of Fabio Tielen:
> I don't see that hltv.cfg that you are talking about
You will need to config the tv, so you should keep looking. But...
> Error: libSteamValidateUserIDTickets_i386.so :cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
This is a different
According to the great words of Alfred Reynolds:
> As part of our Wednesday release cycle we have updated DoD, TFC and
> HLDM on Steam.
The results of the link for TFC updates only show the previous updates
a week ago. Same with HLDM. You also forgot to mention that the update
blows away your libl
According to the great words of KnowHow The NetCrawler:
> This mailinglist is great ofr user to user help, but the years I've
> been here it has never been the place to get comments from valve
> directly.
It used to be. Valve used to participate daily in this list, help
people, and even listen to
According to the great words of Shane Robinett aka Weaver:
> More importantly, since Valve gets /most/ of the bandwidth for STEAM
> for free
Do you really think that the STEAM content providers provide more
bandwidth than the combined total of all the game server providers?
> There is a solution
According to the great words of hlds_linux:
> Has it ever occurred to the community that maybe Valve *is* trying to
> kill off the game hosting community so that they can make all the
> money off of their game?
>
> Valve - Care to comment?
How does that benefit them? The game hosts may be making m
According to the great words of Vernon Riley:
> I will actively support and test a server side hack to insert my own
> ads when someone connects to one of MY servers and use MY bandwidth
> to play a game or download a map. I sure hope someone comes out with
> a hack for it.
Unfortunately, it's the
Great update :roll:
I see the following improvements:
- When a user is downloading maps and other CONTENT from my server,
they are now mislead to believe another company is providing that
CONTENT. Meanwhile, I pay for the bandwidth and somebody else is making
money off of the marketing. I'm sure
According to the great words of Alfred Reynolds:
> Delete your ~/.steam/ClientRegistry.blob and make you run the update
> command from the same directory as the steam binary is installed.
They live! Welcome back to the list Alfred!
Did you see my question re: the "content provided by" banner duri
According to the great words of Brett Fernicola:
> If you cant beat me then just join me, and do me a favor and shut up.
>
> I got a smart ass answer for anything you got buddy.
LMAO!
OK, I'm done. Sorry for polluting the list further with my additions,
but I couldn't resist. We haven't had a tru
According to the great words of Brett Fernicola:
> Except for the driving on the left side of the road thing is just
> plain dumb and I could never get used to.
Except they were driving their horse & carriage on the left side of the
road long before the white man ever discovered North America, so
According to the great words of Daniel Stroven:
> Is the US Government specifically after YOU? No.
Based on some of the illegal activities he's mentioned, maybe they are
after him! For just cause, I might add ;-)
-Mad
--
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proo
According to the great words of Tony Di Schino:
> Why? you made the choice to run secure. You can run HLG or CD if you
> want. no one is forcing you to run VAC. You know this, and I feel
> stupid telling you, because I know you know this.
HLG no longer works unless you go back to x.1.1.1. The HLG
According to the great words of dual_bereta_r0x:
> Mad Scientist wrote:
>> How can I get a banner into the empty box that says "Content
>> hosting provided by:" when somebody is connecting to my servers?
>> You know the one when the connection dialog is "valid
According to the great words of Simon Garner:
> But who the heck uses a default install? You can customise exactly
> what packages you want.
Given that you have the source for everything, with sufficient
customization, you can make any Linux distro be exactly like any other
Linux distro. The only
According to the great words of Jonathan M:
> Simply because its easier to use...
Windows is not easier to use. It is easier to learn. The POSIX systems
are far easier to use, once you take the time to learn them.
Unfortunately, most people don't have the patience to learn, so they
just click away
According to the great words of Nathan Woodcock - BarrysWorld:
> You obviously don't run any other servers for communities aside from
> HLDS
In my case, you're right. I've been running HLDS servers exclusively
for the past 3-4 years, so all I can do is base my assumptions on
other's experience.
According to the great words of Matt Heler:
> Valve was just recently hacked.
Their fault. Don't they have an IT security department? If it was a
bank who had just lost their entire database of customer information,
including your own personal files, would you be as sympathetic?
> The code that t
According to the great words of 0x2e:
> Subject says it all.
Yes, it does. And I'm feeling the same way. My only problem is that,
after playing TFC almost exclusively for almost four years, I don't
know what to replace it with. What else is out there that is similar to
TFC? I dabbled in a few "war
According to the great words of kenny:
> Just wondering what you guys were using to see actual fps of your
> linux server?
stats in the console will show it.
-Mad
--
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's pro
I support more attention to TFC as well. We have some serious bugs in
TFC. I understand why the CS patch came out first - more people play
it. But come on, yet another STEAM friends patch? Is that really a
higher priority when people are crashing our servers at will?!? Is that
not important? Also,
According to the great words of PZGN\:
> Your connection has been terminated because of
> memory corruption on your computer.
Just a guess: perhaps you have a bad memory module?
-Mad
--
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proof. And when you have a good proof, i
I've been getting some reports similar to this lately from my players:
> I have found myself getting knocked off of the
> (steam) server a good bit lately...however the server seems to think
> I am still logged in (I still show in the player list) and then it
> takes 10 minutes of trying to reconn
According to the great words of James Couzens:
> If you wish to make such statements back them up with proof.
That's exactly what we're trying to gather.
-Mad
--
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.
According to the great words of Sindre:
> You are so painfully wrong, stop pestering the list with such false
> bullshit, windows DOES RUN HLDS BETTER AT THE MOMENT.
I never said it didn't. My exact words:
>> I'm not in any way suggesting
>> there isn't a difference. All I'm saying is that we do
According to the great words of Alfred Reynolds:
> This is caused by a buggy glibc (for rh8.x and 9.x boxes). Install
> the latest glibc for your distribution.
Thx, except I'm not the sysadmin on that box, and they are not updating
system files for my silly game. Scratch one of my servers off the
According to the great words of Adam Starblazer Romberg:
> Then what was the point of VAC until now? Just to ban ppl until
> valve feels like changing stuff around?
VAC and Steam and everything else are just a test environment for HL2
technologies. This whole maillist is a sham to make us feel "i
According to the great words of antstrength:
> Yes it does. I believe you are getting confused with DSL modems,
> which are really routers.
Actually, a DSL "modem" is a bridge.
-Mad
--
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proof. And when you have a good proof, i
Has anybody tested Steam with wine during any of these Betas? I rid
myself of Windoze several months ago and I'm suddenly very nervous that
I will no longer be able to play :-/
-Mad
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proof. And when you have a good proof, it'
Stunned silence.
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According to the great words of agenthh:
> The question still remains: will we be able to play any Steam games
> on LANs? At all of my LAN parties, we don't have any internet
> connections available.
> A direct answer, please?
The answer is no. If you followed the links Alfred posted, the answer
i
According to the great words of Argus:
> the "unforseen" and "massive" costs of broadband. That's with most
> broadband consumers capped at either 30kbps or 60kbps(Cable)
> upstream. I think we will see downstream rates capped in the future
Broadband customers are capped at lower rates than dia
According to the great words of Jonathan M:
> Why are you running cheating death as a metamod plugin
>
> Read the information in the readme on how to install it
Funny, I've always run it as a metamod plugin without any problems.
-Mad
--
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A
According to the great words of hlds_linux:
> Can all variables in the autoexec be argued on the command line?
I don't know about all? At the least, it seems most can.
> Can seperate config files be argued on the command line?
Yes, you can specify server config, mapcycle, log dir, motd file, max
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> actually the + isnt necessary just put
>
> -game cstrike ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx port 2701x maxplayers ## map
> de_whatever
>
> Personally i run all mine with the port, ip, maxplayers, and start map
> in the autoexec.cfg.
I found when I put maxplayers in the autoexec.cfg, my
According to the great words of Tony Di Schino:
> I've tried putting nice -adjust -20 before ./hlds_run but no go. I've
> tried putting it before screen but no go as well. How can I Nice my hlds
> process while using the screen command in the command line?
Good point - it won't work if you're runn
> I just don't hear the same complains via the list or in forums about it
> from windows admins.
My guess is that the reason you don't hear Windows admins complaining is
because most Windows server admins are simply unaware of what their box is
doing. Linux people tend to be more into tuning/playi
According to the great words of Tyler \Overkill\ Schwend:
> Oh come on, I see updates for my Linux boxes just as often as the
> Windows boxes...
You should stop using beta software then...
-Mad
--
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proof. And when you have a go
According to the great words of Frank Stollar:
> OMG! I can't believe there are admins sticking with older versions than
> 1.16!! Hitbox bug was awesome till this release.
However, the hitbox bug does not affect all mods, which is why not
everybody needed to upgrade.
-Mad
--
"A proof is a proof.
According to the great words of James Clark:
> You should have been running at least 1.15 metamod - it has been out for
> months. Infact 1.16 has been out for months - although I still use 1.15
> - as I saw nothing in the changelog that affected CS.
Why should I have been running 1.15 vs. 1.13.1?
According to the great words of James Clark:
>> My 1.5 server was x.1.1.0 and it has been patched (build date is nice
>> and new).
>
> But it is now a x.1.1.1 server.
Great... I just patched and went up to x.1.1.1 and... segmentation fault,
oh yeah, metamod needs to be upgraded now too because Val
According to the great words of Simon Garner:
> For those that hadn't heard... looks like HL2 won't make September 30 :(
That's OK, I won't be buying it anyway. Valve won't get another cent from
me unless they show some responsibility in the future.
-Mad
--
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a pr
According to the great words of JC | KrUCiaL | Gamerezo.com:
> I have a problem with my servers today. Many of them crashes (not really
> a crash because hlds is still running, but server in unreachable).
> It appears on differents machines, with different servers and i really
> don't understand wh
According to the great words of Tyler \Overkill\ Schwend:
> I do not consider the individual who submitted this bug to be a
> responsible person.
>
> I do not support any of these "security consultants" that release
> bugs like this publicly. EVER.
He released it to make Valve act. There were no d
According to the great words of James Couzens:
> I don't mean to rake you over the coals if its you in charge of fixing
> this alfred
Why not? The vulnerability was posted months ago. There should have been
an urgent patch released within days. All the developers at Valve should
be ashamed for not
According to the great words of Deacon:
> Tony Di Schino wrote:
>> why does every topic on this list go to hell so painfully?
>
> There's a Mark Brown, Jeremy Brooking, Britty Priddy, and others on
> every list out there.
I'm offended that you forgot me. I'll have to be a bigger pain in the ass
i
According to the great words of PZGN:
> That's ok - I know it's a Cisco MAC Address - but I have to stop here -
> I'm not going to be the guy that spills out the fire on how things are
> done behind the scenes. We can leave it at, "I have no idea what I'm
> talking about" - or "I'm wrong and a wan
According to the great words of Florian Zschocke:
> Well, then excuse me for being a nitpicker but since this subject is
> infested with too much half-truths and incomplete facts, I thought it
> was worth pointing out that this statement wasn't a bit unprecise. :) No
> offence.
Since we're maximiz
According to the great words of PZGN:
> Ok - to clear the confusion - this is done by spoofing and placing
> yourself on that local segment - and you can obtain any MAC address you
> are able to connect to - note I pulled the MAC of the IP of the guy that
> asked me to look at it - this was done by
According to the great words of Simon Garner:
> I can't really see them caring too much about
> some kid stealing the rcon password for some other kid's l33t cs
> server...
Depends on what was hacked and what other stuff is in the server farm.
Maybe an e-commerce website? Cusomer information? Alt
According to the great words of BoneDaddy13:
> try as i might, podbot for linux is just too unstable. any
> recommendations for a bot program to run on a linux server.
What game?
-Mad
--
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proof. And when you have a good proof,
According to the great words of tremens:
> You can play around with the sv_airaccelerate setting and you can pretty
> much remove bhopping. Problem is, is that it pretty much destroys
> rocket-jumping also :/
And that's a problem? Wow... a game where people play and stay on the
ground! What an ide
According to the great words of Jan Brunner:
> To make it short: It's not possible anymore to get a real speed
> advantage by bunny hopping, so there's no need to ban those hoppers.
I see an easy 30-40% increase in speed by some people on my TFC server.
Perhaps some of the brakes aren't in place i
> Any way to have the same server be connectable at 2 ips? I am not
> talking about same install instance running 2 separate servers at
> different ip's, I mean one server showing up and be connectable from 2
> ips.
I thought it will by default bind to all nics, and if your nic is aliased,
to all
According to the great words of PZGN:
> IIRC?
If I remember correctly.
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According to the great words of Tyler \Overkill\ Schwend:
> How about The client is for Windows. Wine is a hack. Your
> "Some anti-cheat test is locking up wine..." statement seems a
> little accusing. You're lucky that they give a SHIT about Wine.
> HalfLife is a Win32 program. Always has been
According to the great words of Kevin J. Anderson:
> I thought "wow, the world is going mad all at once"
I thought it was just me...
-Mad
--
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proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."
According to the great words of Deacon:
> Remember, CPU usage increases almost exponentially for every extra 2
> slots over 12 or 14.
Even below 12, it increases exponentially as you add players, it's just
that it is so low that it's not really noticable.
-Mad
--
"A proof is a proof. What kind o
According to the great words of Serpent:
>> I am planning to buy 3 new servers, but befor i blow all my money on
>> them (or my boss').
>> Which hardware is best in price / performance at the moment?
>> P4, AMD ? Dual? not dual?
>> which boards?
>> dell / hp servers?
>
> Dual AMD with tyan motherbo
According to the great words of [TD]MoD:
> mp_chattime
Thanks, that did the trick. Silly me, I was searching the commands for
"score", "show", "min", "max"... all with no luck.
-Mad
--
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proof. And when you have a good proof, i
I seem to remember that we used to be able to set a minimum time that the
score screen would stay up. I know by default it will be 2 minutes or
until somebody does something. Is there still a way to make a minimum time
(e.g. one minute) so that even if somebody fires it will stay up? I can't
find a
According to the great words of Philip Lorenz:
> #2 I am just waiting for you to claim there is a start button in KDE
> with the windows logo.
You're thinking of fvwm :P
A screenshot for those who don't have a clue:
http://www.fvwm.org/screenshots/Mikhael-desk-1280x1024.php
-Mad
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"A proof is
According to the great words of Stefan Huszics:
> #1 There is no autoexec.bat by default in Linux hlds, but what is
> stopping you from creating one? And if you have one it will autoexecute
> just as on Windows. If you are going to make a snotty remark, at least
> make sure you know what you are ta
According to the great words of Kevin J. Anderson:
> As to why wasn't it released? sigh. other server releases, valve gets
> absolutely flamed for releasing something buggy, now they are getting
> flamed for not releasing something, and rather doing more testing...
The flame wasn't about not rel
According to the great words of kama:
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, jerzy szczudlowski wrote:
>> Rene Luckow wrote:
>>> I mean, I know its better, but would it increase my servers
>>> performance?
>>
>> ReiserFS
>> is especially good for *many* small files in single directory, like in
>> news server spool
According to the great words of Vibol Hou:
> Every now and then, my HLDS (linux) stops being able to write files to
> the drive. I'm not sure why this is happening, and I know for certain
> that it's not a permissions problem because it works fine when I
> manually quit hlds and immediately restar
According to the great words of DaiTengu:
> agenthh wrote:
>> Do I dare to ask:
>> What exactly happened to this version?
>> I am unable to find it on the site.
>>
> It's still quite there ... one of our mirrors didn't update correctly,
> so it's been pulled out of the DNS ... try any of the follo
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