Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Imbriale, Donald > > Not true regarding what you call major key. The keys do not > need to be in left to right order, but the concept of primary > (major) and secondary > (minor) keys still applied. > > SORT 1 5 A

Re: What is a CPU second?

Chris Craddock wrote: There is zero difference in the underlying time unit or the mechanism of accumulating it. CPU time is simply the elapsed time that was spent "dispatched" on a cpu - no matter how many tasks and/or SRBs there were and no matter how many cpus there were or how fast they were

Re: What is a CPU second?

On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 12:11 +, john gilmore wrote: > A further word about terrminology is in order here. At least to those who > care for language, CPU, Central Processing Unit, implies that there can be > only one of them. John and I (and probably the rest of the known universe) have had

Re: Sysplex timer

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/28/2007 at 12:18 PM, "(IBM Mainframe Discussion List)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >The question was "Could you xx." This is correct as far as the >English that I learned 50+ years ago in my childhood English grammar >classes, but not so far as current, slan

Re: What is a CPU second

I'm not prepared to defend the two-r variant of 'terminology' in any circumstances. It was ill-considered, a typo in fact. Moreover, I have no objection to 'engine'; but my strictures about CPU and Central Processing Unit stand. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA __

Re: ISPF not productive

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/28/2007 at 10:20 AM, "Eric N. Bielefeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I still think that what you learned first and grew up on determines >what editor you like best. I grew up on punched cards. I wrote my own card-oriented editors. I used ATS before XEDIT. I used F

Re: ISPF not productive

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/28/2007 at 10:54 AM, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Wasn't there something in old "green screen" 3270 Data Entry mode >which allowed "delete word"? My recollection is that text assist first showed up on amber displays. The same feature allowed the tab k

Re: What's a CPU second?

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What's a CPU second? Gee, thanks everybody for telling me about MP overhead and SRB time and time-slicing

Re: EZA1551I - Unknown host: aa.bb.com. ( Answered)

Pat, Chris, Richard and ALL who responded, Thank You. I needed the firewall address of my site added as the first line of my JCL. Thanks Again, ~~Carol "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 03/29/2007 04:46 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John S. Giltner, Jr. Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about SuperWylbur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure about the OSI to ACS, but EDS ended

Re: What's a CPU second?

On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 09:04 -0400, Thompson, Steve wrote: > And has anyone seen Schrodinger's cat lately? Which one ??? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

T.J. Maxx data theft worse than first reported

Does anyone know what they run on? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17853440/wid/11915829/ >Information from at least 45.7 million credit and debit cards was stolen by hackers who accessed TJX?s customer information in a security >breach that the discount retailer disclosed more than two months ago

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

In a message dated 3/30/2007 8:10:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >OBS, not OSI. Two totally different companies. OBS - Online Business Services was a service bureau and software development entity in the SF Bay area. I definitely worked for Optimum Systems, Inc. (O

Re: T.J. Maxx data theft worse than first reported

Almost makes you want to go back to completely using cash again. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET

Re: What is a CPU second?

> CPU and Central Processing Unit, are now solecisms that should be avoided. Tell IBM! IEF374I STEP/STEP0010/STOP 2007086.1135 CPU0MIN 00.02SEC Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john gilmore Sent: Friday, March 30

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 8:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about SuperWylbur I definitely worked for Optimum Systems, Inc. (OSI) in Roc

Re: What's a CPU second?

Thanks Chris. You have in fact hit upon the fundamental problem here: not mine, but my associate's. As I explained it to my (non-technical) wife, what he is doing is akin to saying "if it takes me an hour to drive into town now, how long will it take if I get a car with more seats and twice the hor

Re: What's a CPU second?

"Thompson, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:08 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: What's a CPU

Re: A little good news for MF

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:20:28 -0400, Thompson, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Rick Fochtman >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:18 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: A little good news f

Re: What's a CPU second?

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 8:44 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: What's a CPU second? > > I resembles the joke, how many systemprogrammers does it t

Re: What's a CPU second?

If I don't lay off the cake, that's going to be true even if I'm the only sysprog working on the light bulb. Jon I resembles the joke, how many systemprogrammers does it take to change a ligth bulb? I don't know the exact answer, but if the lightbulb was in a small room, they wouldn't fit. -

Can TN3270 SSL use RACF keyring?

Trying to set up SSL support for TN3270. The TN3270 clients I'm using either want a key file for the private key or a stash file for the key database. I'd like to use RACF instead of gskkyman, but I don't see any way to export the private key in the RACDCERT command, and the word "stash" does

Re: What's a CPU second?

On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 06:40 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > I understand the concept of MP overhead perfectly. Lucky fella. > Would anyone care to comment? Ask 5 people - get 6 answers. At least. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subsc

Re: What's a CPU second?

Yeah, C.P., there is a tendency for this group to object that the glass is 1% empty rather than agreeing that it is 99% full. How many system programmers does it take to change a light bulb? It depends on the MP overhead. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [m

Re: T.J. Maxx data theft worse than first reported

On 30 Mar 2007 06:20:29 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Pace) wrote: >Almost makes you want to go back to completely using cash again. Even cash is plastic now - with gift cards.There are lots of reasons for not wanting a record of how we spend our money, starting with buying presents for our

Re: T.J. Maxx data theft worse than first reported

Right. Cash is never stolen. When I have had erroneous charges on my credit cards, and it has averaged about one a year for the past 35+ years, I simply call the bank and they take the charge off of the card. Try doing that if your cash is stolen. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Ma

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

My first CRT based editor was Roscoe. I had lesser editors later. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http

Re: ISPF not productive

Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: I grew up on punched cards. I wrote my own card-oriented editors. I used ATS before XEDIT. I used FSE before XEDIT. I encountered SPF before XEDIT. I wanted SPF when I was using XEDIT, but that didn't blind me to the faults of SPF or to the useful features of XEDIT

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:18:04 +0200, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does any *serious* customer still use 3490 for production ? As the default, no. But we still have to create some files on 3490 to send off site. There is always talk of trying to get everything to use FTP, but that has been go

Re: T.J. Maxx data theft worse than first reported

Howard Brazee wrote: Privacy laws are designed to limit Big Brother, and the IS industry needs to be aware of requirements in both directions. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#10 Record Credit card heist...TJM recent side-track, somewhat into the privacy side of the issue http://www.

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:18:04 +0200, R.S. wrote: > > Does any *serious* customer still use 3490 for production ? Sure. All non-IBM tape libraries. They may be genned as 3590, but (as you know) different physical media. In PacBasin IBM won't ship ServerPac nor new product orders via Shopz. 3490(E)

Re: What's a CPU second?

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [ snip ] > > I resembles the joke, how many systemprogrammers does it take > to change a ligth bulb? I don't know the exact answer, but if > the lightbulb was in a small room, they wouldn't fit.

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

"R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Ken Porowski wrote: > > I just got this announcement that the 3490-F1A (and others) will be > > going off maintenance services on June 30, 2007. > > > > It seems to me that 3 months is rather short notice that you can't ge

Re: Can TN3270 SSL use RACF keyring?

RACDCERT EXPORT -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pinnacle Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 8:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Can TN3270 SSL use RACF keyring? Trying to set up SSL support for TN3270. The TN3270 clients I'm

Re: Can TN3270 SSL use RACF keyring?

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pinnacle > > Trying to set up SSL support for TN3270. The TN3270 clients > I'm using either want a key file for the private key or a > stash file for the key database. I'd like to use RACF > instead of gskkyman, b

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

Steve, You're right, Online Software International published like a 3-inch CICS/VS reference summary that contained all of the CICS reference data and the 3270 IDS data. ONE HELL of a Reference Summary! Also, at some point I think had an ACF/VTAM OSI reference summary. IIFC, they had to quit d

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

Does Texas A&M still run Wylbur? Yes, I very much know what you mean. I miss those years and opportunities. And there was yet another service bureau in the SF area that was a WYLBUR customer, but I just can't remember the name of the organization or who the contact person was. Regards, Steve

Re: Can TN3270 SSL use RACF keyring?

- Original Message - From: "Dennis Trojak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: RE: Can TN3270 SSL use RACF keyring? RACDCERT EXPORT Dennis, As I understand it, RACDCERT EXPORT exports the certificate to a certificate

Re: T.J. Maxx data theft worse than first reported

In a message dated 3/30/2007 8:52:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >There are lots of reasons for not wanting a record of how we spend our money I can think of several other reasons (all political) why cash is good. There are many pros and cons with each choice.

Re: OpenSource Wylbur/Orvyl? (was Re: Question about SuperWylbur)

Tom, when I read your post I had the exact same thought. It would give "us" a heck of a editor to run when playing around on Hercules. Regards, Gary But it raises a question that I have not (yet) been able to find an answer from Stanford's web site: What level of MVS is needed for Stanford's

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:18:04 +0200, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does any *serious* customer still use 3490 for production ? What's your definition of "serious"? We are a small shop that uses 3490s every day for production use. Fortunately they are a model C22, not one falling off mainte

Re: Can TN3270 SSL use RACF keyring?

Tom Conley of the distinguished IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 03/30/2007 09:34:24 AM: > - Original Message - > From: "Dennis Trojak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:13 AM > Subject: RE: Can TN3270 SSL use RACF keyring? > >

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

On 3/30/07, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:18:04 +0200, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does any *serious* customer still use 3490 for production ? As the default, no. But we still have to create some files on 3490 to send off site. There is always talk of try

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

In a message dated 3/29/2007 11:18:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mainframe disappears.) For the purpose of editing, I've never seen anything to beat Superwylbur's RANGE. Great tool. >> Yeah, I was a consultant right across the street from NIH in Rockville. R

Re: Can TN3270 SSL use RACF keyring?

The client? Where is the client? PCOM on a PC uses a stash file for the Certificate Authority keys or later versions will use the Windows cert. repository. (Choose Microsoft CrytpoAPI in Security Setup) RACF will have the SERVER key on a key ring associated with the TN3270 server. I've setup

Re: A little good news for MF

- Rick, I am not sure this qualifies as a "security breach" a bank here in Chicago "lost" some tapes(3480 I believe) that had name & Address's of depositors a few years ago. Ed - I'd call it a security physical

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

I disagree. I receive 10 to 20 tapes every week from our customers. 99% of all tapes I receive are 3480/3490. It is rare for a customer to send us a 3590. Sorry, I should have also mentioned I have several hundred customers, not just a couple that send me the same kind tape each time. --

DST Again-7 April Boomerang....

_http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2007/3/emw512822.htm_ (http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2007/3/emw512822.htm) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sig

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:52:59 -0600, Howard Brazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >My first CRT based editor was Roscoe. I had lesser editors later. > First: Condor (Phoenix Software). But it was on MVT/VSE. I think Ed told me there is a "MVS" version. Don't know any shop that ever used it as the

WEB IBMLINK down again

meanwhile, 3270 interface STILL working like a champ! Trick question: Now which one is it they should be getting rid of ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with t

Re: WEB IBMLINK down again

In a message dated 3/30/2007 10:28:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trick question: Now which one is it they should be getting rid of ? >> Seems like in a free market they would offer the customers $XX Weblink $YY TN3270 $ZZ Both. Too radical for the current cro

Re: DST Again-7 April Boomerang....

Um, correct me if I'm wrong on this, but if the Washington Wonders hadn't changed the DST start, wouldn't the normal DST change have been happening on Sunday, April 1, not on Saturday, April 7? Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beha

Re: What's a CPU second?

>My original question is completely answered, but I've got a corollary question now. I understand the concept of MP overhead perfectly. If one guy can do a >job in two hours, it's unlikely that two guys could accomplish the same thing in one hour. So I understand why in aggregate a 5-way box is not

Re: What's a CPU second?

In a message dated 3/30/2007 10:49:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >the answer is that the MP effect is in the "hardware" (using the term loosely) operation of the CP(s) in coordinating the actions that are largely invisibile to the operating system. The MP effect o

Broken URLs in Postings (was: Record Credit card heist...TJM)

In a recent note, Ed Finnell said: in: http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0703&L=ibm-main&P=240587 > Subject: Record Credit card heist...TJM > > _http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8O5TU180.htm_ > (http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8O5TU180.htm) > Hi, Ed, Why

Re: What's a CPU second?

Gerhard Adam wrote: My original question is completely answered, but I've got a corollary question now. I understand the concept of MP overhead perfectly. If one guy can do a >job in two hours, it's unlikely that two guys could accomplish the same thing in one hour. So I understand why in aggrega

Re: DST Again-7 April Boomerang....

In a message dated 3/30/2007 10:47:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hadn't changed the DST start, wouldn't the normal DST change have been happening on Sunday, April 1, not on Saturday, April 7? >> Some discussion over that. The old rule was 1st Sat. in April.

Re: DST Again-7 April Boomerang....

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell > > > In a message dated 3/30/2007 10:47:18 A.M. Central Daylight > Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > hadn't changed the DST start, wouldn't the normal DST change > have been happening on Sunday, Ap

Re: What's a CPU second?

Charles Mills wrote: Thanks Chris. You have in fact hit upon the fundamental problem here: not mine, but my associate's. As I explained it to my (non-technical) wife, what he is doing is akin to saying "if it takes me an hour to drive into town now, how long will it take if I get a car with more s

Re: DST Again-7 April Boomerang....

Wasn't it the first Sunday in April? I have AIX boxes here that have a year-by-year showing of DST dates, and for 2007, they show April 1. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:50 AM To: IB

Re: DST Again-7 April Boomerang....

>From the 'Daylight Savings Time' website: Under legislation enacted in 1986, Daylight Saving Time in the U.S. began at 2:00 a.m. on the first Sunday of April and ended at 2:00 a.m. on the last Sunday of October. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- Fr

Wylbur History

Gerhard Postpischl is correct -- I had nothing to do with the development of Wylbur. I was an enthusiastic user at SLAC, and wrote a "Wylbur Tutorial" that got widespread use. John Ehrman -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / arc

Re: DST Again-7 April Boomerang....

Rex, I thought it was April 1 also, but my team mate says it would have been April 7. Is there a definitive answer to this nearly OT controversy. Thanks, Fletch (317) 817-3545 Wasn't it the first Sunday in April? I have AIX boxes here that have a year-by-year showing of DST dates, and fo

Re: DST Again-7 April Boomerang....

I would agree that the date in the article is bogus. The boomerang should happen on Sunday, April 1, NOT Saturday, April 7. Cisco would agree, for what it is worth. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/products_field_notice09186a00807e02b1.shtml or http://tinyurl.com/3xx43u >

Re: DST Again-7 April Boomerang....

Dave Reinken wrote: > > I would agree that the date in the article is bogus. The boomerang > should happen on Sunday, April 1, NOT Saturday, April 7. > > Cisco would agree, for what it is worth. > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/products_field_notice09186a00807e02b1.shtml > o

Re: What's a CPU second?

Lindy - > So if I have a job that uses 10 CPU seconds on a 500 MIPS machine and > I upgrade to 1000 MIPS it may only take 4 CPU seconds, no? It depends. If your old machine is five 100-MIPS CPs and your new machine is ten 100-MIPS CPs, then no, it will still take *about* 10 CPU seconds (because

Re: What's a CPU second?

MSUs- See http://www.isham-research.co.uk/dd.html#msus MIPS- See http://www.isham-research.co.uk/dd.html#mips Are they about the same thing? Not exactly, but I'll leave it for you to decide. They both have been applied as indicators of performance, MIPS as a service provider and MSUs

Re: What's a CPU second?

On 30 Mar 2007 10:01:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lindy Mayfield) wrote: >Thanks Chris. You have in fact hit upon the fundamental problem here: not >mine, but my associate's. As I explained it to my (non-technical) wife, what >he is doing is akin to saying "if it takes me an hour to drive into tow

Re: WEB IBMLINK down again

3270 interface still working just fine, meanwhile web ibmlink still down, master ticket # is: 31399941 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM

Re: What's a CPU second?

===snip=== Isn't the CPU time the amount of time that the CPU(s) spent doing the work? (All TCB's and all CPU's together) So if I have a job that uses 10 CPU seconds on a 500 MIPS machine and I upgrade to 1000 MIPS it may only take 4 CPU seconds, no? That's what I _think_ I've seen when a machine

Re: WEB IBMLINK down again

OK, I've given up on IBM's web abilities. I do not remember how to access IBMLINK via green screen. Can I do it from my work station and if so how? tx Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 Robert Justice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 03/30/2007 01:44 P

Re: What's a CPU second?

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Deaver > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:47 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: What's a CPU second? > I suppose the multi-thread thing would be akin to being able > to

Re: Subversion on RHEL

I still don't know why it did not show up on my list on RHN, but "up2date -i subversion" (as suggested by Mark Post) seems to have installed it. Thanks, Jon It's on topic here, even if you are more likely to get an answer there. Please consider posting the answer here if you get it. --

Re: IBMLink web is down SEV1 ticket opened with IBMLink help desk

Big Iron wrote: The 3270 interface is not available to Canadian customers AFAIK. Unless you live in a country like China, where all Internet access by its citizenry passes through government-run "portals", it would be rather difficult to prevent your PC-based TN3270 emulator client from c

Re: What's a CPU second?

If the thingie cannot be disassembled, then it is like a computing chore that is inherently single-thread and cannot be multi-tasked. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:03 AM To

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

Mark Pace wrote: I disagree. I receive 10 to 20 tapes every week from our customers. 99% of all tapes I receive are 3480/3490. It is rare for a customer to send us a 3590. Sorry, I should have also mentioned I have several hundred customers, not just a couple that send me the same kind

Re: What's a CPU second?

===snip=== (ignoring the return trip time in the one-car case, which I will assume is instantaneous to make this work right) ===snip=== No return trip - the path is circular! Point A and point B are the same - but we learn things on the trip - the people come back smarter. Jeffrey Deaver, Engine

Re: OpenSource Wylbur/Orvyl? (was Re: Question about SuperWylbur)

Tom Schmidt wrote: Charles' post with the Stanford URLs was a fun excursion down memory lane for me, which got me wondering what other SCIP documentation was available. Imagine my surprise to find that they have WYLBUR/ORVYL available for public download under a Mozilla Public License (MPL 1.1

Re: What's a CPU second?

and if the thingie can be disassembled, but it has to be wrapped in bubble wrap and cardboard Never mind -- Mike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the messag

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

On 3/30/07, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have you told them about DVD recorders ? DVD's wouldn't do a thing for me. Yeah, I know, they are customers, they decide... I know a datacenter in Poland, they received reels (not carts) until 2002, afaik. The reels were replaced with ftp. I di

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

Gregory, Gary G wrote: Does Texas A&M still run Wylbur? Yes, but it's use is shrinking. At one time we had over 700 concurrent users on a heavily modified version of WYLBUR. We were able to do this on a 2M AMDAHL 470/V6 running SVS. Most of these were students, but now they do all their work

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote: "R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Ken Porowski wrote: I just got this announcement that the 3490-F1A (and others) will be going off maintenance services on June 30, 2007. It seems to me that 3 months is rather short notice tha

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

Shane wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:18:04 +0200, R.S. wrote: Does any *serious* customer still use 3490 for production ? Sure. All non-IBM tape libraries. They may be genned as 3590, but (as you know) different physical media. In PacBasin IBM won't ship ServerPac nor new product orders via Sh

Re: DST Again-7 April Boomerang....

In a message dated 3/30/2007 11:58:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, it's "always" been 1st Sunday in April. Maybe you're thinking "Saturday night, at 2 AM", which is really Sunday >> No, they just did a piece on Headline News. 1st Sunday in April, last Saturd

Re: DST Again-7 April Boomerang....

In a message dated 3/30/2007 12:01:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wasn't it the first Sunday in April? I have AIX boxes here that have a year-by-year showing of DST dates, and for 2007, they show April 1. >> Correct. I just google'd DST for one of my nieces an

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

Since the salary pays my mortgage and our contracts exceed eight digits, I think I qualify as serious. 3490s are the most advanced method of data exchange we have with our customers. At least one cannot accept anything more modern than 3480s. Since they pay the freight, we apply the golden rule.

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

Since you work for Boeing we hope this is no correlation between your company and this statement "They made their choice and we will support them till the wings fall off". --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Schwarz, Barry A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 3490 off m

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

Wish I could share my customer list, but it's a Who's Who of America, and 99% of them still send me 3490 tapes. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send em

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

After all the discussion on this list about masking email addresses, I would like to thank you for broadcasting mine in the clear twice so I can get even more spam. Is your contention that we should continue to support them after the aircraft are no longer flyable or that we should stop supporting

Re: Wylbur History

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John R. Ehrman (408-463-3543 T/543-) Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Wylbur History Gerhard Postpischl is correct -- I had nothing to do with the developmen

Re: IBMLink web is down SEV1 ticket opened with IBMLink help desk

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:14:29 -0700, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Big Iron wrote: >> The 3270 interface is not available to Canadian customers AFAIK. >> > >Unless you live in a country like China, where all Internet access by >its citizenry passes through government-run "portals", it wo

Re: REXX Question

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/19/2007 at 01:10 PM, "George, William (DHS-ITSD)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >And it does NOT work for me. Why not run a TPUT trace and a VTAM buffer trace to see what is actually being sent? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position;

Re: What's a CPU second?

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/29/2007 at 04:07 PM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Would someone care to go out on a limb and give me a direct yes or no >on my basic question? Would you care to ask a question for which a direct yes or no is correct? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: What's a CPU second?

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/29/2007 at 02:00 PM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >then it is reporting .02 seconds on a single CPU of the box, is that >correct? Total over all CPU's. >This number would presumably be little changed if the same box went >from, say, a 4-way to an 8-way

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/29/2007 at 04:57 PM, "Thompson, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >BTW - Wylbur had paging BEFORE MVS did. ITYM Orville. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We d

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/29/2007 at 04:40 PM, "(IBM Mainframe Discussion List)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >To add a little more to Steve Thompson's reply: >WYLBUR, and its required telecommunications component ORVYL (might >not have spelled that one right, but how clever), were developed a

Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007

Sorry!!! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Schwarz, Barry A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 3490 off maintenance June 30 2007 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:09:28 -0700 After all the discussion on this list about masking email addresses, I would

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/29/2007 at 04:07 PM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >(Surely the 9672 in the sixties reference is a little off.) FSVO little. It's stark raving bonkers. Make that a 360/67. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/29/2007 at 04:06 PM, "Gregory, Gary G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >When did Wylbur become SuperWylbur? It didn't. There was a fork, one branch of which became OBS Wylbur, one branch of which became NIS Wylbur and one branch of which became SuperWylbur. >I'm guessi

Re: OpenSource Wylbur/Orvyl? (was Re: Question about SuperWylbur)

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/29/2007 at 10:50 PM, Tom Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >But it raises a question that I have not (yet) been able to find an >answer from Stanford's web site: What level of MVS is needed for >Stanford's WYLBUR/ORVYL? Would MVS 3.8 be sufficient? I'd be very

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