One way to increase the likelihood that you will get a warm greeting
when you offer to play duets spontaneously is to have digitized duets
with you on a flash drive or on a camera chip wherever you go. You or
your host will probably have a computer, and if the duets are written
with both parts
Bill Gross wrote:
That was a test and only a test. Had it been a real message there would
have been something to read.
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From: horn-bounces+william.s.gross=gmail@music.memphis.edu
[mailto:horn-bounces+william.s.gross=gmail@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf
Of Gary
Not quite ready to let this go yet - I remember seeing the same in
English, in regard to James Hook, English composer, 1746-1827, where he
was depersonalized to "Mr. Hook". I have long enjoyed his Terzetto for
3 recorders (SST) for horn trio, then I discovered that it is #1 of six
trii, op.83
an is rudimentary at best, but means
Klaus
--- On Fri, 7/3/09, David Goldberg wrote:
From: David Goldberg
Subject: [Hornlist] Hobo duets
To: "The Horn List"
Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 6:42 PM
Cruising IMSLP netted an interesting piece - a 3-page duet for two oboes by
Alessandro
Cruising IMSLP netted an interesting piece - a 3-page duet for two oboes
by Alessandro Besozzi:
http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/0/03/IMSLP32512-PMLP74087-Besozzi_Duetto_2Ob_4593552.pdf
Despite the designation for oboes, these duets fit pretty well for two
horns when transposed to C, and
Good sleuthing, Klaus! I googled "Let op u saeck" and found this:
http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/duys001oude02_01/duys001oude02_01_0211.htm
David G
Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
In another context we touched upon the Israeli hymn
Hatikva being inspired by Smetana’s Moldau. I unloaded old trivia
It's a fine semantic point, whether "compositions for orchestra" implies
for only orchestra, thus making it necessary for Bob to specify concerti
as exceptions which he wants to also count. But words mean what we want
them to mean. "We" in this case, means "Bob". So maybe Bob wants us to
str
Slightly off-topic - I picked up a Czech CD in Prague a few years ago,
"Moje ceska vlast" (omitting some diacritical marks) - 18 tracks of very
fun indigenous oompah band music. No standard french horns here, but
there are several sizes of Wagner tuba-shaped horns in the band (The
South Bohemi
Carol & Steve Hosmer wrote:
What are soprano-horn duets other than Auf Dem Strom?
Alphorn, by Richard Strauss.
Both Alphorn and Auf Dem Strom sound pretty good with flute playing the
voice part, and Auf is interesting with a 2nd horn playing the voice part.
IMO, Auf Dem Strom sounds a lo
g-gulp. My passive-aggressive modus operandi de jour did not allow me
to pursue the transaction to that point. Better to not care what
shehehimher thought about it. Of course, that could have been different
if I had ruined her valve.
Carlberg Jones wrote:
At 4:31 PM -0400 6/25/09, David
Here's a case - many years ago I was playing 2nd in a production of
Camelot - you know, the triple horn concerto with cast accompaniment -
the 1st horniste was an undergrad university student, a fine player.
Toward the end of act I her 2nd valve began to stick seriously and she
was distraught
James Maddrey wrote:
" the reflected frequency is higher nearer the tip of the blade."
Wrong!
The tip of the blade is revolving at the same rate as the other end.
Both ends revolve at the same frequency.
youngjim
But the tip travels faster than points nearer the center of rotation,
m
Very able analyses so far, with creative thoughts for acts of
retribution designed to eliminate repetition of the untoward event.
It would be instructional to build an anecdotal record of such
incidents, including contributory factors. A veteran of many tight
pits, I have been both bumper and
Simon Varnam wrote:
from: David Goldberg
subject: Re: [Hornlist] trios for three horns
Bill Gross wrote:
I think the Reicha's may even be available on-line.
Yes, 24 Horn Trios op.82 at:
http://imslp.org/wiki/24_Horn_Trios%2C_Op.82_(Reicha%2C_Anton)
Thanks, David!
Bill Gross wrote:
I think the Reicha's may even be available on-line.
Yes, 24 Horn Trios op.82 at:
http://imslp.org/wiki/24_Horn_Trios%2C_Op.82_(Reicha%2C_Anton)
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an mp3 of a clarinetist playing all 3 parts.
I don't have the 3-horn transcription handy, but I think that it's
identical, only transposed down to C.
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Steve Burian wrote:
RE: Metronome "Scale"
Take the first 17 numbers:
40 42 44 46 48 50 52 54 56 58 60 63 66 69 72 76 80
Notice that they count by twos from 40 to 60. Then by threes. Since 60-80 can't
be divided evenly by threes he (Maelzel?) fudged by counting fours at the end.
"fudged" m
If you are in a moving train with your metronome set at 66, how fast
does the train have to go, and which way, so that a stationary observer
measures 63? How could you and the stationary observer play a duet?
Would one of you have to transpose? If so, to what key? What kind of
mouthpiece sh
This guy puts everything he has into his rhythm - a good lesson for us
chair-bound players.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJOZp2ZftCw
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Giovanni Battista Venturi:
Brilliant physicist, hardly obscuri;
You can't be a boob
To name an Effect, Pump and Tube
And that's the end of the sturi.
John Kowalchuk wrote:
Veering ever so close to NHR territory, I would suspect that since it is a
proper name, Venturi should remain intact.
John
is so? A couple of internet references mention it,
but they are doubtful and unsupported. If it is so, I wonder where he
got the ice.
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http://www.seventhstring.com/metronome/metronome.html
Free, if you need it only simulated on computer.
And at the bottom of the page you will find their virtual tuner and virtual
tuning fork.
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Lawrence Yates wrote:
Yes, I'm afraid we use abbreviations in the UK too.
All over the UK? Northern United Kingdom and Southern United Kingdom?
Uh, NUK & SUK?
Northern London - No LUK?
Newcastle-Upon-Tyne Symphony Orchestra - NUTSO
Italian restaurant in Birmingham - Pasta BUK?
I'm afr
or folks of Southern Ohio or
Southern Oregon call their Symphony Orchestra for short?
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And equally good that the 4-year-old orchestra in my neighboring town of
Dexter, Michigan (population about 4000) calls itself the DCO: Dexter
Community Orchestra. Contemplate the confusion.
http://www.dextercommunityorchestra.org/
David Goldberg
Bill Gross wrote:
Good think Dayton doesn&#
Neat stuff!
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ches seems clunky - but isn't that what 'high tolerance' means? 'Low
tolerance' is more precise than 'high tolerance', isn't it?
David Goldberg
Steve Freides wrote:
You have to wonder - this ebay seller has excellent feedback scores,
but this is their descr
Is this really all original research? I thought that Schilke
Instrumental Technology studies began this research many years ago.
David Goldberg
jerryol...@aol.com wrote:
Hi Kendall,
I did some research a few years ago with a program
called French Horn Acoustic Research Tool. It
This comment inspired me to go to Google Books to look for it. Check
this out: Google has digitized the book (I searched for the author,
Morley-Pegge), and copies came up, but it is not available to download
in full pdf form or even preview or snippet views - too bad. But click
on one of the
Try: http://used.addall.com/
This site searches a bunch of book sellers in a few seconds. I just
entered 'morley-pegge' in the author space and some copies came up.
There may be a competing book by him, "French Horn (Instruments of
Orchestra S.)" What's that? But lower down, you will find
or contact Steve Lewis in Chicago. He worked with Jerry Lechniuk way
back then. Steve makes, repairs, appraises horns.
S W Lewis Orchestral Horns
(773) 348-1112
1770 W Berteau Ave Fl 3, Chicago, IL 60613-1849
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All we like sheep???
Maybe you mean: Sheep May Safely Grease
I tried Bag Balm only once. In a few days, my horn stunkith mightily
and I had to clean it out else I swoon.
David Goldberg
Steven Mumford wrote:
I dunno, I've been using anhydrous lanolin since 1975. My horn doesn&#x
http://videos.komando.com/2009/01/27/sweet-georgia-brown/
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Unusual version!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESe-AysF9mw
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Funny picture of a brass instrument - not a french horn - on
http://www.woot.com/ today. If you don't know woot - they sell one
thing every day; to see this you have only until 1am Tuesday morning.
David G
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Addendum to my post a few minutes ago - further searching turns up a
most amusing connection between (french) horn and hornpipes:
http://emfinstitute.emf.org/exhibits/mummahornpipe.html
I also found another site that has an extensive downloadable trove of
sheet music:
http://www.oldmusicproj
d on this site by doing an
image-google search on the word 'hornpipe'. Try it - you will see many
images of playable music. There may well be other extensive sites like
this one.
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abstinence to cure. I'm sorry to have to avoid it - it's a
real whizbang wake-up. Possibly cinnamon-based foods could play havoc
also. Dunno.
David Goldberg
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ad wag hornist, violinist, flutist...
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yours. All this on a little chip
smaller than the crud cake in your mouthpiece. What a world!
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each other and learn to accommodate to the wiggly piano playing as
best we could.
David Goldberg
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In a message dated 19/11/2008 23:24:39 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Indeed! But the piano part is the hardest, next the violin, and least
hard is the
to_No.15_K.287.pdf
but this is the score only, not instrument parts. The horns are not
soloists as in a double horn concerto, but the parts in their supporting
roles are prominent and not trivial - not your usual drone to keep the
strings in tune.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27099954/
Judge sentences rap fan to Bach, Beethoven
Man refuses offer to reduce fine in exchange for tuning into classical
music
Associated Press
updated 11:08 a.m. ET, Thurs., Oct. 9, 2008
URBANA, Ohio - A defendant had a hard time facing the music.
Andrew Vact
umbed down on our behalf. Get the real thing -
erase where it says 'Oboe' or 'Flute 2', and write in 'Horn in C'.
David Goldberg
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addresses from this list, and others here got it too, I
suggest that you delete the whole thing without opening the attachment.
Sorry for this NHR, especially if the horn list is not the source.
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oyed and learned from Kopprasch for 10 or 40 years
already, treat yourself to a dose of the real thing.
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trio fanfares
(CEG---GGGFG---), there is a very slow, poignant horn-o'-fate moment for
1st when Lancelot prays over Sir Gawain's dead body to bring him back to
life. Your fate hangs in the balance here too...
David Goldberg
Dan Phillips wrote:
On Sep 13, 2008, at 9:45 AM, Willi
other hand, the loose cannons often fail to get tenure.
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This is NHR really, unless you care to think what a lyrical yet
overbearing horn player might be capable of. I once played a WW quintet
session in someone's living room and a neighbor called the cops.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1038603
David Gol
Fu:rst-Pless horn, but that one is right-handed and takes a trumpet mpc.
David Goldberg, wants one
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hen her year will have been well-spent.
The above curmudgeonly opinions are a result of my copious free time
here away from it all in Tempe AZ. If anyone around here would invite
me to play duets or other within the next almost two weeks, I will be
less tempted to beat this dead horse.
Dav
Grazie a Daniel for pointing us to this elegant Bach Brandenburg #2.
Well played and photographed, and the standing horns do not overly
dominate. I like how the 1st hornist squeezes his eyes closed when
there is a trill coming. I will try that.
David Goldberg
Daniel Canarutto wrote
. I had a math student once who could
not use a circle-drawing compass due to not being able to control his
muscles. I have students frequently who use a pencil with obvious tension.
David Goldberg
Alon reuven wrote:
Hi all ,
I have a young student who is extremly tensed when she plays the h
grueling session, you can hurt your lip or fatigue it so that
the next day it's stiff, but you can't fatigue or hurt your breath, can
you? So how do you explain having a bad breath day? Jokes aside, I mean.
David Goldberg
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Ashley wrote:
Was it jealous?
Embouchure it was.
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"Time flies when you're having
fun."
David Goldberg
John Roberts-James wrote:
In order to clear the room of flies
and better understand its mysteries,
I have recently taken up the trombone.
A most surprising response, I find that after
a short trombone session, my horn play
And Valerie originally asked:
"Can anyone please tell me how many horns Peter & the Wolf is scored for?"
So it looks like it comes to this: it depends on what the meaning of the
word "is" is. So much stuff dead-ends right here. Thanks, Bill.
David Goldberg
D
'Camelot' has three horns. Usually classed as a musical, but really
it's a concerto for three horns with some vocal moments.
David Goldberg
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rst hit is good enough:
*www.horn-u-copia.net/.../YaBB.pl?num=1124853015
<http://www.horn-u-copia.net/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1124853015>*
but if you do the image search, your screen will strewn with these uh,
instruments.
David Goldberg
Tim Kecherson wrote:
Hello again.
I am a membe
Or do a google image search on 'saxhorn' to see lots of critters like
this, and visit http://www.dodworth.org/ to see Michigan's very own
Dodworth Saxhorn Band, and some history.
David Goldberg
Jerry Houston wrote:
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It is a tenor horn, somewhat like
for our collective benefit is to liberate the
Georg Freidrich Fuchs quartets for 2 horns, 2 clarinets. I e'd the
Biblioteque Nationale de France, but no response yet. It is possible
that it deserves to remain obscure, but judging from his hn/cl duets,
they should be much fun.
David Gol
on't remember the Mozart Cassazione. Amazon
seems to be down just now(!) so I can't get a sound sample of the Mozart
to compare with Lickl-Pichl.
On a side note, I stumbled on another interesting website with lots of
links: http://www.music.ucsb.edu/projects/csms/ , the Czec
o the composer of a set of quartets for 2 horns
and 2 clarinets. It is listed in the Biblioteque Nationale de France
online catalog: http://www.bnf.fr/ and it looks like it ought to be
digitized and available for downloading, but perhaps not - I can't see
how to do it. Help?
Davi
ts infancy. Might be worth a glance, possibly a contribution.
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Check out the Boucard duet for flute and horn, Suite Champetre - it
should sound ok with violin in for flute.
Stretching the susceptible literature a bit more, there are lots of
violin duets - Pleyel wrote many - in which a horn can play either line.
David Goldberg
See the video below for a possible future of do-it-yourself mpc manufacture:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=39VJP671LDY
also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0m1cVqNsRA&NR=1
and there are other whizbang videos here.
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better.
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Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
How this happened I don't know, but thie posting obviously was for the recorder
list.
Sorry for wasting your time!
Klaus
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Thanks fo
well, laughing matter. It's more like a seizure.
David Goldberg
Linda wrote:
Drinking water (or other gulpable liquid) while holding one's breath is
supposed to work
(`'•.¸(`'•.¸ ~ ¸.•'´)¸.
Now suppose that at the same moment your mouthpiece falls out...
and your cell phone rings...
and the seat of your pants splits...
Pleasant dreams tonight, all!
David Goldberg
James Maddrey wrote:
Now, suppose that two valves acted up. You would be up the proverbial
creek without a paddle
thing?
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1st movt, Allegro: Ich Baue Ganz (in Eb)
2nd movt, Larghetto: Dies Bildnis ist bezaubernd schoen (in Eb)
3rd movt, Allegretto: Ah! lo veggio quell' anima bella (Bb)
You can find various renditions of these on YouTube.
David Goldberg
Eric James wrote:
Interestingly enough, the song &qu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkJ03vm8FJk
Do we ever do anything like this? Is this properly called a duet?
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well, bon voyage. You might need to write out a thematic/instrumental
cue for a wake-up call within the last maybe 20 bars - a warning long
enough to fully regain consciousness. Surely there is some
recognizable musical event to notice.
Ask the trombones or trumpets how they stay consciou
these performances are among
the best
our orchestra has ever achieved.
Best wishes to all,
Dianne Winsor
Valladolid, Spain
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Jeremy Cucco wrote:
A real euphonium player would know better than to do it at all.
any real eupher player would it in horn range
On the bright side, the sound of the euphonium is so muted that you
could use this performance as a music-minus-one accompaniment for yourself.
David G
that might
inspire any musician to look within and reconsider what notes are and
what can be done with them. Even on a french horn; which is why I don't
label this message NHR. Can you imagine pulling off a solo like this
for a recital?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJg5Op5W7yw
Davi
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[re killer licks]... If any of you have additional suggestions or refinements
to add, I'm all ears. Thanks.
Practice fast killer licks faster than you need to play them. Practice
slow killer licks slower than you need to play them.
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too.
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ppy fluting to you all,
Vieri
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This thread came up after I recommended various pieces that hornists can
play with other instruments, in their original form. Only one of the
suggestions was a transcription. The differences between playing a
transcription v. playing an original part for an alien instrument are
perhaps not im
Walter Lewis wrote:
Greetings.
I can add a very nice work for Horn and Flute. It's a composition by Marcel
Bouchard entitled Champetre. It is a selection of movements. Since I do not
read French, I can't begin to tell you the names of the Movements, but they are
very playable and pleasant t
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David, why all these transcriptions as wee have original works: Duvernoy Frederic:
Trio no.1 Fl/Viol. - Hr - Pno, Emil Titl: Serenade for fl & hr and other pieces.
First, ditto what Carlberg said. To restrict ourselves to music that
doesn't have the word 'horn'
nd guitar. He wrote several of these, and they can be
downloaded free, but I don't remember where.
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connection, and boasts a nice photo of Dennis.
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is going to wreck this thread.
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go,
Cabbage
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Of course if you play the Brahms Trio on a valved horn, you don't have
to use the valves all the time or any of the time. Maybe a good test is
if perceptive listeners can tell when you do and when you don't use them.
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is owning a cork-borer. I have had mine for more than 40
years - I bought it without valve cork repair in mind; it's a handy, if
NHR tool once in a while.
Good grief guys, back off.
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If you google "cork borers" or "cork borer set", lots of websites will
turn up that sell cork borer sets - they cost about $20, more or less.
With the right diameter cork borer, you will become independent of valve
bumper suppliers. You can make your own bumpers using cork, neoprene,
automob
.
That reminds me (very little) of when
I bought a wooden whistle,
But it wooden whistle.
So I bought a lead whistle,
But it wooden lead me whistle.
So I bought a steel whistle,
But it steel wooden lead me whistle.
So I bought a tin whistle,
And now I tin whistle!
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Here's good practice for blending your low chops with your high chops:
Kopprasch #23, #56, #32.
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Hunt,Thomas wrote:
In Eb?
It is in E!!
Tom in iowa
That depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
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It's Beethoven's 237th birthday!
http://www.lvbeethoven.com/Curiosites/HappyBirthday.html
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All I want to say is, "Featherstoneshaugh".? Try spelling it if you've only
ever heard it, or pronouncing it correctly if you've only ever seen it written and not
heard it spoken.
pronounced: "French horn".
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ttas have some.
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aining the
pitch; the pressure decreases and increases, and so does the volume.
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iable source.
1 Samuel 16:1 sez:
The LORD said to Samuel: "How long will you grieve for Saul, whom I have
rejected as king of Israel? Fill your horn with oil, and be on your way. ...
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hat isn't
used to pressure, and releases pressure from tissue that is used to
pressure and is now inside the mp getting vibrated violently - all this
while your lip is too tired to resist its new assignments. That can't
be good.
There are other specific behaviors that can lead
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