Although that joke is "SOOO early 90's", I laughed anyway.
Chris
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> Can't we all just get along???
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Shame on you Leigh! Would you deprive us all of a good fight? My God, since
they shut down the Radcliffe cock-fighti
All in good fun, Hans, yes I see your point and I understand it, sorry list,
Hoss
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Can't we all just get along???
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grees. Let us not have to experience more breakdowns in civil
discourse but always upbuild the other person.
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Pizka)
> Date: 2003/10/20 Mon AM 11:19:35 CDT
> To: "'The Horn List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hoss and Hans
Bloody h*ll, this reoccurring head-butting battle for supremacy between
a new buck and an alpha buck is boring the cr*p out of the long-term,
less testosterone driven of the herd!
Maybe the both of you could stop beating the rest of us to death with
your respective banners. We've
Hoss wrote:
Does it matter if it is extreme? Sounds like you're running out of
Fascist support.
How is this "ending it nicely"? Identifying anyone with Fascism is the
opposite of "nice"you have to expect a not too pleasant response to
something like that
Fred
Are you really free in your country ??? Patriot act ?
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Regarding Thomas Quasthoff...
At 10:45 PM 10/19/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>He cannot perform in a staged opera due to his physical status.
Was he not in a staged version of Fidelio this past year in Salzburg,
or
was that concer
Having just enjoyed Playing the "Gurre-Lieder" and "Pelias and
Melisande" I just have to speak out.
YES I do enjoy Schönberg. Try Moses and Aron sometime, such wonderful
romantic music. I am surprised at you Hans! :-)
Francis
> On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 12:30 AM, Hans Pizka wrote:
Here Here!!
Francis
ps If you see your namesake Paul Evans, say Hi from me!
> Michael Scheimer, in relation to Hans Pizka, wrote:
>
> >If you really think that, I don't know how you ever survived playing
so
> > long because it would have been really tough telling all of those
> conducto
Regarding Thomas Quasthoff...
At 10:45 PM 10/19/2003 +0200, you wrote:
He cannot perform in a staged opera due to his physical status.
Was he not in a staged version of Fidelio this past year in Salzburg, or
was that concerted? I believe there was a concerted version in Berlin, but
I thought
Free country hans.Free country! Tried to end it nicely now I'm just
not going to respond!
Hoss
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, task,
whatever.
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I agree, but to discourage a beginni
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Hans is correct, talking about the 'extremes' does not usually help the
vast majority who are somewhere in the middle.
Ha
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Does it matter if it is extreme? Sounds like you're running out of
Fascist
support.
Hoss
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Clayton Whetmore, here:
Hans Pizka wrote:
Do you know the sentence "pearls before swine "
Oh what fun we can have, quoting proverbs! Do you know the sentence
"beast before beauty..."?
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Rudy is a true story thank you very much! Given it took place in a simpler
time but it was the truth! I was only pointing out the David vs. Galiath point
of the story. Moulin rouge was the most horrible piece of crap I've ever
seen in my life.and don't knock Bette Midler she's pretty hot
rtcomings which they cannot,
or have constant difficulty overcoming, maybe there are other avenues out
there which would be more fulfilling. Go ahead and give it your best, but
if you aren't getting anywhere, use your head.
Josh
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I agree, but to discourage a beginning player with a serious problem was very
harsh of Hans especially without having firsthand knowledge of the player in
question. Has everyone of us never had a major problem with our playing that
needed fixed? If our teachers and mentors discouraged us inste
Hans is correct, talking about the 'extremes' does not usually help the
vast majority who are somewhere in the middle.
Hans' views are realistic, and not discrimination - I am sure he would
acknowledge great playing by any person - even if the player was an 'extreme'.
Jay Kosta
Endwell NY USA
No
Does it matter if it is extreme? Sounds like you're running out of Fascist
support.
Hoss
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David Thompson wrote:
It often seems that is has never
occurred to the student to step back and view the work as a highly
Romantic and lyrical one, and to try focusing on playing long,
expressive lines, rather than concentrating on the short-term technical
challenges.
Isn't that really quite natur
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that reminds me of Thomas Quasthoff. Thomas Quasthoff is famous
baritone with
some physical deformities, but has made some great
That's interesting that you mention that, because I thought the same thing one
day in class listening to Verklerte Nacht. I listened to a decent amount of
the 2nd Viennese school this past year, as I took a class about Freud and Fin
De Siecle` Vienna (pardon that if it's horriblely missppeled), an
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about
at least.
Joe
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I suggest we all take a break from this bantering and watc
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>The
audience would starting laughing, special when he encounters the 6 feet
+ Bruennhilde of 150 pounds. His voice will not matter then. If he
wears high heels, he would walk on stag
Message text written by The Horn List
>The
audience would starting laughing, special when he encounters the 6 feet
+ Bruennhilde of 150 pounds. His voice will not matter then. If he
wears high heels, he would walk on stage quite comical & degrade to a
caricature of the role. But he might be very g
In a message dated 10/18/2003 2:29:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Very interesting, Hans. Schoenberg is one of those composers where you
> really
> appreciate his music once you start working on it. Most audience members
> never have the perspective of growing with t
Bob Ward wrote:
>I have realized that the key to having it sound right is to approach
>it and interpret it as a Romantic style, since that is the genesis of
>this genre of music. There are many more modern composers that I
>do think are excessively academic and largely devoid of emotional
>content
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Very interesting, Hans. Schoenberg is one of those composers where you
really
appreciate his music once you start working on it. Most audience members
never have the perspective of growing with the music, either, which is
mean they aren't going
to sell two million CDs of Stravinsky. Also, it's highly subject to personal
tastes anyways.
-William
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> Date: 10/18/200
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> I think that's also what is problematic with 'pop' music. It's manufactured
>
> (I'll save the word 'composed' for music that is deserving of the word) just
> so
> people will dance to it, or passivel
music from the inside, as it were, rather
than as a bystander.
-William
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ssively hear it. Seldom is popular music
actually listened to since compared to Bartok it is pretty much pathetic.
-William
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Schönberg was once asked by a critic why he wrote "ugly" music. His
reply:
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> Approach everything as if it were great music. Someday you might get
> surprised
Younger musicians are being trained with no distinction between 'pop' music
and 'classical.' My son is equally at home pl
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Alban Berg is quite different to Schoenberg, dear Bob. Alban Berg is a real
late Romantic
Robert Ward
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 3:08 PM
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Hi all,
Was moved to write by Hans comment below - over the years, my thinking
on Schoenberg and his buddies has changed - when I was a student and
then as a young professional, I used to
You ideals are very third world- I accept my neighbor do you? Can't you see
the beauty inside the 5'5" sigfried? Maybe you missed the point? The
elephant like woman probably has more character and heart and understanding of the
world then you ever will- if this is true how can you express mor
Hi all,
Was moved to write by Hans comment below - over the years, my thinking
on Schoenberg and his buddies has changed - when I was a student and
then as a young professional, I used to think of that style of 12-tone
music as very intellectual and cold - but now, I have realized that the
key
=
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I'm sure that
Scönberg's or Cage's definition of music i
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Hans,
Your ideals are maybe a little too third world for us americans, but
they are
very true. Remember that the majority of this list is American
I suggest we all take a break from this bantering and watch the movie "Rudy"
About a less than worthy football player trying to make it at Notre Dame.
The story is quite appropriate.
Hoss
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Michael Scheimer, in relation to Hans Pizka, wrote:
>If you really think that, I don't know how you ever survived playing so
> long because it would have been really tough telling all of those
conductors
> that they were wrong.
Don't worry! He LOVES it!! (Quite a lot of us do, actually!)
Professor,
You keep on mentioning not to bring up "exceptions" to the table of
not idealistic horn players who have made it. Many have already been named in
previous postings and there are many more. Why aren't they allowed to be made
examples and inspirations for the young people with
Hans,
Your ideals are maybe a little too third world for us americans, but they are
very true. Remember that the majority of this list is American and the
majority of us were raised with the ideal that we could DO anything we set our
minds to. I have a certain medical condition that hinders t
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> He never can get close to the ideal musician. Playing as a professional
> horn player is a bigger matter than you might be able to imagine. It is
> not a matter of just play a few years - but fall a burden
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Professor Pizka and others,
While you continually make this point about some people are not
suited
for so
Professor Pizka and others,
While you continually make this point about some people are not suited
for some things, I feel that you go about it in the wrong fashion. It seems
that your take on the matter is that if someone tries to make it in the world
of horn playing, who does not have
If you compare the running qualities of a model athlete (ideal slim
body, long legs of equal length, good lung capacity above average etc.)
with the qualities of a rather fat and heavier person with short legs
differing in length too, you will find out the winner easily.
The shorty can work hard
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