Re: Patent #6886160

2006-06-15 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
-Original Message- From: "Ron and Jenny Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 6/15/2006 8:20 PM To: "IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU" Subject: Re: Patent #6886160 Tony, Sad! It ridiculous. Obviously no-one ever showed this guy the Utilities manual so he

Re: Another off-shoring question

2006-06-15 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 15, 2006, at 5:18 PM, Phil Payne wrote: What if the target country were the USA? I haven't checked current data, and it's too much of an effort - in this instance - to get my facts right. But the last time I looked, IBM software (especially middleware like DB2) was substantially ch

Re: POR needed?

2006-06-15 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Victor, I assume you will be doing a box replacement to install the new box. Try as hard as possible to define the Partitions, Chpids etc on the new box the same as the old box. That way all cross-box links will be the same. No need to modify other boxes... But an IODF activate to keep

Check out InformationWeek | Gates Stepping Aside At Microsoft | UPDATE: Gates

2006-06-15 Thread Ed Finnell
_InformationWeek | Gates Stepping Aside At Microsoft | UPDATE: Gates Giving Up His Management Role At Microsoft By 2008 | June._ (http://www.informationweek.com/software/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=189401657) Times they are a changin'... ---

Re: Patent #6886160

2006-06-15 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Tony, Sad! It ridiculous. Obviously no-one ever showed this guy the Utilities manual so he could run IEBCOPY instead of inventing PCFORM. So how does one tell the US patent office that they got it wrong? Ron > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Patent #6886160

2006-06-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/15/2006 at 04:59 PM, Thomas David Rivers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I was stumbling around today and found this patent: Does the disclosures section of the patent mention IEHMOVE? The part that isn't prior art is obvious to a practitioner, making the whole thing i

Re: Need Urgent Help, Please

2006-06-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/15/2006 at 03:59 PM, Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I did a huge apply for FMID HBB7707 and all seemed to go well until >I got the message below, now I'm afraid to IPL. You did the APPLY on a live system? > IEC031I >D37-04,IFG0554P,SHUUSR3X,STEP01,N

Re: Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in batch on z/OS?)

2006-06-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/15/2006 at 02:47 PM, "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >What would an SNA name server do? Map a tree structured name space into a two level name space, of course. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I)

2006-06-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/15/2006 at 02:27 PM, john gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Much more attention has been given to the AC=1 issue than it >deserves. Nonsense; you just don't understand the issue. >Fortunately, however, AC=1 is innocuous UNLESS the load module or >program object

Re: LLA and Cobol copybook library

2006-06-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/15/2006 at 07:36 PM, Ron and Jenny Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >VLF is a facility to buffer active load modules, execs, etc; but VLF >does not buffer normal PDS members like copybooks, JCL etc. VLF buffers normal PDS members where there is a caller that supp

Re: Patent #6886160

2006-06-15 Thread Ray Mullins
At least the EU has stopped the software patent insanity. Software patents and businesses processes just cannot be patented. They produce nothing tangible. (USA example) I just saw where Blockbuster is suing Netflix because they are applying for a patent for the way they do business - use a comp

Re: Patent #6886160

2006-06-15 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
=== -Original Message- From: "Tony Harminc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 6/15/2006 5:04 PM To: "IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU" Subject: Re: Patent #6886160 It's kind of sad, isn't it... This guy spent who knows how much money on getting this patent, an

Re: Enlarged VVDSs causing problems

2006-06-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I've always heard that you don't want your VVDSs to go into extents for >performance reasons? Quoting Ted MacNEIL With RAID and cache that doesn't matter any more. . -teD Marching to the beat of a different flute -- For I

Re: Compilers supported by CA-Optimizer?

2006-06-15 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. This turned out to be the key. Customer does in fact have CA-Optimizer II. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Schwartz Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 11:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Compilers s

Re: Patent #6886160

2006-06-15 Thread Charles Mills
My commercial mainframe file transfer product, Outbound, had this as a feature when I released it in 1988. It was born out of necessity. We did not own a machine; we developed at a service bureau. It was very expensive for me to cut a tape and ship it. I built in a feature to copy a load module to

Re: Need Urgent Help, Please

2006-06-15 Thread Shane Ginnane
> > IEC031I D37-04,IFG0554P,SHUUSR3X,STEP01,NUCLEUS,0A20,ZOSRS1,SYS1.NUCLEUS Ah, just make it a SMS managed PDSE and be done with it. Isn't that supposed to be the answer to all (PDS) space problems these days ... ??? Shane ... . . . . . . . YES - I *was* joking.

Re: Need Urgent Help, Please

2006-06-15 Thread Gibney, Dave
Have you tested stand alone restore lately :) The one that really hurts is if the LINKLIB containing IEBCOPY fills and SMP/E fails because IEBCOPY moved IEBCOPY during the compress. But any compressing of active linklisted libraries is very very dangerous. Dave Gibney

Re: Patent #6886160

2006-06-15 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
On Thursday 15 June 2006 17:07, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6886160.html > > A method of distributing mainframe software and data using PC-based > data media is disclosed, comprising a mainframe program for > converting a mainframe sequential dataset or all o

Re: Need Urgent Help, Please

2006-06-15 Thread Howard Rifkind
Dave, you couldn't be more right, but this system is a hand me down and this is the only system I have. "Gibney, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It could be that the PDS filled, you specified RETRY and SMP/E compressed and retried. As always, you're playing with fire if APPLYING to the live s

Re: Need Urgent Help, Please

2006-06-15 Thread Skip Robinson
It occurred to me after my first response that you may be OK as is. The original x37 abend should have triggered a compress. In the job that failed, look at the CAUSER report. If you see 'NUCLEUS ran out of space', then you have a problem to solve. If that message does not appear, then the prob

Re: Enlarged VVDSs causing problems

2006-06-15 Thread George D Dranes
It was really for consistency. We mainly have 15 track VVDS so we wanted to make them 15 track. I've always heard that you don't want your VVDSs to go into extents for performance reasons? Quoting Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >We recently enlarged the VVDS on 30 or so SMS volumes becua

Re: Need Urgent Help, Please

2006-06-15 Thread Robert Justice
- Original Message - From: "Skip Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:06 PM Subject: Re: Need Urgent Help, Please Don't try to IPL yet. First run an IEBCOPY COMPRESS on SYS1.NUCLEUS. Then resubmit your most recent APPLY; i

Re: Need Urgent Help, Please

2006-06-15 Thread Skip Robinson
Don't try to IPL yet. First run an IEBCOPY COMPRESS on SYS1.NUCLEUS. Then resubmit your most recent APPLY; if you have SDSF, bring up the output job, type SJ to reconstruct the original jobstream, and type SUB on the command line. Make sure that the job completes without an x37. If that should

Re: Need Urgent Help, Please

2006-06-15 Thread Gibney, Dave
It could be that the PDS filled, you specified RETRY and SMP/E compressed and retried. As always, you're playing with fire if APPLYING to the live system datasets. Dave Gibney [EMAIL PROTECTED] System Programmer(509) 335-7359 Information Techn

Re: Patent #6886160

2006-06-15 Thread Tony Harminc
It's kind of sad, isn't it... This guy spent who knows how much money on getting this patent, and it describes (as you say) basic procedures that were in routine use at least ten years before the application. Sad because of all that money, but sadder still that the USPTO was so clueless as to thi

Re: Need Urgent Help, Please

2006-06-15 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld
Whenever I've had x37 abends on the Nucleus dataset, there usually is space available after the abend. I believe that if you were trying to link IEANUC00, it knows it won't fit, so it never gets added to the dataset. IEANUC00 is pretty big, taking several cylinders if I remember correctly. E

Need Urgent Help, Please

2006-06-15 Thread Howard Rifkind
Hi all, I did a huge apply for FMID HBB7707 and all seemed to go well until I got the message below, now I'm afraid to IPL. The sys1.nucleus file has room in it so I don't know why I'm getting this message. Thanks IEC031I D37-04,IFG0554P,SHUUSR3X,STEP01,NUCLEUS,0A20,ZOSRS1

Re: Enlarged VVDSs causing problems

2006-06-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>We recently enlarged the VVDS on 30 or so SMS volumes becuase they were >extremely small VVDS's are allowed to take extents, and since they are VSAM (123 extents); I don't understand the issue. The default used to be 4 tracks per extent, but if you do your homework, you can be better than tha

Re: Another off-shoring question

2006-06-15 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld
I guess if a British company were to offshore to the US, I'd be for it, only because it would add jobs, and right now I need one. I still think that too much could go wrong having your data 5 or 10,000 miles from home. You bring up an interesting point though, that some software prices are di

Re: Another off-shoring question

2006-06-15 Thread Jon Brock
The "seriously evaluating" phrase is key. I would think the same considerations would apply there as any any offshoring scenario, not forgetting the whole "two countries separated by a common language" issue. The technical challenges would perhaps not be very big; the legal and political probl

Enlarged VVDSs causing problems

2006-06-15 Thread George D Dranes
We recently enlarged the VVDS on 30 or so SMS volumes becuase they were extremely small. I ran diagnoses against each of the volumes before hand and everything check out clean. To enlarge them we used a product from DINO software called TREX (which has really been a great product) which export

Re: Patent #6886160

2006-06-15 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:59:38 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: >I was stumbling around today and found this patent: > > http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6886160.html > >The abstract reads: > > A method of distributing mainframe software and data using PC-based > data media is disclosed, comp

Another off-shoring question

2006-06-15 Thread Phil Payne
What if the target country were the USA? I haven't checked current data, and it's too much of an effort - in this instance - to get my facts right. But the last time I looked, IBM software (especially middleware like DB2) was substantially cheaper in the USA than it was in the UK. Around CICS

Re: Writing a Listener and receive the takesocket in other address space

2006-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
Giovanni Have you double-checked the DOMAIN setting? It would be very helpful if you posted the actual EZASMI macro statements (INITAPI, GIVESOCKET and TAKESOCKET) from both programs and the associated working storage. Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-23

Another off-shoring question

2006-06-15 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld
After reading about the offshoring failure, I had another question about offshoring. Does anyone know of a company that has actually moved their computers to another country, and offshored the whole shootin match? I'm thinking mostly MVS sites, but other large operations such as Unix sites c

Re: Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in batch on z/OS?)

2006-06-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
> I'm going to ask a dumb question about the TN3270 client - is it somehow > using UDP instead of TCP? I don't even know what UDP is. I'm not a network person. I'm stuck on this project because I'm the only Mainframe Techie for our company. The rest are outsourced. The traces show some kind of

Re: z/OS DASD Allocation using Esoterics

2006-06-15 Thread Raymond Noal
Thanks David, I will definitely add this to my 'must read' list. HITACHI  DATA SYSTEMS Raymond E. Noal Senior Technical Engineer Office: (408) 970 - 7978 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Betten Sent: Thursday, June 1

Patent #6886160

2006-06-15 Thread Thomas David Rivers
I was stumbling around today and found this patent: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6886160.html The abstract reads: A method of distributing mainframe software and data using PC-based data media is disclosed, comprising a mainframe program for converting a mainframe sequential dat

Re: Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in batch on z/OS?)

2006-06-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Yes, IP drops packets. But also, yes, TCP keeps track of it all and requests >retransmissions. Not according to the traces. If TCP/IP is so robust, why has it NEVER happened in 7 years under SNA (how long we've had the TN3270 client we use), and it always happens under TCP/IP. We have MACROS

Re: Writing a Listener and receive the takesocket in other address space

2006-06-15 Thread Giovanni L Bozzetti
Rob, S LSTWORK.TASK0001,P1=0001this is the socket no, converted in decimal and When received converted in hex and saved in a half-word, I dump the memory in LSTWORK and everything is ok X'0001'. I can see in the correct field. LSTSERVEreceive the connection exe

Re: An off-shoring failure

2006-06-15 Thread Rob Weiss
Jon, The other response is: "How much are you willing to pay to have it work that way and how fast do you need it?" Rob Weiss z/SWITA and z/Series I/T Security and Privacy Consultant IBM Software Group Sales IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 06/15/2006 02:01:14 PM: > That certainly is wro

Re: An off-shoring failure

2006-06-15 Thread Jon Brock
That certainly is wrong. The answer to every technical question is really, "It depends." Jon I've heard one tape that you wouldn't believe - the answer to every technical question was "Yes". -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Mainframe Linux Mythbusting (Was: Using Java in batch on z/OS?)

2006-06-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>TCP keeps track of it all, requesting a resend of dropped/lost/missing packets. > >NOT in this case! >The packets are dropped! >They are not re-sent and the app is blown off the air. >It works under SNA; it bellies up und

SCRT Version 12.1 is available

2006-06-15 Thread David J. Chase
Re posting from: Al Sherkow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:57:18 -0500 (cross posted on IBM-MAIN and LPAR-PRICING-L) We apologize for accidentally leaving the z9 BC off of page 4 of the SCRT User's Guide, this oversight will be fixed in the next edition of the book. The software pricing

Re: z/OS DASD Allocation using Esoterics

2006-06-15 Thread David Betten
You may want to look at the DFSMSdfp Storage Administration Reference topic 6.6, SMS Volume Selection for Data Set Allocation. This discusses in detail the criteria used by DFSMS for volume selection. Have a nice day, Dave Betten DFSORT Development, Performance Lead IBM Corporation email: [EMAIL

manual incremental backups

2006-06-15 Thread Ginnie Nuckles
We are trying to run incremental backups on specific SMS owned volumes without having them be automatically included in our "nightly auto backup" .. I cannot find how to do this.. If we want to manually run it with the backvol command we still need to set the Auto Backup attribute value to Y wh

Re: z/OS DASD Allocation using Esoterics

2006-06-15 Thread Rob Weiss
Raymond's point is excellent. It is also possible that there was not adequate space or there was some other constraint at the time SMS made the decisions. It would be interesting to see if you got the exact same results at different periods, repeating the same experiment. I think I'm in trouble

Re: z/OS DASD Allocation using Esoterics

2006-06-15 Thread John Kington
Raymond, Are all of the SMS managed volumes in ENABLE status? Maybe one of the volumes is in QUIESCE status or even DISABLE or DISABLE, NEW. Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send em

Re: Writing a Listener and receive the takesocket in other address space

2006-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
How do you pass the socket number between the address spaces ? It might help if you posted some code fragments Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi/ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discu

Re: An off-shoring failure

2006-06-15 Thread Chris Mason
Surely the answer to every question was "Goodness gracious me, yes" Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Phil Payne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Thursday, 15 June, 2006 4:17 PM Subject: An off-shoring failure > http://in.today.reuters.com/news/Ne

Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I)

2006-06-15 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Only if the admin never recommended protecting them. Admins recommend, management decides. I am quite willing to take the blame for my many mistakes. But after I tell the boss there is no water in the pool and he still decides to jump off the high board, I will be far enough away from the edge t

Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I)

2006-06-15 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 15, 2006, at 9:27 AM, john gilmore wrote: Much more attention has been given to the AC=1 issue than it deserves. There are, as a practical matter, no effective controls on the specification of AC=1 for binder processing. Fortunately, however, AC=1 is innocuous UNLESS the load module

z/OS DASD Allocation using Esoterics

2006-06-15 Thread Raymond Noal
First I want to thank all of you that responded. The gist of the responses tells me that I may be giving z/OS allocation logic too much credit. Not what I hoped for of course but this is why we do testing - right? The cigar goes to John Kington who suggested allocating my eight data sets in a si

Re: Compilers supported by CA-Optimizer?

2006-06-15 Thread Alan Schwartz
There was a separate product for COBOL II (not surprisingly called CA-Optimizer II). Alan Schwartz Assurant Shared Business Services Lead Systems Programmer Phone: 651-361-4758 Fax: 651-361-5625 Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 06/15/2006 01:25

"Philosophical" question on "successful" file checking

2006-06-15 Thread Howard Brazee
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:02:36 GMT, "William M. Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If seems to me that an application programmer more often than not (but NOT >universally) should check for the specific status codes that are "known" at the >time the application is created. In that way, any NEW "su

Re: Writing a Listener and receive the takesocket in other address space

2006-06-15 Thread Giovanni L Bozzetti
Rob, I use exactly you describe and INITAPI is exactly you describe also. Now I am receing EBADF in takesocket, why??? Giovanni Bozzetti System Programmer - Original Message - From: "Rob Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Thursday, June 15, 200

Compilers supported by CA-Optimizer?

2006-06-15 Thread Charles Mills
Does CA-Optimizer support or make use of any compiler OTHER than OS/VS COBOL 5740-CB1? I can find no information one way or the other in the CA docs I have access to, but of course it's a little hard to prove a negative. I figured someone in this august group would know the answer. Thanks, Charle

Re: z/OS 1.6 DASD Allocation using Esoterics

2006-06-15 Thread Greg Dorner
Allocate a data set size of at least half the volume (if even possible), then they would go to the eight separate volumes as long as you don't use the SPACE RLSE parm. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Kington > Sent: T

Re: POR needed?

2006-06-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Are you sure it wasn't 1995 - the shop I worked at back then was "one of the >first" (but not necessarily the 1st) parallel sysplexes in production and we >did that in November of 1995. October 1994. One year and one month after my younger son was born. . -teD Marching to the beat of a diffe

Re: Long IPCS subcommands in batch

2006-06-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:39:11 -0400, Bob Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Am I misunderstanding the question or is this what you're looking for? >... Thanks. It turns out I was trying to solve the wrong problem. I was replacing CTRACE COMP(SYSTCPIP) LOCAL FULL with CTRACE COMP(SYSTCP

Re: Default permission bits on USS files

2006-06-15 Thread Tony Harminc
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > "Klein, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >The programmer says she can do this with Windows so she/we should be > >able to do it in *nix. > > She *can't* "do this with Windows", only with a specific application. > It has notihing to do with windows versus *i

Re: An off-shoring failure

2006-06-15 Thread Tony Harminc
Phil Payne wrote: > http://in.today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=technologyNews&storyI D=2006-06-15T171610Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-254866-1.xml > They've had terrible problems with call > non-resolution. Their Level 2 call centre was retained in > the UK and complained bitterly abo

Re: SSI Deallocation war

2006-06-15 Thread Victor Gil
For the archives [this was a nasty one]: The SSI Allocation exit is driven during the job step initialization, i.e. BEFORE the step PGM runs. My SSI function loader issued a LOAD of the exit and assumed it would stay in memory till the time of DeAllocation. However, the initiator freemained th

Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I)

2006-06-15 Thread Tony Harminc
Walt Farrell wrote: > (2) Also, a library may become APF-authorized at some later > time, and when that happens how many people check whether all > the AC=1 modules in the library really needed to have it? > > (3) Also, a module may be copied from one library to another. > How many people ch

An off-shoring failure

2006-06-15 Thread Phil Payne
http://in.today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=technologyNews&storyID=2006-06-15T171610Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-254866-1.xml "LONDON (Reuters) - Britain's second-biggest energy supplier, Powergen, said on Thursday all customer calls to it are to be answered in Britain rather than India,

Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I)

2006-06-15 Thread Walt Farrell
On 6/15/2006 11:07 AM, john gilmore wrote: Edward E. Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Someone suggested placing AC=1 on a program that was not intended to be given control via the EXEC PGM= interface. Not only would that be a mistake; it would create an integrity exposure! and we must agre

Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I)

2006-06-15 Thread Edward Jaffe
Roach, Dennis wrote: I do not see it. Standard invocations (link/attach/xctl) will enforce a non-exposure environment. If the code is being branch entered, the AC=1 has no impact. The authorization will be inherited from the caller. Potential exposures can result from running an authorized

Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I)

2006-06-15 Thread Walt Farrell
On 6/15/2006 11:27 AM, Roach, Dennis wrote: I do not see it. Standard invocations (link/attach/xctl) will enforce a non-exposure environment. If the code is being branch entered, the AC=1 has no impact. The authorization will be inherited from the caller. Suppose you have module A (AC=1) whic

Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I)

2006-06-15 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
=== -Original Message- From: "john gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 6/15/2006 8:27 AM To: "IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU" Subject: Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I) Much more attention has been given to the AC=1 issue than it deserves. There are, as

Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I)

2006-06-15 Thread Roach, Dennis
I do not see it. Standard invocations (link/attach/xctl) will enforce a non-exposure environment. If the code is being branch entered, the AC=1 has no impact. The authorization will be inherited from the caller. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROT

Re: POR needed?

2006-06-15 Thread Rebecca
">>Gotcha beat! October 1984 -- first production implementation at our site. DOH! (8(|)) Typo due to fat fingers on a BlackBerry. ... 1994." Are you sure it wasn't 1995 - the shop I worked at back then was "one of the first" (but not necessarily the 1st) parallel sysplexes in production and

Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I)

2006-06-15 Thread Edward Jaffe
john gilmore wrote: Edward E. Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Someone suggested placing AC=1 on a program that was not intended to be given control via the EXEC PGM= interface. Not only would that be a mistake; it would create an integrity exposure! and we must agree to disagree about thi

Re: GIMUNZIP and Multi-part MCS

2006-06-15 Thread Ken Hynes
Several good suggestions and I may have to "Supersize" the HFS and several SMP files -- SYSUT1 and SORTWORK come to mind. The problem is I have a need to create a Flat File then feed it into the SMP process. The XML points to a SMPMCS.pax.Z file and the actual files are: SMPPTFIN/20061641515121

Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I)

2006-06-15 Thread john gilmore
Edward E. Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Someone suggested placing AC=1 on a program that was not intended to be given control via the EXEC PGM= interface. Not only would that be a mistake; it would create an integrity exposure! and we must agree to disagree about this issue. The use of

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-15 Thread john gilmore
Kurt Quackenbush wins this argument on points. That said, it is worth adding that 'source' and 'target' are much used to specify origin and destination, _from_ and _to_ locations. In this usage these two terms are antithetical, mutually exclusive. Source, as in 'source program', is also us

Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I)

2006-06-15 Thread Edward Jaffe
john gilmore wrote: Much more attention has been given to the AC=1 issue than it deserves. There are, as a practical matter, no effective controls on the specification of AC=1 for binder processing. Fortunately, however, AC=1 is innocuous UNLESS the load module or program object that has bee

[Fwd: Re: GIMUNZIP and Multi-part MCS]

2006-06-15 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Just curious, but what's the objective of using GIMUNZIP? Once you've done the download, you ought to be able to simply do a RECEIVE FROMNTS on the downloaded hierarchy. BTW, I notice in the RM: Note: If the archive file has been segmented in the package, you should specify

[Re: SMP/E "target source library"]

2006-06-15 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
I readily agree there was a user error. The developer coded (as above) "++ SRC() ... SYSLIB(xxx)", where xxx was the DDNAME of a data set with RECFM=FB,LRECL=80, in which the developer (incorrectly) expected a copy of the assembler source to be stored. Ah, now the confusion becomes clea

Re: AC=1 (was re: IEE028I)

2006-06-15 Thread john gilmore
Much more attention has been given to the AC=1 issue than it deserves. There are, as a practical matter, no effective controls on the specification of AC=1 for binder processing. Fortunately, however, AC=1 is innocuous UNLESS the load module or program object that has been so marked is also r

Re: IEE028I

2006-06-15 Thread Steve Lee
If the SYS3.PROD.LINKLIB has NOT been associated with the Alias in MCAT, take the option a). Thanks, Steve(Seung-Cheol) Lee Technical services Division of the State CIO SC Budget & Control Board 803.896.0291 email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-06-15 am 9:59 >>> Mark Pace wrote:

Re: IEE028I

2006-06-15 Thread Mark Pace
Again - thanks for all the hints and tips. I was able to repeat this exercise on another zOS LPAR without any problems and without an IPL. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http:/

Re: CATINDEX

2006-06-15 Thread Mark Thomen
""Jeff Horenstein"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > A CATINDEX was accidentally deleted from a non-SMS > volume. Surprisingly (to me) datasets cat'd in the related > catalog can still be accessed. New vsam/nvsam datasets can > be cat'd/deleted w/o apparent problem

z9 and Sysplex Timer Model 1

2006-06-15 Thread Mark Jacobs
Is anyone running a z9 processor with a sysplex timer model 1? Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN I

Re: IEE028I

2006-06-15 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Pace wrote: Now I'm confused. Being a old VM/VSE guy I decided I would go ahead and IPL. During the IPL IEA716I LIBRARY NOT LOCATED - LNKLST DATA SET IGNORED SYS3.PROD. LINKLIB You must either a) ensure the data set is cataloged in the master catalog or b) use the VOLUME para

Re: IEE028I

2006-06-15 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Pace wrote: But, did you remember to issue LNKLST UPDATE to pick up the new library for those address spaces currently running? No, that I did not do. I did a LNKLST DEFINE with a copyfrom the old LNKLST. I did a LNKLST ADD to ad my new link library. and I did a LNKLST ACTIVATE. Now

Re: IEE028I

2006-06-15 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 07:47:11 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on >06/14/2006 > at 06:27 PM, "Craddock, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>No. All that AC=1 does is tell the initiator that the >>program is eligible to be run as an APF-authorized t

Re: z/OS 1.6 DASD Allocation using Esoterics

2006-06-15 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Ted, Where did you find these rather odd rules? I've only worked on MVS since MVS/XA and I've never seen or observed any behaviour that came close to resembling this - SMS and non-SMS. Ron > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of

Re: POR needed?

2006-06-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>>Gotcha beat! October 1984 -- first production implementation at our site. >> >> >That's pretty good! Was that on a 3090? What did you use for a coupling facility? A plutonium powered DeLorean? DOH! (8(|)) Typo due to fat fingers on a BlackBerry. ... 1994. . -teD Marching to the beat of

Re: IBM Software and Outsourcing

2006-06-15 Thread John Eells
See below... Meganen Naidoo - BCX - Data Centre Services wrote: Hi, We are an outsourcing shop with multiple clients running on ZOS 1.4 on 23 Lpars across two Z990 processors. Our current ZOS rollout method is to order one base ZOS system (Serverpac) containing all clients IBM Products. We

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Kurt Quackenbush said: > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:58:29 -0400 > > >>No. 3.7.5.5 discusses source; 3.7.5.8 discusses modules. So it is > >>appropriate language for the section you cited. > >> > > Why, then, did we get the error from Binder: > > (Please forgive the rhet

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, John Eells said: > Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:49:55 -0400 > > Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > > Well understood. And since in this case the message referred to the > > data set identified by the SYSLIB() keyword, I maintain that the > > RM's characterization of SYSLIB as a "s

Re: Writing a Listener and receive the takesocket in other address space

2006-06-15 Thread Rob Scott
Giovanni, If LSTWORK is going to perform the TAKESOCKET, then "LSTWORK " must be specified as the NAME value in the CLIENT structure for the GIVESOCKET call in LSTSERVE. The way you have it currently assumes that the TAKESOCKET is going to be performed by a subtask within the LSTSERVE address spac

Re: IEE028I

2006-06-15 Thread Mark Pace
Thanks to everyone that was so patient with my question. I fixed it by adding the VOLUME(x) parameter to the PROGxx LNKLST ADD and IPLing. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 h

Re: IEE028I

2006-06-15 Thread Jay Maynard
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 08:34:30AM -0400, Mark Pace wrote: > Now I'm confused. Being a old VM/VSE guy I decided I would go ahead and > IPL. During the IPL > IEA716I LIBRARY NOT LOCATED - LNKLST DATA SET IGNORED SYS3.PROD. > LINKLIB > > I know the linklib exists. Know I'm wondering if th

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-15 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
No. 3.7.5.5 discusses source; 3.7.5.8 discusses modules. So it is appropriate language for the section you cited. Why, then, did we get the error from Binder: IEW2735S DA0F OUTPUT DATA SET FOR DDNAME xxx HAS INVALID RECORD FO RMAT. RECFM=U IS REQUIRED. .. when we attempted to inst

Re: POR needed?

2006-06-15 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 07:21:42 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > >>>We've been running parallel sysplex for more than ten years. >> >>Gotcha beat! October 1984 -- first production implementation at our site. >> >> >That's pretty good! Was that on a 3

Re: SMP/E "target source library"

2006-06-15 Thread John Eells
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Well understood. And since in this case the message referred to the data set identified by the SYSLIB() keyword, I maintain that the RM's characterization of SYSLIB as a "source library" is misplaced. In my view, a target library is one that is updated by APPLY process

Re: Security

2006-06-15 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 14:27 +0200, Phil Payne wrote: > "When asked how he could be sure the information was authentic, al-Rubaie > said 'there is > nothing more authentic than finding a thumbdrive in his pocket.'" And you sure wouldn't bet against the spooks they have on hand being able to decip

Re: Writing a Listener and receive the takesocket in other address space

2006-06-15 Thread Giovanni L Bozzetti
Hello Rob, Thanks for your question, this what I have. What have you specified for : The NAME and TASK for the CLIENT structure on the GIVESOCKET ? LSTSERVE TASK0001 The NAME and TASK for the CLIENT structure on the TAKESOCKET ? LSTSERVESRVR0001 The INITAPI call for the hand

Re: IEE028I

2006-06-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:34:30 -0400, Mark Pace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Now I'm confused. Being a old VM/VSE guy I decided I would go ahead and >IPL. During the IPL >IEA716I LIBRARY NOT LOCATED - LNKLST DATA SET IGNORED SYS3.PROD. >LINKLIB > Is it cataloged in the master catalog? ---

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