RE: [Hornlist] Mozart 4

2008-12-22 Thread Robert Dickow
By all means start at the real solo. Many classical concertos for various instruments often have bits of 'warm up' or even doubled section parts before the formal thematic solo statements. The 4th Concerto of Mozart's has quite a bit of that stuff at the opening, but it would be a bit tedious to li

[Hornlist] Mozart 4

2008-12-22 Thread S S
Hi list, When one is asked to play the exposition of Mozart 4 in an audition situation, do you start with the first "real" solo phrase (D-Bb-Eb, etc) or the whole notes that begin what I think is actually the exposition (Bb-D-F, etc). Thanks! Steve _

[Hornlist] Mozart & Leutgeb

2008-05-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello all- I wanted to say thanks to all who responded to my inquiry. I have ordered Jasper Rees' book, and my library jot got 'Das Horn bei Mozart' in this morning. In response to Gary Green, I do realize how difficult from a musical-historical point of view it is to accurately understand pe

[Hornlist] Mozart & Leutgeb

2008-05-08 Thread Gary Greene
000From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Hornlist] Mozart & LeutgebHello Listers - = I am currently doing a short research project for a music history class.=I've chosen to briefly investigate the relationship between Mozart and =Leutgeb. I am writing to ask if anyone out there know of any good source=s

[Hornlist] Mozart & Leutgeb

2008-05-07 Thread Jasper Rees
At the risk of sounding my own horn, I can't resist jumping in on this one. As Kendall and one or two other listers know, I have recently published a book in the UK entitled I Found My Horn. I'm happy to explain precisely what else the book contains in greater detail to anyone who's interested,

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart & Leutgeb

2008-05-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David, there is not much info on this topic. We have the living dates of Leutgeb, the inserts of his name into the K.447, Mozarts own listing of his works with the remarks "Leitgebisches Quintett" (K407) & "Ein Waldhornkonzert fuer Leitgeb" (K495, some remarks in Mozart biographies (Jahn, perhap

[Hornlist] Mozart & Leutgeb

2008-05-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Listers - I am currently doing a short research project for a music history class. I've chosen to briefly investigate the relationship between Mozart and Leutgeb. I am writing to ask if anyone out there know of any good sources for information. I have "Horn", by Barry Tuckwell, and it h

[Hornlist] Mozart Horn Concertos

2008-04-26 Thread Anne Megenity
My vote goes to Herman Baumann's recordings, the Mozart and Strauss,also. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Concertos

2008-04-25 Thread Adam Black
I think we should accept that there are many great players. What we each prefer is largely a matter of personal taste. For me, I could listen to Radovan Vlatkovic all day. Adam Black> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:39:02 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: horn@music.memphis.edu> Subjec

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Concertos

2008-04-25 Thread Paul Rincon
Brain & Michael Hoeltzel ! > > > == > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:horn-bounces+hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > Behalf Of Tim Kecherson > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 5:39 AM > To: Hornlist > Subject: [Horn

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Concertos

2008-04-24 Thread hans
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 5:39 AM To: Hornlist Subject: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Concertos Hello All (again) I have been listening to the Mozart Horn Concertos recently, as I will be playing one of the movements (probably the second concerto, movement III) in a June recital. I have now listene

[Hornlist] Mozart Horn Concertos

2008-04-24 Thread John Dutton
[quote] And so, my question: Who do you think is the best player of those three? [/quote] You have got to be kidding me. Tuckwell was principal horn of many orchestras and recorded the Mozart concerti on at least five occasions (let alone all his other recordings). Dale Clevenger has spent 42 ye

[Hornlist] Mozart Horn Concertos

2008-04-24 Thread Tim Kecherson
Hello All (again) I have been listening to the Mozart Horn Concertos recently, as I will be playing one of the movements (probably the second concerto, movement III) in a June recital. I have now listened to three recordings of these concertos, and I have an opinion-based question. I have he

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Duets - transcribed for trumpet and horn, and using baritone clef

2008-02-11 Thread Eric James
s not uncommon. Eric James - Original Message From: Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: The Horn List Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:14:21 PM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Duets - transcribed for trumpet and horn, and using baritone clef I have no clue, which

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Duets - transcribed for trumpet and horn, and using baritone clef

2008-02-10 Thread Steve Freides
> -Original Message- > From: Jay Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:55 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Duets - transcribed for > trumpet and horn,and using baritone clef > > On Feb 10, 200

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Duets - transcribed for trumpet and horn, and using baritone clef

2008-02-10 Thread Jay Anderson
On Feb 10, 2008 7:14 PM, Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have no clue, which is why I asked, Dan. There is baritone clef in other > parts of this addition as well, e.g., #3. If that's really a typo, I find > it hard to imagine, as most music publishing software would make you go out

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Duets - transcribed for trumpet and horn, and using baritone clef

2008-02-10 Thread Steve Freides
Message- > From: Dan Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 8:51 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Duets - transcribed for > trumpet and horn,and using baritone clef > > > On Feb 10, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Steve Freides

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Horn Duets - transcribed for trumpet and horn, and using baritone clef

2008-02-10 Thread Dan Phillips
On Feb 10, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Steve Freides wrote: The French Horn part switches to baritone clef at this point Did you REALLY think baritone clef is what was intended? ;-) It's a misprint. It should be bass clef, and the parts are in octaves. Dan Dan Phillips Associat

[Hornlist] Mozart Horn Duets - transcribed for trumpet and horn, and using baritone clef

2008-02-10 Thread Steve Freides
OK, here's my situation: 1. I don't know the Mozart horn duets in their original form. I heard them once in a concert but I've never played them. 2. I bought a transcription, edited by C. J. Maxwell and published by Pelican Music, of these same duets, for trumpet and horn. Perfect for me and

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto #3

2008-02-02 Thread Paul Mansur
Ideally, I recommend that you listen to a few recordings and then get to work writing your own cadenza. It's good experience and will teach you a lot about Mozart's style in his concertos. The cadenza should be your own improvisation. Paul Mansur On Feb 1, 2008, at 10:14 PM, Tim Kechers

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto #3

2008-02-02 Thread Ben Reidhead
--- "Richard V. West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tim Kecherson wrote: > > I am playing Mozart's 3rd Horn Concerto in June, > and I am looking for a cadenza to play. Is the > cadenza necessary? If so, where can I find one? > Thank you very much. > > > > -- > > Timothy Kecherson > > > In th

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto #3

2008-02-01 Thread hans
f Of Richard V. West Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 5:10 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto #3 Tim Kecherson wrote: > I am playing Mozart's 3rd Horn Concerto in June, and I am looking for a cadenza to play. Is the cadenza necessary? If so, where can I find one? Th

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto #3

2008-02-01 Thread David Lamb
Richard West notes: A long time ago, Christopher Leuba (I think) transcribed all the cadenzas which up to that time had been recorded (late 60s? early 70s?) for the various Mozart concerti. They were published in a magazine like the "Instrumentalist" but my memory is very hazy about this (it's

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto #3

2008-02-01 Thread Richard V. West
Tim Kecherson wrote: I am playing Mozart's 3rd Horn Concerto in June, and I am looking for a cadenza to play. Is the cadenza necessary? If so, where can I find one? Thank you very much. -- Timothy Kecherson In the first movement, absolutely. It doesn't have to be long. Listen to as many

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Concerto #3

2008-02-01 Thread Eric Egle
Write your own. Tim Kecherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am playing Mozart's 3rd Horn Concerto in June, and I am looking for a cadenza to play. Is the cadenza necessary? If so, where can I find one? Thank you very much. -- Timothy Kecherson ___

[Hornlist] Mozart Concerto #3

2008-02-01 Thread Tim Kecherson
I am playing Mozart's 3rd Horn Concerto in June, and I am looking for a cadenza to play. Is the cadenza necessary? If so, where can I find one? Thank you very much. -- Timothy Kecherson ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at

[Hornlist] Mozart Quintet

2007-12-21 Thread John Schreckengost
Howard, The bassoonist was a colleague of mine when I was principal horn in the Israel Sinfonietta. He was principal bassoon. My best guess is that the YouTube link is of a performance at the 2005 Jerusalem International Chamber Music Festival. The personnel listed matches those in the perf

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Requeim

2007-10-23 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
I have recounted the tale here before of the days (yes, it happened more than once) that I was booked to play a concert with a freelance orchestra. I repeat it to encourage the newbies. At the start of the rehearsal I asked for the horn parts of the two pieces I did not know. There were n

[Hornlist] Mozart Requeim

2007-10-23 Thread Timothy F. Thompson, D.M.A.
I fall into a not-unheard-of-but-pretty-rare category of horn players who have played the Mozart Requeim. (Those who know the instrumentation well can guess the jist of this story, but I'll tell it anyway). As a college student I got a call to play the Mozart. I told my horn teacher about

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-22 Thread Jonell Lindholm
This message from David Thompson (http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/horn/message/34240) states that "... we recently acquired the internet distribution of the Kalmus publications via kalmus.com" >= Original Message From "Michiel van der Linden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >I thought Kalmus

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-22 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Aren't there two Kalmuses (Kalmii?) - Edwin and the other one. Cheers, Lawrence ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-22 Thread Michiel van der Linden
I thought Kalmus was bought by Thompson because of this: http://www.kalmus.com/ I now see there's also a site www.kalmus-music.com though... Sorry, I jumped to conclusions 2007/10/22, BVD Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > >Kalmus /is/ Thompson Edition ;) > > > > > ?? > > Kalmus bought Thompson?

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-22 Thread BVD Press
Kalmus /is/ Thompson Edition ;) ?? Kalmus bought Thompson??? Thompson bought Kalmus??? -- Bryan Doughty BVD Press and Cimarron Music Press 79 Meetinghouse Lane Ledyard, CT 06339 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 860 536-2185 http://www.bvdpress.com/ http://www.cimarronmusic.com/ __

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-22 Thread Russ Smiley
ED] On Behalf Of David Jewell Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:54 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj Hi folks - just for information's sake, all of the free score websites that I have utilized, such as the imslp.org; cpdl.org; and mutopia

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-22 Thread Michiel van der Linden
Some of the free sites do indeed have seperate parts available, although you have to thoroughly check the quality. You can be pleasantly surptised, but I remember spending *a lot* of time getting some Tchaikowsky parts cleaned up for a performance last year. In retrospect just buying the set would'

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-21 Thread David Jewell
Hi folks - just for information's sake, all of the free score websites that I have utilized, such as the imslp.org; cpdl.org; and mutopiaproject.org; are scores only site. If I recall correctly, so is the Neue Mozart Ausgabe site, [which I can't seem to access right now]. This means that if yo

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-21 Thread Greg Campbell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The digitized facsimiles of the Neue Mozart-Ausgabe are freely available online at http://dme.mozarteum.at/ Isn't that just the score? Hmmm. I didn't even think about that. The site won't load for me right now anyway, but I bet you're right. Anyhow, the parts ar

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-21 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Nah, they were better than us - no point in making excuses, but our guys did well to get as far as they did - yeah, next time maybe. Cheers, lawrence lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http:/

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-21 Thread Bill Gross
tuation.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 4:16 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj You can get the score from the Mozart online

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-21 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 21/10/2007 23:05:59 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The digitized facsimiles of the Neue Mozart-Ausgabe are freely available online at http://dme.mozarteum.at/ Isn't that just the score? Cheers, Lawrence lawrenceyates.co.uk __

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-21 Thread Greg Campbell
Ellen Manthe wrote: I believe that you can get them free of charge from one of the internet music services. I saw them once and should have downloaded them but didn't. Now I will think about this constantly until I again have time to search for them again. There are orchestra parts for most of

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-21 Thread Russ Smiley
Try this: http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/make-table.cgi?Composer=MozartWA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellen Manthe Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 5:05 PM To: The Horn List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-21 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
You can get the score from the Mozart online something or other (I'll find the details if you really want them) but I don't think the parts were there. Cheers, Lawrence (proud of our lads in Paris last night and of the dignified way in which they conducted themselves) lawrenceyates.co.uk

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-21 Thread Ellen Manthe
I believe that you can get them free of charge from one of the internet music services. I saw them once and should have downloaded them but didn't. Now I will think about this constantly until I again have time to search for them again. There are orchestra parts for most of the Mozart horn concer

Re: [Hornlist] mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-21 Thread Daniel Canarutto
I have a student ready to perform mozart d maj on hand horn. Does anyone have the orchestra parts and score to sell, rent or lend. Please let me know at [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks Elliott L. Higgins, Hummingbird Music Camp, American Horn Competition International You should be able to get it fro

[Hornlist] mozart full orchestra parts concert 1 d maj

2007-10-21 Thread ehig
I have a student ready to perform mozart d maj on hand horn. Does anyone have the orchestra parts and score to sell, rent or lend. Please let me know at [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks Elliott L. Higgins, Hummingbird Music Camp, American Horn Competition International __

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Symphonies

2007-10-18 Thread Fred
#29 is my favorite of the Mozart symphonies. Actually, I've always preferred his piano concertos. Fred On 10/18/07, Graham Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi (again) > While I'm at it (I normally just lurk). > I was at a live concert a couple of weeks ago when the Swedish Chamber > orches

[Hornlist] Mozart Symphonies

2007-10-18 Thread Graham Jarvis
Hi (again) While I'm at it (I normally just lurk). I was at a live concert a couple of weeks ago when the Swedish Chamber orchestra (our local band!) played Mozart's "little" g-minor symphony (No 25 - K183 I think). I recall some discussion of this symphony on the list a while ago. The performan

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart, horns, Franz Strauss

2007-08-21 Thread hans
August 21, 2007 8:51 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Mozart, horns, Franz Strauss Re Mozart: Symphony No. 29 K. 201 is fun to play and a masterpiece. I have played it on a Bb/f descant, A natural Horn, and a F/Bb/f Triple as well as the 2nd part on a double, but not 250-500

[Hornlist] Mozart, horns, Franz Strauss

2007-08-21 Thread wkling
Re Mozart: Symphony No. 29 K. 201 is fun to play and a masterpiece. I have played it on a Bb/f descant, A natural Horn, and a F/Bb/f Triple as well as the 2nd part on a double, but not 250-500 times. What it really needs is a great 2nd Horn player who can match tone and tuning and nail the h

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A

2007-08-20 Thread hans
Jonathan, I studied Strauss 2 when I was seventeen - well, I studied it with the first performer, my teacher Gootfried von Freiberg (we spent just just two weeks with it, means two or thre lessons) and I played it in public at age 18, no near 19. My first performance with orchestra was 1964. This p

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A

2007-08-20 Thread Jonathan West
On 20/08/07, hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jonathan, you are absolutely right. Today´s young & less > young players are much better prepared - technically - than > we were or are, but they miss the music all too often or > completely. Everything needs to be "set up", nothing from > the heart, n

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A

2007-08-19 Thread hans
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan West Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 9:13 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A On 19/08/07, hans <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A

2007-08-19 Thread Jonathan West
On 19/08/07, hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is so difficult with this symphony ? I have received > several stories about it, that it is feared very much & horn > players are just happy when the horns are back in their > case. Yes, off course, it is a difficult piece, IF PLAYED ON > THE REGU

[Hornlist] Mozart Sinfonia no.29 in A

2007-08-19 Thread hans
What is so difficult with this symphony ? I have received several stories about it, that it is feared very much & horn players are just happy when the horns are back in their case. Yes, off course, it is a difficult piece, IF PLAYED ON THE REGULAR BIG HORNS. But this symphony - I nicknamed it "THE

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation?

2007-05-05 Thread hans
an issue. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:58 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation?

2007-05-04 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 05/05/2007 06:29:17 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The quintet version is another stupidity by a musical idiot & disgusting arranger. I think this is a bit harsh. Whilst I would prefer to play and hear the original, arrangements such as this do at lea

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation?

2007-05-04 Thread hans
List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation? Michiel van der Linden wrote: > If he's playing the original, prepare him for some delicate high > stuff. > The horns are in B flat alto, and with only 2 oboes and 2 bassoons you > haven't got much t

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation?

2007-05-04 Thread sotone
The recording of K. 270 with D. Brain is Anthony Baines's arrangement for WW quintet of the original sextet. In this version the horn part generally follows the original 2nd horn part and the clarinet plays much of the original 1st horn part. The flute and oboe are playing the oboe parts of th

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation?

2007-05-04 Thread Steve Freides
Michiel van der Linden wrote: > If he's playing the original, prepare him for some delicate > high stuff. > The horns are in B flat alto, and with only 2 oboes and 2 > bassoons you haven't got much to hide behind... > Here's a nice fragment on original instruments (Amazon > sample) http://ww

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation?

2007-05-04 Thread Steve Freides
> -Original Message- > From: Joe Scarpelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 3:20 PM > To: 'The Horn List' > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation? > > It is also included on the MMO - Woodwind QUINTETS

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation?

2007-05-04 Thread hans
The recording with Dennis Brain might be mislabelled in the CD catalogue missing one person (2nd horn). Why to need a recording ? Mozarts stuff is very simple to read & moves in the horns with very clear chords, but one has to read in different transpositions. It would be a very good exercise for y

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation?

2007-05-04 Thread Joe Scarpelli
hiel van der Linden Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 3:06 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation? If he's playing the original, prepare him for some delicate high stuff. The horns are in B flat alto, and with only 2 oboes and 2 bassoons you haven&#

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation?

2007-05-04 Thread Michiel van der Linden
If he's playing the original, prepare him for some delicate high stuff. The horns are in B flat alto, and with only 2 oboes and 2 bassoons you haven't got much to hide behind... Here's a nice fragment on original instruments (Amazon sample) http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B017MV001

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation?

2007-05-04 Thread Steve Freides
> -Original Message- > From: Eric James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:33 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation? > > Mozart never wrote a quintet of the type you mention. > K.270

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation?

2007-05-04 Thread Eric James
Mozart never wrote a quintet of the type you mention. K.270 was composed for 2 oboes, 2 bassoons and 2 horns. What your son is playing is someone's arrangement of Mozart's original. Eric James --- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This page > > http://www.edto.net/mozart_wind_ensemble

[Hornlist] Mozart Divertimento K. 270 - instrumentation?

2007-05-04 Thread Steve Freides
This page http://www.edto.net/mozart_wind_ensemble.htm says K. 270 is for 2 oboes, 2 bassoons, and 2 horns. This recording http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7255585&cart=533299893&style=c lassical says the same thing, but then goes on to list the performers as one each flute, clari

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart 1st is the 4th?

2007-05-04 Thread Carter, Jeffrey
inclusion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thu, 3 May 2007 10:53 PM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart 1st is the 4th? This is mere nonsense. Yes, these two movements of horn concertos in D were written later than the other three concertos. Wikipe

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart 1st is the 4th?

2007-05-04 Thread billbamberg
: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thu, 3 May 2007 10:53 PM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart 1st is the 4th? This is mere nonsense. Yes, these two movements of horn concertos in D were written later than the other three concertos. Wikipedia is not "the 100% truth". All hornconcertos , complete or

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart 1st is the 4th?

2007-05-04 Thread hans
ndoned sketch then. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard V. West Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 8:05 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart 1st is the 4th? Hasn't the second

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart 1st is the 4th?

2007-05-04 Thread Richard V. West
in D-major was intended for Leutgeb, off course, as Mozart used it to make some fun with Leutgeb. Here the ailing factor may have played a role, but not for the first Allegro. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf O

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart 1st is the 4th?

2007-05-03 Thread hans
b, off course, as Mozart used it to make some fun with Leutgeb. Here the ailing factor may have played a role, but not for the first Allegro. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bil

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart 1st is the 4th?

2007-05-03 Thread Bill Tyler
There are some good liner notes with Michael Thompson's recording of the complete works for horn and orchestra by Mozart. If I remember correctly, the "adjustment" that Mozart made in Leitgeb's declining abilities was in the range of the "1st" concerto, not in the hand technique. Bill Bill

[Hornlist] Mozart 1st is the 4th?

2007-05-03 Thread Bill Hollin
Anyone care to comment on this? I always found the 1st Concerto to be demanding in many ways, and it seems to me the hand-stopping technique required is greater in the 1st mvt. of K.412 than in some of the others.. Recent scholarship dates the horn concerti in the order 2, 3, 4, 1,

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-21 Thread Herbert Foster
You're absolutely right, Hans. Not having learned transpositions when I was young, I find transposition slow going. Rather than writing transpositions in the original music, which doesn't work well anyway, I write down the transposed notes on fresh staff paper. Usually, before I am finished, I have

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-20 Thread hans
ject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart On 1/20/07, hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If sneeze in on the way, he would stop drawing the lines. He did write > his music paper by himself when the right format was not available or > he ran out on money. Yes, many people do the music publi

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-20 Thread Steve Freides
> -Original Message- > From: hans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:41 PM > To: 'The Horn List' > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart > > Thank you, Steve, for your kind answer, but I must say it > frankly, I would n

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-20 Thread Steve Freides
> -Original Message- > From: Jay Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:26 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart > > On 1/20/07, hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If sneeze in on the way, he wo

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-20 Thread hans
Thank you, Steve, for your kind answer, but I must say it frankly, I would not "teach every student", but just those who deserve it & those of whom I think it would make sense. Did you ever consider retyping the solo part & just changing the key, the transposed part would be ready. And, in all ho

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-20 Thread Jay Anderson
On 1/20/07, hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If sneeze in on the way, he would stop drawing the lines. He did write his music paper by himself when the right format was not available or he ran out on money. Yes, many people do the music publishing on the desktop, so do I. But why then some musicia

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-20 Thread hans
8:54 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart hans wrote: > There is just one difficulty, where to find the right music paper ??? > Mozart himself had a solution. He used a five-fold pencil & made the > music paper by himself when the right one was not at hand.

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-20 Thread Steve Freides
anuary 20, 2007 2:10 PM > To: 'The Horn List' > Subject: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart > > Hello Steve, you know what we did back in the 1950ies ? We > had no other copy machine than hand & a pen & music paper. > So we copied the pieces by hand including the piano

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-20 Thread David Goldberg
hans wrote: There is just one difficulty, where to find the right music paper ??? Mozart himself had a solution. He used a five-fold pencil & made the music paper by himself when the right one was not at hand. I hope that Hans will forgive those of us who use Desktop publishing software to m

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-20 Thread hans
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:19 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart In a message dated 20/01/2007 19:11:27 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Wehad no other copy machine than hand & a pe

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-20 Thread hans
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gross Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:38 PM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart Hans, do you still write out parts by hand? I'm curious because my

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-20 Thread Bill Gross
: Saturday, January 20, 2007 1:10 PM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart Hello Steve, you know what we did back in the 1950ies ? We had no other copy machine than hand & a pen & music paper. So we copied the pieces by hand including the piano part & n

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-20 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 20/01/2007 19:11:27 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Wehad no other copy machine than hand & a pen & music paper. So we copied the pieces by hand" In a box somewhere upstairs I still have my hand-written copies of the Mozart concertos, copies I made by li

[Hornlist] Mozart solopart

2007-01-20 Thread hans
Hello Steve, you know what we did back in the 1950ies ? We had no other copy machine than hand & a pen & music paper. So we copied the pieces by hand including the piano part & necessary transpositions. We also transposed full piano parts. Work began very slow but grow to a full page per hour or mo

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Catalog Available Online

2006-12-21 Thread bgross
Oh a most zenophobic one, it blocks access to all newspaper pages outside the US. What is really amazing about this is they've issued me a web enabled Blackberry. If I copy the url from those blocked sites into my BB, I can pull them up just fine. I've having a little fun with this. The guys wh

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Catalog Available Online

2006-12-21 Thread Howard Sanner
Obviously a vile, subversive website. When I attempted to visit it a second a go I got the dreaded "Site Blocked" messsage. What branch of the government do you work for? I just visited the site from my computer at the office and had no trouble pulling up the full score of K. 417. I then for

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Catalog Available Online

2006-12-21 Thread Michiel van der Linden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: http://dme.mozarteum.at/mambo/index.php Obviously a vile, subversive website. When I attempted to visit it a second a go I got the dreaded "Site Blocked" messsage. Bill, I don't know who your ISP is, but you should change it asap. This is the official site

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Catalog Available Online

2006-12-21 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 21/12/2006 15:53:33 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Obviously a vile, subversive website. When I attempted to visit it a second a go I got the dreaded "Site Blocked" messsage." I belivwe that there has been a suggestion that Mozart was in possession of

Re: [Hornlist] Mozart Catalog Available Online

2006-12-21 Thread bgross
> http://dme.mozarteum.at/mambo/index.php Obviously a vile, subversive website. When I attempted to visit it a second a go I got the dreaded "Site Blocked" messsage. IN THE EVENT THAT ACCESS TO THIS WEB SITE IS REQUIRED IN THE PERFORMANCE OF OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT BUSINESS, PLEASE COMPLETE THE WEB

[Hornlist] Mozart Catalog Available Online

2006-12-21 Thread Margaret Dikel
Many apologies for the double-post, but just in case you had not yet seen this... (from the Associated Press) "Mozart maniacs, enthusiasts, students, and scholars can now access the immortal composer's entire catalog through a free online database, launched December 11, which contains more tha

[Hornlist] Mozart concerti

2006-04-13 Thread simon locke
Dear All I totally agree with Dr. Matlick, I could not have put it better myself. I have come to love the Mozart's as I have got older and now really enjoy playing them in concerts. The understanding Mozart has for the instrument is I think incredible. Listen to Alan Civil playing them and you

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart

2006-04-13 Thread Hans.Pizka
ion. The (alternating) Solo position is still vacant. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gross Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 9:48 PM To: 'The Horn List'

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart

2006-04-12 Thread Bill Gross
To like or not like Mozart, or other composers, doesn't this quotation seem appropriate? De gustibus non est disputandum. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] Mozart

2006-04-12 Thread Jim Price
Hans: To reenforce your comments, many years ago a wise person (I cannot remember whom) said that Mozart is too simple for children but much too difficult for adults. At 12:00 PM 4/10/2006, you wrote: date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:19:39 +0200 from: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject

[Hornlist] Mozart vs. Bach as greatest

2006-04-11 Thread rob
YES, IT's BACH Richard Burdick Steve wrote: Mozart is arguably the greatest composer to ever have walked the face of this Earth. For a musician not to like Mozart means only that the musician doesn't understand Mozart. Well, I agree with the second sentence completely but I think

RE: [Hornlist] Mozart

2006-04-11 Thread Joe Scarpelli
t: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart Has no one said it yet? TOO MANY NOTES! Sorry, flame me, or worse, ignore me, I am not original, but I had to say it. Anonymous!! >From: "Steve Freides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Horn List >To: "'The Horn List'" >S

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