Re: Anyone using graphical ISPF?

2006-08-17 Thread Dave Salt
From: "Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But exactly this is what Paul meant, and is what I'm using too in this case. Open the same panel on two sessions and hit the SWAP key (PF9 usually) a couple of times in a row. The screen will seem to blink where characters differ. You don't need

Re: SMS DASD Volume Count in z/OS 1.4

2006-08-17 Thread John Ticic
-- snip -- My storage admin guy is having a problem that he thinks started when we went to z/OS 1.4. We use FDR Upstream to back up certain workstations and servers to mainframe DASD. We use the same SMS data class for all of them. It allows for up to 59 volumes to be used for each backup data s

R: APPC/MVS System Base LU

2006-08-17 Thread MASSIMO BIANCUCCI
I think you need to be in an APPC conversation before trying to get the var. Manual states MVSVAR("SYSAPPCLU") is obtained from the ATBEXAI APPC function and, if I'm not wrong, you need to be APPC connected (ATBALLC function) before issuing the call. On the other side, if you need the info outs

Re: Anyone using graphical ISPF?

2006-08-17 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
>Also, speaking of START, and jumping around various ISPF screens, >the early versions of Borland Turbo C and Pascal used to have a >number on one of the status lines in square brackets showing the >number of (hidden) windows you had open. By pressing on or tabbing >to one of these numbers, yo

Re: Anyone using graphical ISPF?

2006-08-17 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
>[snip] COMPARE command and I use it frequently, but sometimes I want >to compare two panels (not two files) and split is useful for that. >However, by splitting the screen in the middle I can only see part of >each panel, whereas if I use the ISPF GUI then each 'split' becomes a >new window on

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Craddock, Chris
Jim Mulder quoth; > I make no statements about the safety of using FORCE. The ramifications > of any asynchronous abnormal termination depend on what was going on when > the termination occurred. That is true FORCE, CANCEL , DETACH, etc. As Jim says, there are lots of "interesting" cases that

Re: JES2 Not Dormant

2006-08-17 Thread David Alcock
>From the Share session PDF: "2655 - JES2 z/OS 1.8 Product Overview & Review of Selected 1.7 Features". Output of the new $DJES2 command to show what's preventing a $pjes2: $HASP608 $DJES2 $HASP608 ACTIVE PROCESSORS (PCES) $HASP608 NAME $HASP608 --

Re: Anyone using graphical ISPF?

2006-08-17 Thread Clem Clarke
I had a little play with it a few years ago, and it also had another advantage, as I recall. Every time you started a new session, you got a new window, and so jumping from one ISPF "window" was made much easier. The edit killed it for me though. I did think of trapping the TCP/IP output fro

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
Tommy, I suggest that you read up on the use of "guaranteed space", an attribute of STORAGE CLASS. When you specify a STORCLAS that has that attribute, coding VOL=SER=XX *is honored* and the dataset will be allocated on the SMS-managed volume you direct it to. This way, you can use a data fi

Re: Allociated Dataset Question

2006-08-17 Thread Shane Ginnane
I must be old fashioned - I just use "D GRS,RES=..." on the log. That way I get a persistent list I can go back and reference if I find I have to go find several people whose heads I need to bang together. Always seemed to be faster too than any of the other (homegrown) options - never really che

Re: Enterprise Extender Requirements on z/OS

2006-08-17 Thread Chris Mason
Rogers I assume Mark has used the nature of the question in order to assume that 1. your current VTAM implementation was traditional subarea, that is, it uses CDRM/SSCP in order to communicate between domains rather than Control Points, CPs 2. you needed to be told that Enterprise Extender requi

Re: SRD FUNCTION WITHIN IBMLINK2K/IBMLINK

2006-08-17 Thread Shane Ginnane
Glenn wrote on 18/08/2006 07:58:40 AM: > Hi everyone, > > Did I miss an announcement, notice, E-mail, etc. recently? > > I just tried to order a PTF on SRD via IBMLINK2K & IBMLINK. > When I received the screen/GUI to enter the "Shipping Medium" > I don't see the INET ( Internet Delivery ) option.

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Tommy Tsui
thanks BOB and TOM briefly explanation..thanks again... Under non-sms managed, we have to allocate some double journal VSAM file into different volumes such as IBMA01, IBMB01, (for performance purpose) In SMS managed, the two journal may allocate to same volume after reorg (if use a same pool)e

轉寄: Re: 轉寄: Re: How can the ACS routine to bpass checking the storage volume datasetst?

2006-08-17 Thread Tommy Tsui
Hi since all our STORAGE volumes /PUBLIC volumes are share to all application system under non-sms managed, If we change to SMS-managed how can we share the same pool for storage volumes otherwise we have to allocate a large number of volumes for each application and storage group... for example al

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 08/17/2006 11:06:29 AM: > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:28:34 -0400, Jim Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>... > > I looked at the PMR, and it does not mention a dump of the > >address space in question after the CANCEL was done. A dump would be > >requi

Re: Write to the internal reader in C and get jobid back.

2006-08-17 Thread Ray Mullins
Why doesn't it assemble? There's no reason why it shouldn't work in z/OS 1.6 and 1.7. Do you know about opening the INTRDR as a VSAM ESDS and then issuing an ENDREQ to get the job idenfier? Later, Ray -- M. Ray Mullins Roseville, CA, USA http://www.catherdersoftware.com/ http://www.mrmulli

Re: Enterprise Extender Requirements on z/OS

2006-08-17 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
Your big change/challenge will be to implement APPN first. If you have access to the SHARE web site, there have been a lot of presentations on implementing EE. Mark T. Regan, K8MTR U.S. Navy Retired, CTO1, 1969-1991 - Original Message From: "Laine, Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

SRD FUNCTION WITHIN IBMLINK2K/IBMLINK

2006-08-17 Thread Glenn Miller
Hi everyone, Did I miss an announcement, notice, E-mail, etc. recently? I just tried to order a PTF on SRD via IBMLINK2K & IBMLINK. When I received the screen/GUI to enter the "Shipping Medium" I don't see the INET ( Internet Delivery ) option. I see 3480, 3490, 3590 and CD05. Is this because o

Re: DAF & IEFUJI

2006-08-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/16/2006 at 08:14 AM, Michael Cleary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >For those of you that are members of SHARE, I submitted a SHARE >requirement regarding this. The text assumes that the field is intended to hold a userid; that assumption is incorrect. >To effectivel

Re: Baby MVS???

2006-08-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/16/2006 at 03:58 AM, "John R. Grout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >This must be the grandson of C0E, I've never seen the term before. >so deemed because it uses a split console of a card reader at 00C >and a 1403 printer at 00E. I've always had a 1052-7 or better

Re: Baby MVS???

2006-08-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/15/2006 at 11:01 AM, "Daniel A. McLaughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Sounds like the old one-pack recovery system. Except that it is typically at a higher service level. Your recovery system may be too old to install the latest release. -- Shmuel (Seymou

Re: Allociated Dataset Question

2006-08-17 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thank you all for your prompt response, much appreciated. "Richards.Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dave, Thanks! That answers my previous question. The "\" was superfluous. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Da

Re: Baby MVS???

2006-08-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/15/2006 at 09:47 AM, Ed Finnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Subject: Baby MVS??? No, just a starter system, such has been a fixture since the OS/360 days. >206203 IBM Customized Offerings Driver V2.2, a subset of an IBM >z/OS JES2 system, enables installation of

Re: PDA on DFHSM

2006-08-17 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Sorry finger check I'll check with Ed Baker at Share tomorrow but my understanding is if you set PDA=NONE at start-up then you cannot use PDA without re-starting HSM. Better to use PDA=OFF, then switch to ON inflight. >Just double checking. If PDA=none is set in the hsm parmlib, you can use a

Enterprise Extender Requirements on z/OS

2006-08-17 Thread Laine, Rogers
I'm researching what resources are required to implement Enterprise Extender on a z/OS 1.4 system? Would I need to install any additional software/hardware on our 2086-A04? What I think thus far is a GigaBit OSA card is needed with some additional VTAM coding, right? TIA, Rogers ___

Re: PDA on DFHSM

2006-08-17 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
I'll check with Ed Baker at Share tomorrow but my understanding is if you set PDA=NONE at -Original Message- From: Friske, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDA on DFHSM Yes. -Original Message- From:

Re: Anyone using graphical ISPF?

2006-08-17 Thread Dave Salt
From: Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But this list taught me, a couple years ago, even better to turn off "Always show split line" in Option 0, then use the SWAP key for a blink comparison. I always have "show split line" disabled, but on rare occassions I split my screen in the middle so

Re: PDA on DFHSM

2006-08-17 Thread Friske, Michael
Yes. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe jeffries Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: PDA on DFHSM Hi folks, Just double checking. If PDA=none is set in the hsm parmlib, you can use a S

Re: Sun sells mainframe re-hosting business to Clerity

2006-08-17 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
On Thursday 17 August 2006 16:06, Darren Evans-Young wrote: > Sun sells mainframe re-hosting business to Clerity > http://cwflyris.computerworld.com/t/781733/650249/30377/2/ >From the article: >> Sun had written two major mainframe programs to run on its Solaris >> version of Unix, both of which

Re: The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???

2006-08-17 Thread Thomas Berg
I'm very happy to hear that. It would be a waste of a very good software (and hardware) otherwise. Thomas Berg == Alan Altmark == wrote2006-08-17 20:14: On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:00:28 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: Is IBM really giving up on VM? They tryed that once before, but t

Display in SDSF OTSU

2006-08-17 Thread Jorge Arueira Campos
Hi In display of SDSF in Z/os 1.4 appear in jobname manys address space as STARTING without name, the stepname is H4A00257 in this case. Below a SDSF display: D A,OTSU DSF DA PSP1 PSP1 PAG0 SIO 21192 CPU 79/ 79 LINE 1-5 (5) NP JOBNAME STEPNAME PROCSTEP JOBIDSIO CPU% DP

Re: Anyone using graphical ISPF?

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Dave Salt said: > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:49:49 + > > the fact that each 'split screen' appeared as a new, individual window on my > desktop. This allowed me (for example) to put two windows side by side for > comparison ... > But this list taught me, a couple yea

Sun sells mainframe re-hosting business to Clerity

2006-08-17 Thread Darren Evans-Young
Sun sells mainframe re-hosting business to Clerity http://cwflyris.computerworld.com/t/781733/650249/30377/2/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GE

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:11:06 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I would agree with the originator of this question that any required use of FORCE is a bug. > >I disagree. Sometimes you have to FORCE. ... I didn't mean to imply that FORCE should not be used. I even can see where it

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
> Of course, this assumes that a sufficiently small subset of the total SMS environment can be defined to make it worthwhile. Understood and agreed. I'm out of practice and spoiled at the moment. GDPS/XRC :-) Bob Richards LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is i

APPC/MVS System Base LU

2006-08-17 Thread Rich Tabor
Are there any control blocks or services an application written in assembler can use to determine the system's base LU for APPC/MVS? I' have tried the REXX MVSVAR(SYSAPPCLU) function but only get spaces returned. Some sample execs on CBT have the use of MVSVAR(SYSAPPCLU) coded but also commented

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Tom Marchant
The system volumes - not just the IPL volumes, but everything needed to get MVS up and ready to restore applications - should not be managed by SMS. In my reference below to "The first volumes to restore in a D/R situation," I was thinking of the first SMS volumes that are restored to get the

Write to the internal reader in C and get jobid back.

2006-08-17 Thread Steve Pordash
Does anybody know a way to get the jobid when a c program writes some JCL to the internal reader and then get the jobid back? I had an assembly program that did it, but it no longer compiles under ZOS 1.6. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???

2006-08-17 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld
Alan, Thank you for giving us an I assume official word on VM's future viability. I was pretty sure that IBM was not giving up on VM, but its good hear it ffrom the developers. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: "Al

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
Tom, If I understand you correctly, I am in agreement with you about avoiding coding routines for explicit volume allocations. It *was* generally for transitional purposes only that I used them. After that, the default was to SMS-manage everything. Exceptions were otherwise coded and excluded. My

Re: Scripts for HFS Files

2006-08-17 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Petersen, Jim > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:22 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Scripts for HFS Files > > I want to create an OMVS Script which will allow me to populate the

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:07:52 -0400, Richards.Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Tom, > > > >The most valuable suggestion in addition to the one on SMS manuals >is the one found at the bottom of every note on this list: > > > >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > Agree

Re: The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???

2006-08-17 Thread Raymond Noal
but z/VM *is* the most programmable, flexible, powerful, and robust hypervisor in existence. A-M-E-N to that!!! HITACHI  DATA SYSTEMS Raymond E. Noal Senior Technical Engineer Office: (408) 970 - 7978 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???

2006-08-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:00:28 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: >Is IBM really giving up on VM? They tryed that once before, but then >started promoting z/Linux under z/VM. Or is this just speculation. I >would think that if they are stilling promoting the z boxes to run Linux, >unless they come up

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
Tom, The most valuable suggestion in addition to the one on SMS manuals is the one found at the bottom of every note on this list: Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html We both know that topics about ACS routine coding have been discussed many times over. To

Re: Scripts for HFS Files

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Dineen
Jim, Here is sample of a 'batch TSO' job I use to customize a ROOT mounted at '/newroot' with directory mountpoints and symbolic links: //TSOB EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //SYSEXEC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOU

Scripts for HFS Files

2006-08-17 Thread Petersen, Jim
I want to create an OMVS Script which will allow me to populate the "OMVS.ROOT" file shipped from the factory with my symbolic links and directories for mount points. Can anyone help me with a template? ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Ho

Re: 轉寄: Re: How can the ACS r outine to bypass checking the storage volu me datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:13:57 -0400, Richards.Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Timeout! > >Before this gets into a "my way is the best way" thread, let's agree that >Matthew would not actually convert to SMS that way. I thought he was >merely mentioning a logical one for one concept. :-) I think T

SMS DASD Volume Count in z/OS 1.4

2006-08-17 Thread Miller, Pat
My storage admin guy is having a problem that he thinks started when we went to z/OS 1.4. We use FDR Upstream to back up certain workstations and servers to mainframe DASD. We use the same SMS data class for all of them. It allows for up to 59 volumes to be used for each backup data set. App

Re: JES2 Not Dormant

2006-08-17 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Alford > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:12 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: JES2 Not Dormant > > > We've had some success with the $DA,X command listing the tasks still

Re: How can the ACS routine to bypass checking the storage volume datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
Not sure where that came from. I looked at what I sent in my sent items folder and it is not there. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU S

Re: JES2 Not Dormant

2006-08-17 Thread Ben Alford
We've had some success with the $DA,X command listing the tasks still running. Glad to hear that this is fixed in the next release! *After* you've shot JES2 in frustration and re-ipled, JES2 will identify the culprit via msg $HASP406I xxx WAS EXECUTING. However, it sometimes gives us a false pos

Re: $Bm[4s!' (B Re: How can the ACS r outine to bypass checking the storage volu me datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
What is the garbage before the RE:? I have a SPAM filter that gets rid of $B in the subject line. Fortunately, I checked my BULK folder, rather than just clobbering it. When in doubt. PANIC!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sig

Re: 轉寄: Re: How can the ACS r outine to bypass checking the storage volu me datasets?

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
Timeout! Before this gets into a "my way is the best way" thread, let's agree that Matthew would not actually convert to SMS that way. I thought he was merely mentioning a logical one for one concept. :-) What *is* important in what Matthew wrote is that Tommy needs to do some more reading.

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Use of FORCE On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:28:34 -0400, Jim Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the futur

Re: Anyone using graphical ISPF?

2006-08-17 Thread Dave Salt
From: "Kuredjian, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does anyone know where I can download the installer for windows? The sysadmins for our MF have removed the dataset containing the member required. Michael, I'll send the file to you off-list. Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - The easiest, most powerful

Re: Anyone using graphical ISPF?

2006-08-17 Thread Dave Salt
Michael, I tried using the ISPF GUI for a while. The only thing I liked about it was the fact that each 'split screen' appeared as a new, individual window on my desktop. This allowed me (for example) to put two windows side by side for comparison or other purposes. However, this alone was not

Re: 轉寄: Re: How can the ACS routine to bpass checking the storage volume datasetst?

2006-08-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:00:42 -0500, Matthew Stitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip! > All your STORAGE volumes today would be placed in a storage group named >E.G. STORWRK. All your PUBLIC volumes would be placed in a storage group >named E.G. STORPUB. The ACS routines would send the appropria

Re: Allociated Dataset Question

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
Dave, Thanks! That answers my previous question. The "\" was superfluous. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Salt Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Allociated Data

Re: Allociated Dataset Question

2006-08-17 Thread Dave Salt
From: Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I seem to remember some way to determine if a dataset has been allocated to some job from the ISPF 3.4 menu. Can anyone refresh me on this and if not 3.4 then where? Howard, Enter ISRDDN E next to a data set in a DSLIST and it will give you the en

Re: Allociated Dataset Question

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
Herman, Does that fill in the MINOR name on your system when you invoke it? It did not on my system. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stocker, Herman Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.U

Re: Allociated Dataset Question

2006-08-17 Thread Imbriale, Don
Rather than 3.4, issue command DDLIST E on any ISPF panel. Then enter the name of the data set in the field Minor Name Prefix and press enter. Don Imbriale On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:12:50 -0700, Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I seem to remember some way to determine if a dataset has b

Re: Allociated Dataset Question

2006-08-17 Thread Stocker, Herman
In 3.4 on the DSN line ISRDDN E \ Regards, Herman Stocker avis budget group Phone: 1973-496-4847 Fax:1973-496-4979 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Thursday, August

Re: Allociated Dataset Question

2006-08-17 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Howard, I know there should be a better way of doing this, but for PS or PO datasets, I just attempt a rename of the dataset from 3.4. If it asks for a new name, it isn't allocated and I just PF3 back out. If it comes back saying "dataset in use" I just hit PF1 twice and it shows who has it.

PDA on DFHSM

2006-08-17 Thread Joe jeffries
Hi folks, Just double checking. If PDA=none is set in the hsm parmlib, you can use a SETSYS PDA(ON) and SETSYS PDA(OFF) to turn it on/off inflight? Many thx, Joe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruction

Re: Allociated Dataset Question

2006-08-17 Thread Richards.Bob
If the action you are trying to do tells you that someone else has control of it, press PF1 (twice, I think). Otherwise, download the free version of MXI or TASID or SHOWMVS. Check the CBT site for SHOWMVS: www.cbttape.org or for MXI 4.3: http://www.rocketsoftware.com/portfolio/mxi/download.php

Re: Anyone using graphical ISPF?

2006-08-17 Thread Kuredjian, Michael
Does anyone know where I can download the installer for windows? The sysadmins for our MF have removed the dataset containing the member required. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thu 8/17/2006 10:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.ED

Allociated Dataset Question

2006-08-17 Thread Howard Rifkind
I seem to remember some way to determine if a dataset has been allocated to some job from the ISPF 3.4 menu. Can anyone refresh me on this and if not 3.4 then where? Thanks - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com --

Re: Need source file editor recommendations

2006-08-17 Thread Dave Salt
=Dave Salt wrote > What Spiffy and SimpList do is provide the mainframe > equivalent of Internet > Explorer. =John McKown wrote = What?!? They crash the operating system? Ouch! (Actually, that was pretty funny!) Hmmm. Now that you've pointed it

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:28:34 -0400, Jim Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>... > I looked at the PMR, and it does not mention a dump of the >address space in question after the CANCEL was done. A dump would be >required to figure out what is going on before trying to decide if there >is a probl

Re: 轉寄: Re: How can the ACS routine to bpass checking the storage volume datasetst?

2006-08-17 Thread Matthew Stitt
You don't distinguish the volumes. To the MVS system, all SMS managed volumes are mounted PRIVATE. Use SMS ACS routines to separate the datasets into separate storage groups. All your STORAGE volumes today would be placed in a storage group named E.G. STORWRK. All your PUBLIC volumes would be p

Re: Dynamyically JES USER EXIT (7) replacement

2006-08-17 Thread Matthew Stitt
Go get file 196 from the CBT tape. www.cbttape.org is the URL. It has a JES2 exit 5 which will accomplish what you are looking for. On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:25:32 -0500, Pat Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The only way I have ever pulled this off is if the module is loaded in >Private I c

Re: DAF & IEFUJI

2006-08-17 Thread Clark F Morris
On 16 Aug 2006 06:15:07 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Greetings, > >For those of you that are members of SHARE, I submitted a SHARE >requirement regarding this. One of the problems is that the user-id is still only 8 characters. This is more and more of a limitation since most othe

Re: Anyone using graphical ISPF?

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:58:21 -0400, Kuredjian, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If so, how do you like it? What advantages does it offer over standard ISPF? > No. o It's cumbersome and unesthetic, particularly in the way it formats an EDIT panel with each line appearing as an individual

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Gabriel Tully
This should have gone to the list too: In addition, there are several things I check before I issue any kind of FORCE: - Check SRVCLASS for low priorty - Check RMF for waits - Check WTOR - Check GRS contention - Check for SMC (step must complete) status in D A,taskname - Check to see if task ha

Secuirity when application on PC, database and files on mainframe was Re: The Fate of VM - was: Re: Baby MVS???

2006-08-17 Thread Clark F Morris
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 09:55:02 -0600, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >On 16 Aug 2006 08:28:34 -0700, "Mickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Moving to a PC based platform is the best way I know of to engage in >>empire building. I oft times suspect that some managers do it for just >>that reaso

Re: APF Question

2006-08-17 Thread Imbriale, Don
Something like F LLA,UPDATE=DSN=some.data.set.name would be very useful and could help eliminate manual effort of creating a PARMLIB member and the attendant clutter of members in PARMLIB. Don Imbriale On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 04:33:07 -0700, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Peter Relson wro

Re: 轉寄: Re: How can the ACS routine to bpass checking the storage volume datasetst?

2006-08-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:55:03 +0800, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >HI, >Currently all our volumes are NON-SMS managed therefore all temporary files >UNIT=SYSDA, VOL=SER=NIL will allocate to WORKs volumes/STORAGE volumes, all >&TEMP files will allocate to PUBLIC volumes and the others wi

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
The problems we have seen are mostly when someone tries to FORCE a job that is using DB2. The least impact is that the threads don't go away and the ASID remains unusable until DB2 goes down. The most impact we have seen is that DB2 is unusable. Maybe if you are not using DB2 then FORCE will not ca

Re: APF Question

2006-08-17 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
And, unless I am mistaken, REFRESH invalidates the entire VLF cache and you will be running without VLF's performance enhancements for all LLA/VLF managed libraries until LLA decides to start staging to VLF again. I remember from the past this fully killed system performance for about 10 minutes.

Fw: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I think this should have gone to the list? After all, I mis-typed. Had ARM in the wrong order. --Original Message-- To: Gabriel Tully Sent: Aug 17, 2006 10:07 Subject: Re: Use of FORCE >Shouldn't it be: >CANCEL >FORCE ,ARM > * if ARM does not work then >FORCE >START My bad! You're

Anyone using graphical ISPF?

2006-08-17 Thread Kuredjian, Michael
If so, how do you like it? What advantages does it offer over standard ISPF? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archive

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>This is likely not possible, but have you considered writing an assembler >routine which does an ATTACHX on the actual program. Unfortunately, it's not possible. The main reason is, we are out-sourced and our provider doesn't have the smarts. Nor, do they like modifying vendor code. When in do

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:54 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Use of FORCE > > > >I must be doing something wrong then since we have seen > several probl

轉寄: Re: How can the ACS routine to bpass checking the storage volume datasetst?

2006-08-17 Thread Tommy Tsui
HI, Currently all our volumes are NON-SMS managed therefore all temporary files UNIT=SYSDA, VOL=SER=NIL will allocate to WORKs volumes/STORAGE volumes, all &TEMP files will allocate to PUBLIC volumes and the others will allocate to private volumes. if we plan to use SMS managed all volumes how can

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>So you consider an unscheduled IPL to be part of "normal operation?" Who said we had any? Maybe we've been lucky? When in doubt. PANIC!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAI

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I must be doing something wrong then since we have seen several problems in >the past couple of years (certainly less than 20 years) with using FORCE. We are using it at least twice a month, unfortunately. One business-critical task is taking a S0C4 occasionally, and won't cancel since it's swa

FW: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
"Consider using the FORCE command as a last resort when the CANCEL command still fails to perform its function after you have issued it several times." "WARNING: Never use the FORCE command without understanding that: - After issuing FORCE, you might have to re-IPL." "ARM The system is to termin

Shark F20 x z9 BC

2006-08-17 Thread Bodra - Pessoal
Hi Gurus We are installing a z9 BC system and we are in doubt how to define IBM 2105 F20 to be accessed using Ficon channels. We have 04 options in shark configuration: P-T-P_FCP P-T-P_FICON FCAL Undefined Operating system can't "see" shark dasds using Ficon, just using escon ch

Re: How can the ACS routine to bpass checking the storage volume datasetst?

2006-08-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:35:54 +0800, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi all, > >I am using SMS to manage a group of volume but how to handle the WORK PACK, >I means the storage volume, how can the ACS routine to bypass checking the >storage volume datasetst? > >UNIT=SYSDA,DSN=TESTFILE,DISP=

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:11:06 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I would agree with the originator of this question that any required use of FORCE is a bug. > >I disagree. Sometimes you have to FORCE. For example, you have an address >space swapped out. Are you sure about that? I've

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
I must be doing something wrong then since we have seen several problems in the past couple of years (certainly less than 20 years) with using FORCE. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On B

Re: Need source file editor recommendations

2006-08-17 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Salt > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:37 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Need source file editor recommendations > > > What Spiffy and SimpList do is provide the m

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I'm not saying that we never issue a FORCE, but we do it as a last resort and >keep a close eye on the system after we issue it. Again, this is NOT normal it >is a bug to have to issue a force. Again, I disagree. Most of the issues with FORCE went away 20 years ago. And, there are many reasons

Re: REXX & Console Commands

2006-08-17 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi Rob, The command "D R,R,CN=(ALL)" did the trick. I tried it first in ISPF Panel 6 to ensure it gave the correct results before putting it into the REXX routine. I am now correctly capturing the outstanding reply information for IMS which was my goal. Many thanks - Terry Terry Sambrooks Di

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Use of FORCE >I would agree with the originator of this question that any required use of FORCE is a

Re: Dynamyically JES USER EXIT (7) replacement

2006-08-17 Thread Pat Schlehuber
The only way I have ever pulled this off is if the module is loaded in Private I could Hot-start JES2 by doing a $PJES2,ABEND and then restart JES2. Not very elegant, but it does work. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / arc

Re: How can the ACS routine to bpass checking the storage volume datasetst?

2006-08-17 Thread John Kington
Tommy, >I am using SMS to manage a group of volume but how to handle the WORK PACK, >I means the storage volume, how can the ACS routine to bypass checking the >storage volume datasetst? > >UNIT=SYSDA,DSN=TESTFILE,DISP=(,PASS) Do you want the temporary dataset to *not* be SMS managed? IF &DSTYPE

Re: APF Question

2006-08-17 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Human resources well spent, I might add. In a large shop there may be more than one person updating the LINKLIST. By issuing 'F LLA,REFRESH' you may cause new code to be picked up before it should be (ie. may require updates to LPA to be concurrent). Always take the least invasive option. It is wor

Re: Use of FORCE

2006-08-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I would agree with the originator of this question that any required use of >FORCE is a bug. I disagree. Sometimes you have to FORCE. For example, you have an address space swapped out. CANCEL won't take effect until it swaps back in. So, you cannot restart it until it's gone. > The possible c

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