She was in her usual informative, effective and entertaining mode at
Share in Seattle.
But, also, I'd like to thank Phil, even if his grids are off by 10 or 15
percent, if his info is true, the z8 in our future (we're about 14-15
MSU) will do quite nicely. I want about a three way CPs and an
McKown, John wrote:
I had the CSF task working on our z800. However, when we upgraded to a
z890, we did not get any sort of coprocessor card(s) because they cost
extra and we didn't perceive any need. So my first question is, can I
run CSF (on z/OS 1.6) without a coprocessor. If so, can
Ward, Mike S wrote:
Hello all, I have a question about keys that I could not find a good
answer for. If you initialize your PKS and CKS using the pass phrase
method. Do you still have to set up master keys in order to generate
importer/exporter keys?
Pass phrase initialization includes
Hi
We have some PSF TCP/IP attached printers in the network.
I try to persuade the PSF to release the printer, close the session if
nothing to do
Till now without success
The current settings:
IPADDR='10.1.5.33',
FAILURE=WCONNECT,
TIMEOUT=REDRIVE,
DISCINTV=5,
RELMODE=IDLE,
This past January we upgraded from a z/800 with 2074's to a z/890 with
OSA-ICC's. For the first two month's or so our consoles for z/OS 1.6 ran
fine, just like they used to on the 2074's. For about the last 3-4 weeks
they have been behaving very slow. Our operators have been complaining
The only time I've noticed this behavior is when our OSA was set to auto
negotiate and connected at 10MB-half duplex. Hope this helps.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad S Carson
This past January we upgraded from a
snip
I had the CSF task working on our z800. However, when we upgraded to a
z890, we did not get any sort of coprocessor card(s) because they cost
extra and we didn't perceive any need. So my first question is, can I
run CSF (on z/OS 1.6) without a coprocessor. If so, can anybody point me
to a
There are some fairly recent apars describing excessive CPU utilization
in the CONSOLE address space.
Sorry, don't have the numbers handy, but you should be able to find them
on IBM-LINK.
HTH,
Al
snip
Subject: Re: OSA-ICC and Slow Consoles
The only time I've noticed this behavior is when our
Date:Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:24:34 -0300
From:Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What's the linkage editor really wants?
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/13/2006
at 06:08 PM, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Doesn't one of the utilities use the linkage editor, under the
Tim Shoppa wrote:
Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
section 4.6.1.4 setting and inspecting the clock (including some
description of UTC)
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DZ9AR004/4.6.1.4?SHELF=EZ2HW125DT=19970613131822CASE=
Interesting. So the hardware clock is actual ticks
On 17 Apr 2006 23:28:37 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gibney, Dave) wrote:
She was in her usual informative, effective and entertaining mode at
Share in Seattle.
But, also, I'd like to thank Phil, even if his grids are off by 10 or 15
percent, if his info is true, the z8
In a message dated 4/18/2006 3:53:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We have some PSF TCP/IP attached printers in the network.
I try to persuade the PSF to release the printer, close the session if
nothing to do
Till now without success
The current settings:
The
Tim Shoppa's contention,
I believe this means that the clock time is actually more directly
related to the TAI timescale or
GPS hex time than UTC.
is in fact right on.
Like most discussions of dates and times here, this thread has failed to
make some necessary distinctions. The
The only place I've found documentation on REP is in the z/VSE manuals -
that's how MiSHaP translates object code zaps, by adding REP cards to the
end of the object deck.
And the only place I've found reliable documentation on the format of the
object deck text is in the HLASM manual.
Later,
Ed Finnell wrote:
In a message dated 4/18/2006 3:53:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We have some PSF TCP/IP attached printers in the network.
I try to persuade the PSF to release the printer, close the session if
nothing to do
Till now without success
The
Ray Mullins wrote:
The only place I've found documentation on REP is in the z/VSE manuals -
that's how MiSHaP translates object code zaps, by adding REP cards to the
end of the object deck.
Sorry. I missed the start of this thread. Are you saying the z/OS PM
Binder accepts REP cards like
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/17/2006
at 09:21 PM, Clark Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
(A-series follow-on to the B5000-B7700
nit
The B5000, B5500 and B5700 had a completely different architecture
form the B6500, B7500 and their successors. Not even the syllable
size was the same. There were
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/17/2006
at 06:01 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
There is a convention followed by some MUAs and mentioned in RFC 1738
(but not defined there -- does anyone know the origin?) of using ''
and '' to delimit broken URLS to be rejoined by the MUA.
I was
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/17/2006
at 02:31 PM, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Did they accept either definition?
I have no idea, but I did complain about the question.
--
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ISO position; see
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/17/2006
at 03:53 PM, john gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Paul Gilmartin writes:
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said:
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:21:19 -0300
is true is that SYSLIB should not contain a concatenation of object
and
You WANT to share, the person recommending DISCONNECT=0 wanted to
PREVENT sharing.
I compared your parms from the first note to mine and for IP printer
sharing items, I don't see why it's not working. Make sure you are
stopping and restarting the FSS, not just the JES printer, for parm
Maybe. :-)
My e-mail provider (an ex-cow-orker) moved boxes this weekend, and I'm still
playing catch-up from that.
I don't recall how this subject came up in the thread. You'll probably
have to check the archives.
Later,
Ray
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
I know I can't do it (having read the manual and some SHARE
presentations), but can someone clue me in about why I can use static
system symbols such as SYSNAME in started task JCL but not regular batch
JCL?
I presume, since they are started tasks, that these variables are
available to my
In a message dated 4/18/2006 10:44:55 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
compared your parms from the first note to mine and for IP printer
sharing items, I don't see why it's not working. Make sure you are
stopping and restarting the FSS, not just the JES printer, for
can someone clue me in about why I can use static
system symbols such as SYSNAME in started task JCL but not regular batch
JCL?
This has come up many times!
Started Tasks are guaranteed to run on the same system they are submitted on.
The problem, in simple terms, is which set of system
System symbols are also allowed in started jobs which are similar to
started tasks.
Craig
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 8:00 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Static Symbols in
Rugen, Len wrote:
You WANT to share, the person recommending DISCONNECT=0 wanted to
PREVENT sharing.
I compared your parms from the first note to mine and for IP printer
sharing items, I don't see why it's not working. Make sure you are
stopping and restarting the FSS, not just the JES
Ray Mullins wrote:
Maybe. :-)
Maybe what? Maybe the binder accepts REP cards? Or maybe the binder
accepts REP cards for GOFF objects?
--
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Phoenix Software International, Inc
5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800
Los Angeles, CA 90045
310-338-0400 x318
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If you have your PSF settings correct you should see this on your HOST
SYSLOG.
APS929I PSFIP$P PSFIP$P HPRF330 PRT325 (TCPIP) 302
(CONT.) COMMUNICATION WITH TCP/IP-ATTACHED PRINTER (PRT325) IPADDR
(CONT.) (192.168.75.244) WAS TERMINATED DUE TO A DISCONNECT INTERV
(CONT.)
System symbols are also allowed in started jobs which are similar to
started tasks.
I am aware of that.
I didn't ask the question.
I supplied an answer.
Also, is it supported under TSO?
I've forgotten.
-
-teD
O-KAY! BLUE! JAYS!
Let's PLAY! BALL!
On 18 Apr 2006 08:59:32 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
(Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know I can't do it (having read the manual and some
SHARE presentations), but can someone clue me in about why
I can use static system symbols such as SYSNAME in
started task
Hi
Thank you all.
We have two TCP/IP attached printers, for one it is working, I got the
disconnect message etc., for
the second one, no message the printer in SELECT READ status.
Desi de la Garza wrote:
If you have your PSF settings correct you should see this on your HOST
SYSLOG.
Re Robert Rosenberg's posting: All RLD items not resolved at
assembly time are listed in the Relocation Directory -- they
don't necessarily have to have different Position and Relocation
ESDIDs (for example, A(*) will have the same PID and RID).
Re Ed Gould's posting: I vaguely remember seeing a
I wonder if IBM would consider providing a USERMOD that would perform
symbol conversion on the system that the job actually executes (thus
preserving the just like a started task)
Just a thought.
-Rob
snip
This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be
So they both have the same PSF settings and only one is working?
Thanks,
Desi de la Garza
Systems Programmer
Bexar County Information Services
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Miklos Szigetvari
Sent:
Maybe. :-)
I think this all started out of REP cards for object decks. I was just
replying to the particular topic about documentation.
If I had some time today, I'd try an experiment on the older format side. I
don't have any GOFF handy.
Later,
Ray
-Original Message-
From: IBM
Shane's handy IEFUJV exit will do this as will other methods discussed
in the archives.
Since you can do it in a standard SMF exit or JES exit I think it would
be a harder case to make for an IBM
distributed USERMOD than the TSO/E updates for BINPSIZE=x'00'.
File # 573 IEFUJV exit for System
In a message dated 4/18/2006 12:08:25 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So they both have the same PSF settings and only one is working?
I'd be tempted to switch the wires and see if problems follows?
It may be just me, but I could see a parameter in IEASYMxx (pseduo-doc
follows)
-
SYMRESLV= SUBMIT / CONVERT / INITIATE
- SYMRESLV determines where system symbols are resolved for an ordinary
batch job. Note that started
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Remember that the network setting and IPDS settings at the printer end might
also be causing the problem.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ed Finnell
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:50 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what is the MIPS or MSUs of the particular models ???
MIPS are whatever you want them to be!
I wrote an article, admittedly for an IBM publication, and it was only 900
words, so I only scratched the surface.
But, MIPS are:
Hello World
We have a Z890-370. We currently are running a single LPAR with both
test and production running in that LPAR. We are looking at moving into
a SYSPLEX environment using two LPARS (one for test and one for
production) and an Internal Coupling facility. The three engines would
have
But what MSU/MIP value is assigned to an engine ???
It depends.
The first engine is 100%.
The second gives you 86% more (approx).
The next around 82%.
The 9th gives you ...
MSUs are assigned based on the total capacity of the CEC.
Not on the individual CP's.
And, MSUs are not the same as they
I have some 19 different DB2 subsystems. Some
of those subsystems would need to share data across to the other LPAR.
Don't expect performance if you share CP's for the ICF!
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McGee, Cletus
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Internal Coupling facility
Hello World
We have a Z890-370. We currently are running a single LPAR
After Apache is reshaped for z/OS, assuming that it kept in whatever
language the original was distributed in, could the reshaped Apache be
modified easily to run on a Unix/Linux system and if so would it run
better?
I can't imagine why anyone would want to do that when Apache runs just
Hello Cletus,
I am not sure if I understand you correctly, what will be you final config ?
Three LPARs with z/OS + one LPAR as CF ? And all sharing three CPUs ? Nobody
can tell you what it will lok like as we don't know what is your current
utilization of CPUs, but I would recommend you to
Edward,
This topic started because Johnny Luo asked about the contents of an object
module. My reply included a reference to the REP card and thus another
strand of the original thread spun off. (This covers Ray's question.)
In the thread I reminisced over a particularly tricky use of the REP
Thanks for the answer.
I just finished generating an exporter key using ICSF. Do I need to
generate an importer key as well? The ICSF admin book sort of says they
complement each other, but it doesn't say whether you need both. I will
be encrypting tapes using VDR's utility, and I'll need to
On 18 Apr 2006 06:20:35 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clark Morris) wrote:
Is there any hope of the other DBMS vendors being able to license the
ability to use Z/ipp processors?
There is hope, but it is by no means a certainty. It wouldn't hurt for
interested customers to make their wishes in this
I just thought I'd give you all a status on our datacenter. The time
is short. My last day, unless I hear otherwise soon, is 4-28.
Yesterday at noon we shut down all of the CICSs, which were still
running in read only mode. I was amazed at how many messages were
coming from VTAM saying
On Apr 18, 2006, at 2:26 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
Edward,
This topic started because Johnny Luo asked about the contents of
an object
module. My reply included a reference to the REP card and thus another
strand of the original thread spun off. (This covers Ray's question.)
In the thread I
Is there any hope of the other DBMS vendors being able to license
the
ability to use Z/ipp processors?
There is hope, but it is by no means a certainty. It wouldn't hurt
for
interested customers to make their wishes in this regard known to IBM.
IBM plans to disclose the software
Ed Gould wrote:
I too remember rep cards but honestly don't remember where
that they were documented. That is why I asked the question.
I *vaguely* remember them from 25+ years ago. I was just
hoping that someone would know if they are still supported
and if so where they were
At 03:24 +0200 on 04/18/2006, Chris Mason wrote about Re: What's the
linkage editor really wants?:
Robert,
Quite right - total rubbish - I meant to say REP, of course, as can be seen
from the context - and the fact that I specifically said that RLD
corresponds to what can be found in the
On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 21:17 +0200, Marian Gasparovic wrote:
I am not sure if I understand you correctly, what will be you final config ?
Three LPARs with z/OS + one LPAR as CF ? And all sharing three CPUs ? Nobody
can tell you what it will lok like as we don't know what is your current
In
!!AAAYAGCK2jc9lJFEn5U5PfIb9CTigAAAEErskH8dsbhKjkvp/[EMAIL
PROTECTED],
on 04/18/2006
at 07:53 AM, Ray Mullins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The only place I've found documentation on REP is in the z/VSE
manuals -
that's how MiSHaP translates object code zaps, by adding REP
Well, I just took some time to test REP using the documented format from
z/VSE.
And, alas, in z/OS, it doesn't work - neither with the binder nor the
linkage editor (HEWLKED).
Too bad, actually...I could see some usefulness, although there are lots of
other ways around this, and I don't know if
Ray Mullins wrote:
Well, I just took some time to test REP using the documented format from
z/VSE.
And, alas, in z/OS, it doesn't work - neither with the binder nor the
linkage editor (HEWLKED).
Too bad, actually...I could see some usefulness, although there are lots of
other ways around this,
I can name one non-IBM MF that has a port - BS2000/OSD.
Quite a few open source products (including Perl) had their initial EBCDIC
ports done on that platform.
Later,
Ray
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craddock, Chris
Ray,
It's a *card* thing - along with felt-tipped pens, elastic bands and 029
card punches[1] - and you'd be needing a 2540 or 2501 to read your object
decks (modules) in and a 2540 to get them punched out from the
compiler/assembler.
[1]
Good news as IBM deny any information about the zAAP for some reason.
Roland
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craddock, Chris
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:34 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: LDAP and DBMS was
I'm old enough to know what an 029 is. And an 026. I have memories of
punching card decks. Not all good. :-)
I still think I can program an 029.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Mason
Sent: Tuesday April 18 2006
Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc wrote:
Good news as IBM deny any information about the zAAP for some reason.
Because zAAPs can run good ol' unprivileged TCB mode code. zIIPs can run
only enclave SRBs.
--
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Phoenix Software International, Inc
5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800
I've seen a bunch of posts on this. Are these the REP cards as are used in
AMASPZAP, or is this something different. For example:
VER 0012 AF21
REP 0012 2345
Eric Bielefeld
PH Mining Equipment
- Original Message -
From: Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups:
Because Unix (and Linux) allow the CMOS/RTC clock to be set to one time
and then use a time zone offset to adjust the local time.
Windows does NOT allow this, the CMOS/RTC clock must be set to your
local time.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, even though my UNIX machine's CMOS/RTC clock is set
Eric,
Similar but not identical.
A REP card belongs to the days when you had a 2540 card reader/punch
connected to your machine in the good old days of the 360 and 360 GT (aka
370).
You submitted the compile job and went off to the coffee lounge. When you
came back the object deck was in the
In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:50:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
still think I can program an 029.
Two drums or three?
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1 drum, but 2 program areas (12-3, 4-9).
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German is essentially a form of assembly language consisting entirely of far
That looks like it's been modified to support load modules over 1MB, because
here's z/VSE's version:
A.5 Format of the REP (User Replace) Statement
Card Columns Content
1
X'02'. Identifies this as a statement of an object module.
2 - 4
REP -- Replace text statement.
5 - 6
Blank.
In a message dated 4/18/2006 10:16:58 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Remember star wheels?
And cards saws...used them up thru the 3900 printer for paper jams...
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On Apr 18, 2006, at 8:33 PM, Eric N. Bielefeld wrote:
I've seen a bunch of posts on this. Are these the REP cards as are
used in AMASPZAP, or is this something different. For example:
VER 0012 AF21
REP 0012 2345
Eric Bielefeld
PH Mining Equipment
Eric,
Sometime in the past there was
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know I can't do it (having read the manual and some SHARE
presentations), but can someone clue me in about why I can use static
system symbols such as SYSNAME in started task JCL but not regular batch
JCL?
I presume, since they are started tasks, that these
Hi fellow listers,
We have suddenly seen a large number of tapes appear on our daily scratch
volume list. We are a bit nervous about releasing them for scratch, since
they are HSM migration tape duplex copies and we don't see the original
tape of the duplex pair in this list. We expected that
At 15:51 -0700 on 04/18/2006, Ray Mullins wrote about Re: What's the
linkage editor really wants?:
Well, I just took some time to test REP using the documented format from
z/VSE.
And, alas, in z/OS, it doesn't work - neither with the binder nor the
linkage editor (HEWLKED).
Too bad,
At 16:49 -0700 on 04/18/2006, Ray Mullins wrote about Re: What's the
linkage editor really wants?:
I'm old enough to know what an 029 is. And an 026. I have memories of
punching card decks.
I was in college from 1964-1968 and our computer lab had 1620 a CPU
and 026 Card Punches. In my
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